| Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle 16:46 - Aug 12 with 37954 views | numptydumpty |
Clearly this is our year....
Well likely half the team that won the Premier League Cup will be involved here, so the cup pedigree is there !!!
Probably as Plymouth also stated they likely to field a second team, this could be seen as no more than a preseason friendly...
I have no idea as to the result, performance or team, but am not too hopeful.
Saying that Plymouth have lost almost all their top players, but its a cup game
Random from me.
Plymouth 2 QPR 2
We progress 3- 1 on penalties (Chloe Kelly strikes the winner)
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| Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 16:29 - Aug 13 with 688 views | Esox_Lucius |
| Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 14:53 - Aug 13 by aston_hoop |
I do wonder if there is some kind of psychological element to this now where because some of these lads have played for QPR in a first team game, clubs higher up the pyramid will consider them an option for loan. For instance Jaiden Putman, having never been in a matchday squad, might have some National League clubs looking. But Jaiden Putman who QPR deem good enough to start against League 1 teams might well tempt lets say a Bromley or a Barnet to take a punt on him in L2. I might be talking tripe, but maybe there is something in the idea that these clubs see us trusting them so take a punt themselves. Because we are crap at getting our younger players actual football league loans |
For the few times I have watched Putman, I have been impressed with him. Quick, tenacious and a decent crosser of the ball. I'd like to think he is one who could hold his own in the Championship. Time will tell. |  |
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| Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 16:37 - Aug 13 with 647 views | Rangersw12 |
| Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 16:29 - Aug 13 by Esox_Lucius |
For the few times I have watched Putman, I have been impressed with him. Quick, tenacious and a decent crosser of the ball. I'd like to think he is one who could hold his own in the Championship. Time will tell. |
Only seen him twice which was last night and the U21 final and both times I've been impressed
I was surprised he wasn't involved more with the first team during pre season |  | | |
| Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 20:43 - Aug 13 with 448 views | derbyhoop |
| Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 16:37 - Aug 13 by Rangersw12 |
Only seen him twice which was last night and the U21 final and both times I've been impressed
I was surprised he wasn't involved more with the first team during pre season |
Isn't he a bit small, especially for a defender (no Paul Parker comparisons).
He certainly sticks to his task, as seen from the PDL Final and trying to mark Patterson. |  |
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| Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:11 - Aug 13 with 381 views | 1JD |
| Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 14:53 - Aug 13 by aston_hoop |
I do wonder if there is some kind of psychological element to this now where because some of these lads have played for QPR in a first team game, clubs higher up the pyramid will consider them an option for loan. For instance Jaiden Putman, having never been in a matchday squad, might have some National League clubs looking. But Jaiden Putman who QPR deem good enough to start against League 1 teams might well tempt lets say a Bromley or a Barnet to take a punt on him in L2. I might be talking tripe, but maybe there is something in the idea that these clubs see us trusting them so take a punt themselves. Because we are crap at getting our younger players actual football league loans |
They aren’t getting league 1 or 2 clubs because they aren’t good enough. Can’t think of one player who has played higher in recent years, than the level he originally went out on loan at. Perhaps Arkell-Jude Boyd. All players in recent years have gone out on loan, to the lower echelons, and largely stayed there. There’s a reason for that.
Also, blooding a 16 / 17 / 18 / 19 year olds, in our “new policy” does not suddenly make them a great talent. They may be exposed to higher age groups earlier, which you hope helps their development, but top talent is top talent and it’s a misnomer that coaching radically changes a players natural ceiling and outcome, with a few exceptions aside.
Stephen Duke-McKenna could have played at 18 years old, and I think he did for Everton in the cup, but doesn’t mean he’s actually any good. We could have blooded Charlie Owens and Ossie Kakay earlier at 18, but again doesn’t make them particularly promising talents. Are we are blooding earlier? Yes, which makes total sense and is long overdue. Are they actually top talents? Jury very much out. | | | |
| Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:15 - Aug 13 with 369 views | 1JD |
| Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 16:29 - Aug 13 by Esox_Lucius |
For the few times I have watched Putman, I have been impressed with him. Quick, tenacious and a decent crosser of the ball. I'd like to think he is one who could hold his own in the Championship. Time will tell. |
Thought he was awful last night, and didn’t want to dig him out, but genuinely surprised if anyone thinks that was a good performance. He was quite literally destroyed, and when he did the ball, his touch was extremely poor , continuously bouncing off him and giving it away for fun.
His height and physicality also seriously goes against him, meaning he has to make it up with exceptional technical ability. He doesn’t have that as evidenced. No chance of making it at QPR, and I’d wager anywhere in professional football unfortunately. | | | |
| Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 23:17 - Aug 13 with 235 views | mart_Goblin |
| Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:15 - Aug 13 by 1JD |
Thought he was awful last night, and didn’t want to dig him out, but genuinely surprised if anyone thinks that was a good performance. He was quite literally destroyed, and when he did the ball, his touch was extremely poor , continuously bouncing off him and giving it away for fun.
His height and physicality also seriously goes against him, meaning he has to make it up with exceptional technical ability. He doesn’t have that as evidenced. No chance of making it at QPR, and I’d wager anywhere in professional football unfortunately. |
Such a ridiculously harsh and actually quite nasty assessment of one of our young players based on less than 90 minutes of football .
Give constructive criticism of course, but to say he probably won’t make it anywhere in professional football is just a bit unnecessary really isn’t it?
Thank god these forums and social media weren’t around when I played . I wasn’t good enough anyway , but I dont think I would have left the house knowing what might be said about me .
I did play right back though and although he undoubtedly had a tough night he showed enough to suggest he can have decent career.
He still has years of learning to do yet for god sake .
Ultimately, judging shy of them individually is impossible because they will very rarely ALL be thrown under the bus together like that . They will have players around them with experience to guide them through where they will look 10 times better just for having those players around them [Post edited 13 Aug 23:40]
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| Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 00:18 - Aug 14 with 155 views | kensalriser |
Luckily for him he wasn't literally destroyed. Or if he was and I missed it, condolences to his family. |  |
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| Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 06:06 - Aug 14 with 17 views | NorthantsHoop |
Out of all the performances by the youngsters at Plymouth, thought Pearman looked lost and needs vast improvement and Talla when he came on was struggling. Still not sure what position Bennie plays, don't think he does either, sort of a utility player. Anyway good to give these youngsters a chance at a higher level, bit of a shame we don't progress further in the competition, when we had a good chance at 2-0 up. Lack of experience not available on the bench probably did for us in that 2nd half |  | | |
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