| I should have paid more. 13:27 - Sep 3 with 3840 views | Whiterockin |
Angela Raynors words. Labour really are imploding, at the very least she should be suspended while this is investigated. |  | | |  |
| I should have paid more. on 13:45 - Sep 3 with 1368 views | onehunglow |
Bang to rights
Has no option or should
Fall on her sword?
Doubt it as no politician has integrity to do that |  |
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| I should have paid more. on 13:47 - Sep 3 with 1365 views | raynor94 |
I thought it was only the Tories who behaved like this, people in glasshouse.................. |  |
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| I should have paid more. on 13:49 - Sep 3 with 1355 views | union_jack |
I’m no fan of this woman I admit but gullible I may be in thinking that the advice she was given was wrong but that she acted in good faith.
It was not a simple case apparently and being in her position I can’t imagine she would do it deliberately to avoid paying the correct tax.
If I’m wrong I’ll hold my hands up. |  |
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| I should have paid more. on 13:51 - Sep 3 with 1356 views | Whiterockin |
| I should have paid more. on 13:47 - Sep 3 by raynor94 |
I thought it was only the Tories who behaved like this, people in glasshouse.................. |
It's all politicians and all should be treated equally. I remember the sick the Conservatives used to have on here and rightly so, let's see if the same posters criticise Labour with the same venom. | | | |
| I should have paid more. on 13:52 - Sep 3 with 1341 views | Whiterockin |
| I should have paid more. on 13:49 - Sep 3 by union_jack |
I’m no fan of this woman I admit but gullible I may be in thinking that the advice she was given was wrong but that she acted in good faith.
It was not a simple case apparently and being in her position I can’t imagine she would do it deliberately to avoid paying the correct tax.
If I’m wrong I’ll hold my hands up. |
Then suspend her while its being investigated. | | | |
| I should have paid more. on 14:15 - Sep 3 with 1297 views | onehunglow |
If nothing else, politicians know exactly to look after No1 | |
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| I should have paid more. on 14:37 - Sep 3 with 1273 views | Gwyn737 |
| I should have paid more. on 13:49 - Sep 3 by union_jack |
I’m no fan of this woman I admit but gullible I may be in thinking that the advice she was given was wrong but that she acted in good faith.
It was not a simple case apparently and being in her position I can’t imagine she would do it deliberately to avoid paying the correct tax.
If I’m wrong I’ll hold my hands up. |
I'd like to think that too but it's not a good look at all.
She did self refer but I can't tell yet if she jumped first. | | | |
| I should have paid more. on 15:09 - Sep 3 with 1239 views | union_jack |
| I should have paid more. on 14:37 - Sep 3 by Gwyn737 |
I'd like to think that too but it's not a good look at all.
She did self refer but I can't tell yet if she jumped first. |
Indeed, there’s lots we don’t know. I’m only going on TV interviews to date which to this gullible old bugger sound plausible.  | |
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| I should have paid more. on 15:13 - Sep 3 with 1236 views | Boundy |
| I should have paid more. on 13:49 - Sep 3 by union_jack |
I’m no fan of this woman I admit but gullible I may be in thinking that the advice she was given was wrong but that she acted in good faith.
It was not a simple case apparently and being in her position I can’t imagine she would do it deliberately to avoid paying the correct tax.
If I’m wrong I’ll hold my hands up. |
Stick em up , she knew exactly what she was doing . | |
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| I should have paid more. on 15:16 - Sep 3 with 1233 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| I should have paid more. on 13:49 - Sep 3 by union_jack |
I’m no fan of this woman I admit but gullible I may be in thinking that the advice she was given was wrong but that she acted in good faith.
It was not a simple case apparently and being in her position I can’t imagine she would do it deliberately to avoid paying the correct tax.
If I’m wrong I’ll hold my hands up. |
Deputy PM can't get good tax advice on buying property? |  |
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| I should have paid more. on 15:24 - Sep 3 with 1215 views | Whiterockin |
| I should have paid more. on 15:16 - Sep 3 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Deputy PM can't get good tax advice on buying property? |
No wonder they can't run the country. Some just don't want to believe the truth. | | | |
| I should have paid more. on 16:02 - Sep 3 with 1174 views | felixstowe_jack |
Tax evasion is a criminal offence. Wonder if she will be charged like those having a sandwich at work during covoid. | |
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| I should have paid more. on 16:34 - Sep 3 with 1136 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| I should have paid more. on 13:49 - Sep 3 by union_jack |
I’m no fan of this woman I admit but gullible I may be in thinking that the advice she was given was wrong but that she acted in good faith.
It was not a simple case apparently and being in her position I can’t imagine she would do it deliberately to avoid paying the correct tax.
If I’m wrong I’ll hold my hands up. |
I could sort of believe the notion of her getting bad advice if she was just some normal woman buying a house. But she’s the bleeding Secretary of State for housing. She’s literally surrounded by experts who are supposedly running the countries housing infrastructure.
She’s been caught with her hand in the till and is now trying to put the money back. |  |
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| I should have paid more. on 16:47 - Sep 3 with 1108 views | Whiterockin |
| I should have paid more. on 16:34 - Sep 3 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I could sort of believe the notion of her getting bad advice if she was just some normal woman buying a house. But she’s the bleeding Secretary of State for housing. She’s literally surrounded by experts who are supposedly running the countries housing infrastructure.
She’s been caught with her hand in the till and is now trying to put the money back. |
She was trying to be too clever and she isn't. | | | |
| I should have paid more. on 17:02 - Sep 3 with 1077 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| I should have paid more. on 16:47 - Sep 3 by Whiterockin |
She was trying to be too clever and she isn't. |
My family home is in my Manchester constituency where I am registered for financial purposes etc. I have a grace and favour house in London and I want to buy a flat in Brighton. Is this my main residence? | |
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| I should have paid more. on 17:08 - Sep 3 with 1062 views | Tomsyard |
| I should have paid more. on 16:34 - Sep 3 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I could sort of believe the notion of her getting bad advice if she was just some normal woman buying a house. But she’s the bleeding Secretary of State for housing. She’s literally surrounded by experts who are supposedly running the countries housing infrastructure.
She’s been caught with her hand in the till and is now trying to put the money back. |
Absolutely right but she’s now scrambling around looking to blame someone else, problem is that someone else is an expert in that legal area and from what I’ve read putting a property in trust and changing main residence is something lawyers could do in their sleep. I reckon she was given options and she thought she’d be ok with taking the option she did after all who’s going to find out!! But she’ll be ok as someone will appear out of the woodwork and take the blame and then she can come out fighting with the usual guff about misogyny, successful working class women being hated by the nasty far right etc etc. Sadly they are all the same | | | |
| I should have paid more. on 17:14 - Sep 3 with 1045 views | union_jack |
Seems I’m in the minority here😂😂😂 | |
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| I should have paid more. on 17:27 - Sep 3 with 1033 views | AnotherJohn |
| I should have paid more. on 17:14 - Sep 3 by union_jack |
Seems I’m in the minority here😂😂😂 |
I do admit the possibility that this was a naive mistake, but I think we need full and convincing corroboration that incorrect legal advice was indeed given before letting her off the hook. Angela was, as has been said, Minister for Housing, and it is pretty damning if the Minister can't get correct information about a matter like this. | | | |
| I should have paid more. on 17:49 - Sep 3 with 989 views | max936 |
All these high level "politicians" are the same self serving vermin. |  |
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| I should have paid more. on 17:56 - Sep 3 with 971 views | max936 |
| I should have paid more. on 16:34 - Sep 3 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I could sort of believe the notion of her getting bad advice if she was just some normal woman buying a house. But she’s the bleeding Secretary of State for housing. She’s literally surrounded by experts who are supposedly running the countries housing infrastructure.
She’s been caught with her hand in the till and is now trying to put the money back. |
It's what she has got away with is the question, snivelling guttersnipes the lot of them.
There's no one in Government from normal civilian life, they're all very wealthy at least and these vermin are robbing the taxpayer blind, whilst covering their own tracks in ferreting their wealth away.
Thing is its never been any different, they just aren't getting away with all of it, but no doubt most of it. | |
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| I should have paid more. on 18:19 - Sep 3 with 935 views | johnlangy |
| I should have paid more. on 17:02 - Sep 3 by JACKMANANDBOY |
My family home is in my Manchester constituency where I am registered for financial purposes etc. I have a grace and favour house in London and I want to buy a flat in Brighton. Is this my main residence? |
The 'family home' in Manchester is owned in trust by their disabled son. So as far as I understand it she has no financial interest in the house.
She says that now the only place she owns is the flat in Brighton. | | | |
| I should have paid more. on 18:38 - Sep 3 with 900 views | majorraglan |
| I should have paid more. on 17:27 - Sep 3 by AnotherJohn |
I do admit the possibility that this was a naive mistake, but I think we need full and convincing corroboration that incorrect legal advice was indeed given before letting her off the hook. Angela was, as has been said, Minister for Housing, and it is pretty damning if the Minister can't get correct information about a matter like this. |
Totally agree with you.
The circumstances sound far more complicated than your typical property transaction and it may well be the case that she has been given duff legal advice, however given her position, the public interest in the case and the need for us to be reassured she hasn’t done anything untoward we need to be able to scrutinise what’s happened and, in all honesty we need to see the relevant legal advice or have a solicitor step up to the plate and admit it was their mistake and that they gave Rayner incorrect advice. That would of course cause the legal professional concerned major embarrassment and in my opinion severely question their professionalism, but given the facts that’s what it’s going to take for her to survive.
Anything less than the legal professional concerned completely exonerating her isn’t good enough, unless she’s 100% unequivocally “cleared” then she simply has to go. | | | |
| I should have paid more. on 18:42 - Sep 3 with 880 views | majorraglan |
| I should have paid more. on 18:19 - Sep 3 by johnlangy |
The 'family home' in Manchester is owned in trust by their disabled son. So as far as I understand it she has no financial interest in the house.
She says that now the only place she owns is the flat in Brighton. |
That may be the case, but we need complete clarity and to be able to scrutinise the detail to ensure the facts stack up, anything short of that isn’t good enough.
She’s a Minister of State and the Deputy Prime Minister, there can be nothing short of 100% transparency. | | | |
| I should have paid more. on 18:48 - Sep 3 with 859 views | Whiterockin |
| I should have paid more. on 18:38 - Sep 3 by majorraglan |
Totally agree with you.
The circumstances sound far more complicated than your typical property transaction and it may well be the case that she has been given duff legal advice, however given her position, the public interest in the case and the need for us to be reassured she hasn’t done anything untoward we need to be able to scrutinise what’s happened and, in all honesty we need to see the relevant legal advice or have a solicitor step up to the plate and admit it was their mistake and that they gave Rayner incorrect advice. That would of course cause the legal professional concerned major embarrassment and in my opinion severely question their professionalism, but given the facts that’s what it’s going to take for her to survive.
Anything less than the legal professional concerned completely exonerating her isn’t good enough, unless she’s 100% unequivocally “cleared” then she simply has to go. |
Don't you feel that it is very worrying that the housing minister took advice on housing and it was legally wrong. Scale that up through the government housing minister making a housing decision which could impact government policy and it was not accurate and you start to see a government making a number of u turns. Either the government ministers are not up to the job or their advisors are not, possibly both and you start to see how the country is in a mess. | | | |
| I should have paid more. on 18:48 - Sep 3 with 854 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| I should have paid more. on 17:08 - Sep 3 by Tomsyard |
Absolutely right but she’s now scrambling around looking to blame someone else, problem is that someone else is an expert in that legal area and from what I’ve read putting a property in trust and changing main residence is something lawyers could do in their sleep. I reckon she was given options and she thought she’d be ok with taking the option she did after all who’s going to find out!! But she’ll be ok as someone will appear out of the woodwork and take the blame and then she can come out fighting with the usual guff about misogyny, successful working class women being hated by the nasty far right etc etc. Sadly they are all the same |
There are probably thousands and thousands of women in politics far more talented, capable, intelligent and hard working than Rayner will ever be but they didn’t have the benefit of being married to the leader of one of the biggest unions who can parachute them into the safest seat in the country.
She’s got to where she has through pure naked nepotism. | |
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