| Official. The welsh language is on the decline 11:43 - May 29 with 6675 views | Whiterockin |
Much as many deny the truth, the facts are there for all to see. No I am not proud of the situation but we have to be realists to plan for the future. The aim to create 1,000,000 Welsh speakers by 2050 will never happen, let's be realistic and plan accordingly. The sooner Drakeford is gone the better, he just won't see sense.
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:03 - May 31 with 1315 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 10:36 - May 31 by SullutaCreturned |
The choice...it's interesting to hear people advocate for choice after school kids are FORCED to kearn Welsh in school. They don't have that choice in school do they. As I keep on saying, those who want to learn Welsh then great, the option should be there.
I'm 58, I went to Oystermouth junior Comp after Dunns lane Primary (which is now houses) and I wasn't allowed to learn Welsh because somehow I was in the upper stream, I did a year of Latin, what a waste of a year. If I'd had the choice back then, Latin or Welsh i would have taken Welsh because at least it was relevant (myself not having ever planned on doing anything medical or legal, professionally) so yes, choice is important. Spanish weren't options back then.
Now this side of Offa's Dyke I rarely hear Welsh spoken, when we lived in Trallwn we heard Polish every day, there was a sizeable Polish community, we had Polish friends our son was in school with their kids. In Skewen I still rarely hear Welsh, out and about in work I rarely hear Welsh, nnot even up the valley but I do hear other non English languages, I can't tell you exactly what they are but urdu/Hindi would be good guesses as well as African languages.
People are free to learn whatever language they want, or should be, it should be their CHOICE though.
Having the choice is the important bit, even when in school. We give 16 year olds the vote afer all, surely they are (or should be) free to choose what language they want to learn? |
You were in the upper stream ? ….. well done you … bit of a surprise that mind … 😎 |  |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 21:10 - May 31 with 1248 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:03 - May 31 by Kilkennyjack |
You were in the upper stream ? ….. well done you … bit of a surprise that mind … 😎 |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 23:13 - May 31 with 1189 views | onehunglow |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:03 - May 31 by Kilkennyjack |
You were in the upper stream ? ….. well done you … bit of a surprise that mind … 😎 |
Not to me
Cats a class act
Almost as smart as OHL | |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 09:41 - Jun 1 with 1107 views | Dr_Winston |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 03:48 - May 31 by DJack |
And as ever, you betray your own flaws in regards to geographical/political diversity, as then most nuance is lost in the total non-understanding of another language. Even though I'm a monoglot I'm very aware that english is a bastardised language that has mugged most languages around the world as it has progressed.
I cant remember the direct english phrase translated from Mandarin but the rough literal translation is "fragrant rose"... it actually means slut. Guess which nation supplies the majority of the worlds consumer products (yes i know that you know that fact). You are effectively no different from Trampie, you are a language nationalist. How ironic. |
Except that English is a compulsory subject taught in Chinese schools from the early ages. It's one of three mandatory classes they take, alongside Chinese and Maths. It's also a key component of their college entry exams.
It's one of the reasons why Chinese students flock to the UK and US. There are nearly five times more Chinese students in the UK than in France, for example. Bit odd for them to do that if English is such a bastardised language eh? |  |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 14:21 - Jun 1 with 1051 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 09:41 - Jun 1 by Dr_Winston |
Except that English is a compulsory subject taught in Chinese schools from the early ages. It's one of three mandatory classes they take, alongside Chinese and Maths. It's also a key component of their college entry exams.
It's one of the reasons why Chinese students flock to the UK and US. There are nearly five times more Chinese students in the UK than in France, for example. Bit odd for them to do that if English is such a bastardised language eh? |
Most modern kanguages are bastardised though. English has taken words from latin, french and Germanic while Spanish has taken from various sources that include South American languages.
Also, as we should well know, within any language there are regional and social dialects and slang and jargon too which are bastardisations of the mother tongue...aren't they? | | | |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 14:26 - Jun 1 with 1038 views | Whiterockin |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 14:21 - Jun 1 by SullutaCreturned |
Most modern kanguages are bastardised though. English has taken words from latin, french and Germanic while Spanish has taken from various sources that include South American languages.
Also, as we should well know, within any language there are regional and social dialects and slang and jargon too which are bastardisations of the mother tongue...aren't they? |
Even the Welsh language has borrowed words from the English language. [Post edited 1 Jun 14:27]
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 14:44 - Jun 1 with 1016 views | onehunglow |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 14:26 - Jun 1 by Whiterockin |
Even the Welsh language has borrowed words from the English language. [Post edited 1 Jun 14:27]
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No language is pure
Rather like people really
The ones that verse leather coats and jackboots | |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 15:31 - Jun 1 with 988 views | Dr_Winston |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 14:21 - Jun 1 by SullutaCreturned |
Most modern kanguages are bastardised though. English has taken words from latin, french and Germanic while Spanish has taken from various sources that include South American languages.
Also, as we should well know, within any language there are regional and social dialects and slang and jargon too which are bastardisations of the mother tongue...aren't they? |
Indeed. Languages are living, thieving things.
The reason I suggest that French and Spanish would be better options is largely down to the colonial spread of them both. There aren't many places on the Planet where someone with a decent grasp of English, French and Spanish couldn't make themselves understood. | |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 15:42 - Jun 1 with 971 views | onehunglow |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 15:31 - Jun 1 by Dr_Winston |
Indeed. Languages are living, thieving things.
The reason I suggest that French and Spanish would be better options is largely down to the colonial spread of them both. There aren't many places on the Planet where someone with a decent grasp of English, French and Spanish couldn't make themselves understood. |
My son regular goes to meetings in Michigan, Madrid , Lyon , Bavaria and Milan
All the meetings are conducted in the international language which is English
However, he's expected to be able to have basic conversations with colleagues away from business on their languages
He took French Spanish and Russian in school and I'm glad he did
Knowing Welsh is lovely for domestic consumption
And contrary to what some say , it does not help on learning a foreign language
Try correlating Welsh with Portuguese , Russian or Hungarian
Many Russians can speak other Eastern European tongues especially those using Cyrillic alphabet and Northern Italians often speak German | |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:41 - Jun 1 with 909 views | lifelong |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 15:42 - Jun 1 by onehunglow |
My son regular goes to meetings in Michigan, Madrid , Lyon , Bavaria and Milan
All the meetings are conducted in the international language which is English
However, he's expected to be able to have basic conversations with colleagues away from business on their languages
He took French Spanish and Russian in school and I'm glad he did
Knowing Welsh is lovely for domestic consumption
And contrary to what some say , it does not help on learning a foreign language
Try correlating Welsh with Portuguese , Russian or Hungarian
Many Russians can speak other Eastern European tongues especially those using Cyrillic alphabet and Northern Italians often speak German |
You must be very proud of him.
Did you teach him double Dutch by any chance? You seem to practice it on here quite regularly. |  | | |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 19:58 - Jun 1 with 877 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:41 - Jun 1 by lifelong |
You must be very proud of him.
Did you teach him double Dutch by any chance? You seem to practice it on here quite regularly. |
I'm also fluent in double Dutch, much easier to learn than Welsh  | | | |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 20:04 - Jun 1 with 872 views | onehunglow |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:41 - Jun 1 by lifelong |
You must be very proud of him.
Did you teach him double Dutch by any chance? You seem to practice it on here quite regularly. |
I am
Wife is too
He did a triathlon this morning and came in the top ten
Swim in river Dee
Cycle around Wrexham
Run around Chester
Funnily enough , they lived six years in The Hague and we saw Den Haag beat Feyenoord but didn't see old Jack there They learnt Dutch but the Dutch always like to speak English as they like to show off their skills
He's a great guy and we love him to bits
We plan to see the Swans at the Racecourse | |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 21:40 - Jun 1 with 815 views | johnlangy |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 20:04 - Jun 1 by onehunglow |
I am
Wife is too
He did a triathlon this morning and came in the top ten
Swim in river Dee
Cycle around Wrexham
Run around Chester
Funnily enough , they lived six years in The Hague and we saw Den Haag beat Feyenoord but didn't see old Jack there They learnt Dutch but the Dutch always like to speak English as they like to show off their skills
He's a great guy and we love him to bits
We plan to see the Swans at the Racecourse |
Good on you ohl. He sounds a really good lad. | | | |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 22:11 - Jun 1 with 783 views | onehunglow |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:41 - Jun 1 by lifelong |
You must be very proud of him.
Did you teach him double Dutch by any chance? You seem to practice it on here quite regularly. |
I am
Wife is too
He did a triathlon this morning and came in the top ten
Swim in river Dee
Cycle around Wrexham
Run around Chester
Funnily enough , they lived six years in The Hague and we saw Den Haag beat Feyenoord but didn't see old Jack there They learnt Dutch but the Dutch always like to speak English as they like to show off their skills
He's a great guy and we love him to bits
We plan to see the Swans at the Racecourse | |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 22:24 - Jun 1 with 770 views | builthjack |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 22:11 - Jun 1 by onehunglow |
I am
Wife is too
He did a triathlon this morning and came in the top ten
Swim in river Dee
Cycle around Wrexham
Run around Chester
Funnily enough , they lived six years in The Hague and we saw Den Haag beat Feyenoord but didn't see old Jack there They learnt Dutch but the Dutch always like to speak English as they like to show off their skills
He's a great guy and we love him to bits
We plan to see the Swans at the Racecourse |
They only have to give us 10%, so about 1300 seats.
Tickets will be like hot cakes, season ticket holders first, and I would guess 4 - 5000 will,want those 1300. |  |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 14:57 - Jun 2 with 643 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 22:24 - Jun 1 by builthjack |
They only have to give us 10%, so about 1300 seats.
Tickets will be like hot cakes, season ticket holders first, and I would guess 4 - 5000 will,want those 1300. |
It'll depend then on when in the season it is and how many points people need.
We plan on doing more away trips again next season, I think we will pass double figures and we both want Wrexham to be on eof those trips. | | | |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 16:40 - Jun 2 with 600 views | onehunglow |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 22:24 - Jun 1 by builthjack |
They only have to give us 10%, so about 1300 seats.
Tickets will be like hot cakes, season ticket holders first, and I would guess 4 - 5000 will,want those 1300. |
Thanks Ken
I'd want four as missus looking to join us
Id be very disappointed to miss this | |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 17:06 - Jun 2 with 583 views | Whiterockin |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 16:40 - Jun 2 by onehunglow |
Thanks Ken
I'd want four as missus looking to join us
Id be very disappointed to miss this |
At least regular supporters will get first choice. | | | |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:07 - Jun 2 with 534 views | onehunglow |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 17:06 - Jun 2 by Whiterockin |
At least regular supporters will get first choice. |
Fair enough
I'm
Looking to get the thrill back after years of puke
I'm
Hoping I shalll be welcomed back into the fold
Most of all, hope my health and that of my family stays good | |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:18 - Jun 2 with 519 views | Whiterockin |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:07 - Jun 2 by onehunglow |
Fair enough
I'm
Looking to get the thrill back after years of puke
I'm
Hoping I shalll be welcomed back into the fold
Most of all, hope my health and that of my family stays good |
I'd say you have little chance with Wrexham even if it is midweek. Preston is not far for you or one with a large away end. We always have a large away following, next season if we start well will be off the scale. | | | |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 19:43 - Jun 2 with 473 views | onehunglow |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:18 - Jun 2 by Whiterockin |
I'd say you have little chance with Wrexham even if it is midweek. Preston is not far for you or one with a large away end. We always have a large away following, next season if we start well will be off the scale. |
I know Derpdale and Preston well enough
Blackburn is easier as Preston traffic is horrific
Pity Blackpool didn't come up
I might have to call in a favour for Wrexham | |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:23 - Jun 3 with 342 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 15:42 - Jun 1 by onehunglow |
My son regular goes to meetings in Michigan, Madrid , Lyon , Bavaria and Milan
All the meetings are conducted in the international language which is English
However, he's expected to be able to have basic conversations with colleagues away from business on their languages
He took French Spanish and Russian in school and I'm glad he did
Knowing Welsh is lovely for domestic consumption
And contrary to what some say , it does not help on learning a foreign language
Try correlating Welsh with Portuguese , Russian or Hungarian
Many Russians can speak other Eastern European tongues especially those using Cyrillic alphabet and Northern Italians often speak German |
I dispute this
"And contrary to what some say , it does not help on learning a foreign language".
I believe being bilingual helps people learn third and fourth languages.
Learning languages and an ability to do it, is a state of mind. This is why polyglots can speak more than two quite often. Monoglots can rarely get past first base,
If you can ride a push bike you are more competent on a motorbike. |  |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 19:17 - Jun 3 with 301 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:23 - Jun 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I dispute this
"And contrary to what some say , it does not help on learning a foreign language".
I believe being bilingual helps people learn third and fourth languages.
Learning languages and an ability to do it, is a state of mind. This is why polyglots can speak more than two quite often. Monoglots can rarely get past first base,
If you can ride a push bike you are more competent on a motorbike. |
Some languages do make learning certain other languages more easy, Welsh and German are fairly close I believe.
Most people could learn a language, a lot just don't want to/can/t be bothered. | | | |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 19:38 - Jun 3 with 283 views | onehunglow |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:23 - Jun 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I dispute this
"And contrary to what some say , it does not help on learning a foreign language".
I believe being bilingual helps people learn third and fourth languages.
Learning languages and an ability to do it, is a state of mind. This is why polyglots can speak more than two quite often. Monoglots can rarely get past first base,
If you can ride a push bike you are more competent on a motorbike. |
Laughable but not really
Ride a push bike then eadiergyo ride motor bike
Eh no
Very very wrong | |
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| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 20:15 - Jun 3 with 253 views | Gwyn737 |
| Official. The welsh language is on the decline on 18:23 - Jun 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I dispute this
"And contrary to what some say , it does not help on learning a foreign language".
I believe being bilingual helps people learn third and fourth languages.
Learning languages and an ability to do it, is a state of mind. This is why polyglots can speak more than two quite often. Monoglots can rarely get past first base,
If you can ride a push bike you are more competent on a motorbike. |
Learning another language makes learning in general more easy. | | | |
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