| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread 15:41 - Oct 6 with 6676 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
How about a match thread for this one?
There will be some tinkering this weekend with Oliver Whatmuff off to Spain with the England youngsters. I guess/hope he will be back for the home game against Yeovil on 18th Oct. So the cup match is timely in respect of our League progress.
Apart from that, will there be far more tinkering to rest players as we pass the quarter mark of a so far very successful season? |  | | |  |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 07:36 - Oct 7 with 1735 views | TalkingSutty |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 23:03 - Oct 6 by 442Dale |
That’s about as niche as it’s possible to be.
I’ll be furious about how we play between minutes 10 and 90 though. |
What a surprise...no mention of the start and finish of that game, it doesn't suit your narrative. Football is about winning but your defence of McNulty is becoming tiresome. It's like death by a thousand cuts everytime somebody criticises him. You're trying to defend the indefensible in relation to that Brackley game, what do the minutes between 10 and 90 have to do with the price of fish? You're now trying to pull out segments of a game to support the manger, it's ridiculous🤣🤣 |  | | |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 07:42 - Oct 7 with 1719 views | 442Dale |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 07:29 - Oct 7 by TalkingSutty |
Ignoring the blatantly obvious because you hate anybody pointing out McNulty's deficiancies. If you look back on the Bromley thread you will find that you were also very critical of his decisions during that game. It was you who brought up the game again and trying to excuse the defeat because we played well between 10 and 90 minutes is irrelevant. Why don't you highlight the crucial periods of that game at the beginning and the end. Being smug and trying to put yourself on a superior pedastal isn't working, we lost that game so can you tell me the relevance of the period of play you have highlighted? We threw away a game we had won and our manager changed the game in their favour. It was nothing to do with minutes 10-90. [Post edited 7 Oct 7:45]
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No I don’t. Because I do it myself. I’m sure the Bromley thread at the time reflects my criticisms.
I was asking for fairness then and now. As highlighted by providing the Pritchard (and other examples) of when we’ve made changes that have worked in league games. That has still to be acknowledged.
The last bit is disappointing but I’ll take it if by trying to remain fair, and that pointing out where I believe something isn’t, is seen in that way. If I was wrong, I’d hold my hands up. |  |
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| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 07:44 - Oct 7 with 1698 views | 442Dale |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 07:36 - Oct 7 by TalkingSutty |
What a surprise...no mention of the start and finish of that game, it doesn't suit your narrative. Football is about winning but your defence of McNulty is becoming tiresome. It's like death by a thousand cuts everytime somebody criticises him. You're trying to defend the indefensible in relation to that Brackley game, what do the minutes between 10 and 90 have to do with the price of fish? You're now trying to pull out segments of a game to support the manger, it's ridiculous🤣🤣 |
I’m sure if you wanted, the Bromley (not Brackley) thread could be found. Can’t be certain but I bet you’ll find some criticism there from myself.
With some fair assessment of the game and the positives as well. [Post edited 7 Oct 7:45]
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| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 07:51 - Oct 7 with 1657 views | TalkingSutty |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 07:44 - Oct 7 by 442Dale |
I’m sure if you wanted, the Bromley (not Brackley) thread could be found. Can’t be certain but I bet you’ll find some criticism there from myself.
With some fair assessment of the game and the positives as well. [Post edited 7 Oct 7:45]
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But why are you now mentioning minutes 10-90 and totally ignoring the business end of that game, the start and the finish and the final result? Are we really resorting to pulling out sections from a game to try to defend the manager or castigate fellow posters because that's how it feels and it's childish. If it's about having veiled digs at fellow posters and trying to score points then its schoolyard behaviour. It's also tiresome. [Post edited 7 Oct 7:54]
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| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 08:09 - Oct 7 with 1602 views | 442Dale |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 07:51 - Oct 7 by TalkingSutty |
But why are you now mentioning minutes 10-90 and totally ignoring the business end of that game, the start and the finish and the final result? Are we really resorting to pulling out sections from a game to try to defend the manager or castigate fellow posters because that's how it feels and it's childish. If it's about having veiled digs at fellow posters and trying to score points then its schoolyard behaviour. It's also tiresome. [Post edited 7 Oct 7:54]
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Of course it was a joke! Sorry if you don’t appreciate it. Like I said, hold my hands up when I’m wrong.
As said the criticisms of the manager that day by myself are there.
Similarly there there when we’ve made mistakes with selection. But you’d agree we’ve made changes that have worked too? | |
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| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 08:14 - Oct 7 with 1587 views | TVOS1907 |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 07:03 - Oct 7 by TalkingSutty |
Apologies, in reference to the Bromley game i thought you might have been highlighting the managers incompitance which was directly responsible for the defeat. That would have been condemned and discussed irrespective of the competition. It's irrelevant what happened in games following the defeats at Brackley and Halifax, we lost those two games so gained no advantage. Whichever way you try to slice the cake you can't get away from those statistics. They haven't rested multitude key players in any game this season and won and we all recognise the league table and have given McNulty and his coaches plenty of praise. I think the FA Cup is less important this season financially because we have the Ogdens on board, their priority will be promotion. I think the manager will be of the same mindset. His biggest fear on Saturday will probably be it finishing in a draw and going to a replay. Fixture congestion due to a poor pitch also has to be factored in. We've depended on a FA Cup run to keep the club afloat but i'm not sure if it has the same importance this year. If it does then McNulty will field his strongest team available against a good York team, we'll find out at 2pm on Saturday. I also understand the importance of a good cup run but that would probably lead to more injuries, resting of players in league games, extra fixtures, damage to a pitch that isn't fit for purpose. Another good run in the FA Trophy and a trip to Wembley would be my preference, utilise the squad. [Post edited 7 Oct 7:19]
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A good run FA Trophy might be more realistic, but it would potentially do more harm than one in the FA Cup, because:
It's not as financially beneficial.
Its rounds potentially coincide with the worst of the weather.
As we saw last season, we ended up with three extra midweek games in March/April due to our progress in it.
To reach those inconvenient levels in the FA Cup would mean us getting through to rounds three & four, which is historically unlikely for National League clubs. (In fact, if we did somehow make it to round three in the FA Cup, only one league fixture would have to be rearranged in doing so, so it wouldn't cause a fixture pile up)
Yes, we do have the Ogdens, but they didn't get where they are by tossing off opportunities the FA Cup provides.
Completely agree with you re a replay though. Nobody wants that; you might try and cadge a lift for a start... |  |
| A wise man would be able to self-analyse and perhaps understand. |
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| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 08:15 - Oct 7 with 1578 views | TVOS1907 |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 05:07 - Oct 7 by Trev |
True, we don't have the benefit of being able to finish third and be promoted automatically though. |
What happens in the FA Cup in October won't affect that unless someone like Mani gets a serious injury, but that could happen in any game. | |
| A wise man would be able to self-analyse and perhaps understand. |
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| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 08:16 - Oct 7 with 1566 views | TalkingSutty |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 08:09 - Oct 7 by 442Dale |
Of course it was a joke! Sorry if you don’t appreciate it. Like I said, hold my hands up when I’m wrong.
As said the criticisms of the manager that day by myself are there.
Similarly there there when we’ve made mistakes with selection. But you’d agree we’ve made changes that have worked too? |
Stick to kits, joke making isn't your strongest point clearly. Whatever your joke about 10-90 minutes was it went straight over my head, sorry about that🤣 | | | |
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| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 09:24 - Oct 7 with 1429 views | Trev |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 08:15 - Oct 7 by TVOS1907 |
What happens in the FA Cup in October won't affect that unless someone like Mani gets a serious injury, but that could happen in any game. |
But if we progress it won't just be October, will it? Reality is we probably need at least an extra 20 points than we did in our last promotion season. We need to be absolutely ruthless in pursuit of winning the league. | | | |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 09:35 - Oct 7 with 1402 views | D_Alien |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 09:24 - Oct 7 by Trev |
But if we progress it won't just be October, will it? Reality is we probably need at least an extra 20 points than we did in our last promotion season. We need to be absolutely ruthless in pursuit of winning the league. |
Yep, absolutely ruthless is absolutely right
This season, literally nothing else matters. Looking to excuse defeats with a "yes, but..." approach doesn't bring those points back, when we've tinkered, nor does it help us win our next game. Every game, those three points available are as precious as every other one
We can all see where we stand in the league table. We could also be further ahead, perhaps should be
Chaos theory can f*ck off, and our manager shouldn't be messing with it
The cup games we face is a great opportunity to give those not starting some vital game time for when they're needed in the league [Post edited 7 Oct 9:44]
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| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 09:44 - Oct 7 with 1379 views | MoonyDale |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 22:39 - Oct 6 by Trev |
I don't think I've ever cared less about us having a cup run. Let's get out of this league. |
I'm of the same mind as yourself, we might be in the minority though....I hate losing, ruins my week usually but not this weekend...If we are still in the hat after a win all well and good but i'll not lose any sleep if we don't progress...Getting out of this hellish league is the priority for me... |  |
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| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 09:56 - Oct 7 with 1351 views | TVOS1907 |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 09:24 - Oct 7 by Trev |
But if we progress it won't just be October, will it? Reality is we probably need at least an extra 20 points than we did in our last promotion season. We need to be absolutely ruthless in pursuit of winning the league. |
See my previous post. | |
| A wise man would be able to self-analyse and perhaps understand. |
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| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 11:13 - Oct 7 with 1207 views | BillyRudd |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 07:42 - Oct 7 by 442Dale |
No I don’t. Because I do it myself. I’m sure the Bromley thread at the time reflects my criticisms.
I was asking for fairness then and now. As highlighted by providing the Pritchard (and other examples) of when we’ve made changes that have worked in league games. That has still to be acknowledged.
The last bit is disappointing but I’ll take it if by trying to remain fair, and that pointing out where I believe something isn’t, is seen in that way. If I was wrong, I’d hold my hands up. |
Ha ha! Fairness?
Life is,nt fair and even less so football.
Whether its a team that grabs a winning goal after being battered for 90 minutes or the almighty fickleness of football crowds, I think you have the wrong hobby if you seek fairness. Am sure you are a grand chap, but your "whataboutery" arguments really grate after awhile.
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When I was young I had a sublime left foot. Good enough to play for England. Unfortunately every time I tried using my right, I ended up on my a--e. Life just is,nt FAIR! | | | |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 13:02 - Oct 7 with 1020 views | pioneer |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 08:09 - Oct 7 by 442Dale |
Of course it was a joke! Sorry if you don’t appreciate it. Like I said, hold my hands up when I’m wrong.
As said the criticisms of the manager that day by myself are there.
Similarly there there when we’ve made mistakes with selection. But you’d agree we’ve made changes that have worked too? |
Have we ever made eleven changes at once and seen it work?
Ive only been watching for 60 years so might have been before mytime. | | | |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 13:03 - Oct 7 with 1020 views | AtThePeake |
Tell you what, I've not really look at the messageboard for a while... 30 points from 12 games, away wins against two of the favourites for the league, 1 point clear at the top with two games in hand, I bet it's a much happier place than it used to be...
Wait, never mind. |  |
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| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 13:08 - Oct 7 with 1011 views | D_Alien |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 13:03 - Oct 7 by AtThePeake |
Tell you what, I've not really look at the messageboard for a while... 30 points from 12 games, away wins against two of the favourites for the league, 1 point clear at the top with two games in hand, I bet it's a much happier place than it used to be...
Wait, never mind. |
We've achieved nothing yet
When we have - and many points are being made about how to best secure success - then joy will be unbounded
Check back in around May time | |
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| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 13:14 - Oct 7 with 994 views | 442Dale |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 11:13 - Oct 7 by BillyRudd |
Ha ha! Fairness?
Life is,nt fair and even less so football.
Whether its a team that grabs a winning goal after being battered for 90 minutes or the almighty fickleness of football crowds, I think you have the wrong hobby if you seek fairness. Am sure you are a grand chap, but your "whataboutery" arguments really grate after awhile.
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When I was young I had a sublime left foot. Good enough to play for England. Unfortunately every time I tried using my right, I ended up on my a--e. Life just is,nt FAIR! |
The fairness thing was around whether people were prepare to at least acknowledge the views of others/actualities - it’s on them whether they choose to do so.
But you’re spot on. The fickleness of football crowds will never change. Predictably so. | |
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| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 13:17 - Oct 7 with 980 views | 442Dale |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 13:02 - Oct 7 by pioneer |
Have we ever made eleven changes at once and seen it work?
Ive only been watching for 60 years so might have been before mytime. |
Probably not, but who is saying that did or was a good idea?
It was referring to the other changes made in other games. They’re mentioned in the thread. | |
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| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 13:19 - Oct 7 with 968 views | AtThePeake |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 13:08 - Oct 7 by D_Alien |
We've achieved nothing yet
When we have - and many points are being made about how to best secure success - then joy will be unbounded
Check back in around May time |
If we never enjoyed watching Dale until we'd 'achieved' something it wouldn't half be a miserable existence.
I'm by no means Jim's biggest fan, I thought the Brackley debacle was a disgrace, but I think the wins at Carlisle and FGR have been fantastic. Not often we're in this kind of form, you've got to at least enjoy it to some extent while you can.
Up the table-topping Dale. | |
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| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 13:23 - Oct 7 with 940 views | D_Alien |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 13:19 - Oct 7 by AtThePeake |
If we never enjoyed watching Dale until we'd 'achieved' something it wouldn't half be a miserable existence.
I'm by no means Jim's biggest fan, I thought the Brackley debacle was a disgrace, but I think the wins at Carlisle and FGR have been fantastic. Not often we're in this kind of form, you've got to at least enjoy it to some extent while you can.
Up the table-topping Dale. |
I'm going to go all-442 here, and say "look at the praise that's being heaped upon JM, whilst we discuss the areas where further improvement can be made"
Or perhaps that's reverse-442?
Either way, the enjoyment is visible too
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| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 13:27 - Oct 7 with 927 views | 442Dale |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 13:19 - Oct 7 by AtThePeake |
If we never enjoyed watching Dale until we'd 'achieved' something it wouldn't half be a miserable existence.
I'm by no means Jim's biggest fan, I thought the Brackley debacle was a disgrace, but I think the wins at Carlisle and FGR have been fantastic. Not often we're in this kind of form, you've got to at least enjoy it to some extent while you can.
Up the table-topping Dale. |
That’s where I am too. People will see things differently and that’s to be expected.
Reminds me a bit of 09/10 when you were turning up expecting to win, especially during the winter period. In fact by the end of the season after we actually achieved promotion but blew the title, it was slightly less enjoyable! | |
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| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 13:28 - Oct 7 with 915 views | TalkingSutty |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 13:19 - Oct 7 by AtThePeake |
If we never enjoyed watching Dale until we'd 'achieved' something it wouldn't half be a miserable existence.
I'm by no means Jim's biggest fan, I thought the Brackley debacle was a disgrace, but I think the wins at Carlisle and FGR have been fantastic. Not often we're in this kind of form, you've got to at least enjoy it to some extent while you can.
Up the table-topping Dale. |
Everything's been going swimmingly this week then somebody brought up the Bromley game in the FA Cup as a way to prove a point or maybe make a joke...i'm still trying to work that one out 😀. We all know what happened in that game, so to not mention McNulty in relation to that defeat would have been ignoring the obvious. Excellent performances against Carlisle and FGR with the defeat against Halifax sandwiched in between. I actually feel as though we should now be sitting on 36 points with a 7 point lead on the chasing pack and two games in hand. That's not being greedy neither, it's pointing out how good we've been. | | | |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 13:44 - Oct 7 with 861 views | heywooddale |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 13:03 - Oct 7 by AtThePeake |
Tell you what, I've not really look at the messageboard for a while... 30 points from 12 games, away wins against two of the favourites for the league, 1 point clear at the top with two games in hand, I bet it's a much happier place than it used to be...
Wait, never mind. |
Did you come to an internet message board for a sense of joy, positivity and optimism? | | | |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 14:35 - Oct 7 with 742 views | 49thseason |
The cup v promotion situation is simple..
1. We will not win the FA cup the best outcome is a 3rd round draw v a prem club at home with a 10,000 crowd and TV coverage. Worth maybe £250k all in (thats a guess)
2. We win the League Trophy.. best outcome about £50k and another trip to Wembly (been there done that, not impressed)
3. We go 100% for promotion to the exclusion of everything else.. outcome £2m+ next season, pride restored, old rivalry's resumed, bigger crowds, better coverage... cup victories are meaningless, play the 2nd choices, do not weaken the promotion effort at any price..... |  | | |
| FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread on 14:36 - Oct 7 with 740 views | dingdangblue |
Even in 09/10 and 13/14 we didn't go to our rivals and turn them over (Bournemouth 0-4 apart). To be top with games in hand and won away at Forest Green,Carlisle and Boreham wood and not conceded a goal is dreamland quite frankly. |  |
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