| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 01:18 - Sep 29 with 244389 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Who will be watching? First one kicks off in 24 hours time.
The Democrats have pulled Joe back from his campaign trail recently to get him prepared, so hopefully it will be a decent exchange.
Unfortunately they don’t seem to have great confidence as they have spent the last month looking for any dirt they can dig up so Joe can use if he gets stuck.
It’s no coincidence that this vote influencing Facebook algorithm story is being shamelessly and inaccurately made into a race issue on the eve of the debates. So transparent and disingenuous, it’s a shame politics has come to this on this level where black people are being used in this way to score political points. I would be furious if I was them, but it does seem a lot of people are not falling for this one and calling it out for what it is.
People finally seem to be getting wise to this political race baiting which is refreshing to see.
It’s also telling that in the week of the debate they try and paint Trump as a tax evasion offender. I think that’s what they wanted the tax returns to show, they seem to have got annoyed when it turns out his tax returns were fine in accordance to what his companies profits were - but decided to run with it anyway. Any news is good news in their mind as it’s another thing Joe can use when in a tricky spot.
But I hope the discussions remain political and doesn’t turn into some form of gossip peddling reality TV episode.
Although I think there should be some kind of drinking game involved if it does turn that way, how many times Biden completely loses his thread of thought and blurts out “I mean, think about it...” you have to take a shot. 
I will be watching with great interest anyway.
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:21 - Nov 15 with 1527 views | Fireboy2 |
I cannot believe you lot are still going on about it, get a life. |  | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:24 - Nov 15 with 1520 views | Groo |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:46 - Nov 15 by A_Fans_Dad |
There has been a lot of research in to Dominion voting machines, it is really deep state and quite shocking.
I will list the findings from GP here, sorry it is so long.
Dominion serves 40% of the US market. It is in 30 states.
— The state of Texas rejected the machines.
— Smartmatic entered into an agreement with Dominion in 2009
— Smartmatic is connected to Philippine voter fraud
— Smartmatic is run by Lord Mark Malloch Brown who works for George Soros.
— Brown chairs the Boards of a number of non-profit boards including the Open Society Foundation,
— Brown chairs the Centre for Global Development.
— Open society of course is owned by George Soros
— Smartmatic partnered with DLA Piper Global
— Douglas C. Emhoff works at DLA Piper Global
— Douglass C. Emhoff is Kamala Harris’s husband
— Guess who owns Dominion? Blum Capital Partners, L.P. ***
— Guess who is on the board for the company? Richard C. Blum. ***
— Richard C. Blum is husband to Dianne Feinstein. ***
— Nancy Pelosi’s husband is also an investor
— An aide to Nancy Pelosi, Nadeam Elshami, was hired by the Dominion Voting Systems
— Dominion Voting Systems is literally listed on the Clinton Foundation website.
— “The DELIAN Project: Democracy through Technology” is the title of the page.
— Georgia Governor Kemp purchased machines after Texas and Florida rejected
— Dominion Voting has a lobbyist name Jared Thomas
— Jared Thomas was Governor Brian Kemp’s chief of staff and press secretary from 2012 to 2015
— You must remember the Feinstein-Kavanaugh-Soros connections to understand the depth
— Debra Katz (Christine Ford’s lawyer) worked for George-Soros at the Open Society Foundation.
— Debra Katz (Christine Ford’s lawyer) also worked at Project on Government Oversight (POGO).
— POGO is funded by Soros’s Open Society Foundation.
— POGO is the co-signer of the letter Diane Feinstein had on Kavanaugh.
— Kamala Harris did not prosecute OneWest Bank for their fraud
— Soros owned OneWest Bank.
— Now you know why a woman who placed 7th in her state is a VP candidate |
Fantastic conspirocy theory stuff.
Do you check under your bed every night before you go to sleep? |  |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:38 - Nov 15 with 1508 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:24 - Nov 15 by Groo |
Fantastic conspirocy theory stuff.
Do you check under your bed every night before you go to sleep? |
How are a collection of facts a "conspiracy theory" |  | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 13:55 - Nov 16 with 1398 views | Ebo |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:38 - Nov 15 by A_Fans_Dad |
How are a collection of facts a "conspiracy theory" |
Because they are not facts you utter dullard. |  |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 13:58 - Nov 16 with 1396 views | Treforys_Jack |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 13:55 - Nov 16 by Ebo |
Because they are not facts you utter dullard. |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:00 - Nov 16 with 1394 views | onehunglow |
I am not bothered .Trump ,whether he likes it or not ha been beaten ,therefore he is a loser-a term he use often to describe anyone who peaks or acts against his wishes.
I am unconvinced old Don is not averse to a little manipulation of people and facts;he's made a career out of it.
We should rejoice this festering boil is going soon.And he will.
We can worry about Mr Biden when Don is dumped out of the White House. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:47 - Nov 16 with 1353 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 13:55 - Nov 16 by Ebo |
Because they are not facts you utter dullard. |
Resorting to abuse as usual.
If you are so clever prove that they are not facts. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:34 - Nov 16 with 1339 views | DJack |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 19:49 - Nov 15 by Dr_Parnassus |
They should yes, assuming the vote was correct and democratic, which is being checked as we speak after many complaints by the public.
Is it only now you are understanding the last 10 pages? [Post edited 15 Nov 2020 19:50]
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The Electoral college was won a while back but you still pushed a false narrative for some time, so knock it off eh! |  |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:54 - Nov 16 with 1327 views | DJack |
So those affidavits Trump supporters are screaming over are based on having little or no idea of the vote counting process as they didn't undertake the training...
"A Michigan judge rejected a lawsuit by supporters of President Donald Trump seeking to block certification of the election results in Detroit and surrounding Wayne County, ruling claims that counting of ballots there was plagued by widespread fraud were groundless.
Circuit Court Judge Timothy Kenny ruled Friday that the suit failed to show why he should halt the certification or order an audit of the vote tally in Michigan’s largest city, which voted heavily in favor of President-Elect Joe Biden. Major media outlets declared Biden the winner of Michigan and its 16 electoral votes last week, and he leads the vote count by more than 146,000 votes.
Kenny analyzed several affidavits claiming widespread fraud at the TCF Center in Detroit, and criticized them as either “rife with speculation and guess-work about sinister motives,” an example of “generalized speculation,” or “not credible.” He said their expert “paled in comparison” to the city’s expert, Christopher Thomas, a former state director of elections.
“Plaintiffs rely on numerous affidavits from election challengers who paint a picture of sinister fraudulent activities occurring both openly in the TCF Center and under the cloak of darkness,” Kenny wrote in a 13-page opinion. “The challengers’ conclusions are decidedly contradicted by the highly respected” Thomas.
By not attending an Oct. 29 training session, the complaining challengers “did not have a full understanding of the TCF absent ballot tabulation process,” according to the judge.
“No formal challenges were filed,” Kenny wrote. “However, sinister, fraudulent motives were ascribed to the process and the city of Detroit. Plaintiffs’ interpretation of events is incorrect and not credible.”
The Trump campaign has filed a similar lawsuit in federal court in Michigan seeking to halt certification of the state’s results based on allegations of fraud, largely in Wayne County. It is also suing to block certification of the election results in Pennsylvania, likewise alleging fraud in Democratic-leaning cities and counties in that state.
Wayne County provided a large part of Biden’s margin, casting 587,074 votes for Biden, compared with 264,149 for Trump, according to the county’s unofficial results.
At a hearing before Kenny on Wednesday, a lawyer for the city of Detroit warned against any order that boosted Trump’s “unsubstantiated conspiratorial theories” of voter fraud. “There’s nothing to support it,” attorney David Fink argued. “But the outcome undermines the very bedrock of our democracy, the faith of the people in the democratic process.” | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:17 - Nov 16 with 1313 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:34 - Nov 16 by DJack |
The Electoral college was won a while back but you still pushed a false narrative for some time, so knock it off eh! |
How can it be won when no states have Certified their results.
The Mass Media do not make the decisions. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 19:20 - Nov 16 with 1289 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:34 - Nov 16 by DJack |
The Electoral college was won a while back but you still pushed a false narrative for some time, so knock it off eh! |
Again, that’s your lack of knowledge in American politics.
What you are talking about is projected scores. I’ve been through this with you already.
Before any electoral college points can be confirmed; they need to be certified by the individual states.
Before that can happen it needs to allow for legal challenges and ensuring that the process was democratic.
They are going through that process now. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:34 - Nov 16 with 1261 views | DJack |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 19:20 - Nov 16 by Dr_Parnassus |
Again, that’s your lack of knowledge in American politics.
What you are talking about is projected scores. I’ve been through this with you already.
Before any electoral college points can be confirmed; they need to be certified by the individual states.
Before that can happen it needs to allow for legal challenges and ensuring that the process was democratic.
They are going through that process now. |
The so called chalenges are for a couple of hundreds of votes and which will have no bearing on those states declared. The certification is confirmation of what is already known.
Hilary conceded on November 9th. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:56 - Nov 16 with 1254 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:34 - Nov 16 by DJack |
The so called chalenges are for a couple of hundreds of votes and which will have no bearing on those states declared. The certification is confirmation of what is already known.
Hilary conceded on November 9th. |
No they aren’t. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:52 - Nov 17 with 1206 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Interesting development
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 02:29 - Nov 17 with 1201 views | Dr_Parnassus |
It’s strange how these anomalies and errors don’t seem to be going the other way, doesn’t it?
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 03:24 - Nov 17 with 1197 views | Groo |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:52 - Nov 17 by Dr_Parnassus |
Interesting development
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1. This isn't Trump v Biden, its Miller v Anthony election for commission seat.
2. The discrepancies number 139, where the winner won by 10 votes.
3. The total voted was 153, 162.
4. Clark County commissioners have certified all the results of the general election except for the above. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 03:30 - Nov 17 with 1195 views | Groo |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 02:29 - Nov 17 by Dr_Parnassus |
It’s strange how these anomalies and errors don’t seem to be going the other way, doesn’t it?
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Isn't this the only error found so far? | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 04:02 - Nov 17 with 1189 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 03:30 - Nov 17 by Groo |
Isn't this the only error found so far? |
We have no idea, as I have said to you before, they don't brief users on Swansea Independent, we know when others do and not a second before.
It's not good enough though is it? 14,000 differential and 800 votes ''forgotten'' to be added for Trump. 6000 votes switched from Trump to Biden in error in one district in Michigan.
This cannot happen and I am sure we are both glad, as a minimum, a light is being shone on such incompetence for future elections. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 04:50 - Nov 17 with 1184 views | Groo |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 04:02 - Nov 17 by Dr_Parnassus |
We have no idea, as I have said to you before, they don't brief users on Swansea Independent, we know when others do and not a second before.
It's not good enough though is it? 14,000 differential and 800 votes ''forgotten'' to be added for Trump. 6000 votes switched from Trump to Biden in error in one district in Michigan.
This cannot happen and I am sure we are both glad, as a minimum, a light is being shone on such incompetence for future elections. |
No they don't brief us, which includes you, that doesn't stop you screaming fraud friom the rafters.
"In a video viewed almost 9 million times, McDaniel, who is from Michigan, says that the Antrim County clerk reported that about 6,000 votes cast for Trump were counted for Biden instead. McDaniel complained that 47 Michigan counties use the Dominion Voting Systems software and urged those counties to “closely examine their results for similar discrepancies.”
However, in an explanation titled “False statements from Ronna McDaniel have no merit,” the Michigan Department of State said the error resulted when the Antrim County clerk accidentally didn’t update the software “used to collect voting machine data and report unofficial results.”
The department said county clerks use election management system software to combine electronic totals from tabulators and submit a report of unofficial results.
"Because the clerk did not update software, even though the tabulators counted all the ballots correctly, those accurate results were not combined properly when the clerk reported unofficial results," the department said.
The department explained there are fail-safes to ensure ballots are counted accurately. Paper ballots are retained and a totals tape, showing the count for each candidate, is printed from each machine. Had the county clerk not noticed the mistake, it would have been caught when the Board of County Canvassers, made up of two Republicans and two Democrats, reviewed the vote totals from each machine with the overall county figures, according to the Department of State. "
Desperation coming in trying to prove fraud and cheating. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 04:54 - Nov 17 with 1183 views | Groo |
and yes, I hope they learn lessons, they should agree common procedures across all States that all agree with using lessons learned to improve the process.
The errors found are not the wide scale fraud we are told about but the type of errors seen every election in probably every democratic country. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 04:57 - Nov 17 with 1181 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 04:50 - Nov 17 by Groo |
No they don't brief us, which includes you, that doesn't stop you screaming fraud friom the rafters.
"In a video viewed almost 9 million times, McDaniel, who is from Michigan, says that the Antrim County clerk reported that about 6,000 votes cast for Trump were counted for Biden instead. McDaniel complained that 47 Michigan counties use the Dominion Voting Systems software and urged those counties to “closely examine their results for similar discrepancies.”
However, in an explanation titled “False statements from Ronna McDaniel have no merit,” the Michigan Department of State said the error resulted when the Antrim County clerk accidentally didn’t update the software “used to collect voting machine data and report unofficial results.”
The department said county clerks use election management system software to combine electronic totals from tabulators and submit a report of unofficial results.
"Because the clerk did not update software, even though the tabulators counted all the ballots correctly, those accurate results were not combined properly when the clerk reported unofficial results," the department said.
The department explained there are fail-safes to ensure ballots are counted accurately. Paper ballots are retained and a totals tape, showing the count for each candidate, is printed from each machine. Had the county clerk not noticed the mistake, it would have been caught when the Board of County Canvassers, made up of two Republicans and two Democrats, reviewed the vote totals from each machine with the overall county figures, according to the Department of State. "
Desperation coming in trying to prove fraud and cheating. |
Where have I screamed fraud from the top of the rafters?
You seem to have fallen into the trap of me saying things that are convenient to your viewpoint as opposed to what I actually have stated.
If you wish to point them out then happy to address them.
But I can assume you are glad a light is being shine on such ''discrepancies'' yes? | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 04:58 - Nov 17 with 1179 views | Groo |
Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said Monday that Sen. Lindsey Graham pressured him to find a way to toss out legally cast ballots in the state's close election between President Donald Trump and President-elect Joe Biden.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8955773/Georgias-GOP-secretary-state-ac | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 05:00 - Nov 17 with 1179 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 04:54 - Nov 17 by Groo |
and yes, I hope they learn lessons, they should agree common procedures across all States that all agree with using lessons learned to improve the process.
The errors found are not the wide scale fraud we are told about but the type of errors seen every election in probably every democratic country. |
They don't need to be. They just need to be enough to show what an awful election process it is when there is such partisan sides. The investigation is only just underway and the error count is in the thousands, from once single district they have audited.
I'm not sure why you believe thousands upon thousands of vote numbers are erroneous and common. You cant have much faith in democracy if you think they are acceptable and normal. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 05:02 - Nov 17 with 1178 views | Dr_Parnassus |
It's strange you take people's word as so important when it suits yet don't wish to acknowledge the same sort of words as sworn affidavits under the penalty of perjury.
I am starting to think you are not as impartial as you may wish to come across and have fallen firmly in the DJack ''any link will do, if it remotely sounds like it is for Biden'' camp.
Am I right? | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 05:10 - Nov 17 with 1171 views | Kilkennyjack |
Trump is a sore loser.
Thats it.
He will leave - and a dark period for the West will be over.
The guy is a pure fanny.
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