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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle 16:46 - Aug 12 with 40524 viewsnumptydumpty

Clearly this is our year....

Well likely half the team that won the Premier League Cup will be involved here, so the cup pedigree is there !!!

Probably as Plymouth also stated they likely to field a second team, this could be seen as no more than a preseason friendly...

I have no idea as to the result, performance or team, but am not too hopeful.

Saying that Plymouth have lost almost all their top players, but its a cup game


Random from me.

Plymouth 2 QPR 2
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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:54 - Aug 12 with 1890 viewsqprd

this was such a joke

We have injuries, sure

But we could have still put out a team w some experience in it. We have 3 more games until the international break, and none of the brutal Saturday Tuesday Saturday games. Why are we treating the second game of the season as if it’s game 47 of the season ? Totally pointless and disrespectful to the fans

We’re qpr fans. We don’t get to enjoy many wins. Why not take one here when it was potentially on offer?
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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:55 - Aug 12 with 1884 viewsconnell10

Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:48 - Aug 12 by joolsyp

You honestly think Stefan picked that team on his own?


I honestly believe Nourry picked the team. The bloke is a ego manic imo

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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:55 - Aug 12 with 1884 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:00 - Aug 12 by BazzaInTheLoft

Yes, he's now made me look a tit and the club geniuses.


I thought your post was great. So much to think about:

I would have played Walsh - as you say he needs minutes and I think you should play your first-choice keeper in knockout games (if that's what Walsh is now). If they didn't agree with those reasons, I thought they should have picked Salamon.

At half-time Nardi's performance was putting pressure on the new, young No.1. By full-time it was putting pressure on himself and we've managed to devalue one of our players.

To get back to your post, I'm not sure any of the three goalies named are helped by tonight?

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(No subject) (n/t) on 21:56 - Aug 12 with 1879 viewsqprd

Nourry is a disgrace
[Post edited 12 Aug 22:02]
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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:56 - Aug 12 with 1872 viewsozexile

Where's the pride in this club to actually go out and try and win a football match. I'm fed up of soundbites and cliches. Go and win a football match. Yes you may get injuries that's life, that's football. Go and win a football match.
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(No subject) (n/t) on 21:56 - Aug 12 with 1868 viewsqprd

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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:57 - Aug 12 with 1844 viewsconnell10

Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:48 - Aug 12 by joolsyp

You honestly think Stefan picked that team on his own?


I honestly believe Nourry picked the team. The bloke is a ego manic imo

AND WHEN I DREAM , I DREAM ABOUT YOU AND WHEN I SCREAM I SCREAM ABOUT YOU!!!!!
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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:57 - Aug 12 with 1830 viewsDominkingston

So. Had a long chat with my mate Tony today…..life long Plymouth fan….we haven’t spoken in a while since they got relegated……but the game tonight got us chatting……turns out he has been diagnosed with prostate cancer…..we laughed about the times we’d seen our teams and he had no hope about tonight……I told him we would gift him a win……and we did! So happy days for my mate but FFS let us make an effort!! Lots of love to all who travelled….
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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:59 - Aug 12 with 1737 viewsstainrods_elbow

Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:51 - Aug 12 by Blue_Castello

Well I dont believe Stephan made the decision to field a complete development team for our first round cup game, that obviously came from our Director of Football.

Anybody know what's happening with Alfie Tuck, he was one of our star players in the Cup Final over Brentford and now can't even get on the pitch.


If the manager's genuinely not picking the team (which some Nourry haters seem to think is the case just because they insist it is without a shred of evidence), he obviously has no professional pride.

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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:59 - Aug 12 with 1780 viewsHAYESBOY

We should have had some experience on the bench.
Pearlman should have been off 10 mins into the 2nd half. Tuck not used at all.
Nardi great first half and poor 2nd half.

The pluses from tonight:
Burrell should be starting next game. Wilkie and Smith look good prospects.
Vale is an option at left back but not the solution. Great left peg delivery.
Bennie will hopefully develop more. Versatile.
Great away support on a Tuesday night.

If any signings coming in then Nourry will get them out quickly to take away from this loss.

Now, who's fit for the weekend?

Smells like a trout farm in here

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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:59 - Aug 12 with 1766 viewsnumptydumpty

Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:50 - Aug 12 by ozexile

This club blows my mind. You want to develop players that's great. But no one is buying them if they only see them playing the likes of Plymouth. They need to be seen playing premier league teams maybe on a cup run. And yes I know injuries etc. it's all B""llo"


Can the club explain the thinking behind the substitutes bench ???

Perfectly ok to have all first team players on the bench. Oh but its a three match week !!

Not 16 and 17 year olds. We had given plenty a chance already

Ie a safety net to get back into a game...


Dont give me protecting against injuries !!!

Completely peed off


Doesn’t sell us very well to potential new signings
[Post edited 12 Aug 22:03]

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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 22:00 - Aug 12 with 1733 viewslassel

Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:46 - Aug 12 by mart_Goblin

Not trying to get anything from this game now

Just statistics and charts for Nourry’s next PowerPoint .

Congratulations to these youngsters getting debuts and minutes . Genuinely happy for them and they would have learned alot .
The comment about Putnam ‘not ever playing for the first team again ‘ on here a little while ago just makes me feel physically sick that fans talk about our young players like that .
He’s a f*cking kid making his debut.
Fans maybe . Supporters? Not so sure .

We have an injury crisis at the club like almost never before which is saying something .

But make no mistake .
Thee have been many players come and gone who were better than some of these and various stages that got NoWHERE near the 1st team .

Another chapter of ego and self serving garbage that is running rampant at our club which a lot of you are only too happy to wave through like it’s ‘great’.
There are huge red flags . One of which seems to be the head coach going along with this utter guff.

I could go on but what’s the point .

A small shout to EDB and Nardi tonight .
Never mind their performance.

Professional and committed in everything they did when really , they’ve been hung out to dry completely.
They should be looking for exit for their own sakes .


The saddest part about it is that for all the spinning those at the top table will be doing about putting out such a young team, only 3 of the starting 11 actually came through the EDS, the rest were bought in…..
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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 22:00 - Aug 12 with 1733 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:57 - Aug 12 by connell10

I honestly believe Nourry picked the team. The bloke is a ego manic imo


Furlong I reckon but I’d like to know if JS agreed or not.
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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 22:01 - Aug 12 with 1692 viewsaston_hoop

For those of you who genuinely don't think JS picked the side today, what next then? Because a head coach not picking the line up is an issue right? Like a proper big issue?

I am not sure I believe it personally

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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 22:02 - Aug 12 with 1657 viewsWegerles_Stairs

Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:33 - Aug 12 by Wilkinswatercarrier

No it's not.

Again, people completely missing the point of tonight. Get the youngsters in, get them playing so they can push onto the 1st team. These players will have more in these 90 minutes than an entire season of development football.
It's not difficult.


Why don't we play them every week then? Why the disrespect to the cup and a winnable game?

We should absolutely be blooding young players but not all at once like that.
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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 22:02 - Aug 12 with 1660 viewsmart_Goblin

Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:47 - Aug 12 by lassel

I mean you have spent all off season insisting that the EDS kids should be throw into the first team and next season they will make up the core of a title winning team…

No matter which way you try and spin it, they instead, rather predictably, showed that absolutely none of them can be relied upon in a competitive league game this season.


Totally agree with your first paragraph.
I mean WWC is on his own little path . Best just to ignore

Totally disagree with your second .

You throw them all in together then of course they will struggle .
But ‘absolutely none’?
Come on man . You had Esquirdinha and Morgan as 2 of our better players just 72 hours ago .
You bleed them into an experienced team then they might just have a chance .


You can’t just write them off after tonight .
It’s reactionary and misses the point .
They shouldn’t have been thrown in like this in the first place.
Just so the CEO can use it as statistics down the road .
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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 22:03 - Aug 12 with 1632 viewsdmm

Tomorrow would be a great time to announce a new striker to take our minds off this debacle.
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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 22:04 - Aug 12 with 1592 viewsbosh67

It felt kind of inevitable. You’ll win nowt with kids but… perhaps a good way for Stephan to see who is perhaps ready, nearly ready or not ready at all?

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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 22:06 - Aug 12 with 1507 viewsA40Bosh

Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 22:00 - Aug 12 by BazzaInTheLoft

Furlong I reckon but I’d like to know if JS agreed or not.


I genuinely believe that there was an agreement or dictate from CN at the start of the season that Furs’ squad would be front and centre for the cup 1st round. Tonight clearly gives Stephan a pass in terms of decision making for a cup game and protects his 1st team from further injuries ahead of Watford (I really do. It want to be sat in Vicarage Road 0-4 after 18 mins again).

If we get a point or a win on Saturday tonight will be forgotten as it is (for me) every other year.

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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 22:07 - Aug 12 with 1468 viewsBostonR

Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:47 - Aug 12 by lassel

I mean you have spent all off season insisting that the EDS kids should be throw into the first team and next season they will make up the core of a title winning team…

No matter which way you try and spin it, they instead, rather predictably, showed that absolutely none of them can be relied upon in a competitive league game this season.


What a load of bollocks to suggest that none of those development players will make the first team this season based on one game.
I think Tylon Smith might breakthrough as he develops further.
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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 22:11 - Aug 12 with 1376 viewsBostonR

Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:47 - Aug 12 by lassel

I mean you have spent all off season insisting that the EDS kids should be throw into the first team and next season they will make up the core of a title winning team…

No matter which way you try and spin it, they instead, rather predictably, showed that absolutely none of them can be relied upon in a competitive league game this season.


What a load of bollocks to suggest that none of those development players will make the first team this season based on one game.
I think Tylon Smith might breakthrough as he develops further.
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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 22:12 - Aug 12 with 1336 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 21:46 - Aug 12 by andrew1302

Can't blame the side but reckon Stefan will have annoyed a lot of people. For me simply not acceptable to put out an under 23 side. We are not playing a side to give them experience we are supposed to be a club who can have cup runs and not just be satisfied sitting in the lower reaches of the Championship. A cup run gives a lift from the constant struggle. Poor by Stefan


To be fair, we don't know enough yet to judge, Andrew.

A few questions I have, I don't know the answers yet, but we all will in time - no secrets in our family, and all that.

Are Head Coaches now told by the medical team who is fit and how long they can play for and what was Stéphan told? We know that our Managers used to be advised, as Beale told us that he twice ignored their advice on playing Willock, but does the Head Coach have less power or influence?

Was there a club decision re the importance of this competition?

As Head Coach, is Stéphan free to discuss with the fans and the media his team selection and the reasons for it?

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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 22:13 - Aug 12 with 1316 viewsloftus77

Yes, what a hotch-potch and, seemingly, totally self-inflicted.

I can't believe Julian Stephan constructed and picked the team tonight - it just doesn't make any human footballing sense from a Head Coach looking for a first win . Really looks like a club decision. A local or national journalist must ask the question at the Presser : "To confirm, Julian, was the selection of the team and subs tonight 100% your decision as Head Coach and no one else's?"

Depressing, demoralising, deflating and, potentially, pretty disgusting.
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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 22:18 - Aug 12 with 1237 viewsBluce_Ree

Exactly what I expected and less.

Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore.

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Carabao Cup Winners thread - victim one - Plymouth Argyle on 22:20 - Aug 12 with 1191 viewsBluce_Ree

Exactly what I expected and less.

Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore.

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