| Official. The welsh language is on the decline 11:43 - May 29 with 7152 views | Whiterockin |
Much as many deny the truth, the facts are there for all to see. No I am not proud of the situation but we have to be realists to plan for the future. The aim to create 1,000,000 Welsh speakers by 2050 will never happen, let's be realistic and plan accordingly. The sooner Drakeford is gone the better, he just won't see sense.
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 23:12 - May 29 with 843 views | Dr_Winston |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 23:02 - May 29 by lifelong |
There’s no need to make it easier for me thanks, I read exactly what you said and to put it mildly it was the biggest load of crap that’s ever been put on here regarding the Welsh language. |
There clearly was a reason to make it easier for you, and this response just underlines it.
I get it. You are a little bit embarassed by your lack of comprehension and didn't appreciate me pointing it out, but we can move past that. [Post edited 29 May 23:13]
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 23:31 - May 29 with 807 views | lifelong |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 23:12 - May 29 by Dr_Winston |
There clearly was a reason to make it easier for you, and this response just underlines it.
I get it. You are a little bit embarassed by your lack of comprehension and didn't appreciate me pointing it out, but we can move past that. [Post edited 29 May 23:13]
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On the contrary, I felt a bit embarrassed for you in making such a ridiculous statement. |  | | |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 23:41 - May 29 with 798 views | Dr_Winston |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 23:31 - May 29 by lifelong |
On the contrary, I felt a bit embarrassed for you in making such a ridiculous statement. |
Yeah, it doesn't work if you can't come up with this stuff for yourself.
Anyone who has any dealings with people who speak a multitude of languages is well aware that Welsh just isn't a factor on a day to day basis. I've got Welsh speaking colleagues who have never been called upon to do so in nigh on a Decade, but also have a Slovakian colleague who can speak Russian, Polish and a bit of Ukrainian and needs to do so daily.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. | |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 23:50 - May 29 with 774 views | lifelong |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 23:41 - May 29 by Dr_Winston |
Yeah, it doesn't work if you can't come up with this stuff for yourself.
Anyone who has any dealings with people who speak a multitude of languages is well aware that Welsh just isn't a factor on a day to day basis. I've got Welsh speaking colleagues who have never been called upon to do so in nigh on a Decade, but also have a Slovakian colleague who can speak Russian, Polish and a bit of Ukrainian and needs to do so daily.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. |
You simply don’t like it because you have been called out for making which must be the most stupid statement ever put on this forum regarding the Welsh language.
Try and get over it. | | | |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 00:05 - May 30 with 750 views | Dr_Winston |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 23:50 - May 29 by lifelong |
You simply don’t like it because you have been called out for making which must be the most stupid statement ever put on this forum regarding the Welsh language.
Try and get over it. |
Keep doubling down. You're not at all making yourself look desperate and/or stupid.
Honest. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 00:29 - May 30 with 737 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 20:25 - May 29 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It is not too late. Duolingo is very good. You would pick up the basics quite quickly depending on what exposure you have had over the years. |
Might take Boundy longer than most mind …. |  |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 00:34 - May 30 with 733 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 22:03 - May 29 by Dr_Winston |
There is no real reason for anyone to learn Welsh. It's not a major international language, and it's far from the most used even within its own geographical region. I'd wager that even Arabic and Polish are far more commonly spoken on a daily basis this side of Offa's Dyke.
The learning of it should be encouraged, but not mandatory. Not in schools, nor anywhere else. If it's going to survive it should do so on its own merits and because people love it, not because Governments piss away millions on what essentially amounts to lingual CPR. |
Only you have said ‘major international language’ though ….
Thats not the point nor the ambition.
Many nations have 2 languages, its very common.
Thats the ambition for Wales. | |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 00:35 - May 30 with 731 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 23:01 - May 29 by max936 |
Its very sad in my opinion, its our heritage and identity as Welsh people, unfortunately I don't speak it, but I'd hate to see it die. |
Exactly. | |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 09:36 - May 30 with 664 views | Boundy |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 00:29 - May 30 by Kilkennyjack |
Might take Boundy longer than most mind …. |
It could do , what time frame are we talking about and can you speak it. |  |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 09:51 - May 30 with 641 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 17:07 - May 29 by onehunglow |
I'm the result of a mixed marriage
One a Welsh speaker , the other a Jack lady
I remember nothing but aggravation over it
Mum got to detest it and all it brought , which was family strife
" attacking" Welsh on here sees the same contributors defending something that is non tangible
Madness
I heard my fathers side talk nothing but Welsh when back in Cardigan and it was invariably all about back stabbing somebody or being two faced
Swansea overwhelmingly English speaking
Swansea football English
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The Welsh language has nothing to do with internal family dynamics in my experience. You appear to blame the Welsh language for aspects in your family which are completely unrelated.
It is laughable that Welsh patriots are accused of having a chip in their shoulder by some.
I cut my ancestors some slack. Times were very hard in the 1950-1980s.
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 09:53 - May 30 with 636 views | onehunglow |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 09:36 - May 30 by Boundy |
It could do , what time frame are we talking about and can you speak it. |
This is why OHL is the doyen of this site as he was in the previous incarnation
A challenger
Winston has posted material that is bang on the money
Lifey , being a Welsh speaker, pops up and defends , as he sees it
People cannot grasp this
Swansea overwhelmingly English speaking and cosmopolitan
Small towns and rural villages socially staid and defensive
Every Welsh person needs to learn Welsh is withoight doubt the most crass statement ever made on this site
And to think that poster travels away to preach the gospel
Speak Welsh , get a site to do it | |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 10:34 - May 30 with 609 views | lifelong |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 09:53 - May 30 by onehunglow |
This is why OHL is the doyen of this site as he was in the previous incarnation
A challenger
Winston has posted material that is bang on the money
Lifey , being a Welsh speaker, pops up and defends , as he sees it
People cannot grasp this
Swansea overwhelmingly English speaking and cosmopolitan
Small towns and rural villages socially staid and defensive
Every Welsh person needs to learn Welsh is withoight doubt the most crass statement ever made on this site
And to think that poster travels away to preach the gospel
Speak Welsh , get a site to do it |
So Winston is bang on the money when he says,’I’d wager that even Arabic and Polish are far more commonly spoken on a daily basis this side of Offa’s Dyke’.
I indicated that there are 9,000 Arabic speakers and 20,000 Polish speakers in Wales, on the other hand there are around 700,000 people in Wales who can speak Welsh with over 400,000 who speak it on a daily basis.
I just knew you would pop up and spout your usual bilge, it’s come to the time of year when West Wales is calling and all my fishing gear is ready to go..have a good summer. | | | |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 10:47 - May 30 with 608 views | Boundy |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 09:53 - May 30 by onehunglow |
This is why OHL is the doyen of this site as he was in the previous incarnation
A challenger
Winston has posted material that is bang on the money
Lifey , being a Welsh speaker, pops up and defends , as he sees it
People cannot grasp this
Swansea overwhelmingly English speaking and cosmopolitan
Small towns and rural villages socially staid and defensive
Every Welsh person needs to learn Welsh is withoight doubt the most crass statement ever made on this site
And to think that poster travels away to preach the gospel
Speak Welsh , get a site to do it |
Easy solution , speak if you want to ,there's plenty of ways to do so with support to go with it, if you don't want to learn it then that's fine as well but enforcement will never work . | |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 10:54 - May 30 with 604 views | onehunglow |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 10:34 - May 30 by lifelong |
So Winston is bang on the money when he says,’I’d wager that even Arabic and Polish are far more commonly spoken on a daily basis this side of Offa’s Dyke’.
I indicated that there are 9,000 Arabic speakers and 20,000 Polish speakers in Wales, on the other hand there are around 700,000 people in Wales who can speak Welsh with over 400,000 who speak it on a daily basis.
I just knew you would pop up and spout your usual bilge, it’s come to the time of year when West Wales is calling and all my fishing gear is ready to go..have a good summer. |
Yes he is
He's not dumb and not one for hyperbole like me
Anyway , coming up will be close to our 70 th year of swans support so stay healthy and safe
Better still, flog that boat and go wild swimming | |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 15:32 - May 30 with 510 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 21:54 - May 29 by union_jack |
No they don’t but it may receive the unwanted attention like that of a pampered poodle if it keeps on being thrust in our faces.
Keep on saying “you will, you must” will result in people saying “no, we won’t!”. |
Welsh is not thrust in anyone's face as far as I can see. Bilingual announcements Welsh translations on forms road signs etc are perfectly appropriate.
Welsh is the language of the England part of UK before English came. It is in many senses the language of England is f you look at DNA. There is a no reason of why English people should nott cherish the Welsh language as part of their own heritage. They do this with Boudicca for example who has been renamed a "Ancient British warrior".
Sadly the Unionist flag wavers tend to want to reinforce the English language and see Welsh ( the ancient British language of England) wither and just go away. All unwelcome things are usually quite as a " waste of money".
Swansea fans display their lack of pride in their community by dancing to English far right pipers notionally "owning" the filth sang at them. | |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 16:50 - May 30 with 471 views | union_jack |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 15:32 - May 30 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Welsh is not thrust in anyone's face as far as I can see. Bilingual announcements Welsh translations on forms road signs etc are perfectly appropriate.
Welsh is the language of the England part of UK before English came. It is in many senses the language of England is f you look at DNA. There is a no reason of why English people should nott cherish the Welsh language as part of their own heritage. They do this with Boudicca for example who has been renamed a "Ancient British warrior".
Sadly the Unionist flag wavers tend to want to reinforce the English language and see Welsh ( the ancient British language of England) wither and just go away. All unwelcome things are usually quite as a " waste of money".
Swansea fans display their lack of pride in their community by dancing to English far right pipers notionally "owning" the filth sang at them. |
Of course it’s thrust in our faces. You phone the council, you have to wait to get to the option to choose English; this after a couple of minutes listening to the message.
If you receive letters from public bodies, there’s the duplication as it automatically contains a Welsh version.
Road signs! The number of times I’ve had to take my eyes off the road to read road closure signs because if the amount of text in one sign.
Are road markings such as ‘bus stop’ or slow absolutely necessary in Welsh??
Let’s look at the first two points. Why not give the option for a recorded message to be heard in Welsh or English at the very beginning by pressing #1 or #2. That gives a choice and isn’t thrust in our faces.
With letters sent bilingually, again give those wanting it in Welsh the choice. But it should be in English as standard because that is what everybody speaks.
I’ll say it again, remove the competition from this Welsh speakers who want it to be equal or even more prominent than English and I think more people will want to learn it and certainly respect it more. |  |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 16:56 - May 30 with 464 views | onehunglow |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 16:50 - May 30 by union_jack |
Of course it’s thrust in our faces. You phone the council, you have to wait to get to the option to choose English; this after a couple of minutes listening to the message.
If you receive letters from public bodies, there’s the duplication as it automatically contains a Welsh version.
Road signs! The number of times I’ve had to take my eyes off the road to read road closure signs because if the amount of text in one sign.
Are road markings such as ‘bus stop’ or slow absolutely necessary in Welsh??
Let’s look at the first two points. Why not give the option for a recorded message to be heard in Welsh or English at the very beginning by pressing #1 or #2. That gives a choice and isn’t thrust in our faces.
With letters sent bilingually, again give those wanting it in Welsh the choice. But it should be in English as standard because that is what everybody speaks.
I’ll say it again, remove the competition from this Welsh speakers who want it to be equal or even more prominent than English and I think more people will want to learn it and certainly respect it more. |
Wife's cousin who lives in Buckley got turned down for a social services job in Connah Quay as she wasn't Welsh speaking
Connah s Quay is a place I know and I've heard heard anything resembling Welsh spoken there
Same applies to most of Flintshire
It's quite ludicrous | |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 17:03 - May 30 with 450 views | Whiterockin |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 16:50 - May 30 by union_jack |
Of course it’s thrust in our faces. You phone the council, you have to wait to get to the option to choose English; this after a couple of minutes listening to the message.
If you receive letters from public bodies, there’s the duplication as it automatically contains a Welsh version.
Road signs! The number of times I’ve had to take my eyes off the road to read road closure signs because if the amount of text in one sign.
Are road markings such as ‘bus stop’ or slow absolutely necessary in Welsh??
Let’s look at the first two points. Why not give the option for a recorded message to be heard in Welsh or English at the very beginning by pressing #1 or #2. That gives a choice and isn’t thrust in our faces.
With letters sent bilingually, again give those wanting it in Welsh the choice. But it should be in English as standard because that is what everybody speaks.
I’ll say it again, remove the competition from this Welsh speakers who want it to be equal or even more prominent than English and I think more people will want to learn it and certainly respect it more. |
Exactly right. In Wales there should be a data base where we can register our preference English or Welsh and all communication is through our preferred choice. Simple and it would save a fortune. | | | |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:29 - May 30 with 377 views | onehunglow |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 15:32 - May 30 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Welsh is not thrust in anyone's face as far as I can see. Bilingual announcements Welsh translations on forms road signs etc are perfectly appropriate.
Welsh is the language of the England part of UK before English came. It is in many senses the language of England is f you look at DNA. There is a no reason of why English people should nott cherish the Welsh language as part of their own heritage. They do this with Boudicca for example who has been renamed a "Ancient British warrior".
Sadly the Unionist flag wavers tend to want to reinforce the English language and see Welsh ( the ancient British language of England) wither and just go away. All unwelcome things are usually quite as a " waste of money".
Swansea fans display their lack of pride in their community by dancing to English far right pipers notionally "owning" the filth sang at them. |
You have utter contempt for anything England related
And your comments regarding Swansea are the reason many in the larger Welsh cities see the likes of you as backward | |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:32 - May 30 with 376 views | lifelong |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 16:50 - May 30 by union_jack |
Of course it’s thrust in our faces. You phone the council, you have to wait to get to the option to choose English; this after a couple of minutes listening to the message.
If you receive letters from public bodies, there’s the duplication as it automatically contains a Welsh version.
Road signs! The number of times I’ve had to take my eyes off the road to read road closure signs because if the amount of text in one sign.
Are road markings such as ‘bus stop’ or slow absolutely necessary in Welsh??
Let’s look at the first two points. Why not give the option for a recorded message to be heard in Welsh or English at the very beginning by pressing #1 or #2. That gives a choice and isn’t thrust in our faces.
With letters sent bilingually, again give those wanting it in Welsh the choice. But it should be in English as standard because that is what everybody speaks.
I’ll say it again, remove the competition from this Welsh speakers who want it to be equal or even more prominent than English and I think more people will want to learn it and certainly respect it more. |
It must be sheer hell for you.
If you have to take your eyes off the road for any length of time in order to read road signs it could be argued that you shouldn’t be on the road in the first place. | | | |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:36 - May 30 with 372 views | builthjack |
We live in Wales. For those of you with plenty of English blood in you, it seems a problem to accept things Welsh. The usual crowd.
If you don’t like Welsh go live over the border like Perchy.. It’s quite simple |  |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:39 - May 30 with 366 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 22:33 - May 29 by lifelong |
9,000 people in Wales speak Arabic and 21,000 speak Polish.
75,000 people in Carmarthenshire alone speak Welsh.
I would suggest the Arabs and Poles have a bit of catching up to do. |
Hmmm, Welsh speaker worldwide number about 650,00
Arabic...422 million
Polish...40 million
Do you think maybe we have a point when we say trying to force Welsh on people is having the exact ooposite of the desired effect? | | | |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:46 - May 30 with 359 views | lifelong |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:39 - May 30 by SullutaCreturned |
Hmmm, Welsh speaker worldwide number about 650,00
Arabic...422 million
Polish...40 million
Do you think maybe we have a point when we say trying to force Welsh on people is having the exact ooposite of the desired effect? |
What on earth has that got to do with it? | | | |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:57 - May 30 with 343 views | union_jack |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:32 - May 30 by lifelong |
It must be sheer hell for you.
If you have to take your eyes off the road for any length of time in order to read road signs it could be argued that you shouldn’t be on the road in the first place. |
Awful reply! I’m not alone in my thinking regards that! Far from it. It’s unnecessary, the sign bilingually that is.
You will support anything Welsh or is a Welsh initiative so I can’t take anything you say on such matters with any seriousness. | |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:59 - May 30 with 337 views | union_jack |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:36 - May 30 by builthjack |
We live in Wales. For those of you with plenty of English blood in you, it seems a problem to accept things Welsh. The usual crowd.
If you don’t like Welsh go live over the border like Perchy.. It’s quite simple |
Unfortunately, us Anglos or English are the majority.
May I suggest you move to Anglesey😁 | |
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