| Protesting together 07:15 - Aug 24 with 7862 views | dmm |
There have been calls for coordinated action, such as protesting at the training ground and/or invading the pitch. They're valid ideas. Here are a few others.
*Everyone should email the club: supporterservices@qpr.co.uk I think email would be better than social media in this case.
*A coordinated action at a home game, eg at a prearranged moment fans show red cards and banners with a statement such as 'Nourry Out'.
*Boycott a home game. It could be for the first 10 minutes, a half or the whole game. A press release to explain why fans are doing this would be needed.
The last two need some organisation and getting key people on board to communicate to fans, but they're doable.
The club is its fans. So, the club's employees must hear our voice and act accordingly. |  | | |  |
| Protesting together on 07:22 - Aug 24 with 3504 views | FDC |
As an initial strategy in-game protests have more potential for movement building imo, since lots of supporters are not part of the twitter / social media / message board world. Protests during the match therefore have more potential for catching on. |  | | |
| Protesting together on 07:54 - Aug 24 with 3361 views | loneranger1 |
Great call, DMM.
Have done number 1 and feel a bit better for getting it off my chest. Sure they'll take no notice, but hey.
Am happy to be involved in the coordinated action and a partial boycott of the game on Saturday if some kind of movement can build on this. |  | | |
| Protesting together on 08:06 - Aug 24 with 3270 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
On this message board alone you have a diverse range of opinions regarding the problems. Add those younger fans on Twitter/X, who are much much more pro CN than on here and it may be difficult. Just on this board we have threads advocating:
Owners Out. OK, but who would buy us?
CN out. OK, then what? Go back to what the manager wants the manager gets ref Beale era.
Le Shrug. Some calling for him to go Don't think the club will do that yet due to the cost.
Or do some want to pull the whole thing down and start again? Frightening.
If we were in a full financial meltdown like Sheff Wednesday or Reading then I get it, but it's not, and for all the criticism the owners/CN are actually trying to make the club self sufficient. Something we all want.
I think that the club has gone so far with this 'project' that I don't think they could change direction even if they wanted to. The financial cost would be huge and you could have a complete collapse in moral on the playing side as players who had been signed by CN are left high and dry. Remember what happened under Beale, but there are a lot more players signed by CN.
And no one should be encouraging fans to invade the pitch (not that you are) unless they are also prepared to get a lifetime ban.
I'd just think long and hard before people start organising things that could cause the club to potentially implode.
Just for perspective. It's two defeats (one horrendous) and a draw. We've had worse in very recent history. I'm going to give it a few more weeks. | |
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| Protesting together on 08:07 - Aug 24 with 3257 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
This is why you need a strong LSA / supporter governance model. |  | | |
| Protesting together on 08:31 - Aug 24 with 3063 views | dmm |
| Protesting together on 08:06 - Aug 24 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
On this message board alone you have a diverse range of opinions regarding the problems. Add those younger fans on Twitter/X, who are much much more pro CN than on here and it may be difficult. Just on this board we have threads advocating:
Owners Out. OK, but who would buy us?
CN out. OK, then what? Go back to what the manager wants the manager gets ref Beale era.
Le Shrug. Some calling for him to go Don't think the club will do that yet due to the cost.
Or do some want to pull the whole thing down and start again? Frightening.
If we were in a full financial meltdown like Sheff Wednesday or Reading then I get it, but it's not, and for all the criticism the owners/CN are actually trying to make the club self sufficient. Something we all want.
I think that the club has gone so far with this 'project' that I don't think they could change direction even if they wanted to. The financial cost would be huge and you could have a complete collapse in moral on the playing side as players who had been signed by CN are left high and dry. Remember what happened under Beale, but there are a lot more players signed by CN.
And no one should be encouraging fans to invade the pitch (not that you are) unless they are also prepared to get a lifetime ban.
I'd just think long and hard before people start organising things that could cause the club to potentially implode.
Just for perspective. It's two defeats (one horrendous) and a draw. We've had worse in very recent history. I'm going to give it a few more weeks. |
There will always be different opinions among fans, but it looks to me like there's a substantial number who share the same one: namely, that Nourry is the problem.
I don't see anyone calling for the club to pull everything down and start again. It's entirely possible to replace Nourry and retain the desirable aspects of the 'project', such as the emphasis on developing young players. After all, that's what the club has been trying to do for many years.
Yesterday's debacle has simply acted as a trigger. Nourry's methods of running our club have been seen as unacceptable to many of us for a long time. And, they are failing in so many ways, both on and off the pitch, and I fear things will only get worse. So, there is every reason for fans to make their views known. | | | |
| Protesting together on 08:42 - Aug 24 with 2971 views | QPR_John |
"There have been calls for coordinated action, such as protesting at the training ground and/or invading the pitch. They're valid ideas. Here are a few others."
Invading the pitch is not a valid idea. All it will do is get the club in trouble with the FL. | | | |
| Protesting together on 08:46 - Aug 24 with 2942 views | FDC |
| Protesting together on 08:06 - Aug 24 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
On this message board alone you have a diverse range of opinions regarding the problems. Add those younger fans on Twitter/X, who are much much more pro CN than on here and it may be difficult. Just on this board we have threads advocating:
Owners Out. OK, but who would buy us?
CN out. OK, then what? Go back to what the manager wants the manager gets ref Beale era.
Le Shrug. Some calling for him to go Don't think the club will do that yet due to the cost.
Or do some want to pull the whole thing down and start again? Frightening.
If we were in a full financial meltdown like Sheff Wednesday or Reading then I get it, but it's not, and for all the criticism the owners/CN are actually trying to make the club self sufficient. Something we all want.
I think that the club has gone so far with this 'project' that I don't think they could change direction even if they wanted to. The financial cost would be huge and you could have a complete collapse in moral on the playing side as players who had been signed by CN are left high and dry. Remember what happened under Beale, but there are a lot more players signed by CN.
And no one should be encouraging fans to invade the pitch (not that you are) unless they are also prepared to get a lifetime ban.
I'd just think long and hard before people start organising things that could cause the club to potentially implode.
Just for perspective. It's two defeats (one horrendous) and a draw. We've had worse in very recent history. I'm going to give it a few more weeks. |
"CN out. OK, then what? Go back to what the manager wants the manager gets ref Beale era"
Sorry Wilkins but that's a false binary. If CN were to leave it doesn't necessarily follow that we swing in the opposite direction. We could instead entrust the running of the club to someone with some actual experience of doing so, with a less neurotic approach to working with managers. | | | |
| Protesting together on 08:47 - Aug 24 with 2928 views | paulparker |
| Protesting together on 08:06 - Aug 24 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
On this message board alone you have a diverse range of opinions regarding the problems. Add those younger fans on Twitter/X, who are much much more pro CN than on here and it may be difficult. Just on this board we have threads advocating:
Owners Out. OK, but who would buy us?
CN out. OK, then what? Go back to what the manager wants the manager gets ref Beale era.
Le Shrug. Some calling for him to go Don't think the club will do that yet due to the cost.
Or do some want to pull the whole thing down and start again? Frightening.
If we were in a full financial meltdown like Sheff Wednesday or Reading then I get it, but it's not, and for all the criticism the owners/CN are actually trying to make the club self sufficient. Something we all want.
I think that the club has gone so far with this 'project' that I don't think they could change direction even if they wanted to. The financial cost would be huge and you could have a complete collapse in moral on the playing side as players who had been signed by CN are left high and dry. Remember what happened under Beale, but there are a lot more players signed by CN.
And no one should be encouraging fans to invade the pitch (not that you are) unless they are also prepared to get a lifetime ban.
I'd just think long and hard before people start organising things that could cause the club to potentially implode.
Just for perspective. It's two defeats (one horrendous) and a draw. We've had worse in very recent history. I'm going to give it a few more weeks. |
What’s a few more weeks when you have had around 13 years of incompetence
The club is a laughing stock through out the football league , it’s seen as a soft touch by rival managers & players
I don’t know how old you are but this football club had class once it meant something, that shirt meant something , we were once a head of our time on and off the pitch , the big teams hated playing us , the players we had were top notch and when we sold them we got someone in better and then sold them on for profit , most of our money has come from Sterling who never touched a ball for the first team and Eze, a player who went to a club that for a very long time was not only behind us but one where we nicked their players, there in Europe this season btw
The club has accepted being a cuck we watch on in awe at Bournemouth, Brighton , Brentford , Burnley how they are run , take a step back and think where all those clubs were when this board took over
Blackpool 6-1
Coventry 7-1
WBA 7-1
Those are just recent drubbings how many games at HQ have we stunk the gaff out
It cannot go on anymore I mean what’s the breaking point
Sacking warnock
Appointing Hughes and Redknapp
FFP
Poor signings
Decent players allowed to run down contracts
Poor managers
Poor DOF
Poor results
Poor facilities
Ben Williams
Cup games tossed away
This has to be the time to protest the cherry on the cake is sacking Marti a miracle worker who saved this club and could of taken it further if not for board interference
How ironic would it be if we go down this year and he takes Leicester up |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Protesting together on 08:49 - Aug 24 with 2910 views | QPunkR |
| Protesting together on 08:46 - Aug 24 by FDC |
"CN out. OK, then what? Go back to what the manager wants the manager gets ref Beale era"
Sorry Wilkins but that's a false binary. If CN were to leave it doesn't necessarily follow that we swing in the opposite direction. We could instead entrust the running of the club to someone with some actual experience of doing so, with a less neurotic approach to working with managers. |
Like, hmm, Les Ferdinand? |  |
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| Protesting together on 08:54 - Aug 24 with 2868 views | loneranger1 |
| Protesting together on 08:06 - Aug 24 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
On this message board alone you have a diverse range of opinions regarding the problems. Add those younger fans on Twitter/X, who are much much more pro CN than on here and it may be difficult. Just on this board we have threads advocating:
Owners Out. OK, but who would buy us?
CN out. OK, then what? Go back to what the manager wants the manager gets ref Beale era.
Le Shrug. Some calling for him to go Don't think the club will do that yet due to the cost.
Or do some want to pull the whole thing down and start again? Frightening.
If we were in a full financial meltdown like Sheff Wednesday or Reading then I get it, but it's not, and for all the criticism the owners/CN are actually trying to make the club self sufficient. Something we all want.
I think that the club has gone so far with this 'project' that I don't think they could change direction even if they wanted to. The financial cost would be huge and you could have a complete collapse in moral on the playing side as players who had been signed by CN are left high and dry. Remember what happened under Beale, but there are a lot more players signed by CN.
And no one should be encouraging fans to invade the pitch (not that you are) unless they are also prepared to get a lifetime ban.
I'd just think long and hard before people start organising things that could cause the club to potentially implode.
Just for perspective. It's two defeats (one horrendous) and a draw. We've had worse in very recent history. I'm going to give it a few more weeks. |
Fair enough.
Totally get that there is a diverse range of opinions on this message board alone.
For me, sending a message to the club was about letting them know that I am very concerned about how a lot of things are being handled on many front - I'm not suggesting 'sack the manager', 'sell the club', not even 'sack Nourry' (happy to admit I'm currently in the Nourry out camp, but I haven't mentioned him by name in my email, not even his role).
Agree that we all want the club to be self-sufficient! However, I am concerned that on the current trajectory, we will be relegated before that happens.
I tend to be very patient - the only managers i have actively wanted to go have been Paul Hart, Mark Hughes and (reluctantly but knowing it was for the best) Gareth Ainsworth.
Appreciate I have probably seen fewer ups and downs than you have, as a slightly younger supporter - and if you are happy to hold fire, fair enough.
I have just had enough of the team looking undercooked (unfit and not assembled right), the fact that some decisions look so odd, and don't seem to do us any favours (e.g. let the Head of Performance work remotely from Dubai and start working for another employer, drop Nardi for Walsh without Walsh having gained enough experience, let Paal go (always available and now we have no senior left back) but renew Frey's contract (always injured)).
These are just examples, and appreciate you might have a different view on those individual cases - but the club's decision-making and its (lack of) communication on things like injuries and fitness, when it is clearly a major issue and stopping us from competing, are doing my head in. Add in that we had no manager for however many weeks it was after putting the previous manager on garden leave, then got one with no championship experience and an undercooked squad, and look where we are. Maybe we'll get better quickly, starting against Charlton, but I am not looking forward to finding out, quite frankly.
You're right that it's 2 defeats and 1 draw - but there is also the cup surrender to Plymouth thrown in, which felt like a PR exercise, and it comes off the back of a pre-season where I thought the writing was already on the wall.
And I certainly won't be invading the pitch any time soon, or encouraging others to do that! | | | |
| Protesting together on 09:05 - Aug 24 with 2782 views | essextaxiboy |
| Protesting together on 08:49 - Aug 24 by QPunkR |
Like, hmm, Les Ferdinand? |
Like Steve Gallen ...see Charlton / Mllwall progress |  | | |
| Protesting together on 09:08 - Aug 24 with 2751 views | Dorse |
Coordinated mooning at the director's box. Do it right and it could be like a Mexican wave.
The entire ground sat in deathly silence for the entire game, staring intently at Nourry, not even breaking eye contact to swig from smuggled-in bottles of Vimto. Every now and then, someone belches 'Bollocks'.
Get that div who plays trumpet in the England band ('banned') to play Pigbag in a tragic minor key throughout the game, whilst we hold up pictures of George Kulcsar, Gus Caesar and Tamas Priskin.
Stink bombs. Thousands of them. |  |
| 'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!' |
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| Protesting together on 09:12 - Aug 24 with 2706 views | Dorse |
Ooh, got another one. Get QPR Flags to put one together that just says 'Seven. Bloody. ONE...?' | |
| 'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!' |
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| Protesting together on 09:13 - Aug 24 with 2680 views | rbee |
In my opinion any protests should focus solely on Christian Nourry, anything else deflects from the primary target.
As I said in another thread, historically Ruben and co have reacted to fan unrest and in my opinion they will do again, it won't take much.
Focus on, recruitment, fitness and results.
I really would not mention Marti otherwise it gives the impression that fans are lamenting the loss of a popular head coach and our problems run deeper than that. |  | | |
| Protesting together on 09:19 - Aug 24 with 2609 views | dmm |
I proposed Dorse as our campaign manager. | | | |
| Protesting together on 09:27 - Aug 24 with 2525 views | FDC |
| Protesting together on 09:19 - Aug 24 by dmm |
I proposed Dorse as our campaign manager. |
In the vein of 1960s french surrealism-adjacent protest.
"Under the pitch, the beach" | | | |
| Protesting together on 09:30 - Aug 24 with 2483 views | FDC |
| Protesting together on 08:49 - Aug 24 by QPunkR |
Like, hmm, Les Ferdinand? |
But that's another false binary isn't it? (False ternary?)
Clearly DOF roles work at other clubs. To say "CN is not suitable for this role" is not to say "let's get Redknapp back to bankrupt the club" nor is it to say "let's go back to our old DOF". It is actually possible to say "The intention here is correct, but it is being executed incorrectly and by the incorrect person" | | | |
| Protesting together on 09:30 - Aug 24 with 2480 views | golborne |
I want to be called Loretta, it’s my right as a fan | | | |
| Protesting together on 09:32 - Aug 24 with 2460 views | dmm |
| Protesting together on 08:42 - Aug 24 by QPR_John |
"There have been calls for coordinated action, such as protesting at the training ground and/or invading the pitch. They're valid ideas. Here are a few others."
Invading the pitch is not a valid idea. All it will do is get the club in trouble with the FL. |
Point made. A pitch invasion would mean a club fine. Mansfield Town was fined £10,000 and Port Vale £25,000. I'd imagine the fine on QPR would be substantially more.
What's more of a concern would be fans receiving an automatic ban, which I believe is an EFL rule. Whether that would be possible with a very large number of fans, I don't know.
I'd still argue that a pitch invasion is valid because QPR is the fans' club and, should the situation call for it, fans should be able to do it, albeit in a peaceful manner. However, at this point in the proceedings other methods of protest ought to be considered first. | | | |
| Protesting together on 09:35 - Aug 24 with 2420 views | colinallcars |
I advise anyone meeting Mr Nourry, to rebuff him.
That'll work. |  | | |
| Protesting together on 09:38 - Aug 24 with 2411 views | Mr_Beef |
| Protesting together on 08:06 - Aug 24 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
On this message board alone you have a diverse range of opinions regarding the problems. Add those younger fans on Twitter/X, who are much much more pro CN than on here and it may be difficult. Just on this board we have threads advocating:
Owners Out. OK, but who would buy us?
CN out. OK, then what? Go back to what the manager wants the manager gets ref Beale era.
Le Shrug. Some calling for him to go Don't think the club will do that yet due to the cost.
Or do some want to pull the whole thing down and start again? Frightening.
If we were in a full financial meltdown like Sheff Wednesday or Reading then I get it, but it's not, and for all the criticism the owners/CN are actually trying to make the club self sufficient. Something we all want.
I think that the club has gone so far with this 'project' that I don't think they could change direction even if they wanted to. The financial cost would be huge and you could have a complete collapse in moral on the playing side as players who had been signed by CN are left high and dry. Remember what happened under Beale, but there are a lot more players signed by CN.
And no one should be encouraging fans to invade the pitch (not that you are) unless they are also prepared to get a lifetime ban.
I'd just think long and hard before people start organising things that could cause the club to potentially implode.
Just for perspective. It's two defeats (one horrendous) and a draw. We've had worse in very recent history. I'm going to give it a few more weeks. |
It's not a black and white choice of CN out and then going back to what the manager wants he gets. As always, there is a middle ground.
Many people, I believe, are broadly supportive of the DoF model. That DoF should be someone with enough experience, both of football, and of managing people, to be able to do the job properly. You don't give it to someone with no experience of either. |  | | |
| Protesting together on 09:44 - Aug 24 with 2359 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Protesting together on 08:47 - Aug 24 by paulparker |
What’s a few more weeks when you have had around 13 years of incompetence
The club is a laughing stock through out the football league , it’s seen as a soft touch by rival managers & players
I don’t know how old you are but this football club had class once it meant something, that shirt meant something , we were once a head of our time on and off the pitch , the big teams hated playing us , the players we had were top notch and when we sold them we got someone in better and then sold them on for profit , most of our money has come from Sterling who never touched a ball for the first team and Eze, a player who went to a club that for a very long time was not only behind us but one where we nicked their players, there in Europe this season btw
The club has accepted being a cuck we watch on in awe at Bournemouth, Brighton , Brentford , Burnley how they are run , take a step back and think where all those clubs were when this board took over
Blackpool 6-1
Coventry 7-1
WBA 7-1
Those are just recent drubbings how many games at HQ have we stunk the gaff out
It cannot go on anymore I mean what’s the breaking point
Sacking warnock
Appointing Hughes and Redknapp
FFP
Poor signings
Decent players allowed to run down contracts
Poor managers
Poor DOF
Poor results
Poor facilities
Ben Williams
Cup games tossed away
This has to be the time to protest the cherry on the cake is sacking Marti a miracle worker who saved this club and could of taken it further if not for board interference
How ironic would it be if we go down this year and he takes Leicester up |
Exactly. Disengaged owners mean this will go on and on. It does beggar belief that someone with as little experience as Nourry is running the entire show, including telling the 'manager' which goalkeeper to play and who plays in cup matches. | | | |
| Protesting together on 09:57 - Aug 24 with 2241 views | Rangersw12 |
| Protesting together on 08:07 - Aug 24 by BazzaInTheLoft |
This is why you need a strong LSA / supporter governance model. |
Unfortunately the LSA hasn't been the same since the Paladini era | | | |
| Protesting together on 10:06 - Aug 24 with 2157 views | Northolt_Rs |
I think home and away games will start to be boycotted anyway. I feel ill after watching that debacle unfold before my eyes yesterday. It was levels beyond humiliating. |  |
| Scooters, Tunes, Trainers and QPR. |
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| Protesting together on 10:06 - Aug 24 with 2160 views | 7374Ranger |
| Protesting together on 07:22 - Aug 24 by FDC |
As an initial strategy in-game protests have more potential for movement building imo, since lots of supporters are not part of the twitter / social media / message board world. Protests during the match therefore have more potential for catching on. |
I agreee with the opening post that action is needed to get Nourry and Williams out.
Leaflets detailing how to protest at a future game i.e. handed out at the Charlton game for a protest at a match in September, could be handed out to the fans in the streets approaching the ground. | | | |
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