| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread 11:22 - Sep 23 with 14013 views | ModeratorC |
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⚽️ Swansea City: Lawrence Vigouroux; Josh Key, Ben Cabango (captain), Cameron Burgess, Josh Tymon; Marko Stamenic, Malick Yalcouye, Ethan Galbraith; Ronald, Zeidane Inouss; Žan Vipotnik.
Substitutes: Andy Fisher, Jay Fulton, Jisung Eom, Ishe Samuels-Smith, Goncalo Franco, Liam Cullen, Manuel Benson, Kaelan Casey, Adam Idah.
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| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 17:42 - Sep 27 with 1741 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 17:29 - Sep 27 by SullutaCreturned |
My turn,having waited a while to cool down because today really riled me.
First the ref, he booked Cabango for a shirt pull, ayt half time the stats were 3 fouls by us and 10 by Millwall with 2 of them being taking a players legs from behind but he didn't book them. In the second it continued for a while with the oppo getting away with loads of shirt pulling, shoves in the back and general shithousery. They are a dirty team.
Second, Key today was utter garbage, he was useless in defence and kept slowing is down going forward to the point somebody called him a Grimes clone. No, not me.
We lacked fire and urgency, we slowed it down and let them organise their defence, we dodn't try quick pass and move we just stood around. several times we literally lost possession because the ball holder had no one to pass to.
When we did attack with pace it was usually Inoussa and he looked dangerous. Galbraith was trying but all too often players took the easy option, sideways or backwards instead of going for the forward pass. We made some bad decisions.
The goal, in my opinion, was just shit. Cabango was being fouled and Vigoroux should have claimed the ball but he just froze on his line, the keeper should have had it but he's not brave enough. He did something similar at Birmingham, he had a one on one but he was favourite, he didn't try to smother the ball but let the forward get there first, fortunately he made a good save.
Vipotnik played well and deserved better. Aside from him, Inoussa and Galbraith U can't say anybody plyed really well, they were just blurgh.
Millwall are spoilers and they were helped by an idiot ref, they bullied us and he let them get away with it time and again.
Where has all the passion and desire gone, we had it last season when Sheehan took over. Is the big difference that now he IS the boss full time, he feels the pressure and isn't making the best decisions? On paper we have a much better squad but our results are worse.
Such are my thoughts on today.
PS, before I forget, Idah looks a long way from the player want, just like Vip did last season. Idah looks a waste of money but maybe in 12 months time he'll have caught up! |
Echos my sentiments exactly. Just not good enough. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 17:55 - Sep 27 with 1667 views | guthrieintherain |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 15:00 - Sep 27 by bennytheblue |
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| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 17:59 - Sep 27 with 1638 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 17:55 - Sep 27 by guthrieintherain |
1230 on Sky |
We will receive £9M from broadcasting this season, how much do they get in the lower leagues. Absolutely dwarfs gate receipts. | | | |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 18:05 - Sep 27 with 1590 views | onehunglow |
I would suggest Joe we are seeing a trend
And it’s not good
Not hyperbole but fact
That said , reg today was appalling and suspiciously inept
I can see now why so many are staying away
Sheehan has been backed and he’s not delivering
We believed we had real strength in depth but right now seeing poor stuff
Key has been a weak link since he came to us and is always likely to screw up . Just watch him closely
I think our centre backs are decent but Vig has regressed
We should ask why
Vipotnik has turned his game around and should be applauded for that
Ijah looks every bit as horrific as Celtic fans suggested
I refuse to believe we couldn’t have got better for that money
And yes , he’s not been here long . Same with B Wales who is IMO being handled poorly He can surely be no worse than Ijah but big he is then just what have we spent money on
Sheehan ? Allow me to be first . He doesn’t , at this moment in time, be up to it
Most managers whose teams have played us have sussed him
Millwall , just what an affront they are to the game on the field and off it
Trash of the worst kind
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| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 18:07 - Sep 27 with 1591 views | shingle |
Stop taking notice of these headers who believe we are better than we are, 13th in the table means we are not under achieving, if we manage a few places higher well that will be a bonus. | | | |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 18:14 - Sep 27 with 1553 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 18:07 - Sep 27 by shingle |
Stop taking notice of these headers who believe we are better than we are, 13th in the table means we are not under achieving, if we manage a few places higher well that will be a bonus. |
I believe , and o might be wrong, we have enough quality to be better and bring crowds back
Quite clearly our folk are staying away as they are not as sanguine as some posters
I’m truly now of a belief Sheehan is not getting the best out of his staff
I read we lack creative midfielders , with incredulity . Galbraith alone is a trenendous talent
It’s time IMO to replace both full backs and to quit faffing about at the back and coach Vigaroux to command as he could | |
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| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 18:15 - Sep 27 with 1559 views | 1983 |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 18:07 - Sep 27 by shingle |
Stop taking notice of these headers who believe we are better than we are, 13th in the table means we are not under achieving, if we manage a few places higher well that will be a bonus. |
Yep sounds about right we are where we are, I said it when somebody done a 25/26 season poll we are a mid table championship side and will be for a long time, to some thats bad to some thats ok |  |
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| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 18:21 - Sep 27 with 1530 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 18:15 - Sep 27 by 1983 |
Yep sounds about right we are where we are, I said it when somebody done a 25/26 season poll we are a mid table championship side and will be for a long time, to some thats bad to some thats ok |
Right now, I’d settle for that
People underestimate this league
There are no nailed on relegation candidates for a start and also promotion wide open | |
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| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 18:23 - Sep 27 with 1532 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 18:07 - Sep 27 by shingle |
Stop taking notice of these headers who believe we are better than we are, 13th in the table means we are not under achieving, if we manage a few places higher well that will be a bonus. |
The way we are playing, we probably do deserve to be where we are.
If people are saying we should be playing better and picking up more points than we are though, I agree. The squad is there, he’s just not getting the best out of them at the moment.
Look at todays bench, nearly all of them would have been starters last season. | | | |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 18:23 - Sep 27 with 1532 views | Dr_Winston |
You can't claim that we're a mid table side whilst simultaneously claiming that Sheehan is doing a poor job. They are diametrically opposed opinions.
If we're not that good then Sheehan is doing as well as can be expected. If Sheehan is underperforming then the squad is good enough to finish higher than mid table.
Pick one. |  |
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| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 18:25 - Sep 27 with 1520 views | swan65split |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 14:31 - Sep 27 by Fireboy2 |
If that had happened anywhere on the pitch it would have been a penalty.
What an effing joke the ref is.
Feel.sorry for the boys, we deserved a win.
Btw idah is poor.
Going to take a while for him to get upto speed, if he ever does. |
theres some bad ones about, the one in the forest game is getting conned left right and centre. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 18:27 - Sep 27 with 1505 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 18:23 - Sep 27 by jack247 |
The way we are playing, we probably do deserve to be where we are.
If people are saying we should be playing better and picking up more points than we are though, I agree. The squad is there, he’s just not getting the best out of them at the moment.
Look at todays bench, nearly all of them would have been starters last season. |
We should be at least learning
I’m
Not sure Sheehan is
Most of the players have shown real promise so quite shy we don’t screw opposition to the floor beats me
Frankly, I think none of us knows just wtf is going on and why we can’t see off teams like Milleall who make no secret as to how they want to play | |
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| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 18:38 - Sep 27 with 1480 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 18:27 - Sep 27 by onehunglow |
We should be at least learning
I’m
Not sure Sheehan is
Most of the players have shown real promise so quite shy we don’t screw opposition to the floor beats me
Frankly, I think none of us knows just wtf is going on and why we can’t see off teams like Milleall who make no secret as to how they want to play |
The one thing I would say in his defence is he’s had to integrate a lot of new players in a short space of time. That’s never going to be seamless.
He has the players to be putting teams like Milwall away though. He over performed with a much weaker squad last season. | | | |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 18:43 - Sep 27 with 1453 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 18:38 - Sep 27 by jack247 |
The one thing I would say in his defence is he’s had to integrate a lot of new players in a short space of time. That’s never going to be seamless.
He has the players to be putting teams like Milwall away though. He over performed with a much weaker squad last season. |
It has to be his only defence
What worries me is his lack of anger at these results although behind the camera he might be seething
I fail to see why B Wales hasn’t had a chance
Morgan Whitaker was one who was shunned but that was because of his attitude so what’s the reason for Bobbys exclusion
I think Sheehan is having a long honeymoon period
We have assembled a strong squad with diversion every position
I’d suggest enough time to see the weaknesses at full back and on the last third where Vipotnik looks capable of putting them away , his goal today another genre of goal
He’s looking g terrific | |
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| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 18:54 - Sep 27 with 1434 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Frustrating again today. Millwall were quite limited and a weak ref helped them.
Overall I feel it's better that we have some very good players that are not quite coming together as a team rather than have not so good players grinding out results. |  |
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| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 19:36 - Sep 27 with 1337 views | sons_of_omri |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 14:28 - Sep 27 by union_jack |
Idah did kick the ball out of Behda’s hands but it was close.
A push in the box with 2 hands went unpunished at the death.
Don’t give me this ‘it all levels itself out’ cr@p because I’m not seeing that at the moment. Two bad decisions in two games could have cost us 4 points. I’m fuming😡😡 |
I might very well be wrong but was there a hint of handball in the build up for our goal? | | | |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 19:53 - Sep 27 with 1302 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 19:36 - Sep 27 by sons_of_omri |
I might very well be wrong but was there a hint of handball in the build up for our goal? |
By whom? | | | |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 20:03 - Sep 27 with 1271 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 18:07 - Sep 27 by shingle |
Stop taking notice of these headers who believe we are better than we are, 13th in the table means we are not under achieving, if we manage a few places higher well that will be a bonus. |
I think we are better than 13th. I went to Boro and wirnessed a very close game where we were poor but inly suffered a narrow defeat.
The truth is this division is very much of a muchness, there aren't standout teams this season. Not yet anyway, maybe somebody can play themselves into form but the 3 relegated teams have all been meh too.
We have a better squad this season, we need performances to reflect that and then I think we are good enough for anywhere from 5-12.
I do think that after this start Sheehan must be starting to feel the pressure. He's been backed strongly, the owners will give him a good chance but he won't be here at seasons end if he can'tturn things around. Our current performances aren't good enough, no pace, no passion (except from a few) and a bit too lacksadaisical by a few too. | | | |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 20:56 - Sep 27 with 1175 views | sw02sea |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 20:03 - Sep 27 by SullutaCreturned |
I think we are better than 13th. I went to Boro and wirnessed a very close game where we were poor but inly suffered a narrow defeat.
The truth is this division is very much of a muchness, there aren't standout teams this season. Not yet anyway, maybe somebody can play themselves into form but the 3 relegated teams have all been meh too.
We have a better squad this season, we need performances to reflect that and then I think we are good enough for anywhere from 5-12.
I do think that after this start Sheehan must be starting to feel the pressure. He's been backed strongly, the owners will give him a good chance but he won't be here at seasons end if he can'tturn things around. Our current performances aren't good enough, no pace, no passion (except from a few) and a bit too lacksadaisical by a few too. |
No matter how you look at Sheehan and the team, and the money the owners have put in, we’re 4 pts off relegation.
Being at the game today, we were at times, getting bullied off the ball in midfield, by what’s now the norm in the Championship, (let alone the Premiership) is more physical players.
As much as I like our new midfield players, physically isn’t one of their strongest suits.
Stamenic has to move further up the pitch to add some steel.
He is an International, and showed that today, with some sublime touches, and passes.
Another area of concern is the Injury time goals against us, at the end of either half.
It can’t be a coincidence, and will have to be addressed by the manager and his staff. | | | |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 21:55 - Sep 27 with 1071 views | Ver1tas |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 20:56 - Sep 27 by sw02sea |
No matter how you look at Sheehan and the team, and the money the owners have put in, we’re 4 pts off relegation.
Being at the game today, we were at times, getting bullied off the ball in midfield, by what’s now the norm in the Championship, (let alone the Premiership) is more physical players.
As much as I like our new midfield players, physically isn’t one of their strongest suits.
Stamenic has to move further up the pitch to add some steel.
He is an International, and showed that today, with some sublime touches, and passes.
Another area of concern is the Injury time goals against us, at the end of either half.
It can’t be a coincidence, and will have to be addressed by the manager and his staff. |
3 points behind 4th too. | | | |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 22:58 - Sep 27 with 968 views | PawelAbbott |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 20:56 - Sep 27 by sw02sea |
No matter how you look at Sheehan and the team, and the money the owners have put in, we’re 4 pts off relegation.
Being at the game today, we were at times, getting bullied off the ball in midfield, by what’s now the norm in the Championship, (let alone the Premiership) is more physical players.
As much as I like our new midfield players, physically isn’t one of their strongest suits.
Stamenic has to move further up the pitch to add some steel.
He is an International, and showed that today, with some sublime touches, and passes.
Another area of concern is the Injury time goals against us, at the end of either half.
It can’t be a coincidence, and will have to be addressed by the manager and his staff. |
We aren't the only ones conceding goals in injury time. It's happening across the league. Quite possibly because injury time is now so long. It's close to 10 minutes most matches with as much as 5 more in the first half. | | | |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 02:16 - Sep 28 with 829 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 22:58 - Sep 27 by PawelAbbott |
We aren't the only ones conceding goals in injury time. It's happening across the league. Quite possibly because injury time is now so long. It's close to 10 minutes most matches with as much as 5 more in the first half. |
Against Forest and today it was just into injury time. It’s a problem mate, four in a row is concerning. |  |
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| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 10:09 - Sep 28 with 570 views | johnlangy |
One of my buddies at the game said that Millwall have been close to the play offs the last couple of seasons so not mugs at all. Yesterday they looked like a group of players used to playing together as a team which is huge even if you don't have the best players.
We had a big turnover in the Summer and the team is not gelling at the moment yet. Does anyone know if they've had a big turnover in the summer like us ? | | | |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 10:18 - Sep 28 with 535 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 10:09 - Sep 28 by johnlangy |
One of my buddies at the game said that Millwall have been close to the play offs the last couple of seasons so not mugs at all. Yesterday they looked like a group of players used to playing together as a team which is huge even if you don't have the best players.
We had a big turnover in the Summer and the team is not gelling at the moment yet. Does anyone know if they've had a big turnover in the summer like us ? |
Lithe reason we turned the vet was bringing him better quality
We have | |
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| Swansea City v Millwall : Match day thread on 10:21 - Sep 28 with 533 views | RichardO |
Is Franco being dropped a victim of the poor relationship between Key and Ronald?
These two are getting enough space to cause opposition defences a lot more problems than they are, for me that right side is not working effectively as it should be. Incisive passing and getting the ball into the box in a controlled and quick way is not happening as well as it should be. | | | |
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