| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat 04:59 - Aug 31 with 4027 views | Hoopsie |
Was a big big gamble, that paid off immensely
If he was dropped, his confidence would be severely dampened, win or lose
But we won, and he played, slim odds but this I believe gives him a big boost, even though he conceded a bad goal, which keeper didn’t make mistakes, sometimes it went in, sometimes it didn’t
It is “big gamble” that paid off for Julien, I believe he must have spoken to Walsh, preparing him mentally and positively.
This could turn his season around, I hoped he kicks on. Here’s hoping 🤞🏼 |  |
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| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 06:56 - Aug 31 with 2733 views | Hastings_Hoops |
Meanwhile in Q block, some of the resident morons thought it would be helpful to chant “we want our Nardi back” when Walsh made a mistake.
Last home match it was a dad being kicked out having started homophonic chanting in front of his three young daughters (and of course it was the police in the wrong and not him).
Love this club, but there are some absolute choppers in our midst. |  | | |
| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 07:49 - Aug 31 with 2572 views | Esox_Lucius |
Still work to be done with his kicking but for all those clamouring for Nardi, I am guessing none of you watched the Plymouth cup match.
There is still a cadre of fans who can't watch a game without having a scapegoat and refuse to acknowledge when they have a good game. Madden played really well yesterday but it's denied by the usual suspects, Kolli played well yesterday and it's the same faces downplaying his efforts. It is a sad state of affairs when we can't support all our players when you know they are all pulling in the same direction. You could see at the end of the game just how. much their bond with the fans means to them. |  |
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| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 08:00 - Aug 31 with 2527 views | Sonic_Hoop |
| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 06:56 - Aug 31 by Hastings_Hoops |
Meanwhile in Q block, some of the resident morons thought it would be helpful to chant “we want our Nardi back” when Walsh made a mistake.
Last home match it was a dad being kicked out having started homophonic chanting in front of his three young daughters (and of course it was the police in the wrong and not him).
Love this club, but there are some absolute choppers in our midst. |
Seems to be the way of things in every public arena these days. |  | | |
| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 08:17 - Aug 31 with 2461 views | QPR_Jim |
His kicking was poor but you'd hope that's something they can work on fairly easily in training. He gets a good distance, just needs to work on accuracy. I did however like him flying off his line to punch the ball clear when we were getting bombarded towards the end.
The goal yesterday I have some sympathy for him. From the West Paddock I was in line with the shot and the post and thought Mbengue jumping unsighted Walsh and he probably thought (as did I, as did Mbengue) that it was going to get headed clear. So while it was soft I don't think the blame lies fully with Walsh.
I was impressed with how confident he was in the first half considering last week. It wasn't that long ago that we watched Lumley go from promising goalkeeper to a bit of a liability and it happened around the time he lost his confidence. So it was a shame in the second half when he's down the school end and the away fans are on his back that the home crowd wasn't on his side.
As always with these things, it's going to be a long road to redemption for Walsh as it's hard to change people's opinions once they have a negative view of a player. I hope he succeeds. |  | | |
| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 08:21 - Aug 31 with 2426 views | paulparker |
It wouldn’t of paid off if they had scored after he slipped on his Rrrs when he kicked it straight to the Charlton lad , the place would of gone into meltdown
Another worry was every easy cross he had he would catch it then lose it and pat the ball down
His kicking was mainly abysmal straight to the number 5 for them
To static for the goal also
I do think Walsh could be a decent keeper for us and what he needed was a loan spell last year rather than sitting on the bench , it’s a tough one as he needs to progress but you can’t keep making mistakes when your the keeper imo you have to bring back Nardi and get Walsh a loan for a year |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
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| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 08:25 - Aug 31 with 2402 views | LadbrokeR |
I thought his positioning for charltons wasn’t good |  | | |
| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 08:34 - Aug 31 with 2307 views | MedwayR |
Keeping him in goal after Coventry was a gamble but 100% the right call, but I’d now be looking to get him out on loan and bring someone in, we’ve set him up to fail by not getting him games on loan last year but it’s not too late to rectify that. |  |
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| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 08:39 - Aug 31 with 2284 views | rottcodd |
GK position now seems to be about more than just making saves (or coming for crosses), it's playing the offensive quarterback role. It's been mentioned how playing the ball first-time makes all the difference in terms of moving the ball past the opposition - it looks like Walsh's touch needs work as not only does he need to take a multiple to control the ball, but his touch is often imperfect and the ball is not moved quickly or accurately enough. Furthermore, like an errant artillery, when going long his range seems to be off and the ball would rarely hit his intended target.
There must be statistics that would compare Nardi and Walsh both offensively and defensively? | | | |
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| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 08:40 - Aug 31 with 2269 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 07:49 - Aug 31 by Esox_Lucius |
Still work to be done with his kicking but for all those clamouring for Nardi, I am guessing none of you watched the Plymouth cup match.
There is still a cadre of fans who can't watch a game without having a scapegoat and refuse to acknowledge when they have a good game. Madden played really well yesterday but it's denied by the usual suspects, Kolli played well yesterday and it's the same faces downplaying his efforts. It is a sad state of affairs when we can't support all our players when you know they are all pulling in the same direction. You could see at the end of the game just how. much their bond with the fans means to them. |
You literally downvoted me for reporting the Nardi chant. 
I'm not impressed by Walsh so far - his kicking isn't great and he's hardly covered himself in glory with some of his movement and positioning.
That may change but it's a huge decision to play him, seemingly because he's younger than Nardi. It's great playing young players but they need to be good enough too. | | | |
| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 08:52 - Aug 31 with 2192 views | francisbowles |
| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 08:17 - Aug 31 by QPR_Jim |
His kicking was poor but you'd hope that's something they can work on fairly easily in training. He gets a good distance, just needs to work on accuracy. I did however like him flying off his line to punch the ball clear when we were getting bombarded towards the end.
The goal yesterday I have some sympathy for him. From the West Paddock I was in line with the shot and the post and thought Mbengue jumping unsighted Walsh and he probably thought (as did I, as did Mbengue) that it was going to get headed clear. So while it was soft I don't think the blame lies fully with Walsh.
I was impressed with how confident he was in the first half considering last week. It wasn't that long ago that we watched Lumley go from promising goalkeeper to a bit of a liability and it happened around the time he lost his confidence. So it was a shame in the second half when he's down the school end and the away fans are on his back that the home crowd wasn't on his side.
As always with these things, it's going to be a long road to redemption for Walsh as it's hard to change people's opinions once they have a negative view of a player. I hope he succeeds. |
Excellent post Jim. Yesterday was always going to be difficult for him. Nerves played a part in his handling, as well as, his kicking errors; He sometimes gets a little panicked and rushes them (kicks).
I haven't seen any replays of the goal he conceded but my view was that it was a bit of a freak. A ball played into the box that bounced over heads and trickled inside the far post. A defensive mix up and shared blame.
I thought it would have been sensible to take him out of the firing line yesterday but hopefully coming through, relatively unscathed, on the winning side will give his somewhat fragile confidence a boost.
Two weeks now of hard work to improve those weaker areas of his game. | | | |
| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 08:52 - Aug 31 with 2190 views | OakR |
| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 08:21 - Aug 31 by paulparker |
It wouldn’t of paid off if they had scored after he slipped on his Rrrs when he kicked it straight to the Charlton lad , the place would of gone into meltdown
Another worry was every easy cross he had he would catch it then lose it and pat the ball down
His kicking was mainly abysmal straight to the number 5 for them
To static for the goal also
I do think Walsh could be a decent keeper for us and what he needed was a loan spell last year rather than sitting on the bench , it’s a tough one as he needs to progress but you can’t keep making mistakes when your the keeper imo you have to bring back Nardi and get Walsh a loan for a year |
Agree with everything here, apart from the goal, where I felt he was waiting for it to he headed away. I think it got hit into the ground and got some weird topspin on it which confused everyone. | |
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| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 08:56 - Aug 31 with 2166 views | bosh67 |
| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 08:25 - Aug 31 by LadbrokeR |
I thought his positioning for charltons wasn’t good |
To be fair the Charlton player could try and hit that ball another thousand times and it wouldn't do that. When he kicked it I was anticipating Mbengue being able to head it away (I'm not blaming Mbengue) but it sailed over his head and at that moment there is no time to reset as a keeper. It is a bit of a freak hit and a freak goal so I can't really blame Walsh. Given the freakish nature of the ball's trajectory I don't think other keepers would have been able to adjust either. |  |
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| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 09:08 - Aug 31 with 2067 views | derbyhoop |
| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 08:17 - Aug 31 by QPR_Jim |
His kicking was poor but you'd hope that's something they can work on fairly easily in training. He gets a good distance, just needs to work on accuracy. I did however like him flying off his line to punch the ball clear when we were getting bombarded towards the end.
The goal yesterday I have some sympathy for him. From the West Paddock I was in line with the shot and the post and thought Mbengue jumping unsighted Walsh and he probably thought (as did I, as did Mbengue) that it was going to get headed clear. So while it was soft I don't think the blame lies fully with Walsh.
I was impressed with how confident he was in the first half considering last week. It wasn't that long ago that we watched Lumley go from promising goalkeeper to a bit of a liability and it happened around the time he lost his confidence. So it was a shame in the second half when he's down the school end and the away fans are on his back that the home crowd wasn't on his side.
As always with these things, it's going to be a long road to redemption for Walsh as it's hard to change people's opinions once they have a negative view of a player. I hope he succeeds. |
There are some unrealistic suggestions on this thread.
Maybe, it would have been beneficial if Walsh had gone on loan last season. It's too late now.
We are not going to send him out on loan now.
Bringing Nardi back in as first choice would only be an option for those who haven't watched the Plymouth highlights. Nardi's reluctance to come for crosses cost us all 3 goals. And every team in the Championship had sussed that fault out by the end of last season.
Add in Nardi's contract is up at the end of the season. |  |
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| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 09:11 - Aug 31 with 2036 views | Hoopstar |
It will always be a long way back from him. People were getting on his back for not coming for balls he shouldn't have come for and did the right thing - so the anger and distrust towards him is slightly blinded already.
I have a new neighbour near me in the Lower School End who is just about the angriest man I have ever seen in my life. Huge neck tattoo, decked out in prime 'hoolie' gear and spent the whole second half incandescent with rage towards Walsh. He won't be winning him back over if we go on a run of 10 clean sheets from here.
Really agree with Norf's point, as often, that if we're going to bed him in it should have been gradually mid-season and phasing Nardi out after we had some points on the board and he was coming in to a more settled side. Too late for that alas. |  | | |
| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 09:23 - Aug 31 with 1983 views | Esox_Lucius |
The down vote was for the chant, not you... unless of course you were joining in with it.  | |
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| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 09:25 - Aug 31 with 1960 views | LadbrokeR |
A few observations he nearly spilt a couple of crosses in the first half. His distribution isn’t that good. I thought he’s positioning and movement for charltons goal wasn’t ideal. The goal we conceded v preston is possibly the cheapest and silliest I’ve seen for a while. He’s conceded 11 in 4.
Does he command the area and inspire confidence ? | | | |
| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 09:26 - Aug 31 with 1952 views | Esox_Lucius |
| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 08:21 - Aug 31 by paulparker |
It wouldn’t of paid off if they had scored after he slipped on his Rrrs when he kicked it straight to the Charlton lad , the place would of gone into meltdown
Another worry was every easy cross he had he would catch it then lose it and pat the ball down
His kicking was mainly abysmal straight to the number 5 for them
To static for the goal also
I do think Walsh could be a decent keeper for us and what he needed was a loan spell last year rather than sitting on the bench , it’s a tough one as he needs to progress but you can’t keep making mistakes when your the keeper imo you have to bring back Nardi and get Walsh a loan for a year |
As I said, same old people looking for a scapegoat rather than getting behind the players.
I am certain too that not all his kicks went to the Charlton #5. | |
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| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 09:27 - Aug 31 with 1936 views | Hoopstar |
It was a great throw out to Dembele for our first goal in fairness. | | | |
| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 09:29 - Aug 31 with 1917 views | LadbrokeR |
| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 09:25 - Aug 31 by LadbrokeR |
A few observations he nearly spilt a couple of crosses in the first half. His distribution isn’t that good. I thought he’s positioning and movement for charltons goal wasn’t ideal. The goal we conceded v preston is possibly the cheapest and silliest I’ve seen for a while. He’s conceded 11 in 4.
Does he command the area and inspire confidence ? |
I don’t agree with signing songs about having him replaced even if I think nardi is better | | | |
| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 09:32 - Aug 31 with 1894 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 08:56 - Aug 31 by bosh67 |
To be fair the Charlton player could try and hit that ball another thousand times and it wouldn't do that. When he kicked it I was anticipating Mbengue being able to head it away (I'm not blaming Mbengue) but it sailed over his head and at that moment there is no time to reset as a keeper. It is a bit of a freak hit and a freak goal so I can't really blame Walsh. Given the freakish nature of the ball's trajectory I don't think other keepers would have been able to adjust either. |
I agree, bosh. |  |
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| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 09:43 - Aug 31 with 1831 views | paulparker |
| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 09:26 - Aug 31 by Esox_Lucius |
As I said, same old people looking for a scapegoat rather than getting behind the players.
I am certain too that not all his kicks went to the Charlton #5. |
His kicking was poor yesterday
There was that strange thing of a him catching a ball with no one around and then dropping it, that’s not going to install confidence with the centre backs
There’s a good keeper there as I said in my original post but he needs to go on loan and comeback to us ready for next year | |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
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| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 09:45 - Aug 31 with 1823 views | Esox_Lucius |
One very simple change I observed was his dead ball kicks to Jimmy Dunne on the touchline; the majority that he hit from right to left either went straight out, defender won them or Jimmy was unable to do much with them as he was flat footed when they arrived. Twice Walsh curled them right to left which meant Jimmy could attack the ball, which he did, and won both balls in the air. A minor thing, but would count as an improvement IMO. | |
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| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 09:48 - Aug 31 with 1789 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 09:43 - Aug 31 by paulparker |
His kicking was poor yesterday
There was that strange thing of a him catching a ball with no one around and then dropping it, that’s not going to install confidence with the centre backs
There’s a good keeper there as I said in my original post but he needs to go on loan and comeback to us ready for next year |
Trying to pick out Dunne on the wing is sometimes going to have the ball sail out of play as it did when Nardi tried it. Dunne missed a couple that were aimed well too which made it look worse.
People will disagree but I don’t think the goal is his fault. Those are horrible for the keeper where you’re expecting someone to get a touch on it and it doesn’t come and then it’s too late to stop it rolling in. Commanded his box well particularly at 1-1 with the crosses coming in. That big punch he came out for and got would never have happened with Nardi. Obviously Nardi makes some big saves but it’s weird people forget the glaring faults in his game that a team like Charlton would have exposed more than others. We’ve not got huge centre-halves so we need a goalkeeper not glued to his line more than most. | | | |
| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 10:11 - Aug 31 with 1666 views | Paddyhoops |
Want Walsh to succeed but Nardi is the better keeper.
Don’t see what the problem is . Pick the better player. | | | |
| Playing Walsh after the 7-1 defeat on 10:44 - Aug 31 with 1565 views | Kiko |
Hope he improves, but he's been really poor so far. I understand people wanting to make excuses for him, but he's not been good enough and everyone around me was sure he was going to cost us the game yesterday.
I'm not sure Nardi is the answer either. Would just like a reliable experienced goalkeeper brought in. Would make a world of difference to the defence. At one point yesterday Dunne looked ready to fight him | | | |
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