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Cardiff Airport 10:18 - Jan 13 with 42356 viewsjohnlangy

I know you're all desperate to use and support our Welsh airport based in RHOOSE.

So here is the list of flights available for your delectation and delight in the coming year.

Ryanair ✈️
4 flights a week to Dublin 🇮🇪
3 flights a week to Malaga 🇪🇸
3 flights a week to Alicante 🇪🇸
1 flight a week to Tenerife 🇪🇸
2 flights a week to Faro 🇵🇹
Vueling ✈️
3 flights a week to Alicante 🇪🇸
2 flights a week to Malaga 🇪🇸
KLM ✈️
3 flights a day to Amsterdam 🇳🇱
Loganair ✈️
6 flights a week to Edinburgh 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
Aer Lingus ✈️
Daily flights to Belfast City ☘️
Balkan Holidays ✈️
Saturday flights to Bulgaria 🇧🇬
TUI ✈️
6 flights a week to Palma 🇪🇸
3 flights a week to Dalaman 🇹🇷
3 flights a week to Antalya 🇹🇷
3 flights a week to Tenerife 🇪🇸
2 flights a week to Larnaca 🇨🇾
2 flights a week to Tunisia 🇹🇳
2 flights a week to Lanzarote 🇪🇸
2 flights a week to Paphos 🇨🇾
2 flights a week to Ibiza 🇪🇸
2 flights a week to Corfu 🇬🇷
2 flights a week to Alicante 🇪🇸
2 flights a week to Rhodes 🇬🇷
2 flights a week to Malaga 🇪🇸
2 flights a week to Menorca 🇪🇸
2 flights a week to Zante 🇬🇷
2 flights a week to Bulgaria 🇧🇬
2 flights a week to Kos 🇬🇷
1 flight a week to Dubrovnik 🇭🇷
1 flight a week to Kefalonia 🇬🇷
1 flight a week to Reus 🇪🇸
1 fight a week to Crete 🇬🇷
1 flight a week to Gran Canaria 🇪🇸

Enjoy
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Cardiff Airport on 21:58 - May 16 with 865 viewsSullutaCreturned

Cardiff Airport on 21:47 - May 16 by Kilkennyjack

I think you are confused.

Bristol Airport is a company.
Wales is a nation.

Nobody elected the leader of Bristol Airport.
The people of Wales elected our Senedd.

Of course there are rules and laws.
For instance the airports in Scotland and north of Ireland have airport passenger tax devolved so they can make the airports successful.
This flexibility has not been afforded to Wales - i wonder why ?
Some people might say that looking after English airports has taken priority.

The Senedd is looking out for wales - and thats exactly what we elected them to do.

For the welsh people arguing that wales does not need an airport, then you are part of the problem.
Of course wales needs and deserves an international airport.


After reading that then clearly you are the confused one. I talked about law and the rules, about CWL losing money and being referred to the CMA.

You just spouted whataboutery.

If you break rules and/or laws it doesn't matter if you are elected or appointed, a company or a nation.
You don't have to agree with rules and laws but if you get caught breaking them...

The problem is the Senedd.
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Cardiff Airport on 22:11 - May 16 with 829 viewsraynor94

Cardiff Airport on 21:50 - May 16 by Kilkennyjack

Dreadful last time i went.
Early in the morning but so full that you had to stand uo to drink a coffee.
Poor with young and elderly passengers needing chairs.

Passenger care coming second to profit.


So why isn't Cardiff airport like that? I'll be flying from there next month, there are 4 continental flights that day, Bristol over 20, they need more big players like Jet 2 and easyjet.

Until they do yearly numbers will keep dropping, and we will keep subsidising it, it needs to pay it way

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
Poll: Happy to see Martin go

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Cardiff Airport on 22:21 - May 16 with 822 viewsWhiterockin

Cardiff Airport on 21:47 - May 16 by Kilkennyjack

I think you are confused.

Bristol Airport is a company.
Wales is a nation.

Nobody elected the leader of Bristol Airport.
The people of Wales elected our Senedd.

Of course there are rules and laws.
For instance the airports in Scotland and north of Ireland have airport passenger tax devolved so they can make the airports successful.
This flexibility has not been afforded to Wales - i wonder why ?
Some people might say that looking after English airports has taken priority.

The Senedd is looking out for wales - and thats exactly what we elected them to do.

For the welsh people arguing that wales does not need an airport, then you are part of the problem.
Of course wales needs and deserves an international airport.


Cardiff Airport is a limited company.
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Cardiff Airport on 06:22 - May 17 with 777 viewsGwyn737

Cardiff Airport on 21:54 - May 16 by Boundy

Pretty catastrophic Port Talbot steel works has effectively closed and yet there didn't seem to be much interest in saving those jobs , jobs which to be honest were far more important to the security of the UK than an airport.


They’ve had significant government money over time then £500 million in 2024 for the green conversion.

I agree with you about national steel production and the jobs, mind.
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Cardiff Airport on 09:18 - May 17 with 729 viewsraynor94

Cardiff Airport on 06:22 - May 17 by Gwyn737

They’ve had significant government money over time then £500 million in 2024 for the green conversion.

I agree with you about national steel production and the jobs, mind.


Green conversion is a waste of time, losing the ability to produce virgin steel in Wales is disastrous

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
Poll: Happy to see Martin go

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Cardiff Airport on 17:38 - May 17 with 674 viewsReslovenSwan1

Cardiff Airport on 09:18 - May 17 by raynor94

Green conversion is a waste of time, losing the ability to produce virgin steel in Wales is disastrous


They can make it in Scunthorpe apparently. They are welcome to the fumes and filth.

Port Talbot used cheap top quality coal from Merthyr. and Fochriw. but it has now run out. ( It ran out before the furnaces closed). Quite cheap I would imagine. Just run the rail trucks down the valley.

There is a hell of a mess up there and no money in the kitty to tidy it up. This is due to very poor project management. " Cut and run" is a feature of mining with disastrous consequences.

The luddite thinking is strong. The desire to look back and be like China and India while they want to be like us and live well in a decent environment.

Wise sage since Toshack era
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Cardiff Airport on 17:47 - May 17 with 669 viewsKilkennyjack

Cardiff Airport on 21:54 - May 16 by Boundy

Pretty catastrophic Port Talbot steel works has effectively closed and yet there didn't seem to be much interest in saving those jobs , jobs which to be honest were far more important to the security of the UK than an airport.


Agreed 100% - Port Talbot should have been saved and nationalised
Labour should have acted.

Makes these airport jobs even nore important, dont you think ?

Beware of the Risen People

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Cardiff Airport on 17:52 - May 17 with 659 viewsWhiterockin

Cardiff Airport on 17:47 - May 17 by Kilkennyjack

Agreed 100% - Port Talbot should have been saved and nationalised
Labour should have acted.

Makes these airport jobs even nore important, dont you think ?


Build a new airport at port talbot, straight off the M4, central for more of the Welsh population and if the airport is responsible for 4,000 jobs have it where they are needed.
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Cardiff Airport on 17:53 - May 17 with 652 viewsKilkennyjack

Cardiff Airport on 22:21 - May 16 by Whiterockin

Cardiff Airport is a limited company.


He wrote to Welsh Govt

Beware of the Risen People

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Cardiff Airport on 17:56 - May 17 with 639 viewsKilkennyjack

Cardiff Airport on 17:52 - May 17 by Whiterockin

Build a new airport at port talbot, straight off the M4, central for more of the Welsh population and if the airport is responsible for 4,000 jobs have it where they are needed.


Now you are talking …… the Richard Burton International ….. ✈️🌍

Beware of the Risen People

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Cardiff Airport on 18:00 - May 17 with 636 viewsKilkennyjack

Cardiff Airport on 22:11 - May 16 by raynor94

So why isn't Cardiff airport like that? I'll be flying from there next month, there are 4 continental flights that day, Bristol over 20, they need more big players like Jet 2 and easyjet.

Until they do yearly numbers will keep dropping, and we will keep subsidising it, it needs to pay it way


They are going up not down.

The National Airport of Wales welcomed more than 881,000 customers through its terminal in 2024. That is an increase of 5% on 2023 figures.

Beware of the Risen People

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Cardiff Airport on 18:06 - May 17 with 630 viewsWhiterockin

Cardiff Airport on 17:53 - May 17 by Kilkennyjack

He wrote to Welsh Govt


Who are subsidising a limited company against the rules and distorting competition. The Competition and Markets Authority highlighted considerable issues with the subsidy including unevidenced assumptions. “There have been repeated attempts by members of the Senedd and others to seek further detail on how Welsh Government intends to respond to the concerns raised in the CMA assessment has also been unsuccessful, resulting in a serious lack of transparency around this unprecedented subsidy in UK aviation, which is being funded at great expense by the taxpayer. All everyone wants is transparency which the Senedd again is reluctant to provide. Just what are they hiding, every Welsh person should be asking this question.
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Cardiff Airport on 18:11 - May 17 with 620 viewsWhiterockin

Cardiff Airport on 18:00 - May 17 by Kilkennyjack

They are going up not down.

The National Airport of Wales welcomed more than 881,000 customers through its terminal in 2024. That is an increase of 5% on 2023 figures.


Over the same period Bristol passenger increase was 7%, 2% more than Cardiff so still falling behind.
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Cardiff Airport on 18:11 - May 17 with 614 viewsSullutaCreturned

Cardiff Airport on 18:00 - May 17 by Kilkennyjack

They are going up not down.

The National Airport of Wales welcomed more than 881,000 customers through its terminal in 2024. That is an increase of 5% on 2023 figures.


Yes 881k and that number is nearly 50% fewer people than used the airport in 2019. 6 years later and still not much more than half as many using the airport .

2019: 1,654,920 passengers.
2020: 219,984 passengers.
2021: 123,825 passengers.
2022: 859,805 passengers.
2023: Around 837,000 passengers.
2024: Over 881,000 passengers.

2020 and 2021 were obviously the Covid years.
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Cardiff Airport on 19:26 - May 17 with 594 viewsraynor94

Cardiff Airport on 17:38 - May 17 by ReslovenSwan1

They can make it in Scunthorpe apparently. They are welcome to the fumes and filth.

Port Talbot used cheap top quality coal from Merthyr. and Fochriw. but it has now run out. ( It ran out before the furnaces closed). Quite cheap I would imagine. Just run the rail trucks down the valley.

There is a hell of a mess up there and no money in the kitty to tidy it up. This is due to very poor project management. " Cut and run" is a feature of mining with disastrous consequences.

The luddite thinking is strong. The desire to look back and be like China and India while they want to be like us and live well in a decent environment.


Which won't be for much longer, no wonder we as a Country are a laughing stock to Russia, let's keep importing slab steel from India at a massive cost

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
Poll: Happy to see Martin go

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Cardiff Airport on 06:55 - May 18 with 486 viewsTogg

It's Bristol airport every time for us. Can't remember the last time we flew from Cardiff. Must have been the days of BMI Baby.
It's an easy decision...the product. Generally we fly to Málaga a few times a year. In recent years we have also flown to Murcia and Menorca. Flight availability, times and prices beat Cardiff every time. I hear more Welsh accents there, than any other at Bristol.
So unofficially it could be Wales National airport 😊
We tend make an extra day of it and spend a night in Bristol and get an early flight, if available the next day. Nice and fresh for your first beer 🍺 en la playa.
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Cardiff Airport on 09:50 - May 18 with 424 viewsjohnlangy

Cardiff Airport on 22:11 - May 16 by raynor94

So why isn't Cardiff airport like that? I'll be flying from there next month, there are 4 continental flights that day, Bristol over 20, they need more big players like Jet 2 and easyjet.

Until they do yearly numbers will keep dropping, and we will keep subsidising it, it needs to pay it way


But isn't this a chicken and egg situation.

Travellers say they won't use Cardiff because of the lack of choice. If Jet2 or Easyjet came to Cardiff there'd be more choice so more people would travel from there. But at the moment Jet2 and Easyjet won't come to Cardiff because they don't have the traveller numbers to make it worthwhile.

The only way to fix that would be for the Senedd to provide financial incentives to the airlines while those numbers build up. But then people say we don't want the Senedd spending money on the airport.

So what's the answer ?
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Cardiff Airport on 09:52 - May 18 with 424 viewsraynor94

Cardiff Airport on 18:00 - May 17 by Kilkennyjack

They are going up not down.

The National Airport of Wales welcomed more than 881,000 customers through its terminal in 2024. That is an increase of 5% on 2023 figures.


Pre pandemic 1.6 million passengers were using Cardiff, it's not a mystery where the other 800 thousand have gone

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
Poll: Happy to see Martin go

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Cardiff Airport on 10:19 - May 18 with 396 viewsWhiterockin

Cardiff Airport on 09:50 - May 18 by johnlangy

But isn't this a chicken and egg situation.

Travellers say they won't use Cardiff because of the lack of choice. If Jet2 or Easyjet came to Cardiff there'd be more choice so more people would travel from there. But at the moment Jet2 and Easyjet won't come to Cardiff because they don't have the traveller numbers to make it worthwhile.

The only way to fix that would be for the Senedd to provide financial incentives to the airlines while those numbers build up. But then people say we don't want the Senedd spending money on the airport.

So what's the answer ?


I would say the biggest issues for Jet2 and Easyjet are the high charges at Cardiff and the lack of slots at sensible times. These companies know their business and see Cardiff would not be profitable for them. Possibly they will look at it when Bristol reach capacity, but Bristol is still growing numbers. Cardiff Airport does have a market from Cardiff to the West and up to the valleys. But east of Newport it makes more sense to go from Bristol, reducing Cardiff catchment area for the potential operators. The tunnels are a major factor. Carriers know their market that's why the are slow to pick up on Cardiff.
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Cardiff Airport on 13:24 - May 18 with 353 viewsSullutaCreturned

Cardiff Airport on 09:50 - May 18 by johnlangy

But isn't this a chicken and egg situation.

Travellers say they won't use Cardiff because of the lack of choice. If Jet2 or Easyjet came to Cardiff there'd be more choice so more people would travel from there. But at the moment Jet2 and Easyjet won't come to Cardiff because they don't have the traveller numbers to make it worthwhile.

The only way to fix that would be for the Senedd to provide financial incentives to the airlines while those numbers build up. But then people say we don't want the Senedd spending money on the airport.

So what's the answer ?


Thing is, John, companies were at Cardiff and left because of the lack of business.

The Senedd is already subsidisng the airport and with many of us saying that's not viable and not fair on tax payers, how will we feel if even more public money is thrown at a limited company?
How big will the incentives need to be and what if they don't work? Do we cut our losses or throw even more money at it?

All subsidies do is enable those at the top to take massive wages and bonuses even when they do a rubbish job. Maybe this is the problem with capitalism, when subsidies plug the gaps ( for a short time anyway) the big bosses load up their bank balance and don't look after the business and we end up in exactly the scenario we have with the water companies.

Subsidies should be outlawed entirely, maybe the working class would have a chance then.
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Cardiff Airport on 14:47 - May 18 with 317 viewsBoundy

Cardiff Airport on 09:50 - May 18 by johnlangy

But isn't this a chicken and egg situation.

Travellers say they won't use Cardiff because of the lack of choice. If Jet2 or Easyjet came to Cardiff there'd be more choice so more people would travel from there. But at the moment Jet2 and Easyjet won't come to Cardiff because they don't have the traveller numbers to make it worthwhile.

The only way to fix that would be for the Senedd to provide financial incentives to the airlines while those numbers build up. But then people say we don't want the Senedd spending money on the airport.

So what's the answer ?


Well the answer is not to keep wasting taxpayers money on it ,most posters have said as I have they'd use cardiff if the flights suited them if not they're happy to use Bristol , I know people who use Birmingham without complaint because it suits their needs.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Cardiff Airport on 15:31 - May 18 with 291 viewsbuilthjack

Cardiff Airport on 13:24 - May 18 by SullutaCreturned

Thing is, John, companies were at Cardiff and left because of the lack of business.

The Senedd is already subsidisng the airport and with many of us saying that's not viable and not fair on tax payers, how will we feel if even more public money is thrown at a limited company?
How big will the incentives need to be and what if they don't work? Do we cut our losses or throw even more money at it?

All subsidies do is enable those at the top to take massive wages and bonuses even when they do a rubbish job. Maybe this is the problem with capitalism, when subsidies plug the gaps ( for a short time anyway) the big bosses load up their bank balance and don't look after the business and we end up in exactly the scenario we have with the water companies.

Subsidies should be outlawed entirely, maybe the working class would have a chance then.


Welsh farmers received over £247million in subsidies last financial year, plus obtained money through many other schemes.
There is money going out everywhere it would seem.

Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.

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Cardiff Airport on 15:38 - May 18 with 280 viewsWhiterockin

Cardiff Airport on 15:31 - May 18 by builthjack

Welsh farmers received over £247million in subsidies last financial year, plus obtained money through many other schemes.
There is money going out everywhere it would seem.


I probably eat more Welsh produce than fly from Cardiff.
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Cardiff Airport on 16:29 - May 18 with 226 viewsEagleEye

I quite like flying from Cardiff airport. Alright the choice of destinations is limited. It is much easier to get to from Swansea. I’m happy to pay a little more than leave the house at 2am to get in the scrum at Bristol airport for the 6 O’ clock rush. Car parking is easier, check in & time to get through security is also light years ahead of the melee that you get at Bristol.

20% of passengers passing through Bristol are from South Wales - definitely need a Jet2 or EasyJet to locate in Cardiff, though it’s difficult to see it happening any time soon when so many go to Bristol anyway. They would just be taking away custom that they already have
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Cardiff Airport on 18:45 - May 18 with 150 viewsTogg

Cardiff Airport on 15:31 - May 18 by builthjack

Welsh farmers received over £247million in subsidies last financial year, plus obtained money through many other schemes.
There is money going out everywhere it would seem.


Always try to buy fresh produce from Swansea market when ever I can . I live in North Gower surrounded by farms on all sides. Considering you live in Builth you seem to have a very negative attitude to the people who farm the land. Anyway hope you enjoyed the Builth show this weekend
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