| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 18:02 - Apr 21 with 2636 views | onedalefan |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 17:48 - Apr 21 by dawlishdale |
Today was a microcosm of our season. The players are sent out with fear and told to be cautious at all times. The result is a boring game where the opposition gain a degree of confidence against our all too predictable play. It won't ever increase the fanbase.
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Adu Poku started on the right and showed he had the beating of the full back. Thats probably why he was switched, Jim didn't like him attacking too much! |  | |  |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 18:02 - Apr 21 with 2634 views | D_Alien |
Again, very little by way of entertainment for an increased crowd
Bringing Allarakhia and Ayinde on then playing them too close to each other was a bit of nonsense really. Gilmour's shot apart, 96 minutes of lethargy
At least Beckwith seems back to his best. Deserved MoM although Edwards would've run him close but seemed to run out of steam before being rested |  |
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 18:06 - Apr 21 with 2585 views | 442Dale |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 18:02 - Apr 21 by D_Alien |
Again, very little by way of entertainment for an increased crowd
Bringing Allarakhia and Ayinde on then playing them too close to each other was a bit of nonsense really. Gilmour's shot apart, 96 minutes of lethargy
At least Beckwith seems back to his best. Deserved MoM although Edwards would've run him close but seemed to run out of steam before being rested |
That rigid tactical choice with the formation will never be understandable. It’s like for like every time and the other team never have to think. They continue to defend, just against a different player.
Ayinde, despite glimpses, has done nothing for me all season long. With so many of his ilk in that position who don’t offer a significant difference apart from fresh legs. |  |
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 18:27 - Apr 21 with 2445 views | Trev |
I actually thought it was a little better, less boring and more attacking then a lot of our other dropped points this season. Just missing a decent striker. |  | | |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 18:30 - Apr 21 with 2423 views | Daley_Lama |
Today was something that we have seen oft this season against teams at the bottom, who stick 10 men behind the ball constantly, defend stoically and try for the odd chance on the break. See D&R for example.
We have struggled to break such teams down. Aside from Beckwith occasionally- shots from distance are poor and attempts to play through falter.
How to solve this problem is for next season however, if we don’t go up of course. If we make the playoffs we are unlikely to meet a team adopting such tactics.
No injuries, another point towards the playoff goal, getting there. |  |
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 18:40 - Apr 21 with 2358 views | D_Alien |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 18:30 - Apr 21 by Daley_Lama |
Today was something that we have seen oft this season against teams at the bottom, who stick 10 men behind the ball constantly, defend stoically and try for the odd chance on the break. See D&R for example.
We have struggled to break such teams down. Aside from Beckwith occasionally- shots from distance are poor and attempts to play through falter.
How to solve this problem is for next season however, if we don’t go up of course. If we make the playoffs we are unlikely to meet a team adopting such tactics.
No injuries, another point towards the playoff goal, getting there. |
You'll also have been disappointed with the Sandy launching into "Going down" midway through the second half. I guess they felt the need for some kind of oneupmanship since the team were looking unlikely to provide it, but the response from the Fylde faithful of "Staying down" put them in their place | |
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 18:49 - Apr 21 with 2289 views | Daley_Lama |
I was a bit disappointed to hear it, but it was (i think) directed at their players rather than fans following a couple of on field moments that riled fans somewhat. | |
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 19:12 - Apr 21 with 2137 views | TalkingSutty |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 17:38 - Apr 21 by Clivert |
So poor that again today against a team that are already relegated. |
I had a view from the main stand today for a change, a performance that was devoid of passion, the complete opposite of what you would expect when you look what was at stake for the home team. I observed the dug outs for the last half hour and that confirmed what i thought, the manager seemed happy to just not lose the game and he had no idea how to change the direction that the game was meandering towards. A manager and his assistant who for the majority of the second half just stood motionless with their hands in their pockets, terrible body language when youre supposed to be working. It was something that others around me remarked upon and in contrast to the Fylde manager who was constantly trying to direct his players.
As a club we're too nice, today's performance was a reflection of that and the fact that some think it's acceptable is why nobody at the club is challenged, especially the manager. Reaching the play offs is enough for some and I question if there's enough hunger in and around the club to put in a serious challenge, today's performance tells me that the manager and the players don't have the desire or the winning mentality...too nice. The team talk today shouldn't have been about clinching a play off spot, it should have been about winning and clinching 4th spot. Probably a extra 800 fans in the ground today and yet again they have to endure that, McNulty will have a excuse though. [Post edited 21 Apr 19:19]
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 19:19 - Apr 21 with 2104 views | Sandyman |
Frustrating, samey and no tactical change. Yet again. Another let down in front of a better home attendance against a team who have lost 26 times in the league this season. The play-offs are still achievable, we have the players, but will this lot wilt under the limelight guided by this manager? Yet again? |  | | |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 19:26 - Apr 21 with 2047 views | 442Dale |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 19:12 - Apr 21 by TalkingSutty |
I had a view from the main stand today for a change, a performance that was devoid of passion, the complete opposite of what you would expect when you look what was at stake for the home team. I observed the dug outs for the last half hour and that confirmed what i thought, the manager seemed happy to just not lose the game and he had no idea how to change the direction that the game was meandering towards. A manager and his assistant who for the majority of the second half just stood motionless with their hands in their pockets, terrible body language when youre supposed to be working. It was something that others around me remarked upon and in contrast to the Fylde manager who was constantly trying to direct his players.
As a club we're too nice, today's performance was a reflection of that and the fact that some think it's acceptable is why nobody at the club is challenged, especially the manager. Reaching the play offs is enough for some and I question if there's enough hunger in and around the club to put in a serious challenge, today's performance tells me that the manager and the players don't have the desire or the winning mentality...too nice. The team talk today shouldn't have been about clinching a play off spot, it should have been about winning and clinching 4th spot. Probably a extra 800 fans in the ground today and yet again they have to endure that, McNulty will have a excuse though. [Post edited 21 Apr 19:19]
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Who thinks today’s performance is acceptable?
There’s no excusing how we played and the lack of tactical changes to try and lift the performance, but three days after a game where we saw desire and a winning mentality in abundance, it’s unfair to question those qualities as not existing.
Whether the squad has been built with enough players who can lift the levels in those areas is another matter. | |
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 19:31 - Apr 21 with 2023 views | EllDale |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 18:40 - Apr 21 by D_Alien |
You'll also have been disappointed with the Sandy launching into "Going down" midway through the second half. I guess they felt the need for some kind of oneupmanship since the team were looking unlikely to provide it, but the response from the Fylde faithful of "Staying down" put them in their place |
I think that the chant was aimed at their number 16 - we had a series of corners and he was manhandling Beckwith at all of them. | | | |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 19:34 - Apr 21 with 1988 views | D_Alien |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 19:31 - Apr 21 by EllDale |
I think that the chant was aimed at their number 16 - we had a series of corners and he was manhandling Beckwith at all of them. |
But as per my vantage point in the Pearl St, how many in the ground would've just heard that and groaned at the lack of class? Manhandling at corners happens all the time | |
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 19:54 - Apr 21 with 1890 views | NorthernDale |
Today as been typical of to many games under McNulty, no passion, no urgency, over passing off the ball and trying to walk the ball into the area, why can't they just get the ball into the box, instead they pass it sideways and allow the opposition to get organised. This is down to Jim and his belief in that style of football, to the extent he cannot change the teams style of football. It makes me wonder, that he thinks it is entertaining to watch, when it is about as exciting as watching paint dry. | | | |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 19:58 - Apr 21 with 1859 views | EllDale |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 19:34 - Apr 21 by D_Alien |
But as per my vantage point in the Pearl St, how many in the ground would've just heard that and groaned at the lack of class? Manhandling at corners happens all the time |
I agree that it was totally crass. | | | |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 20:02 - Apr 21 with 1838 views | rich_dale |
Early balls into the box needed, not easy though when we generally have right footed players on the left and vice versa. Lost count of how many times we cut back inside and the attack fizzled out. Gilmour's shot was the only time we looked like scoring from open play. | | | |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 20:05 - Apr 21 with 1827 views | TalkingSutty |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 19:26 - Apr 21 by 442Dale |
Who thinks today’s performance is acceptable?
There’s no excusing how we played and the lack of tactical changes to try and lift the performance, but three days after a game where we saw desire and a winning mentality in abundance, it’s unfair to question those qualities as not existing.
Whether the squad has been built with enough players who can lift the levels in those areas is another matter. |
Some supporters on other social media sites do. Today is a performance that we've seen plenty of times this season and you can try to deflect it by citing superior performances but we're discussing what we've seen today in another important game with a increased attendance. The amount of points we've dropped against poor opposition isn't good enough, especially at home. McNultys had all last season and this to formulate a plan or change of system to combat teams who sit in defensively and let's not pretend that this is a new conundrum for managers, poor teams have always done this. The whole atmosphere around the club and the ground is one of contentment, we've got next year, or the year after. I don't think it is unfair to question if there's is a winning mentality, the body language today didn't suggest that. The first half non performance against Spennymoor a couple of weeks ago with such a massive prize at stake...did you see desire, passion, winning mentality? I saw the opposite in one of the biggest games in the clubs history and I'm very worried that we'll see it again in the play offs. Fylde were rubbish today, we can't keep making excuses for not putting these teams to bed. [Post edited 21 Apr 20:10]
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 20:12 - Apr 21 with 1775 views | EllDale |
It wasn’t the riproaring stuff that perhaps we expected but Dale quite simply can’t unlock defences when teams come to “park the bus”.
Fine margins yet again though.
If Rodney’s glancing header had gone in in the first half, if their keeper hadn’t produced a marvellous save to deny Gilmour, if Mitchell hadn’t hit the keeper twice…..
I wonder if BJ should have started with Henderson and Rodney upfront, the formula that’s worked in a couple of the recent 4-0 victories?
To be fair to Mitchell he did try but the effort isn’t enough.
When he was scoring at will against AFC Fylde earlier in the season he was running onto through balls but that service wasn’t there today. And their centre half needed to be put under pressure after an early booking for handball.
And there doesn’t seem to be much point in TAR playing on the left.
Plus points? Beckwith looked to be back to his early season sharpness. Barlow looked sharp. And there was another clean sheet to maintain a healthy goal difference?
Overall though I came away feeling slightly disappointed. | | | |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 20:16 - Apr 21 with 1747 views | Clivert |
The league in general is rubbish. If you were to give me £50 to bet on any team in the playoffs to go up then we would be the last team that I would choose to put that £50 on, Jim McNulty is a terrible football manager. |  | | |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 20:46 - Apr 21 with 1631 views | 442Dale |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 20:05 - Apr 21 by TalkingSutty |
Some supporters on other social media sites do. Today is a performance that we've seen plenty of times this season and you can try to deflect it by citing superior performances but we're discussing what we've seen today in another important game with a increased attendance. The amount of points we've dropped against poor opposition isn't good enough, especially at home. McNultys had all last season and this to formulate a plan or change of system to combat teams who sit in defensively and let's not pretend that this is a new conundrum for managers, poor teams have always done this. The whole atmosphere around the club and the ground is one of contentment, we've got next year, or the year after. I don't think it is unfair to question if there's is a winning mentality, the body language today didn't suggest that. The first half non performance against Spennymoor a couple of weeks ago with such a massive prize at stake...did you see desire, passion, winning mentality? I saw the opposite in one of the biggest games in the clubs history and I'm very worried that we'll see it again in the play offs. Fylde were rubbish today, we can't keep making excuses for not putting these teams to bed. [Post edited 21 Apr 20:10]
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Your earlier post says “… today's performance tells me that the manager and the players don't have the desire or the winning mentality”
I drew attention to this as unfair by using an example where we did show desire and a winning mentality. A game that took place three days ago. At no stage was there any excuse given for what we’ve seen today.
There’s no deflection, it’s pointing our inconsistencies as a team - which is perfectly illustrated by your post on Friday:
“ We went toe to toe with a decent Altrincham team in their own back yard and beat them with energy, desire and a fighting spirit. We played a game of football how it should be played and it was enjoyable to watch.”
I’ve yet to read any excuses for today, but I’ve only seen a few bits on Twitter and on here. There certainly doesn’t appear to be any contentment, well there wasn’t in the Sandy today. Frustration would be the word that is more appropriate. And that has been reflected on here. | |
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 20:50 - Apr 21 with 1618 views | jonahwhereru |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 20:16 - Apr 21 by Clivert |
The league in general is rubbish. If you were to give me £50 to bet on any team in the playoffs to go up then we would be the last team that I would choose to put that £50 on, Jim McNulty is a terrible football manager. |
I’d pick Halifax over ourselves. You need to score to progress in the playoffs. We have a much better record than them. Also we have done the double over Gateshead.
Just on his post match interview I hadn’t realised JM had played with JT at both Bury and Tranmere as well as ourselves. That’s a lot of bonding. | | | |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 21:04 - Apr 21 with 1546 views | dingdangblue |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 20:05 - Apr 21 by TalkingSutty |
Some supporters on other social media sites do. Today is a performance that we've seen plenty of times this season and you can try to deflect it by citing superior performances but we're discussing what we've seen today in another important game with a increased attendance. The amount of points we've dropped against poor opposition isn't good enough, especially at home. McNultys had all last season and this to formulate a plan or change of system to combat teams who sit in defensively and let's not pretend that this is a new conundrum for managers, poor teams have always done this. The whole atmosphere around the club and the ground is one of contentment, we've got next year, or the year after. I don't think it is unfair to question if there's is a winning mentality, the body language today didn't suggest that. The first half non performance against Spennymoor a couple of weeks ago with such a massive prize at stake...did you see desire, passion, winning mentality? I saw the opposite in one of the biggest games in the clubs history and I'm very worried that we'll see it again in the play offs. Fylde were rubbish today, we can't keep making excuses for not putting these teams to bed. [Post edited 21 Apr 20:10]
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Jim's postmatch is barely about today. Mentions more about Altrincham and obviously him being massively affected by Joe Thompson's death. He certainly wasn't too bothered about a 0-0 bore draw against a relegated part time team. He does mention Hartlepool's 'clout' ? In preparation for next Saturday. |  |
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 21:22 - Apr 21 with 1461 views | 100notout |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 20:46 - Apr 21 by 442Dale |
Your earlier post says “… today's performance tells me that the manager and the players don't have the desire or the winning mentality”
I drew attention to this as unfair by using an example where we did show desire and a winning mentality. A game that took place three days ago. At no stage was there any excuse given for what we’ve seen today.
There’s no deflection, it’s pointing our inconsistencies as a team - which is perfectly illustrated by your post on Friday:
“ We went toe to toe with a decent Altrincham team in their own back yard and beat them with energy, desire and a fighting spirit. We played a game of football how it should be played and it was enjoyable to watch.”
I’ve yet to read any excuses for today, but I’ve only seen a few bits on Twitter and on here. There certainly doesn’t appear to be any contentment, well there wasn’t in the Sandy today. Frustration would be the word that is more appropriate. And that has been reflected on here. |
442 if you were the only person in the room I think you'd have an argument with yourself | |
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 21:23 - Apr 21 with 1456 views | TalkingSutty |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 21:04 - Apr 21 by dingdangblue |
Jim's postmatch is barely about today. Mentions more about Altrincham and obviously him being massively affected by Joe Thompson's death. He certainly wasn't too bothered about a 0-0 bore draw against a relegated part time team. He does mention Hartlepool's 'clout' ? In preparation for next Saturday. |
I'm sure he has been affected by the death of Joe, i think you could sense that today around the ground. Today's performance wasn't down to that though, we yet again lacked the quality and nouse to break down a poor team intent on defending. Hartlepool are skint and might go bust unless they get a investor over the summer and they've been very average all season. They have no 'clout'. He needs to concentrate on how good his own squad is and look at the league table, it will tell him that we are better than Hartlepool who will have nothing to play for. We need to find a ruthless streak and quickly. | | | |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 21:24 - Apr 21 with 1440 views | 442Dale |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 21:22 - Apr 21 by 100notout |
442 if you were the only person in the room I think you'd have an argument with yourself |
Very true!
But at least it’d be a consistent argument. | |
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| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 21:26 - Apr 21 with 1424 views | 100notout |
| TVOS Preview - Rochdale v AFC Fylde on 21:24 - Apr 21 by 442Dale |
Very true!
But at least it’d be a consistent argument. |
and probably about kits | |
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