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and probably about kits |
Two games running, two black shorts clashes.
Didn’t say a word. Losing it. |  |
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 21:23 - Apr 21 by TalkingSutty |
I'm sure he has been affected by the death of Joe, i think you could sense that today around the ground. Today's performance wasn't down to that though, we yet again lacked the quality and nouse to break down a poor team intent on defending. Hartlepool are skint and might go bust unless they get a investor over the summer and they've been very average all season. They have no 'clout'. He needs to concentrate on how good his own squad is and look at the league table, it will tell him that we are better than Hartlepool who will have nothing to play for. We need to find a ruthless streak and quickly. |
We are better than Fylde who had nothing to play for……what makes you think it will be any different with Hartlepool? |  | | |
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 20:46 - Apr 21 by 442Dale |
Your earlier post says “… today's performance tells me that the manager and the players don't have the desire or the winning mentality”
I drew attention to this as unfair by using an example where we did show desire and a winning mentality. A game that took place three days ago. At no stage was there any excuse given for what we’ve seen today.
There’s no deflection, it’s pointing our inconsistencies as a team - which is perfectly illustrated by your post on Friday:
“ We went toe to toe with a decent Altrincham team in their own back yard and beat them with energy, desire and a fighting spirit. We played a game of football how it should be played and it was enjoyable to watch.”
I’ve yet to read any excuses for today, but I’ve only seen a few bits on Twitter and on here. There certainly doesn’t appear to be any contentment, well there wasn’t in the Sandy today. Frustration would be the word that is more appropriate. And that has been reflected on here. |
I'm glad you quoted my post from the Altrincham game because it's not something we've seen enough of, Friday was worthy of praise. Some of the performances especially at home have been unwatchable and most of them have been against the poorest teams in the league. If today's performance contained fight, desire, energy then i didn't see it and there's no excuse when there's so much riding on these games. We are at the business end of the season, i dont think fans are being unfair when they are expecting to see the team come out all guns firing against a team already relegated. |  | | |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 21:34 - Apr 21 with 2733 views | 49thseason |
Starting with the disinterested Mitchell was a big mistake, Rodney started to wander around the pitch as though sulking after scoring 2 at Alty and not being picked to play centre forward. Henderson ran with his usual intelligence and timing , but no one could find a pass to him, frustrating to watch, crass from the managerial stance.
This is a wasted season for the lack of a competent target man and a winger with a trick or two to feed him. Many have been called but none have been reliably successful. The manager will claim that the Bird injury has cost us points but his arrival was months too late and he recognised the need too late, he should try listening to the regular supporters who saw the problem from the first game of the season, indeed in pre-season. Its a simple equation, the lower the league, the more the ball is pumped into the air, consequently the more you need a forward with aerial ability....
Today was an opportunity, with a bigger than perhaps expected home following, but we fell for the old, "10 men behind the ball" routine, exactly the circumstances in which a tricky winger might have opened the door, or a decent target man might have converted from one of the shed-load of corners. Alas, they are not in the managers toolbox and he persevered too long with overhit crosses aimed at a target man who is no such thing, having no options to call on.
I thought Ferguson had a decent game at the centre of a competent defensive display and Edwards impressed with another neat and tidy game , but crowds want to see goals and we failed miserably on that front with Gilmour forcing the only real save of note from their keeper...the system simply doesn't work as an entertainment and its the only one we have.. as I said, frustrating...another game where a single goal would have had huge benefits.... |  | | |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 21:35 - Apr 21 with 2730 views | pioneer |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 21:33 - Apr 21 by TalkingSutty |
I'm glad you quoted my post from the Altrincham game because it's not something we've seen enough of, Friday was worthy of praise. Some of the performances especially at home have been unwatchable and most of them have been against the poorest teams in the league. If today's performance contained fight, desire, energy then i didn't see it and there's no excuse when there's so much riding on these games. We are at the business end of the season, i dont think fans are being unfair when they are expecting to see the team come out all guns firing against a team already relegated. |
Agree… won 2 games from 8 versus the bottom 4 teams. | | | |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 21:37 - Apr 21 with 2719 views | Clivert |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 21:30 - Apr 21 by pioneer |
We are better than Fylde who had nothing to play for……what makes you think it will be any different with Hartlepool? |
We are like a box of frogs - you can't predict what type of performance that we are going to put in and that is what is so frustrating when you consider the calibre of some of the teams that we have dropped pointed against.
It really is going to be a wasted opportunity this season and I'll purley put it down to McNulty. [Post edited 21 Apr 21:43]
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 21:39 - Apr 21 with 2705 views | TalkingSutty |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 21:30 - Apr 21 by pioneer |
We are better than Fylde who had nothing to play for……what makes you think it will be any different with Hartlepool? |
I didn't suggest it would be any different against Hartlepool. Jim's already set the scene for next Saturday by the sounds of it. Today was a game he didn't want to lose, i'll leave it at that. | | | |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 21:43 - Apr 21 with 2660 views | 442Dale |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 21:33 - Apr 21 by TalkingSutty |
I'm glad you quoted my post from the Altrincham game because it's not something we've seen enough of, Friday was worthy of praise. Some of the performances especially at home have been unwatchable and most of them have been against the poorest teams in the league. If today's performance contained fight, desire, energy then i didn't see it and there's no excuse when there's so much riding on these games. We are at the business end of the season, i dont think fans are being unfair when they are expecting to see the team come out all guns firing against a team already relegated. |
We do show those qualities then so it’s unfair to say the manager and the players don’t have the desire or a winning mentality.
Inconsistency, squad construction and tactical approach have been our issues all season long. The manager takes responsibility for these areas.
Today was lacklustre throughout, yet to see anyone say much different. [Post edited 21 Apr 22:28]
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 21:50 - Apr 21 with 2618 views | 442Dale |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 21:34 - Apr 21 by 49thseason |
Starting with the disinterested Mitchell was a big mistake, Rodney started to wander around the pitch as though sulking after scoring 2 at Alty and not being picked to play centre forward. Henderson ran with his usual intelligence and timing , but no one could find a pass to him, frustrating to watch, crass from the managerial stance.
This is a wasted season for the lack of a competent target man and a winger with a trick or two to feed him. Many have been called but none have been reliably successful. The manager will claim that the Bird injury has cost us points but his arrival was months too late and he recognised the need too late, he should try listening to the regular supporters who saw the problem from the first game of the season, indeed in pre-season. Its a simple equation, the lower the league, the more the ball is pumped into the air, consequently the more you need a forward with aerial ability....
Today was an opportunity, with a bigger than perhaps expected home following, but we fell for the old, "10 men behind the ball" routine, exactly the circumstances in which a tricky winger might have opened the door, or a decent target man might have converted from one of the shed-load of corners. Alas, they are not in the managers toolbox and he persevered too long with overhit crosses aimed at a target man who is no such thing, having no options to call on.
I thought Ferguson had a decent game at the centre of a competent defensive display and Edwards impressed with another neat and tidy game , but crowds want to see goals and we failed miserably on that front with Gilmour forcing the only real save of note from their keeper...the system simply doesn't work as an entertainment and its the only one we have.. as I said, frustrating...another game where a single goal would have had huge benefits.... |
Rodney hasn’t played centre forward at all recently. It’s either been Bird, Mitchell or Henderson. | |
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 22:11 - Apr 21 with 2504 views | The_Referee |
I don't think we are a million miles off as a squad, and I don't think the in the main tactics are the issue. Fylde made it extremely difficult break down today. Unless you get the early goal it was always going to be a bore fest. Today we had to be patient. But maybe we were too patient and our final ball was lacking when we did create the opening.
As a squad we mis guile, leadership and quality in the final third. There is nobody in the squad who can take the game by the scruff of the neck in attacking areas and make it happen on days like today. If we can rectify this and find a consistent quality goal scorer then I would expect us to be up there.
Barnet and York apart. I don't think thee is much between the rest of the top half of the teams in this league. On our day we are capable of beating all of them. But without that leader up front we will toil against those who come for the point | | | |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 23:06 - Apr 21 with 2362 views | nordenblue |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 21:04 - Apr 21 by dingdangblue |
Jim's postmatch is barely about today. Mentions more about Altrincham and obviously him being massively affected by Joe Thompson's death. He certainly wasn't too bothered about a 0-0 bore draw against a relegated part time team. He does mention Hartlepool's 'clout' ? In preparation for next Saturday. |
It's funny how he failed to mention our "clout" after being turned over numerous times by part time outfits this year, dont seem to remember him mentioning his own teams "clout" either when Spennymoor strolled through to a Wembley final without even getting out of second gear. | | | |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 23:12 - Apr 21 with 2353 views | D_Alien |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 22:11 - Apr 21 by The_Referee |
I don't think we are a million miles off as a squad, and I don't think the in the main tactics are the issue. Fylde made it extremely difficult break down today. Unless you get the early goal it was always going to be a bore fest. Today we had to be patient. But maybe we were too patient and our final ball was lacking when we did create the opening.
As a squad we mis guile, leadership and quality in the final third. There is nobody in the squad who can take the game by the scruff of the neck in attacking areas and make it happen on days like today. If we can rectify this and find a consistent quality goal scorer then I would expect us to be up there.
Barnet and York apart. I don't think thee is much between the rest of the top half of the teams in this league. On our day we are capable of beating all of them. But without that leader up front we will toil against those who come for the point |
Aaron Wilbraham doing the half time draw was a reminder of what we're missing
Considering JM was a team-mate, you'd have thought he'd recognise from the outset of his coaching career what was needed but it's as if he has some kind of psychological block that over-rides the bleeding obvious, or at least until it's too late |  |
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 07:16 - Apr 22 with 2048 views | Duckegg |
What i find frustrating is that Dale could not raise their game for the chance to get to Wembley and not even do it for the memory of Joe Thompson.... |  | | |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 07:20 - Apr 22 with 2044 views | TalkingSutty |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 23:12 - Apr 21 by D_Alien |
Aaron Wilbraham doing the half time draw was a reminder of what we're missing
Considering JM was a team-mate, you'd have thought he'd recognise from the outset of his coaching career what was needed but it's as if he has some kind of psychological block that over-rides the bleeding obvious, or at least until it's too late |
Big players, big personalities, the sort who challenge the managers and coaches and make their voices heard both on the training ground and in the dressing room. The sort who ruffle feathers and have a win at all costs mentality. Experienced footballers who have been there and done it, i can't imagine McNulty wanting to be challenged by anybody, especially his own players.
I was sitting near Wilbraham at yesterday's game, he looked bored to death like the rest of us. McNulty doesnt sign those type of players. We need two or three of them to take the next step and a manager who has the personality to handle them, thats exactly what Keith Hill did. He constantly challenged those in the Boardroom and club staff, a winning mentality was required from everybody. We don't have that, i never hear McNulty speak about winning games, his focus on the upcoming Hartlepool game is how much 'clout' they have. That sums him up. This is Hartlepool he's talking about, a mid table team with nothing to play for who are in financial turmoil. If he can kill expectation, he will.
God help us if we do find ourselves in the play offs, our inferiority complex will be off the scale if you listen to McNulty. Simon and Cameron will be aware of the budget they've afforded to McNulty this season and the superior financial 'clout' he's had to work with compared to many clubs in this league. He's won two out of the eight games played against the bottom four clubs and blown a Wembley appearance by losing to a lower league part time club on our own pitch. He then has the audacity to keep mentioning financial clout as a excuse to not win football matches, he deserves to be called out for it. He'll get us into the play offs but we'll flop over the line rather than enter them all guns blazing with the sole intention of claiming the 4th spot and sending out a message of intent. The Play Offs are about entering them with momentum.
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 07:21 - Apr 22 with 2043 views | Sandyman |
Countless hours this season have been wasted with tippy tappy tripe. The ensuing loss of valuable points and boredom on the terraces are of no use.
This article indicates it doesn't have to be that way...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c20xd10z6gvo |  | | |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 07:48 - Apr 22 with 1950 views | frenzied |
Just wonder what your thoughts are on a team like Burnley who have got promoted but by their own admission have bored there way there..a means to an end?... | | | |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 08:02 - Apr 22 with 1904 views | meeee |
I watched Fylde vs York a few weeks ago where Fylde parked 11 men behind the ball but they couldn't live with York's interplay and movement off the ball. York carved them open and won 3-1 but sadly I saw none of that yesterday |  | | |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 08:05 - Apr 22 with 1885 views | TalkingSutty |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 07:48 - Apr 22 by frenzied |
Just wonder what your thoughts are on a team like Burnley who have got promoted but by their own admission have bored there way there..a means to an end?... |
They had financial clout and the best team in the league, the parachute payment makes it an uneven playing field in the Championship. They've hardly lost a game all season and not only top the possession stats in most of their games, they also score and win them. | | | |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 08:27 - Apr 22 with 1805 views | dingdangblue |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 07:48 - Apr 22 by frenzied |
Just wonder what your thoughts are on a team like Burnley who have got promoted but by their own admission have bored there way there..a means to an end?... |
I guess when you are promoted to the Premier League with 2 games to spare you could put up with it. |  |
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 09:31 - Apr 22 with 1648 views | D_Alien |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 07:20 - Apr 22 by TalkingSutty |
Big players, big personalities, the sort who challenge the managers and coaches and make their voices heard both on the training ground and in the dressing room. The sort who ruffle feathers and have a win at all costs mentality. Experienced footballers who have been there and done it, i can't imagine McNulty wanting to be challenged by anybody, especially his own players.
I was sitting near Wilbraham at yesterday's game, he looked bored to death like the rest of us. McNulty doesnt sign those type of players. We need two or three of them to take the next step and a manager who has the personality to handle them, thats exactly what Keith Hill did. He constantly challenged those in the Boardroom and club staff, a winning mentality was required from everybody. We don't have that, i never hear McNulty speak about winning games, his focus on the upcoming Hartlepool game is how much 'clout' they have. That sums him up. This is Hartlepool he's talking about, a mid table team with nothing to play for who are in financial turmoil. If he can kill expectation, he will.
God help us if we do find ourselves in the play offs, our inferiority complex will be off the scale if you listen to McNulty. Simon and Cameron will be aware of the budget they've afforded to McNulty this season and the superior financial 'clout' he's had to work with compared to many clubs in this league. He's won two out of the eight games played against the bottom four clubs and blown a Wembley appearance by losing to a lower league part time club on our own pitch. He then has the audacity to keep mentioning financial clout as a excuse to not win football matches, he deserves to be called out for it. He'll get us into the play offs but we'll flop over the line rather than enter them all guns blazing with the sole intention of claiming the 4th spot and sending out a message of intent. The Play Offs are about entering them with momentum.
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I did wonder what Wilbraham made of it
He's cut his coaching teeth already (Shrewsbury). Some other intent - than the half time draw - for being there would just be wishful thinking... | |
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 09:42 - Apr 22 with 1620 views | TalkingSutty |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 09:31 - Apr 22 by D_Alien |
I did wonder what Wilbraham made of it
He's cut his coaching teeth already (Shrewsbury). Some other intent - than the half time draw - for being there would just be wishful thinking... |
He did a Q&A in the bar upstairs before the game as part of the hospitality package. The hospitality package is worth mentioning, it was excellent again yesterday and good value for money. The company who provide the food are exceptional, the service from the young girls was spot on and the carvery is top quality. I think hospitality was sold out yesterday so well done to Andy Duff and his team. [Post edited 22 Apr 9:43]
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 10:17 - Apr 22 with 1509 views | samueloneils |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 21:34 - Apr 21 by 49thseason |
Starting with the disinterested Mitchell was a big mistake, Rodney started to wander around the pitch as though sulking after scoring 2 at Alty and not being picked to play centre forward. Henderson ran with his usual intelligence and timing , but no one could find a pass to him, frustrating to watch, crass from the managerial stance.
This is a wasted season for the lack of a competent target man and a winger with a trick or two to feed him. Many have been called but none have been reliably successful. The manager will claim that the Bird injury has cost us points but his arrival was months too late and he recognised the need too late, he should try listening to the regular supporters who saw the problem from the first game of the season, indeed in pre-season. Its a simple equation, the lower the league, the more the ball is pumped into the air, consequently the more you need a forward with aerial ability....
Today was an opportunity, with a bigger than perhaps expected home following, but we fell for the old, "10 men behind the ball" routine, exactly the circumstances in which a tricky winger might have opened the door, or a decent target man might have converted from one of the shed-load of corners. Alas, they are not in the managers toolbox and he persevered too long with overhit crosses aimed at a target man who is no such thing, having no options to call on.
I thought Ferguson had a decent game at the centre of a competent defensive display and Edwards impressed with another neat and tidy game , but crowds want to see goals and we failed miserably on that front with Gilmour forcing the only real save of note from their keeper...the system simply doesn't work as an entertainment and its the only one we have.. as I said, frustrating...another game where a single goal would have had huge benefits.... |
I remember burbling on about an unbalanced squad during pre-season, with only 2 strikers and one with injury doubts. It wasnt till November that Dennis came on board and he only started 1 game. When Bird arrived the season was almost over. But what a difference he made, plus the introduction of Hendo after 30+ sub appearances.
Jim in my opinion is a very timid manager, worse than cautious.
Attacking football is foreign to him. Having got it right against Eastleigh, and survived a tight battle at Alti, he now reverts to safety first in line-up (Mitchell back) and tactics(patience). I feel pretty sure they would have won yesterday if Hendo started- he moves defenders around with his runs.
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 10:57 - Apr 22 with 1397 views | Nigeriamark |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 08:02 - Apr 22 by meeee |
I watched Fylde vs York a few weeks ago where Fylde parked 11 men behind the ball but they couldn't live with York's interplay and movement off the ball. York carved them open and won 3-1 but sadly I saw none of that yesterday |
Fylde and Ebbsfleet have conceded 172 goals between them this year and yet we haven't scored against either of them at home, never mind win. Doesn't matter if they park the bus or not, they are clearly not good enough against any team (but us ) to keep goals out. Yet we can go to Alty a few days earlier and put in a good performance and have slammed in a good number of goals against other teams.
IWould love to see us somehow go up via the playoffs, but we are so inconsistent that I would fear for this team next year in league 2. [Post edited 22 Apr 10:59]
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 11:22 - Apr 22 with 1347 views | Dale_4_Life |
Disappointing again yesterday just when we get a few missing fans back from the previous home game.
Less said about the first half the better.
On a plus note a win at home on Saturday cements a play off spot and then we are into a straight 3 game shootout for promotion. | | | |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 11:57 - Apr 22 with 1276 views | TVOS1907 |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 11:22 - Apr 22 by Dale_4_Life |
Disappointing again yesterday just when we get a few missing fans back from the previous home game.
Less said about the first half the better.
On a plus note a win at home on Saturday cements a play off spot and then we are into a straight 3 game shootout for promotion. |
Although a win would be better, a draw will be enough with Gateshead playing Southend on the final day and also taking our vastly superior goal difference into account. |  |
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