| Caerphilly by-election 09:51 - Oct 13 with 3816 views | trampie |
Reform favourites, Plaid the only other party that could win it, seems like Labour, Tories, Lib-Dems etc are nowhere.
Talk is Plaid can win if its a low turnout as they tend to get their vote out, Reform will expect to win if its a reasonable turnout as the not particularly politically engaged voters/floating voters might well vote Reform. |  |
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| Caerphilly by-election on 17:29 - Oct 24 with 762 views | onehunglow |
| Caerphilly by-election on 14:44 - Oct 24 by union_jack |
Si vis pacem, para bellum as the old cockney saying goes. |
Brilliant
Ars longa vital brevis |  |
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| Caerphilly by-election on 17:42 - Oct 24 with 742 views | johnlangy |
| Caerphilly by-election on 17:18 - Oct 24 by Gwyn737 |
Looks like the reverse happened. |
'So a low turn out = plaid success. Says it all really.'
Correct Gwyn. It appears the implication in the post is that Plaid don't really have that much support and the only way they'll win is with their own supporters getting out to vote while others stay home not voting.
So not having much support turns into almost 50%. Brilliant result. | | | |
| Caerphilly by-election on 17:58 - Oct 24 with 713 views | trampie |
Great win for Plaid, hope they can use it as a springboard for next years Senedd elections, for starters there is no reason why they can't win the same seat again as Plaid had more votes than Reform and Labour added together. | |
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| Caerphilly by-election on 21:05 - Oct 24 with 593 views | ItchySphincter |
| Caerphilly by-election on 05:58 - Oct 20 by AguycalledJack |
That plaid are reliant on voter apathy to win. |
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| Caerphilly by-election on 22:29 - Oct 24 with 549 views | johnlangy |
| Caerphilly by-election on 05:58 - Oct 20 by AguycalledJack |
That plaid are reliant on voter apathy to win. |
AFAIK there has never been a turnout over 50% in a Senedd byelection which shows that the voters in Caerphilly were anything but apathetic.
I think it's fair to say guy that the opposite to what you thought would happen happened and you should admit that you were wrong. | | | |
| Caerphilly by-election on 22:37 - Oct 24 with 543 views | onehunglow |
| Caerphilly by-election on 22:29 - Oct 24 by johnlangy |
AFAIK there has never been a turnout over 50% in a Senedd byelection which shows that the voters in Caerphilly were anything but apathetic.
I think it's fair to say guy that the opposite to what you thought would happen happened and you should admit that you were wrong. |
With respect they absolutely are apathetic ; to Labour whom they have been told to vote for from the mothers breast
Conservatives still seen as demons
Now Plaid is tucked up with pacifist , tree hugging Greens
Personally , Ive always been into politics and voted at every election but right now I would hack my fingers off than vote for any of them
We are still class obsessed and still party can truly honestly prioritise the majority of folk on this country | |
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| Caerphilly by-election on 09:49 - Oct 25 with 437 views | Whiterockin |
| Caerphilly by-election on 22:37 - Oct 24 by onehunglow |
With respect they absolutely are apathetic ; to Labour whom they have been told to vote for from the mothers breast
Conservatives still seen as demons
Now Plaid is tucked up with pacifist , tree hugging Greens
Personally , Ive always been into politics and voted at every election but right now I would hack my fingers off than vote for any of them
We are still class obsessed and still party can truly honestly prioritise the majority of folk on this country |
With respect. You don't live in Wales and can't vote in the Senedd elections. |  | | |
| Caerphilly by-election on 10:48 - Oct 25 with 388 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Absolutely astounding Labour crashed to just 11% in a heartland “safe seat”.
The way things are going I can honestly see them with less than 30 seats at the next general election. There’ll be tactical voting all over the country in an attempt to stop Reform getting in but an awful lot of traditional Labour voters will go to Jezbollah and the Green idiots. |  |
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| Caerphilly by-election on 11:26 - Oct 25 with 348 views | onehunglow |
| Caerphilly by-election on 09:49 - Oct 25 by Whiterockin |
With respect. You don't live in Wales and can't vote in the Senedd elections. |
Equally with respect, my comments related to Westminster , our main parliament
I’m allowed to comment regardless of where I live , I believe
It’s like Welsh folk offering comments about matters English
I can see enough of Wales from our back bedroom | |
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| Caerphilly by-election on 12:53 - Oct 25 with 301 views | Whiterockin |
| Caerphilly by-election on 11:26 - Oct 25 by onehunglow |
Equally with respect, my comments related to Westminster , our main parliament
I’m allowed to comment regardless of where I live , I believe
It’s like Welsh folk offering comments about matters English
I can see enough of Wales from our back bedroom |
You refered to Plaid in your post, I'm not sure you would have a candidate to not vote for | | | |
| Caerphilly by-election on 13:50 - Oct 25 with 257 views | onehunglow |
| Caerphilly by-election on 12:53 - Oct 25 by Whiterockin |
You refered to Plaid in your post, I'm not sure you would have a candidate to not vote for |
If the young subhuman shite running around English cities had decamped to the valleys , the locals would be the first to vote to get them out
Tactics we have capitulated to NIMBYs and middle class tree huggers when we should take a leaf out of the likes of Poland and Hungary and simply not have them
The least we could do is to stop ALL benefits now
And no, they are not welcome | |
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| Caerphilly by-election on 14:08 - Oct 25 with 230 views | majorraglan |
| Caerphilly by-election on 07:30 - Oct 24 by Whiterockin |
I don't think immigration was the main issue in Caerphilly. With only 2% of the community not UK born the main issue was the failure of the Senedd government. With the increase in voting numbers it clearly shows people now believe a vote against Labour is not a wasted vote. Labour in Wales are finished as has been predicted and the main parties in Wales will be Plaid and Reform after the next years Senedd election. Who will win which seat will be determined by local as well as national issues, but one thing for sure is the tide has turned. The pin a red rosette on a sheep days are long gone. |
There are issues which have caused the current Labour regime in the Senedd to become unpopular, things like the 20mph speed limit, Vaughan Gething’s expenses, lack of a relief road around Newport to name but 3, but we’ll have to disagree about immigration being the main issue.
I don’t think it matters how many of Caerphilly’s population was born outside the U.K., immigration and the small boats issue has become the main cause of concern for a significant number of people in the U.K. Social Media and the main stream media are continuously featuring articles on arrival numbers. My mother is in her 80’s, lives in an overwhelmingly white area and is not impacted by immigration, but it’s something that’s she raises in conversation continually as a result of watching certain tv channels and reading certain newspapers.
Immigration and net immigration have for the last 4 or 5 years been at unprecedented levels and that’s the major issue for lots of people. | | | |
| Caerphilly by-election on 14:09 - Oct 25 with 224 views | union_jack |
| Caerphilly by-election on 13:50 - Oct 25 by onehunglow |
If the young subhuman shite running around English cities had decamped to the valleys , the locals would be the first to vote to get them out
Tactics we have capitulated to NIMBYs and middle class tree huggers when we should take a leaf out of the likes of Poland and Hungary and simply not have them
The least we could do is to stop ALL benefits now
And no, they are not welcome |
Although I agree with you, stopping benefits would lead to a lot more crime and anti social behaviour.
They just shouldn’t be let in at all. We are surrounded by sea for goodness sake. Surely with that and technology we should be able to stop them and send them back. Getting out of the ECHR woukd be a start but undoubtedly new challenges would be presented to us. We do need to be far more ruthless as a country though.
Land of Sanctuary my fat hairy shiny one!! |  |
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| Caerphilly by-election on 14:15 - Oct 25 with 218 views | majorraglan |
| Caerphilly by-election on 16:30 - Oct 24 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Reform are not Welsh and did not convince the people of Caerfili they could be trusted.
Reform would have won if they had backed up he Welsh system of government. Namely the Senedd. The Senedd balances the books every year even with a Socialist leadership. Drakeford has been vilified but he is working now on the accounts. He will not spend what he does not have and is not able cannot borrow or increase taxes. This is how UK should work.
He rejected the £1.6bilion.M4 relief road after seeing the HS2 contractors take the taxpayer for a massive ride. This would gave bankrupted Wales probably. UK infrastructure project management needs a review. Posters call this wise call a failure.
Lovely posh Laura Jones ex Tory let the cat out of the bag and put the Senedd on notice. Poor discipline Llyr the candidate did not know the policy. Rupert Lowe who is no longer in Reform saw the split and put his Southampton harbour boot in. Abolishing the Senedd which is none of his business .Zia Yusuf added his views
ecto Senedd far from perfect but is ours. Whittle then caught the mood " we the people of Caerfili are fed up of outsiders telling us what to do". Good for him
Reform in Wales have to state the the status of the Senedd is in the works of Steve Cooper " Non Negotiable". It is a red line. No one will get anywhere on Wales promoting " Regime change".
We want peace and stability..We have had this for centuries.. We are however not English. [Post edited 24 Oct 16:40]
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You are right about U.K. infrastructure project management needing a review because many of the projects have over run, cost many times what they initially should have, but Drakeford was offered a relief road by Boris and the U.K.Westminster government and rejected the offer- that was in my opinion stupid and unforgivable. I know people living in Newport and they besides themselves on account of the congestion.
Wales needs a good infrastructure to promote and deliver growth, the M4 relief road should have been a critical component of that strategy. Just look at what’s happening around Bristol, it’s booming. | | | |
| Caerphilly by-election on 14:35 - Oct 25 with 197 views | Luther27 |
| Caerphilly by-election on 14:08 - Oct 25 by majorraglan |
There are issues which have caused the current Labour regime in the Senedd to become unpopular, things like the 20mph speed limit, Vaughan Gething’s expenses, lack of a relief road around Newport to name but 3, but we’ll have to disagree about immigration being the main issue.
I don’t think it matters how many of Caerphilly’s population was born outside the U.K., immigration and the small boats issue has become the main cause of concern for a significant number of people in the U.K. Social Media and the main stream media are continuously featuring articles on arrival numbers. My mother is in her 80’s, lives in an overwhelmingly white area and is not impacted by immigration, but it’s something that’s she raises in conversation continually as a result of watching certain tv channels and reading certain newspapers.
Immigration and net immigration have for the last 4 or 5 years been at unprecedented levels and that’s the major issue for lots of people. |
Come the Senedd election my vote will be based purely on the actions of the Senedd that have an effect on me and mine locally.
My vote in the UK election will be based on my view of how Westminster has governed the UK. | | | |
| Caerphilly by-election on 14:39 - Oct 25 with 197 views | Demitrius |
| Caerphilly by-election on 13:50 - Oct 25 by onehunglow |
If the young subhuman shite running around English cities had decamped to the valleys , the locals would be the first to vote to get them out
Tactics we have capitulated to NIMBYs and middle class tree huggers when we should take a leaf out of the likes of Poland and Hungary and simply not have them
The least we could do is to stop ALL benefits now
And no, they are not welcome |
This is a valid point indeed.
Wales has not yet felt the full effects of uncontrolled mass immigration in the way the rest of the UK and Ireland have. London and Dublin are unrecognisable from 15 years ago. Even the Scots are pushing back as Glasgow has seen a disproportionate influx in recent times and the natives are getting restless. Welsh towns and cities still look and feel very much Welsh but that won't always be the case if Plaid and Labour open the floodgates which they seem hell bent on doing for some unfathomable reason.
I think many voters in Wales can see what is happening elsewhere in the UK and are drawn to the only party that is unequivocal about tackling the issue head on. |  |
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| Caerphilly by-election on 14:42 - Oct 25 with 184 views | majorraglan |
| Caerphilly by-election on 14:09 - Oct 25 by union_jack |
Although I agree with you, stopping benefits would lead to a lot more crime and anti social behaviour.
They just shouldn’t be let in at all. We are surrounded by sea for goodness sake. Surely with that and technology we should be able to stop them and send them back. Getting out of the ECHR woukd be a start but undoubtedly new challenges would be presented to us. We do need to be far more ruthless as a country though.
Land of Sanctuary my fat hairy shiny one!! |
Most of the people who’ve come here under the National of Sanctuary scheme were Ukrainian, I think 90% of the £55m that was spent was spent on Ukrainians. It’s also worth nothing that some of that money was given by the EU. | | | |
| Caerphilly by-election on 20:11 - Oct 25 with 101 views | onehunglow |
| Caerphilly by-election on 14:39 - Oct 25 by Demitrius |
This is a valid point indeed.
Wales has not yet felt the full effects of uncontrolled mass immigration in the way the rest of the UK and Ireland have. London and Dublin are unrecognisable from 15 years ago. Even the Scots are pushing back as Glasgow has seen a disproportionate influx in recent times and the natives are getting restless. Welsh towns and cities still look and feel very much Welsh but that won't always be the case if Plaid and Labour open the floodgates which they seem hell bent on doing for some unfathomable reason.
I think many voters in Wales can see what is happening elsewhere in the UK and are drawn to the only party that is unequivocal about tackling the issue head on. |
Few chancers see the dark damp Welsh valleys as attractive
Same with Gwynedd so it’s easy for them to pose as humanitarians supporting the oppressed
Gogs don’t even want the English in their villages
In many English cities , proud ones, things have changed radically over 50 yrs
They haven’t in most parts of wales | |
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| Caerphilly by-election on 22:45 - Oct 25 with 57 views | max936 |
| Caerphilly by-election on 16:54 - Oct 24 by ReslovenSwan1 |
If Reform has won I would not have insulted the voters. I see no reason why it Unionist flag wavers cannot love Wales and the Senedd. From what I can see the flag wavers and the poppy and military careers are symbolic of anti Senedd opinions.
This is sad. I support Welsh self determination and understanding union flag wavers and poppy wearers do not. [Post edited 24 Oct 17:02]
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You're not a poppy wearer then you don't support our fallen hero's, colour me not surprised. |  |
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