| The Next 5 Games 10:20 - Sep 18 with 2070 views | jopreston |
Another 5 games and we will be 10 games in. Most promotion chasing teams will expect to have at least 2 points per game by then. So around 20 points or more. That means we need 14 points from our next 5 (not possible of course). But can we get say 13 from this lot?
Hull v Saints
Saints v Boro
Sheffield UTD v Saints
Derby v Saints
Southampton Swansea
13 + 6 = 19 of course, which should have in good contention with the leaders. It seems no one is running away with it as yet, so it may be by the that the leaders only have say 22 points, leaving us just 3 behind.
There are 3 games there we should win. Typical that we have to play Sheffield UTD after Selles has gone and they were so beatable. Impossible to predict Saints of course, but i can see us only getting like 10 or 11 points from that lot with the way things are and a slight improvement.
What y'all think?
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| The Next 5 Games on 10:42 - Sep 18 with 1717 views | SaintNick |
Two years ago we had 13 points after 10 games |  |
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| The Next 5 Games on 10:46 - Sep 18 with 1701 views | jopreston |
| The Next 5 Games on 10:42 - Sep 18 by SaintNick |
Two years ago we had 13 points after 10 games |
Indeed, with I think a better quad than we have now to be honest. An even though I hated his tactics, we also had a manager who understood the championship. Still is learning as he goes. | | | |
| The Next 5 Games on 10:55 - Sep 18 with 1664 views | PatfromPoole |
| The Next 5 Games on 10:42 - Sep 18 by SaintNick |
Two years ago we had 13 points after 10 games |
I think it's a much more open League than it has been for the last 2 seasons.
Two seasons ago, the top 2 (Leicester and Ipswich) finished on 97 and 96 points, and the 3rd place team (Leeds) were on 90. We had 87.
And then last season the top 2 (Leeds and Burnley) both finished on 100 points.
I would be very surprised if that happened again this season.
There don't seem to be any stand-out teams this season, although admittedly whenever I have seen Coventry, they have looked pretty good.
Which means you could have a situation where you have a team in mid-table at Christmas who could go on a great run from January onwards and end up in the top 2.
If we can stay in the mix at Christmas, and then get a much-needed striker in the January window, we could yet get to where we want to be. |  |
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| The Next 5 Games on 11:30 - Sep 18 with 1562 views | saintmark1976 |
We are already seven points behind the leaders and six behind the second placed team and currently fifteenth in the league after just five matches.
We have achieved this by playing four out of five teams ( Wrexham, Stoke, Watford and Portsmouth) that will in all likelihood finish mid table at best.
We have scored six goals with only two coming from forwards.
We have spent £50 million on nondescript interchangeable midfielders and wingers whilst still not getting a centre forward who can hold a ball up.
We have a manager who never played professionally and has never managed previously in any English League who doesn’t appear to know how he wants us to play let alone his best team.
Thirteen points from the next fifteen ? All the evidence points completely in the opposite direction I’m afraid. |  |
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| The Next 5 Games on 11:59 - Sep 18 with 1520 views | TripleNiemi |
| The Next 5 Games on 10:46 - Sep 18 by jopreston |
Indeed, with I think a better quad than we have now to be honest. An even though I hated his tactics, we also had a manager who understood the championship. Still is learning as he goes. |
BRING RYLAN HOME |  |
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| The Next 5 Games on 12:17 - Sep 18 with 1508 views | PatfromPoole |
| The Next 5 Games on 11:59 - Sep 18 by TripleNiemi |
BRING RYLAN HOME |
Now there's a post to divide opinion...... | |
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| The Next 5 Games on 13:22 - Sep 18 with 1428 views | Ifonly |
It will be interesting to see what happens to Sheff Utd. They will obviously improve as they can't be any worse than they were under Selles and Wilder is a man who knows how to get a tune out of average players. Will they get back to last year's form and get into the play-offs? They sold a couple of important players but brought in Ben Mee and Danny Ings who I'm told are the solution to every problem in football. | | | |
| The Next 5 Games on 16:06 - Sep 18 with 1239 views | saint901 |
Expecting the present team to acquire enough points to be in touching distance of the top of the table in the next five games, is fantasy.
One of the characteristics of a team in development is inconsistency. The game against Portsmouth was a good example.
Poor first half - better second. We improved again when the subs came on - pity they were too late to influence the result.
The players are still learning how not to play the Martin way. The manager is learning how the Championship works.
If we are top half of the table at Christmas we may be in with a play off shout, but but he end of October - I'd be very surprised. | | | |
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| The Next 5 Games on 16:14 - Sep 18 with 1220 views | saintwizzler |
| The Next 5 Games on 16:06 - Sep 18 by saint901 |
Expecting the present team to acquire enough points to be in touching distance of the top of the table in the next five games, is fantasy.
One of the characteristics of a team in development is inconsistency. The game against Portsmouth was a good example.
Poor first half - better second. We improved again when the subs came on - pity they were too late to influence the result.
The players are still learning how not to play the Martin way. The manager is learning how the Championship works.
If we are top half of the table at Christmas we may be in with a play off shout, but but he end of October - I'd be very surprised. |
‘The players are still learning how not to play the Martin way.’
What? |  |
| We thought that we had the answers,
It was the questions we had wrong. |
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| The Next 5 Games on 16:21 - Sep 18 with 1203 views | saint901 |
The manager noted as much after the Ipswich game and he was right.
There are elements to how the team play that belong to the Martin regime, such as short or under hit passes from full backs to central midfield where teams seem to out number our players - as we saw in the first half against Portsmouth.
The defenders in particular need some options other than trying to be pinpoint accurate into a crowded area. | | | |
| The Next 5 Games on 16:53 - Sep 18 with 1162 views | PatfromPoole |
| The Next 5 Games on 16:21 - Sep 18 by saint901 |
The manager noted as much after the Ipswich game and he was right.
There are elements to how the team play that belong to the Martin regime, such as short or under hit passes from full backs to central midfield where teams seem to out number our players - as we saw in the first half against Portsmouth.
The defenders in particular need some options other than trying to be pinpoint accurate into a crowded area. |
Agreed.
Our play is still too slow and ponderous without enough movement off the ball to give our defenders an option with the ball.
I think a lot of this will be solved when the ultimate Martin clone Downes is removed from the team, which must surely be imminent.
We should have a much more balanced midfield when he is dropped for Jander, who I think will link the play much better. | |
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| The Next 5 Games on 18:13 - Sep 18 with 1094 views | cocklebreath |
Why does It take our players so long to learn new ways of playing?
Can we just have a manager cone in and transform us straight away just once? |  |
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| The Next 5 Games on 18:29 - Sep 18 with 1070 views | kernow |
When was the last time that happened?
Maybe when Pochettino replaced Adkins.
I thought things were already looking up at that time anyway. | | | |
| The Next 5 Games on 18:32 - Sep 18 with 1060 views | kernow |
| The Next 5 Games on 16:53 - Sep 18 by PatfromPoole |
Agreed.
Our play is still too slow and ponderous without enough movement off the ball to give our defenders an option with the ball.
I think a lot of this will be solved when the ultimate Martin clone Downes is removed from the team, which must surely be imminent.
We should have a much more balanced midfield when he is dropped for Jander, who I think will link the play much better. |
Flynn Downes definitely needs to be dropped . | | | |
| The Next 5 Games on 18:40 - Sep 18 with 1038 views | saintwizzler |
| The Next 5 Games on 18:13 - Sep 18 by cocklebreath |
Why does It take our players so long to learn new ways of playing?
Can we just have a manager cone in and transform us straight away just once? |
Martin has been gone 9 months.
Will Still has been at the club all summer.
There were 4 players that started on Sunday that weren’t involved with Martin.
If Will Still can’t put his style of play on the players then what is he doing as manager? | |
| We thought that we had the answers,
It was the questions we had wrong. |
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| The Next 5 Games on 18:57 - Sep 18 with 1018 views | cocklebreath |
| The Next 5 Games on 18:32 - Sep 18 by kernow |
Flynn Downes definitely needs to be dropped . |
No need he’s got dodgy guts again, flakey, gutless weasel | |
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| The Next 5 Games on 19:02 - Sep 18 with 1003 views | PJK1972 |
Hull - Going to stick my neck out 3 Points - We should be beating these ffs!
Boro - 1 Point. I'd be surprised if we can break them down with the way we are playing.
Sheffied Utd - Nil Poit. They will have the Wilder bounce and away will be tough.
Derby - 3 Points. Only there 2nd season up and they aren't as good as the Skates.
Swansea 3 Point . Meat and drink like 2 seasons ago, or at least should be!
I'm an optimist but 16 Points from 10 games would seem to be the best we can do and although we haven't blown promotion, We need vast improvement to head in that direction. | | | |
| The Next 5 Games on 20:10 - Sep 18 with 941 views | TripleNiemi |
| The Next 5 Games on 19:02 - Sep 18 by PJK1972 |
Hull - Going to stick my neck out 3 Points - We should be beating these ffs!
Boro - 1 Point. I'd be surprised if we can break them down with the way we are playing.
Sheffied Utd - Nil Poit. They will have the Wilder bounce and away will be tough.
Derby - 3 Points. Only there 2nd season up and they aren't as good as the Skates.
Swansea 3 Point . Meat and drink like 2 seasons ago, or at least should be!
I'm an optimist but 16 Points from 10 games would seem to be the best we can do and although we haven't blown promotion, We need vast improvement to head in that direction. |
Blown promotion? Christ, the season’s only just started……
(I think our pal from Denmark has rubbed off on me………) | |
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| The Next 5 Games on 20:42 - Sep 18 with 897 views | 1ASIN12 |
| The Next 5 Games on 18:40 - Sep 18 by saintwizzler |
Martin has been gone 9 months.
Will Still has been at the club all summer.
There were 4 players that started on Sunday that weren’t involved with Martin.
If Will Still can’t put his style of play on the players then what is he doing as manager? |
I do agree with you here.
Fans keep blaming a manager that left 9 months ago and we are now on our 3rd manager since Martin left. How long will Martin still get the blame?
As for how long it takes for Still or impose his playing style, Martin got the team playing his way in our 1st game at Sheffield Wednesday where we made about 1000 passes or something during our 2-1 win.
Still has had all summer to get the team playing his way and so far we’ve not seen it or if we have his way is shit .
He’s now got the players he supposedly wanted time to show us on the pitch by getting results to challenge for the play offs.
To get 6 th place is normally around the low 70’s points or around 1.6 points per game . We currently are averaging 1.2 points per game.
Getting 10 points in our next 5 will get us back up to averaging 1.6 points per game and challenging for the playoffs.
Over to you a Will. | | | |
| The Next 5 Games on 20:55 - Sep 18 with 865 views | felly1 |
| The Next 5 Games on 20:42 - Sep 18 by 1ASIN12 |
I do agree with you here.
Fans keep blaming a manager that left 9 months ago and we are now on our 3rd manager since Martin left. How long will Martin still get the blame?
As for how long it takes for Still or impose his playing style, Martin got the team playing his way in our 1st game at Sheffield Wednesday where we made about 1000 passes or something during our 2-1 win.
Still has had all summer to get the team playing his way and so far we’ve not seen it or if we have his way is shit .
He’s now got the players he supposedly wanted time to show us on the pitch by getting results to challenge for the play offs.
To get 6 th place is normally around the low 70’s points or around 1.6 points per game . We currently are averaging 1.2 points per game.
Getting 10 points in our next 5 will get us back up to averaging 1.6 points per game and challenging for the playoffs.
Over to you a Will. |
Martin also had .
Kwp
Che Adams
Stuart Armstrong
Bednarek.
All these above players have been replaced with inferior ones....seemingly...time will tell. | | | |
| The Next 5 Games on 21:02 - Sep 18 with 848 views | saintwizzler |
| The Next 5 Games on 20:55 - Sep 18 by felly1 |
Martin also had .
Kwp
Che Adams
Stuart Armstrong
Bednarek.
All these above players have been replaced with inferior ones....seemingly...time will tell. |
You are correct.
Sport Republic bought players this summer but still came away with £62m profit after sales.
This will help redevelop the Northam Gas Site.
Get a few apartments on there!! | |
| We thought that we had the answers,
It was the questions we had wrong. |
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| The Next 5 Games on 21:03 - Sep 18 with 844 views | Southamptonfan |
| The Next 5 Games on 20:55 - Sep 18 by felly1 |
Martin also had .
Kwp
Che Adams
Stuart Armstrong
Bednarek.
All these above players have been replaced with inferior ones....seemingly...time will tell. |
Never thought I would say it, but how we miss Che Adams up front. [Post edited 18 Sep 21:06]
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| The Next 5 Games on 22:03 - Sep 18 with 770 views | 1885_SFC |
| The Next 5 Games on 20:10 - Sep 18 by TripleNiemi |
Blown promotion? Christ, the season’s only just started……
(I think our pal from Denmark has rubbed off on me………) |
Pervert... |  |
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| The Next 5 Games on 22:52 - Sep 18 with 710 views | mushinexile |
I fully expect us to below 1 point per game having played ten. My confidence in the team is even lower than theirs. We have a bad case of the Dunning-Kruger effect. | |
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| The Next 5 Games on 09:50 - Sep 19 with 411 views | PJK1972 |
| The Next 5 Games on 20:10 - Sep 18 by TripleNiemi |
Blown promotion? Christ, the season’s only just started……
(I think our pal from Denmark has rubbed off on me………) |
I did say that we hadn't blown promotion to be fair. Imagine if the late show against Wrexham didn't happen and Skates Crossbar effort bounced in, instead of out. I think we have had a decent amount of luck to be on 6 points.
I am hopeful we'll improve to challenge for the playoff spots at least though. | | | |
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