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Listened to the W12 pod on the way in to work this morning, they mentioned the experiment with Frey and Kone up front against Oxford, and that Kolli might make a better partner for Kone for games where Burrell isn't available.
I hadn't thought about this before, but Kolli always struggled as a lone striker, but might be much better suited to working off a target man like Kone. He's dropped off the radar a bit, but by all accounts did well when he came on against Bristol City, and could hopefully benefit from our new system this season as part of a rotation up front. We know he knows where the goal is.
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Kolli up front in a two on 13:33 - Oct 8 with 2015 views
I can't see why he would have signed a new contract if he wasn't in the plans. I think he needs to play the 10 when he is on. Seems miles more comfortable playing behind a striker down the middle. Apart from the hair he is now a deceptively big unit for his age. Way bigger physically than he was last season. He has bags of skill and I think used appropriately through this season he will start to prove himself to any doubters...
He'll probably be sold in the new year now I have said this!
Kolli up front in a two on 13:13 - Oct 8 by BazzaInTheLoft
Well, it might all be tosh, and I don’t want to get Clive’s yacht confiscated so I’d rather not say but this is a Kolli thread I’m sure the it’s probably the people you think it would be bearing in mind the who gets criticism on this forum a lot.
Its like Steve Slade all over again!
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Kolli up front in a two on 13:39 - Oct 8 with 1991 views
Worked well to date but if and when we find any decent sides on the horizon Kone might be better employed as an out and out centre forward, not least if Chair and Poku ever get fit.
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Kolli up front in a two on 14:04 - Oct 8 with 1879 views
Kolli up front in a two on 10:20 - Oct 8 by kingsburyR
I don't see what all the fuss is about Kolli.
Has always flattered to deceive in my eyes.
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49 to 59 secs here.
Was the moment I was convinced this lad will be a player. I remember seeing that video on it's own and thinking "yep". You'd struggle to coach that sort of vision and confidence.
As a showreel clip goes the rest of it is pretty impressive but we know how these can be edited.
A shame there's a load of "other noise" around him as I really do think he could make it to the top but with every passing month it feels like it won't be here. Which is sad.
Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal
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Kolli up front in a two on 14:09 - Oct 8 with 1862 views
I think Kolli has potential, especially if he can overcome his regular fitness/injury issues. Ultimately I don't think we know how good he can be until he gets regular minutes and clocks more games. I think he's only just got up to 10 starts and 20 odd sub appearances? I'd wager he's probably not had more than 3-5 total 90mins across all of those...
I do have concerns with the noise that seems to swirl around him, and I think there's clearly something a little odd about the last 4 games. After Wrexham JS made a specific point about how well he'd trained and how disappointed he was not to be able to get him on the pitch, then he wasn't even in the squad for Sheff W or Oxford...
My feeling is that he has a part to play and would make an ideal option for 3rd/4th choice striker or depth across the forward line generally, all of which would be greatly improved by just getting his head down, keeping the media chat about him (and his Dad/reps) down to a minimum, and continuing to work on the off ball stuff that you need if you want to be a genuine starter.
It feels a little like the ball is in his court here, but the conern is - along with Morgan - that if we ever get our arse in gear with availability across the squad, they're going to be too far down the pecking order to even get a place on the bench. In that situation can you be humble enough to dip into the dev squad? Keep working? Stay a positive member of the squad? I have my doubts with RK...
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Kolli up front in a two on 14:21 - Oct 8 with 1804 views
I think Kolli has potential, especially if he can overcome his regular fitness/injury issues. Ultimately I don't think we know how good he can be until he gets regular minutes and clocks more games. I think he's only just got up to 10 starts and 20 odd sub appearances? I'd wager he's probably not had more than 3-5 total 90mins across all of those...
I do have concerns with the noise that seems to swirl around him, and I think there's clearly something a little odd about the last 4 games. After Wrexham JS made a specific point about how well he'd trained and how disappointed he was not to be able to get him on the pitch, then he wasn't even in the squad for Sheff W or Oxford...
My feeling is that he has a part to play and would make an ideal option for 3rd/4th choice striker or depth across the forward line generally, all of which would be greatly improved by just getting his head down, keeping the media chat about him (and his Dad/reps) down to a minimum, and continuing to work on the off ball stuff that you need if you want to be a genuine starter.
It feels a little like the ball is in his court here, but the conern is - along with Morgan - that if we ever get our arse in gear with availability across the squad, they're going to be too far down the pecking order to even get a place on the bench. In that situation can you be humble enough to dip into the dev squad? Keep working? Stay a positive member of the squad? I have my doubts with RK...
The noise around him is mostly from 20 old blokes on here
He's had a stop start 2 years due to injuries, so I don't think he can be judged just yet. If he gets a run in the team without injury we can judge him then. I think he's got it, and upstairs, too. His work rate and game management on Saturday was very good. He also didn't look like somebody who was unhappy at the end of the game.
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Kolli up front in a two on 14:26 - Oct 8 with 1784 views
Firstly Kolli is not a wide player. He’s a central forward. A really smart strong skilled linking centre forward. If you put him out wide he looks average. As Bristol showed, his quick link play and class are a real weapon up front.
Second. Like Saito before him, he is GROSSLY under rated by many on this board. He’s excellent and he’s only 20 years old. If we let him go it will be a big big mistake.
I’d be open to a loan but a sale, unless for big bucks, is a mistake.
Thirdly, as Northern says, he’s a better partner for Kone or Frey than they are for each other. I see Kolli in a Sheringham type role.
After Brizzle I expect Stephan to play him a lot more.
Kolli up front in a two on 14:32 - Oct 8 by WestbourneR
Three things.
Firstly Kolli is not a wide player. He’s a central forward. A really smart strong skilled linking centre forward. If you put him out wide he looks average. As Bristol showed, his quick link play and class are a real weapon up front.
Second. Like Saito before him, he is GROSSLY under rated by many on this board. He’s excellent and he’s only 20 years old. If we let him go it will be a big big mistake.
I’d be open to a loan but a sale, unless for big bucks, is a mistake.
Thirdly, as Northern says, he’s a better partner for Kone or Frey than they are for each other. I see Kolli in a Sheringham type role.
After Brizzle I expect Stephan to play him a lot more.
100% agree.
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Kolli up front in a two on 14:32 - Oct 8 by WestbourneR
Three things.
Firstly Kolli is not a wide player. He’s a central forward. A really smart strong skilled linking centre forward. If you put him out wide he looks average. As Bristol showed, his quick link play and class are a real weapon up front.
Second. Like Saito before him, he is GROSSLY under rated by many on this board. He’s excellent and he’s only 20 years old. If we let him go it will be a big big mistake.
I’d be open to a loan but a sale, unless for big bucks, is a mistake.
Thirdly, as Northern says, he’s a better partner for Kone or Frey than they are for each other. I see Kolli in a Sheringham type role.
After Brizzle I expect Stephan to play him a lot more.
Yeah here's hoping.
Interesting though how Morgan is currently on the periphery.
Kolli up front in a two on 15:07 - Oct 8 by TheChef
Yeah here's hoping.
Interesting though how Morgan is currently on the periphery.
I still wonder with Morgan how much of that initial BURST onto the scene was exactly that.
Our midfield was absolutely fcking awful, so it wouldn't have needed much to look quite good in it. The year before EDB did quite a decent impression of a Championship midfielder in the same circumstances, and it would appear now that he's a long way shy of that.
One of its biggest problems is it couldn't run, and one thing Morgan certainly can do is run.
And as an 18 year old lad suddenly thrust into the first team, I bet there was a huge amount of nervous energy, excitement and adrenalin buzzing through him that basically piled him through those first few games - just run and run and run until you can't run any more (Norwich away last season).
Once you get into the day to day, week to week slog of the Championship you need more than that.
Depending where our midfield is in January, he might be a good candidate for a loan if you could get him upper end of League One. He's played very little senior football and is still very young.
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Kolli up front in a two on 15:14 - Oct 8 with 1586 views
I actually see Chair as the Burell replacement. Stephan says he wants him in the middle influencing things and you've already got Saito, Smyth, Vale, Poku and Dembele to play on the wings so don't think he plays there. Kolli could drop even further down the order
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Kolli up front in a two on 15:16 - Oct 8 with 1574 views
Kolli up front in a two on 15:14 - Oct 8 by BAWHoops
I actually see Chair as the Burell replacement. Stephan says he wants him in the middle influencing things and you've already got Saito, Smyth, Vale, Poku and Dembele to play on the wings so don't think he plays there. Kolli could drop even further down the order
Which would be a real shame. He's got something. I'm more with Westbourne on him. Background noise needs to end though.
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Kolli up front in a two on 15:21 - Oct 8 with 1551 views
Kolli up front in a two on 14:21 - Oct 8 by golborne
The noise around him is mostly from 20 old blokes on here
He's had a stop start 2 years due to injuries, so I don't think he can be judged just yet. If he gets a run in the team without injury we can judge him then. I think he's got it, and upstairs, too. His work rate and game management on Saturday was very good. He also didn't look like somebody who was unhappy at the end of the game.
I don't think that first one is a fair comment. You've got family members posting OGC Nice badges on social media during the summer transfer window. That's not 20 old blokes on here.
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Kolli up front in a two on 15:23 - Oct 8 with 1534 views
Kolli up front in a two on 14:32 - Oct 8 by WestbourneR
Three things.
Firstly Kolli is not a wide player. He’s a central forward. A really smart strong skilled linking centre forward. If you put him out wide he looks average. As Bristol showed, his quick link play and class are a real weapon up front.
Second. Like Saito before him, he is GROSSLY under rated by many on this board. He’s excellent and he’s only 20 years old. If we let him go it will be a big big mistake.
I’d be open to a loan but a sale, unless for big bucks, is a mistake.
Thirdly, as Northern says, he’s a better partner for Kone or Frey than they are for each other. I see Kolli in a Sheringham type role.
After Brizzle I expect Stephan to play him a lot more.
Thank you - this is spot on!
Random made up stories seem to detract away from his talent
Not totally footballing ability related (I do however think he has a lot about him)... but I have met Kolli a few times and he seems very humble and always stops for a chat / photo and talks up QPR.
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Kolli up front in a two on 15:44 - Oct 8 with 1415 views
Kolli up front in a two on 15:21 - Oct 8 by Northernr
I don't think that first one is a fair comment. You've got family members posting OGC Nice badges on social media during the summer transfer window. That's not 20 old blokes on here.
That may be true but I don't like how his families rumoured behaviour is being used to assassinate Kolli's character. "Background noise needs to end" - are we expecting him to cut out his family from his career? Seems like he's being put in a lose lose situation with this.
I'd prefer we judge him with what we know rather than rumours. One of the few players going over to speak to fans after 1-7. Coming on at Bristol and putting in a shift rather than sulking after being left out. I'm not seeing "attitude issues" or "background noise" on the pitch and that's all that matters to me at least
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Kolli up front in a two on 15:48 - Oct 8 with 1395 views
Kolli up front in a two on 15:44 - Oct 8 by QPRSam
That may be true but I don't like how his families rumoured behaviour is being used to assassinate Kolli's character. "Background noise needs to end" - are we expecting him to cut out his family from his career? Seems like he's being put in a lose lose situation with this.
I'd prefer we judge him with what we know rather than rumours. One of the few players going over to speak to fans after 1-7. Coming on at Bristol and putting in a shift rather than sulking after being left out. I'm not seeing "attitude issues" or "background noise" on the pitch and that's all that matters to me at least
Both can be true at once.
100% agree that on the pitch, from what I have seen, he has never put in less than his all. This includes last year where he was our only fit striker and was scoring every other game, sometimes dragging us out the dirt.
However, family members stirring is a cause for concern, for example Garnacho's brother is very vocal on twitter and it appears he was a leak for several line ups last season and generally causing many issues.
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Kolli up front in a two on 16:08 - Oct 8 with 1298 views
Kolli up front in a two on 15:14 - Oct 8 by BAWHoops
I actually see Chair as the Burell replacement. Stephan says he wants him in the middle influencing things and you've already got Saito, Smyth, Vale, Poku and Dembele to play on the wings so don't think he plays there. Kolli could drop even further down the order
Agree on Chair. I think he would be fantastic playing next to Kone. Chair has got an engine and can press as well as being very creative.
Kolli up front in a two on 15:44 - Oct 8 by QPRSam
That may be true but I don't like how his families rumoured behaviour is being used to assassinate Kolli's character. "Background noise needs to end" - are we expecting him to cut out his family from his career? Seems like he's being put in a lose lose situation with this.
I'd prefer we judge him with what we know rather than rumours. One of the few players going over to speak to fans after 1-7. Coming on at Bristol and putting in a shift rather than sulking after being left out. I'm not seeing "attitude issues" or "background noise" on the pitch and that's all that matters to me at least
Where have I used it to assassinate Kolli's character? I've said above I'd have him in the team a lot more. I agree with Westbourne, I think he's got great potential.
I agree with you about his behaviour at Coventry when others were too afraid or couldn't be arsd. I said in the report on here I thought he was good at Bristol. Totally with you. By all accounts, Kolli himself is a great lad.
But that OSG Nice thing isn't a rumour at all, it happened. And that stuff needs to stop. Because it's not helpful to him, and it's not good for his relationship and ongoing prospects here at QPR.
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Kolli up front in a two on 16:15 - Oct 8 with 1281 views
He's already played 30-odd games under three managers in difficult seasons at Championship level and scored five goals in doing so, at least three of them (that I can remember) high-pressure, game-changers in must-wins as a teenager.
If we were to sign a 20-year-old with those stats to play as the third or fourth striker when we play two-up top I'd be very happy. Looks from Saturday that that is his role. Great.
If we're fattening him to sell as we have with Kelman or Armstrong, he'll be more valuable I think. Kone, Burrell and Frey will all miss games through fitness, as will Kolli, and they will all get games and all sometimes will look handy. Rack 'em and stack them, as the much falsely maligned (by the oracle Lassel: Swindon currently second) Olly used to say.
Just for comparison, he's played more games and scored more goals than either Chair or Eze at his age, while similarly often played out of position. I'm not saying he's as good as they are. But I am saying there's still a chance.
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Kolli up front in a two on 16:19 - Oct 8 with 1233 views
Kolli up front in a two on 16:14 - Oct 8 by Northernr
Where have I used it to assassinate Kolli's character? I've said above I'd have him in the team a lot more. I agree with Westbourne, I think he's got great potential.
I agree with you about his behaviour at Coventry when others were too afraid or couldn't be arsd. I said in the report on here I thought he was good at Bristol. Totally with you. By all accounts, Kolli himself is a great lad.
But that OSG Nice thing isn't a rumour at all, it happened. And that stuff needs to stop. Because it's not helpful to him, and it's not good for his relationship and ongoing prospects here at QPR.
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It wasn't directed at you but others have definitely made the correlation which I don't think is fair. I agree with your last point, there's nothing good to come with that behaviour but I just don't like that being used as a stick to bash Kolli with. Hopefully it can be resolved, as for the man himself, he wouldn't have signed a long term contract recently if he wanted to go to Nice etc
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Kolli up front in a two on 16:29 - Oct 8 with 1180 views
Kolli up front in a two on 16:19 - Oct 8 by QPRSam
It wasn't directed at you but others have definitely made the correlation which I don't think is fair. I agree with your last point, there's nothing good to come with that behaviour but I just don't like that being used as a stick to bash Kolli with. Hopefully it can be resolved, as for the man himself, he wouldn't have signed a long term contract recently if he wanted to go to Nice etc
Apols, you replied to my post so I thought it was aimed at me.
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Kolli up front in a two on 16:44 - Oct 8 with 1092 views
Kolli up front in a two on 15:12 - Oct 8 by Northernr
I still wonder with Morgan how much of that initial BURST onto the scene was exactly that.
Our midfield was absolutely fcking awful, so it wouldn't have needed much to look quite good in it. The year before EDB did quite a decent impression of a Championship midfielder in the same circumstances, and it would appear now that he's a long way shy of that.
One of its biggest problems is it couldn't run, and one thing Morgan certainly can do is run.
And as an 18 year old lad suddenly thrust into the first team, I bet there was a huge amount of nervous energy, excitement and adrenalin buzzing through him that basically piled him through those first few games - just run and run and run until you can't run any more (Norwich away last season).
Once you get into the day to day, week to week slog of the Championship you need more than that.
Depending where our midfield is in January, he might be a good candidate for a loan if you could get him upper end of League One. He's played very little senior football and is still very young.
Right sort from what I can see. Hope we can him going.
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