| Dykes sold apparently 16:06 - Aug 24 with 144279 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Rumours he's gone to Hearts. |  |
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| Dykes sold apparently on 11:59 - Aug 27 with 5484 views | stowmarketrange |
| Dykes sold apparently on 11:36 - Aug 27 by DavieQPR |
Strange how as soon as we are rumoured to be selling a player he immediately becomes twice as good as he ever was and worth loads more money. |
Wasnāt he the best on earth? |  | | |
| Dykes sold apparently on 12:06 - Aug 27 with 5344 views | BostonR |
For a player that played over 160 games for u, I cannot recall him ever tearing up any tress, being consistent or actually proofing that heās a solid Championship player. If it is a fee of circa Ā£1-1.5M weāve had their pants down and itās a job well done.
Never a Championship player and will maybe be ok in L1 - although I doubt it. No loss for us. |  | | |
| Dykes sold apparently on 12:07 - Aug 27 with 5301 views | Hoopsie |
1 - 1.5 million with several bidding clubs? Hearts? Millwall? Birmingham? Blackburn?
Funny thing is those fans of the said clubs are as clueless and bewildered as us here in this forum about the supposed āinterestā, some thought the rumours generated here!
Agent talk or pseudo-journo on social having a field day? |  |
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| Dykes sold apparently on 12:12 - Aug 27 with 5166 views | Northernr |
| Dykes sold apparently on 12:07 - Aug 27 by Hoopsie |
1 - 1.5 million with several bidding clubs? Hearts? Millwall? Birmingham? Blackburn?
Funny thing is those fans of the said clubs are as clueless and bewildered as us here in this forum about the supposed āinterestā, some thought the rumours generated here!
Agent talk or pseudo-journo on social having a field day? |
The Athletic's usually pretty reliable as long as they're not covering Forest. |  | | |
| Dykes sold apparently on 12:15 - Aug 27 with 5083 views | daveB |
| Dykes sold apparently on 12:07 - Aug 27 by Hoopsie |
1 - 1.5 million with several bidding clubs? Hearts? Millwall? Birmingham? Blackburn?
Funny thing is those fans of the said clubs are as clueless and bewildered as us here in this forum about the supposed āinterestā, some thought the rumours generated here!
Agent talk or pseudo-journo on social having a field day? |
are there several bidding clubs? I think that would drive the price up but not sure those other clubs actually came in for him |  | | |
| Dykes sold apparently on 12:22 - Aug 27 with 4958 views | WestonsuperR |
| Dykes sold apparently on 12:06 - Aug 27 by BostonR |
For a player that played over 160 games for u, I cannot recall him ever tearing up any tress, being consistent or actually proofing that heās a solid Championship player. If it is a fee of circa Ā£1-1.5M weāve had their pants down and itās a job well done.
Never a Championship player and will maybe be ok in L1 - although I doubt it. No loss for us. |
2M-2.5M seems about right, based on Championship experience, proven he can score at this level and Scotland international.
1M is well worth a gamble for Brum, surprised we couldnāt get a bit more (maybe though add onās?) |  | | |
| Dykes sold apparently on 12:26 - Aug 27 with 4885 views | SydneyRs |
| Dykes sold apparently on 11:55 - Aug 27 by Northernr |
Have to say I'm surprised Millwall haven't come back if it's only Ā£1m. They've let Nisbet go back to Scotland, they've only got two strikers and one of those has never played higher than League Two until this year, long term admirers, suits a Harris "system"... |
Agreed and I reckon he'd end up doing well there. | | | |
| Dykes sold apparently on 12:37 - Aug 27 with 4713 views | lassel |
| Dykes sold apparently on 10:48 - Aug 27 by Northernr |
It feels more like we're desperate to shift his wage rather than bothered about getting any transfer fee for him. |
Agreed!
We signed him for c.Ā£2m in 2020 and renegotiated his deal in 2023 so we should be looking at around Ā£1.625m amortised at the start of this season.
Ā£1m gives a c. Ā£625k profit on sale plus the release of his wages - if we said Ā£15k a week (no idea obviously) itās a further Ā£750k minimum freed up. So c.Ā£875k per season for FFP.
Say we signed a replacement on Ā£10k a week on a 4 year deal we could afford to pay Ā£1.5m - 2m and have it be a net zero FFP transaction.
Now obviously I donāt work for the club and have the FFP toolkit infront of me so itās all cigarette paper workings but people shouldnāt panic at āonlyā Ā£1m as thatās not how FFP works. [Post edited 27 Aug 2024 12:42]
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| Dykes sold apparently on 12:41 - Aug 27 with 4606 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Dykes sold apparently on 10:48 - Aug 27 by Northernr |
It feels more like we're desperate to shift his wage rather than bothered about getting any transfer fee for him. |
Where the financial sense in getting rid of his wages and then blowing all that and more on an inexperienced replacement?
Club need to sell a player for decent money this week: thought that was meant to be the model nowadays? |  | | |
| Dykes sold apparently on 12:47 - Aug 27 with 4495 views | Northernr |
| Dykes sold apparently on 12:41 - Aug 27 by Ned_Kennedys |
Where the financial sense in getting rid of his wages and then blowing all that and more on an inexperienced replacement?
Club need to sell a player for decent money this week: thought that was meant to be the model nowadays? |
I didn't say it was my idea or what I would do. 
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| Dykes sold apparently on 12:50 - Aug 27 with 4409 views | daveB |
| Dykes sold apparently on 12:41 - Aug 27 by Ned_Kennedys |
Where the financial sense in getting rid of his wages and then blowing all that and more on an inexperienced replacement?
Club need to sell a player for decent money this week: thought that was meant to be the model nowadays? |
wages are what kills you with FFP, transfer fees can be split over a few years but if he's one of our highest earners and not likely to be first choice it does make some sense | | | |
| Dykes sold apparently on 12:51 - Aug 27 with 4384 views | Hoopsie |
| Dykes sold apparently on 12:37 - Aug 27 by lassel |
Agreed!
We signed him for c.Ā£2m in 2020 and renegotiated his deal in 2023 so we should be looking at around Ā£1.625m amortised at the start of this season.
Ā£1m gives a c. Ā£625k profit on sale plus the release of his wages - if we said Ā£15k a week (no idea obviously) itās a further Ā£750k minimum freed up. So c.Ā£875k per season for FFP.
Say we signed a replacement on Ā£10k a week on a 4 year deal we could afford to pay Ā£1.5m - 2m and have it be a net zero FFP transaction.
Now obviously I donāt work for the club and have the FFP toolkit infront of me so itās all cigarette paper workings but people shouldnāt panic at āonlyā Ā£1m as thatās not how FFP works. [Post edited 27 Aug 2024 12:42]
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I think people think that dykes being Scotland national team forward should get us more than one million.
He got more caps (and goals, believe you me) than che adams or Lawrence shankland
But honestly I donāt know the value of adams nor shankland, however all three about the same age.
Thatās not saying a lot about Scotland but thatās not the point. | |
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| Dykes sold apparently on 12:59 - Aug 27 with 4211 views | lassel |
| Dykes sold apparently on 12:51 - Aug 27 by Hoopsie |
I think people think that dykes being Scotland national team forward should get us more than one million.
He got more caps (and goals, believe you me) than che adams or Lawrence shankland
But honestly I donāt know the value of adams nor shankland, however all three about the same age.
Thatās not saying a lot about Scotland but thatās not the point. |
Sure but itās a buyers market ultimately - we want to move on from Dykes, by all accounts heās earning decent money so you have to take what you can get.
We wouldāve only ever given him a new deal and a pay-bump last summer expecting that he was going to move on shortly and it didnāt happen so now we have to unravel that decision. If Ā£1m is all anyone is willing to ask then itās what we have to take. | | | |
| Dykes sold apparently on 13:03 - Aug 27 with 4110 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Sky Sports now saying Ā£1.5m+
Still seems low for an International striker, but if that's all we can get for a player who may not fit our preferred style of play then I suppose we take it, get his wages off the books and move on. |  |
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| Dykes sold apparently on 13:03 - Aug 27 with 4103 views | Juzzie |
| Dykes sold apparently on 12:15 - Aug 27 by daveB |
are there several bidding clubs? I think that would drive the price up but not sure those other clubs actually came in for him |
A bidding war you say....
"I have Ā£1m from Birmingham, any advance on Ā£1m?..... Hearts Ā£1m and 1p, thank you..... now Ā£1m and 2p from Birmingham again, ........ Ā£1m and 3p from Millwall...... can anyone go to Ā£1m and 4p?........" |  | | |
| Dykes sold apparently on 13:04 - Aug 27 with 4072 views | Northernr |
| Dykes sold apparently on 13:03 - Aug 27 by BrianMcCarthy |
Sky Sports now saying Ā£1.5m+
Still seems low for an International striker, but if that's all we can get for a player who may not fit our preferred style of play then I suppose we take it, get his wages off the books and move on. |
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| Dykes sold apparently on 13:09 - Aug 27 with 4000 views | derbyhoop |
Surprised Millwall didn't try harder. Ā£1-1.5m for a guy who'll be 29 soon and is, allegedly, on decent wages, isn't a bad deal for us.
Let's hope Celar and Frey stay fit. Otherwise we're reliant on Kolly & Lloyd, neither of whom have notched a league goal, as yet. |  |
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| Dykes sold apparently on 13:22 - Aug 27 with 3728 views | Myke |
| Dykes sold apparently on 13:03 - Aug 27 by BrianMcCarthy |
Sky Sports now saying Ā£1.5m+
Still seems low for an International striker, but if that's all we can get for a player who may not fit our preferred style of play then I suppose we take it, get his wages off the books and move on. |
I agree. It's kind of ironic than when we are in the hunt for a striker , they are such a precious commodity and yet when we have an established Championship (don't tell me he is not Championship standard after the quality of his goal v Sheff Utd) and International (doesn't matter what country) striker then he is not worth at least 2m. Bargain for Brum IMO. I was disappointed with the sale of Armstrong, but accepted 2.5 m was a good deal for an unproven striker. But 1m for Dykes is really poor. If he was in the final year fair enough but he's not. | | | |
| Dykes sold apparently on 13:22 - Aug 27 with 3670 views | Lblock |
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| Dykes sold apparently on 13:25 - Aug 27 with 3585 views | TK1 |
Bemused not everyone is glad about this. What is Dykes good at?
He has a poor first touch and technique. He's a very unreliable finisher. He doesn't score headers (or win many), he doesn't create assists, he's not particularly fast. Every season he's been the number 9 there are threads on here suggesting that what this team needs is a number 9 to flourish.
He's 29 next month and therefore as a CF past his prime. He cost Ā£2 million and scored 37 goals in 166 games. He's been a poor signing by any metric. To my eyes, this season's Frey looks to be better at Dykes's role - strong number 9, bullies CBs, chases balls, threat in the air, veteran - and that we need a different, more agile and much younger CF to be third choice.
A million quid for a well-paid CF who doesn't score or assist goals at Championship level and is about to hit 29 years-old is great business, surely. | | | |
| Dykes sold apparently on 13:29 - Aug 27 with 3473 views | gazza1 |
| Dykes sold apparently on 13:22 - Aug 27 by Myke |
I agree. It's kind of ironic than when we are in the hunt for a striker , they are such a precious commodity and yet when we have an established Championship (don't tell me he is not Championship standard after the quality of his goal v Sheff Utd) and International (doesn't matter what country) striker then he is not worth at least 2m. Bargain for Brum IMO. I was disappointed with the sale of Armstrong, but accepted 2.5 m was a good deal for an unproven striker. But 1m for Dykes is really poor. If he was in the final year fair enough but he's not. |
Dykes is basically 3rd choice, he is going to score sometimes and that sometime was at Sheffield. He is not good enough for a Club like ours and not a Championship standard.
Also, I think Frey looks better than last year, how good he is I reserve judgement. Cedar looked better on Saturday although he did not take a couple of opportunities. | | | |
| Dykes sold apparently on 13:42 - Aug 27 with 3195 views | NorthantsHoop |
Personally never felt we would get much for Dykes, the best chance of decent money was about 3 years ago when he got into Scotland squad and scored a couple of goals for them and a few for us, but the bottom fell out of the market due to the Covid pandemic. All round a marmite player prefer Frey think he is starting to come good and if Celar can get off the mark his confidence will be up. |  | | |
| Dykes sold apparently on 13:43 - Aug 27 with 3160 views | dm97 |
| Dykes sold apparently on 11:24 - Aug 27 by Antti_Heinola |
Agree, and goes back to what we were saying in the other thread, Clive. Suspect he won't be the last leaving this week. Whatever anyone says about departures, Sky money etc, we likely need to recoup some outlay. |
Absolutely this. Weāve spent somewhere in region of 5/6/7m this summer. There were people on here saying we had to sell to be prudent, now weāre selling at what the market clearly will offer (donāt think they would have started out at this ballpark) - I recall milwall offering something similar a while back with lots of add ons - and weāre getting in a huff about it?
How many times are we going to want our cake and eat it. Frey and Celar with maybe a cheap ish loan at weekās end is all we can afford. A club like ours canāt have 3/4 first choice strikers in the ffp era [Post edited 27 Aug 2024 13:49]
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| Dykes sold apparently on 13:48 - Aug 27 with 3045 views | ellersliehoop |
| Dykes sold apparently on 13:09 - Aug 27 by derbyhoop |
Surprised Millwall didn't try harder. Ā£1-1.5m for a guy who'll be 29 soon and is, allegedly, on decent wages, isn't a bad deal for us.
Let's hope Celar and Frey stay fit. Otherwise we're reliant on Kolly & Lloyd, neither of whom have notched a league goal, as yet. |
He's on very good money which is why they wanted him out. I'd be surprised the combined wages of Frey & Celar are much more than Dykes alone | | | |
| Dykes sold apparently on 13:50 - Aug 27 with 3009 views | wombat |
| Dykes sold apparently on 13:43 - Aug 27 by dm97 |
Absolutely this. Weāve spent somewhere in region of 5/6/7m this summer. There were people on here saying we had to sell to be prudent, now weāre selling at what the market clearly will offer (donāt think they would have started out at this ballpark) - I recall milwall offering something similar a while back with lots of add ons - and weāre getting in a huff about it?
How many times are we going to want our cake and eat it. Frey and Celar with maybe a cheap ish loan at weekās end is all we can afford. A club like ours canāt have 3/4 first choice strikers in the ffp era [Post edited 27 Aug 2024 13:49]
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daft price and stupid sale ,
celar nowhere the pce of the championship and from the games iver seen so far not ever sure he will ever get there
frey better on sat but come on its like watching your dear old dad have hi last run out for a sunday league side , if them two get us 10 goals ill be hugely supprised ,
dykes never had a run of goaldsas he never had a sun or regular decent balls into the box we finally it seems to have sorted that small problem out and we then decide to sell him , money ball at its best on this move , |  |
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