| FA Trophy semi on 18:01 - Apr 5 with 2558 views | James1980 |
| FA Trophy semi on 17:57 - Apr 5 by nordenblue |
If your aunty had balls she'd be your uncle.....you can't blame the ref or even"luck" for failing to beat the lowest ranked part time team in the competition at home, its piss poor and absolutely zero to do with "luck" |
We were lucky they hit the post in the first half. |  |
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| FA Trophy semi on 18:02 - Apr 5 with 2533 views | 442Dale |
| FA Trophy semi on 17:59 - Apr 5 by isitme |
We didn't close the cross and probably the keeper could have done better. Akinye had a good effort the phase of play before. We cannot manage the game with a one goal lead. |
Spot on. And in those fans stood watching near the corner flag in the Sandy were commenting he should have headed for the corner flag.
Imagine if he had. Might have saved all the angst and everyone would have been saying what a great time it is to be a Dale fan as we’ve seen the last couple of days. But he didn’t and we are seeing this.
As expected. |  |
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| FA Trophy semi on 18:03 - Apr 5 with 2513 views | bluevein64 |
| FA Trophy semi on 17:20 - Apr 5 by since58 |
Realistic wtf.
R.U .For real . |
He's a Biffo wind up merchant, most on here know that and ignore his (99.9% sure it's male of some species or other) posts, never mind you'll know next time 58 ! |  | | |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:05 - Apr 5 with 2446 views | Rodingdale |
| FA Trophy semi on 17:34 - Apr 5 by 442Dale |
And if we defended a last minute cross properly none of that would have been said. Did he “fire” them up to come out attacking in the second half to the point we scored twice and could have scored others? Doesnt he deserve credit for that? I’ve noted the first half, did Tees Radio note the second? The penalty was nailed on and at no stage were we hanging on. Those are the facts of today.
But we’ve been here every time after a bad result. |
I kept my counsel through the game because I feared what would happen would happen. I post win lose or draw, sometimes we win when we deserve to, often we draw when we should win, Southend, Maidenhead, Woking and sometimes we lose when we should win. Bromley was more understandable because they are a league above, today? Yet another Jim McNulty inspired opportunity missed.
You can say he’s improved since last year, yes, marginally, but as we showed v Bromley and today he just can’t get a team to perform in a big game. Barnet - a challenge, keep the game tight - nope York - stay in the game - nope . Defend a lead? No chance. You get what you get with Jim. | | | |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:08 - Apr 5 with 2387 views | 442Dale |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:05 - Apr 5 by Rodingdale |
I kept my counsel through the game because I feared what would happen would happen. I post win lose or draw, sometimes we win when we deserve to, often we draw when we should win, Southend, Maidenhead, Woking and sometimes we lose when we should win. Bromley was more understandable because they are a league above, today? Yet another Jim McNulty inspired opportunity missed.
You can say he’s improved since last year, yes, marginally, but as we showed v Bromley and today he just can’t get a team to perform in a big game. Barnet - a challenge, keep the game tight - nope York - stay in the game - nope . Defend a lead? No chance. You get what you get with Jim. |
Nobody is arguing about the failings in seeing out a game. People will note my emphasis on getting results.
But I thought it was the style of play that was boring and the main issue?
I’ll post what I see. | |
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| FA Trophy semi on 18:10 - Apr 5 with 2338 views | nordenblue |
| FA Trophy semi on 17:58 - Apr 5 by 442Dale |
I’m not loyal to him. I point out all of his faults, please read all the posts. But today was a collective failing to defend a cross in a game that was as good as won.
And my question was about today, especially the second half, how were we playing with the handbrake on? [Post edited 5 Apr 17:59]
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You didn't specify your comment was purely about today, hence my response, I do read all your posts I'd dont need a request to do so, similarly I read many of the other posters too, yet your loyalty to defend him or find some reasoning is getting pretty bizarre.
Reality is we all know the game was never "as good as won" while we've got him in charge and only a 1 goal cushion, we've got a soft underbelly have done for what feels like forever, and dont bully games nowhere near enough, its nothing new its never been addressed, while we fanny about signing lots of similar players the squad doesnt even need. | | | |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:12 - Apr 5 with 2302 views | nordenblue |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:01 - Apr 5 by James1980 |
We were lucky they hit the post in the first half. |
Or they were "unlucky" it didn't go in, depends how you look at things. | | | |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:12 - Apr 5 with 2285 views | Edindale |
Too many ifs and buts. Two steps forward and three back!
We are nowhere as good a team as some think we are and certainly not ready for a successful return to the EFL.
Should we get into the play off anything could (but is unlikely), to happen as I don't think we are suited to play off football or one off tactical battles.
Next season wont be any easier with some useful sides being relegated from the EFL and promoted from both National League North and South.
This squad is brittle and some players need to go as they are no better than part timers. We need 3-4 decent signings in key positions.
If the manager remains in charge performances need to be commensurate with our status, budget and the level of backing being received from the Ogden family. At the moment we are off the mark.
Depressing. | | | |
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| FA Trophy semi on 18:13 - Apr 5 with 2273 views | D_Alien |
| FA Trophy semi on 17:19 - Apr 5 by bluevein64 |
Same old, big crowd high expectations Dale flop ! |
There were mutterings at half time among the non-regulars (including lots of youngish parents with restless kids) about what they'd just seen
I doubt there'd be a single occasional fan who'd feel inclined to become a regular or buy a season ticket, and i'm not talking about the result
Well done Spennymoor. They kept at it and got what they deserved in the end [Post edited 5 Apr 18:26]
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| FA Trophy semi on 18:16 - Apr 5 with 2199 views | 442Dale |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:10 - Apr 5 by nordenblue |
You didn't specify your comment was purely about today, hence my response, I do read all your posts I'd dont need a request to do so, similarly I read many of the other posters too, yet your loyalty to defend him or find some reasoning is getting pretty bizarre.
Reality is we all know the game was never "as good as won" while we've got him in charge and only a 1 goal cushion, we've got a soft underbelly have done for what feels like forever, and dont bully games nowhere near enough, its nothing new its never been addressed, while we fanny about signing lots of similar players the squad doesnt even need. |
There is no loyalty or defence. Hence why I pointed out my past posts when I haven’t. I was posting about signing too many wide players 5/6 months ago. And how he was in big trouble after the Barney defeat. Happy to provide the links.
Apologies about specifying today I thought this “ the prize was MASSIVE yet we're once again presented with a car driving around with the handbrake firmly pulled up” was referring to today’s game. If not, then it’s my fault for being confused about “yet we’re once again” not meaning this afternoon | |
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| FA Trophy semi on 18:17 - Apr 5 with 2198 views | nordenblue |
| FA Trophy semi on 17:51 - Apr 5 by Cedar_Room |
I think this gets to the heart of it. It’s not just losing an important game - it’s that it comes on the back of several years of disappointments and having the club let the fans down. No-one has any goodwill left in the bank. It’s not too much to have asked we could beat a part time team from the division below in order to see us play at Wembley. The manner in which it happened was utterly predictable. This is McNulty all over - no fire, no grit or determination. Folds when pressure is applied. Not sure how anyone can be defending him after that. |
You're absolutely spot on, its boringly predictable while pur embarrassments reach new depths, its weird how some folk accept such things even more so still try to justify it. | | | |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:18 - Apr 5 with 2148 views | 442Dale |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:12 - Apr 5 by Edindale |
Too many ifs and buts. Two steps forward and three back!
We are nowhere as good a team as some think we are and certainly not ready for a successful return to the EFL.
Should we get into the play off anything could (but is unlikely), to happen as I don't think we are suited to play off football or one off tactical battles.
Next season wont be any easier with some useful sides being relegated from the EFL and promoted from both National League North and South.
This squad is brittle and some players need to go as they are no better than part timers. We need 3-4 decent signings in key positions.
If the manager remains in charge performances need to be commensurate with our status, budget and the level of backing being received from the Ogden family. At the moment we are off the mark.
Depressing. |
Good summing up of our current situation. | |
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| FA Trophy semi on 18:20 - Apr 5 with 2128 views | D_Alien |
| FA Trophy semi on 17:37 - Apr 5 by 442Dale |
One cross. What else indicated we hand the handbrake on? |
Spending serious amounts of time with aimless passing around on the edge of our own box. It's unwatchable for anyone who turns up expecting to be entertained
It doesn't matter one iota whether it can be justified or not; in terms of getting more people into the ground today was a disaster, and again i'm not talking about the result | |
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| FA Trophy semi on 18:23 - Apr 5 with 2061 views | Duckegg |
McNulty came in at an extremely tough period and has taken Dale as far as he can and now Dale need a manager to take it up another few levels. |  | | |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:24 - Apr 5 with 2054 views | Rodingdale |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:08 - Apr 5 by 442Dale |
Nobody is arguing about the failings in seeing out a game. People will note my emphasis on getting results.
But I thought it was the style of play that was boring and the main issue?
I’ll post what I see. |
Oh style is part and parcel. The excellent BBC Tees commentators noted the discontent from the home fans during the first half. They noted we were playing out from the back, but playing very narrow, only seeking outlet via Gilmour or Weston. We didn’t seek to go wide. Early in the half, they noted the high line we played and the risks it posed for us. A risk which very nearly crystallised. They saw it.
I attended the Maidenhead game with a former semi pro footballer, his first Dale game, he noted our style as looking like a training game. Passing with no end product, low intensity and aggression levels.
I post what I see, but I also triangulate views with others. An awful lot of peoples view is in line with mine.
When you look at football teams, they often reflect the personality of the manager. That’s what we have at Rochdale. | | | |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:26 - Apr 5 with 2008 views | 442Dale |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:20 - Apr 5 by D_Alien |
Spending serious amounts of time with aimless passing around on the edge of our own box. It's unwatchable for anyone who turns up expecting to be entertained
It doesn't matter one iota whether it can be justified or not; in terms of getting more people into the ground today was a disaster, and again i'm not talking about the result |
We didn’t do that much though. Completely ineffective in the last third first half and never got the ball down in midfield. Weston was especially poor. Who deserves credit for the change in the second half?
Bad game management is almost new fans will remember today. Because if we’d defended a cross would it have been a disaster?
No. | |
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| FA Trophy semi on 18:30 - Apr 5 with 1936 views | since58 |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:03 - Apr 5 by bluevein64 |
He's a Biffo wind up merchant, most on here know that and ignore his (99.9% sure it's male of some species or other) posts, never mind you'll know next time 58 ! |
Are you for real. If you have been to 5%of the games I have followed dale I would be amazed. Hence 58. Wtf is wrong with you | | | |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:32 - Apr 5 with 1880 views | Rodingdale |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:26 - Apr 5 by 442Dale |
We didn’t do that much though. Completely ineffective in the last third first half and never got the ball down in midfield. Weston was especially poor. Who deserves credit for the change in the second half?
Bad game management is almost new fans will remember today. Because if we’d defended a cross would it have been a disaster?
No. |
You are boiling the game down to failure to defend a last minute cross. We should never have been in that position. The approach to the first half cost us. Jim McNulty sets us up to play with his philosophy irrespective of the opposing team. | | | |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:32 - Apr 5 with 1880 views | DaleFan7 |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:20 - Apr 5 by D_Alien |
Spending serious amounts of time with aimless passing around on the edge of our own box. It's unwatchable for anyone who turns up expecting to be entertained
It doesn't matter one iota whether it can be justified or not; in terms of getting more people into the ground today was a disaster, and again i'm not talking about the result |
Going off recent attendances and then today's performance. We're nearer project 500 than project 5,000. | | | |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:33 - Apr 5 with 1863 views | nordenblue |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:16 - Apr 5 by 442Dale |
There is no loyalty or defence. Hence why I pointed out my past posts when I haven’t. I was posting about signing too many wide players 5/6 months ago. And how he was in big trouble after the Barney defeat. Happy to provide the links.
Apologies about specifying today I thought this “ the prize was MASSIVE yet we're once again presented with a car driving around with the handbrake firmly pulled up” was referring to today’s game. If not, then it’s my fault for being confused about “yet we’re once again” not meaning this afternoon |
"Once again", means its happened before, and again, again and.....repeat until very bored, not just today's game
You asked how was the description based on today's game, the whole first half would slot firmly into that, no need to apologise either. | | | |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:33 - Apr 5 with 1861 views | D_Alien |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:26 - Apr 5 by 442Dale |
We didn’t do that much though. Completely ineffective in the last third first half and never got the ball down in midfield. Weston was especially poor. Who deserves credit for the change in the second half?
Bad game management is almost new fans will remember today. Because if we’d defended a cross would it have been a disaster?
No. |
Yes.
Getting to Wembley would've been great, but ...as i said... new or occasional fans around me were a very long way from impressed or enthused. Failure to see that, when it's the stated objective of our owners, is something that only an "unconditional" fan would seek to defend. It's admirable in a way, but will achieve nothing in taking us forward | |
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| FA Trophy semi on 18:37 - Apr 5 with 1778 views | Dalenet |
| FA Trophy semi on 10:34 - Apr 4 by dingdangblue |
Surely the end block in the Pearl St could be sold?
Do we really need to leave a whole block empty for segregation in a completely different stand to the away stand? |
You can now see why | | | |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:38 - Apr 5 with 1763 views | 442Dale |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:33 - Apr 5 by D_Alien |
Yes.
Getting to Wembley would've been great, but ...as i said... new or occasional fans around me were a very long way from impressed or enthused. Failure to see that, when it's the stated objective of our owners, is something that only an "unconditional" fan would seek to defend. It's admirable in a way, but will achieve nothing in taking us forward |
Funny that, because there was real joy on everyone’s faces around me in the Sandy as we entered injury time. People excitedly talking about Wembley. Two more minutes and it would have been a memorable day to put alongside Darlo, Spurs and many others.
Not sure who is failing to see anything. And I certainly don’t know any unconditional fans. | |
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| FA Trophy semi on 18:39 - Apr 5 with 1733 views | nordenblue |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:32 - Apr 5 by Rodingdale |
You are boiling the game down to failure to defend a last minute cross. We should never have been in that position. The approach to the first half cost us. Jim McNulty sets us up to play with his philosophy irrespective of the opposing team. |
Whilst moaning about opposition teams "budgets" when we invariably lose to them, let's see if Jim mentions the difference in budgets post match today | | | |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:39 - Apr 5 with 1730 views | 442Dale |
| FA Trophy semi on 18:33 - Apr 5 by nordenblue |
"Once again", means its happened before, and again, again and.....repeat until very bored, not just today's game
You asked how was the description based on today's game, the whole first half would slot firmly into that, no need to apologise either. |
So it did happen today?
And in the second half? I’ve already spoken about the first half not being good enough. | |
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