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Who will be watching? First one kicks off in 24 hours time.
The Democrats have pulled Joe back from his campaign trail recently to get him prepared, so hopefully it will be a decent exchange.
Unfortunately they don’t seem to have great confidence as they have spent the last month looking for any dirt they can dig up so Joe can use if he gets stuck.
It’s no coincidence that this vote influencing Facebook algorithm story is being shamelessly and inaccurately made into a race issue on the eve of the debates. So transparent and disingenuous, it’s a shame politics has come to this on this level where black people are being used in this way to score political points. I would be furious if I was them, but it does seem a lot of people are not falling for this one and calling it out for what it is.
People finally seem to be getting wise to this political race baiting which is refreshing to see.
It’s also telling that in the week of the debate they try and paint Trump as a tax evasion offender. I think that’s what they wanted the tax returns to show, they seem to have got annoyed when it turns out his tax returns were fine in accordance to what his companies profits were - but decided to run with it anyway. Any news is good news in their mind as it’s another thing Joe can use when in a tricky spot.
But I hope the discussions remain political and doesn’t turn into some form of gossip peddling reality TV episode.
Although I think there should be some kind of drinking game involved if it does turn that way, how many times Biden completely loses his thread of thought and blurts out “I mean, think about it...” you have to take a shot.
I will be watching with great interest anyway.
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Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:09 - Nov 13 by Dr_Parnassus
They weren't there to see anything.
Its like Alex Ferguson commenting on Joe Rodon and his relationship with Swansea. He has no idea, just because he is in the industry doesn't mean is witness to the internal workings of Swansea football club.
''Trumpists'' don't think anything. Allegations of voter fraud and voter malpractice have been brought forward on a scale never seen before. Regardless of who you support you should welcome and all investigations as we should all be supporters of Democracy.
That's unless you would prefer a result you want over democracy that is...
I prefer democracy to the result you want.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 04:16 - Nov 13 with 1218 views
"Official audit of almost all of Arizona's votes find NO evidence of fraud in another blow to Trump campaign - and judge blocks 'spam' it is trying to use in court"
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 04:26 - Nov 13 with 1213 views
"Widow, 94, reveals SHE cast one of the ballots that Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson claimed was submitted by a 'dead voter' in fresh blow to the president saying the election was rigged"
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 04:26 - Nov 13 by Groo
"Widow, 94, reveals SHE cast one of the ballots that Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson claimed was submitted by a 'dead voter' in fresh blow to the president saying the election was rigged"
“Fresh blow”
So a woman admits to illegally voting and you think that’s a blow?
You do know they weren’t actually claiming the dead bloke voted don’t you? They were pointing out a vote was cast in his name - which looks to be proven correct by the woman’s testimony.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 04:24 - Nov 13 by Groo
"Official audit of almost all of Arizona's votes find NO evidence of fraud in another blow to Trump campaign - and judge blocks 'spam' it is trying to use in court"
It’s right that accusations of wrong doing are investigated, BUT there should be recourse for ‘spamming’ the system in bad faith.
What a we at currently? 20 and 0 chucked out? If it’s feasibly possible that this drag on for years preventing any result, is that democracy?
Do we keep going to 1000 cases thrown out just in case there’s 1 that probably won’t have any material effect on the outcome?
It’s a massive election where theRe will be some errors, whether nefarious or by human mistake. Can you imagine how long it would take to provide a 100% accurate number of votes?
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 07:52 - Nov 13 with 1180 views
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 07:22 - Nov 13 by Gwyn737
It’s right that accusations of wrong doing are investigated, BUT there should be recourse for ‘spamming’ the system in bad faith.
What a we at currently? 20 and 0 chucked out? If it’s feasibly possible that this drag on for years preventing any result, is that democracy?
Do we keep going to 1000 cases thrown out just in case there’s 1 that probably won’t have any material effect on the outcome?
It’s a massive election where theRe will be some errors, whether nefarious or by human mistake. Can you imagine how long it would take to provide a 100% accurate number of votes?
Which is why there should have been a normal vote and not one open to such error and abuse.
And if we were to have such a vote then it needed to be conducted flawlessly in terms of protocol. Electing Republican poll watchers or keeping them 30-100 feet away and trying to block in the courts efforts to do that legal activity is only going to lead to suspicion.
None of the allegations have been to the Supreme Court so keeping a count of local and politicised courts really is fruitless.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 07:22 - Nov 13 by Gwyn737
It’s right that accusations of wrong doing are investigated, BUT there should be recourse for ‘spamming’ the system in bad faith.
What a we at currently? 20 and 0 chucked out? If it’s feasibly possible that this drag on for years preventing any result, is that democracy?
Do we keep going to 1000 cases thrown out just in case there’s 1 that probably won’t have any material effect on the outcome?
It’s a massive election where theRe will be some errors, whether nefarious or by human mistake. Can you imagine how long it would take to provide a 100% accurate number of votes?
It’s America. Pretty much everything is always decided by the courts.
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 06:46 - Nov 13 by Dr_Parnassus
“Fresh blow”
So a woman admits to illegally voting and you think that’s a blow?
You do know they weren’t actually claiming the dead bloke voted don’t you? They were pointing out a vote was cast in his name - which looks to be proven correct by the woman’s testimony.
"But in the case of the widow Blalock, the confusion occurred when she honored her late husband by writing her name, identifying herself as Mrs. James Blalock — a practice that was common decades ago but is not in keeping with current trends.
Mr. Blalock died 16 years ago. According to his obituary, he was a letter carrier in the Decatur post office for 33 years, and served in World War II in the army."
Her vote was a legitimate vote, she did not vote on behalf of a dead person. It was not an illegal vote that Trump's team claimed. She made a mistake but her vote was her vote.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:04 - Nov 13 with 1078 views
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 07:52 - Nov 13 by Dr_Parnassus
Which is why there should have been a normal vote and not one open to such error and abuse.
And if we were to have such a vote then it needed to be conducted flawlessly in terms of protocol. Electing Republican poll watchers or keeping them 30-100 feet away and trying to block in the courts efforts to do that legal activity is only going to lead to suspicion.
None of the allegations have been to the Supreme Court so keeping a count of local and politicised courts really is fruitless.
Doesn't matter there's a pandemic and people going to polling stations could be risking their lives.
This was not a normal year, the way the results swung was not unexpected seeing as one party strongly put out that people should vote in person as they played down the pandemic and the other party strongly put out that people should not risk themselves and do a postal vote.
So what we saw happen in the States that had rules that prohibited counting postal votes early was early republican leads that were reduced and sometimes passed by postal votes.
The counting is also taking an age as these are being checked thoroughly.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:07 - Nov 13 with 1076 views
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 13:57 - Nov 13 by Groo
"But in the case of the widow Blalock, the confusion occurred when she honored her late husband by writing her name, identifying herself as Mrs. James Blalock — a practice that was common decades ago but is not in keeping with current trends.
Mr. Blalock died 16 years ago. According to his obituary, he was a letter carrier in the Decatur post office for 33 years, and served in World War II in the army."
Her vote was a legitimate vote, she did not vote on behalf of a dead person. It was not an illegal vote that Trump's team claimed. She made a mistake but her vote was her vote.
Her vote was illegal. Not sure what’s so confusing.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:04 - Nov 13 by Groo
Doesn't matter there's a pandemic and people going to polling stations could be risking their lives.
This was not a normal year, the way the results swung was not unexpected seeing as one party strongly put out that people should vote in person as they played down the pandemic and the other party strongly put out that people should not risk themselves and do a postal vote.
So what we saw happen in the States that had rules that prohibited counting postal votes early was early republican leads that were reduced and sometimes passed by postal votes.
The counting is also taking an age as these are being checked thoroughly.
Odd that there just seems to be the pandemic in Democrat run states and everyone else manages to vote just fine.
Then when it suits then rush into the street.
If it’s safe enough to dance in the street, it’s safe enough to vote properly.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.