| What have we become? 08:43 - Aug 31 with 2158 views | Southamptonfan |
To quote SaintWizzler in another thread:
What have we become? (Great rhetorical question)
Feeling p!ssed off this morning to be honest. Bournemouth won at Spurs, great, committed performance despite selling lots of players, and bringing in new players. No excuses for needing to integrate players there. They just replace well and win games. How come they can do it with their 12000 seats and we can't?
Pompey above us for the first time in 10 years. Our players being fitter under Will Still? Do us a favour. They always seem to be ill with stomach problems. Do they need to check the club chef too? Or does he let them drink to the early hours. He doesn't seem the strict type.
Our fans seem okay with this. It's okay, be positive, don't be negative, support the team. They will still be politely clapped off if Pompey go.5 points clear of us, won't they
It's all fine doesn't matter. A once proud, consistent PL club, going backwards it seems. We used to be the top club in the south and proud. Long gone are those days and for many it's okay, doesn't matter. Where is the passion for this club?
Yes, it's early days, but sort it out Saints. It's been a very poor start.
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| What have we become? on 09:47 - Aug 31 with 1630 views | saintwizzler |
Your post on another thread sums it up…
‘Is it a delusion to think that Saints were top dogs in the south, above Pompey and Bournemouth (Brighton too), proud consistent members of the premier league? Perhaps that was a dream? Now we are way down the pecking order. Time to wake up I guess. Just accept it, it's all fine. Be realistic and accept we can't compete with Bournemouth. Try telling that to West Ham fans, Newcastle fans or Everton fans, who simply won't accept failure.’ |  |
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| What have we become? on 10:01 - Aug 31 with 1574 views | dirk_doone |
| What have we become? on 09:47 - Aug 31 by saintwizzler |
Your post on another thread sums it up…
‘Is it a delusion to think that Saints were top dogs in the south, above Pompey and Bournemouth (Brighton too), proud consistent members of the premier league? Perhaps that was a dream? Now we are way down the pecking order. Time to wake up I guess. Just accept it, it's all fine. Be realistic and accept we can't compete with Bournemouth. Try telling that to West Ham fans, Newcastle fans or Everton fans, who simply won't accept failure.’ |
It wasn't a delusion at all. We were the top team on the south coast for most of my lifetime, above the others in the league. We also have the biggest fanbase. Even in the all-time attendance table, which includes the period when we had a small capacity at the Dell, we are well above all the other south coast clubs.
What is true is that for a club of our size, we are, in terms of trophies won, arguably, the most underachieving club in the country. Most clubs of our size, and some smaller ones as well, have won 4 or 5 major trophies or more.
A lot depends on luck with owners and, currently, Sport Republic are running us into the ground with their incompetence.
https://www.englishfootballleaguetables.co.uk/stats/totalavegate.html [Post edited 31 Aug 10:11]
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| What have we become? on 10:08 - Aug 31 with 1540 views | TripleNiemi |
Serious question - does Dragan et al (Sport Republic) have any targets or strategy set to get Saints where ‘they’ want the club to be? Do they want us back in the top flight or is that simply an added bonus? One must not question the fanzones (or this new soft play area they want) as all we get are ‘we must find ways to generate revenue in order to improve what we can spend under PSR rules’. I mean, come off it, what income the Gulags bring in probably equates to one players wage for the month.
Forgot all this shït, we need to go back to basics of what Southampton FC should be all about - running and getting the first team back to where we have been for a large portion of my existence, ‘the Top Flight’.
Get slated for this, but we are a basket case under these muppets.
#WeMarchOnBollox [Post edited 31 Aug 10:13]
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| What have we become? on 10:08 - Aug 31 with 1544 views | MytchettSaint |
We have/are becoming a championship team whether we're ok with it or not.
Sports Republic have taken an established premier league club and made it much much worse in footballing terms. I have no belief that the people making the big decisions on football will suddenly start getting it right now. Until they bugger off we are in purgatory.
I didn't go yesterday but I watched the Chelsea v Fulham game yesterday and VAR once again favouring the bigger club, I can't say I long for us to return to the premier league to suffer that once more either.
With regards to the football, the start of the season has been quite poor in my opinion. 2 late goals against a newly promoted team giving us our only 3 points so far. Let's see where we are after 10 games though, transfer window shut, new signings bedded in... |  |
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| What have we become? on 10:10 - Aug 31 with 1529 views | saintwizzler |
| What have we become? on 10:01 - Aug 31 by dirk_doone |
It wasn't a delusion at all. We were the top team on the south coast for most of my lifetime, above the others in the league. We also have the biggest fanbase. Even in the all-time attendance table, which includes the period when we had a small capacity at the Dell, we are well above all the other south coast clubs.
What is true is that for a club of our size, we are, in terms of trophies won, arguably, the most underachieving club in the country. Most clubs of our size, and some smaller ones as well, have won 4 or 5 major trophies or more.
A lot depends on luck with owners and, currently, Sport Republic are running us into the ground with their incompetence.
https://www.englishfootballleaguetables.co.uk/stats/totalavegate.html [Post edited 31 Aug 10:11]
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https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/forum/324476/delusions/#2 | |
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| What have we become? on 10:15 - Aug 31 with 1493 views | saintwizzler |
| What have we become? on 10:08 - Aug 31 by TripleNiemi |
Serious question - does Dragan et al (Sport Republic) have any targets or strategy set to get Saints where ‘they’ want the club to be? Do they want us back in the top flight or is that simply an added bonus? One must not question the fanzones (or this new soft play area they want) as all we get are ‘we must find ways to generate revenue in order to improve what we can spend under PSR rules’. I mean, come off it, what income the Gulags bring in probably equates to one players wage for the month.
Forgot all this shït, we need to go back to basics of what Southampton FC should be all about - running and getting the first team back to where we have been for a large portion of my existence, ‘the Top Flight’.
Get slated for this, but we are a basket case under these muppets.
#WeMarchOnBollox [Post edited 31 Aug 10:13]
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Good question.
Surely Sport Republic realise that Championship clubs don’t make money, quite the opposite.
Solak is a billionaire.
Billionaires are not stupid.
I want Southampton Football Club in the top flight for where the majority of my 45 years watching them have been.
Apologies if this upsets anyone. | |
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| What have we become? on 10:24 - Aug 31 with 1434 views | mushinexile |
Billionaires are not stupid.
I give you Donald John Trump. | |
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| What have we become? on 10:26 - Aug 31 with 1423 views | MytchettSaint |
| What have we become? on 10:15 - Aug 31 by saintwizzler |
Good question.
Surely Sport Republic realise that Championship clubs don’t make money, quite the opposite.
Solak is a billionaire.
Billionaires are not stupid.
I want Southampton Football Club in the top flight for where the majority of my 45 years watching them have been.
Apologies if this upsets anyone. |
Why would that upset anyone?
I’ve supported Saints for the same length of time. I’d like us to be playing at the highest level. Not having VAR spoiling games though is lovely. I’ll take the wins where I can at the moment. | |
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| What have we become? on 10:28 - Aug 31 with 1408 views | dirk_doone |
| What have we become? on 10:26 - Aug 31 by MytchettSaint |
Why would that upset anyone?
I’ve supported Saints for the same length of time. I’d like us to be playing at the highest level. Not having VAR spoiling games though is lovely. I’ll take the wins where I can at the moment. |
I think he means the Sport Republic PR man with his pint of beer avatar, who listed a few players' names from the 60s to try to give himself some authenticity.
I haven't looked at Saintsweb yet today, but I expect he's on there as well. [Post edited 31 Aug 10:32]
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| What have we become? on 10:32 - Aug 31 with 1383 views | saintwizzler |
| What have we become? on 10:24 - Aug 31 by mushinexile |
Billionaires are not stupid.
I give you Donald John Trump. |
He’s done quite well for someone who is stupid! | |
| We thought that we had the answers,
It was the questions we had wrong. |
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| What have we become? on 10:49 - Aug 31 with 1323 views | Heisenberg |
I’ve become what I have always been. A Saints fan who has seen some great sides and some absolute dire ones. It is what it is. I also am enjoying the Championship. Not bothered about the Premier League at all. |  |
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| What have we become? on 11:11 - Aug 31 with 1261 views | 1ASIN12 |
| What have we become? on 10:15 - Aug 31 by saintwizzler |
Good question.
Surely Sport Republic realise that Championship clubs don’t make money, quite the opposite.
Solak is a billionaire.
Billionaires are not stupid.
I want Southampton Football Club in the top flight for where the majority of my 45 years watching them have been.
Apologies if this upsets anyone. |
It certainly doesn’t upset me.
We are a top flight club, however under Dragan and the loons we are becoming a mid table championship club.
It’s mad that many are just settling for that. | | | |
| What have we become? on 11:16 - Aug 31 with 1221 views | Southamptonfan |
| What have we become? on 11:11 - Aug 31 by 1ASIN12 |
It certainly doesn’t upset me.
We are a top flight club, however under Dragan and the loons we are becoming a mid table championship club.
It’s mad that many are just settling for that. |
It makes no sense. If we went down again, would we just say, we had a bad year, it's all okay, we can't just turn it around that quickly. Then in league 2? Never mind that we have fallen so far. It's not a problem, nobody minds.
It's that defeatist, doesn't matter, no pressure type of attitude that creates a lazy, who cares environment. We should be demanding more, and not accepting it, if this bad start continues. [Post edited 31 Aug 11:20]
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| What have we become? on 12:04 - Aug 31 with 1103 views | kingslandstand1 |
Fook me, THB as well?
Come on Will, touting for your next job already? |  |
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| What have we become? on 12:27 - Aug 31 with 1028 views | cocklebreath |
| What have we become? on 10:26 - Aug 31 by MytchettSaint |
Why would that upset anyone?
I’ve supported Saints for the same length of time. I’d like us to be playing at the highest level. Not having VAR spoiling games though is lovely. I’ll take the wins where I can at the moment. |
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| What have we become? on 13:49 - Aug 31 with 939 views | felly1 |
Just relax, its fine.
4 games in. We've just drawn 2-2 with Watford away.
A bit disappointing to be fair, but a superb free kick by their on loan Bayern Munich attacker got them a deserved point.
Enjoy a roast, take the kids or dog down to Lepe for a walk.
Don't think its really time for more wailing and gnashing of teeth just yet mush. | | | |
| What have we become? on 17:35 - Aug 31 with 822 views | barry_sanchez |
| What have we become? on 10:01 - Aug 31 by dirk_doone |
It wasn't a delusion at all. We were the top team on the south coast for most of my lifetime, above the others in the league. We also have the biggest fanbase. Even in the all-time attendance table, which includes the period when we had a small capacity at the Dell, we are well above all the other south coast clubs.
What is true is that for a club of our size, we are, in terms of trophies won, arguably, the most underachieving club in the country. Most clubs of our size, and some smaller ones as well, have won 4 or 5 major trophies or more.
A lot depends on luck with owners and, currently, Sport Republic are running us into the ground with their incompetence.
https://www.englishfootballleaguetables.co.uk/stats/totalavegate.html [Post edited 31 Aug 10:11]
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Totally agree, like the City itself, a place with low aspiration, when all those ships dock we do nothing to keep them within the City, what the f**k is there to do for an international tourist? We don't have a conference centre for large bands, no monuments or totems that unite the City, its one shit gaff when compared to cities the same size. I'll defend it to the hilt when outsiders say its bollocks but it is.
The football team reflects this, I can not think of a larger team that has won so little. |  |
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| What have we become? on 18:07 - Aug 31 with 785 views | saintmark1976 |
| What have we become? on 17:35 - Aug 31 by barry_sanchez |
Totally agree, like the City itself, a place with low aspiration, when all those ships dock we do nothing to keep them within the City, what the f**k is there to do for an international tourist? We don't have a conference centre for large bands, no monuments or totems that unite the City, its one shit gaff when compared to cities the same size. I'll defend it to the hilt when outsiders say its bollocks but it is.
The football team reflects this, I can not think of a larger team that has won so little. |
“ I can not think of a larger team that has won so little”.
That’s because there isn’t one.
Most of our so called fans are just increasingly happy to have a day out at the St Mary’s Fun Fair.
What happens on the pitch is nowadays just a distraction from their food in hospitality, the “ fun” in the fan zones or darts in the Dell Pub. | |
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| What have we become? on 18:32 - Aug 31 with 738 views | grumpy |
| What have we become? on 17:35 - Aug 31 by barry_sanchez |
Totally agree, like the City itself, a place with low aspiration, when all those ships dock we do nothing to keep them within the City, what the f**k is there to do for an international tourist? We don't have a conference centre for large bands, no monuments or totems that unite the City, its one shit gaff when compared to cities the same size. I'll defend it to the hilt when outsiders say its bollocks but it is.
The football team reflects this, I can not think of a larger team that has won so little. |
I agree the city needs to take a serious look itself.
I went into town the other day and came away depressed.
The Bargate had cheap little stalls round it,the precinct was dirty and there were people with bedding lying in doorways.
What tourists make of it I dread to think.
It didn’t use to be like this. |  | | |
| What have we become? on 18:36 - Aug 31 with 729 views | saintwizzler |
| What have we become? on 18:32 - Aug 31 by grumpy |
I agree the city needs to take a serious look itself.
I went into town the other day and came away depressed.
The Bargate had cheap little stalls round it,the precinct was dirty and there were people with bedding lying in doorways.
What tourists make of it I dread to think.
It didn’t use to be like this. |
Unfortunately this is the same across the country. | |
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| What have we become? on 18:45 - Aug 31 with 712 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
| What have we become? on 18:07 - Aug 31 by saintmark1976 |
“ I can not think of a larger team that has won so little”.
That’s because there isn’t one.
Most of our so called fans are just increasingly happy to have a day out at the St Mary’s Fun Fair.
What happens on the pitch is nowadays just a distraction from their food in hospitality, the “ fun” in the fan zones or darts in the Dell Pub. |
Really!
I seriously thought you lot would know the answer to this question.
Middlesbrough
Birmingham |  |
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| What have we become? on 18:56 - Aug 31 with 680 views | Southamptonfan |
| What have we become? on 18:07 - Aug 31 by saintmark1976 |
“ I can not think of a larger team that has won so little”.
That’s because there isn’t one.
Most of our so called fans are just increasingly happy to have a day out at the St Mary’s Fun Fair.
What happens on the pitch is nowadays just a distraction from their food in hospitality, the “ fun” in the fan zones or darts in the Dell Pub. |
A day out at the funfair and then an attitude of oh well, who cares, doesn't matter, not to worry, it's only football, we've had a good day out, and lost again but get behind the lads, I've enjoyed a burger and a pint and some music in the fan zone.
Personally, I go to watch Saints win, nothing else matters. I could watch them sat on a dusty bench, if it meant they won the game. Too much focus on entertainment and enjoying the funfair as you say.
But anything that makes the owners lots of money £££ [Post edited 31 Aug 19:06]
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| What have we become? on 18:56 - Aug 31 with 679 views | Ifonly |
| What have we become? on 18:36 - Aug 31 by saintwizzler |
Unfortunately this is the same across the country. |
Indeed it is. The death of the high street means the death of the town centre in many places. I went to London's oxford street not long ago and even there I was shocked at what a dump it is now. The litter everywhere makes things seem even worse. | | | |
| What have we become? on 18:59 - Aug 31 with 657 views | Southamptonfan |
| What have we become? on 18:56 - Aug 31 by Ifonly |
Indeed it is. The death of the high street means the death of the town centre in many places. I went to London's oxford street not long ago and even there I was shocked at what a dump it is now. The litter everywhere makes things seem even worse. |
Nobody cares about anything any more. Lazy, who cares attitude all round, no drive, no determination. | |
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