| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** 13:25 - Apr 25 with 36337 views | ted_hendrix |
Well that's It last home game of the season against a Premiership side.
Wah hey and all that hullabaloo.
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| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 16:32 - Apr 26 with 3462 views | baz_qpr |
Reality was Burnley were just on another level to us. There wingers were two to three yards quicker than our full backs, there centre mids were quicker than ours and we were passive because we could not get close. As good as Colback has been in the last few games, he was torrid first half. Dunne and Paal had mares. Dembele failed to stretch them at all and poor Kolli rarely had anyone within 20 yards of him. Gane was far too quick for Madsen.
I dont think this was an effort thing it was a combo of set up, selection and Burnley being too good and free to play.
It does drive me mad though if a player is fit enough for 45 minutes and they should be first choice, start them, dont leave it until half time !.
Also Kolli cramping at 60 minutes tells you everything you need to know about our fitness levels ! |  | | |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 16:33 - Apr 26 with 3437 views | cheeseydane |
I'm not sure what sort of budget we have this summer, but with so many first teamers ooc, the foreverly injured remaining, and a possible search for a new manager, I'm sh.tting myself for next season. |  |
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| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 16:34 - Apr 26 with 3416 views | ManinBlack |
Today was the culmination of being poor at home. Only 7 wins out of 23 and our worst performance at Loftus Road saved for the final game which is one way to stop a pitch invasion at the final whistle. Burnley have walked all over us in their last two visits and this is what happens with parachute money with one team and a can't be bothered attitude of a team with no money. I see Celtic won by the same score at Dundee Utd where Celtic have the money and the rest of the league are skint like us.
Ever since money infested the game we have had plenty of home pastings, 5-0 to Swansea, 6-0 to Newcastle, 5-1 and 4-1 to Middlesbrough and no doubt others I have wiped from my memory. Today Burnley and our display made us look like an amateur club in comparison.
We only won twice in the last 12 and both were away wins and it has been away wins that has kept us up in the last three seasons as we fritter away too many points at home. Failing to win 16 home games in a season is not conducive to this club ever moving forward and I expect the same next season and for years to come as we are stuck in a doom loop of austerity and poor recruitment. |  | | |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 16:36 - Apr 26 with 3393 views | lassel |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 15:35 - Apr 26 by Ned_Kennedys |
That was all round pathetic, starting from a team selection of abject stupidity.
Fair enough if Cifuentes HAS to listen to the medics then FFS start your strongest team to try to stay in the game and take off Chair and Frey second half: instead we go with a front three of Kolli, Dembele and feckin Ashby who literally did nothing. Half time toddlers looked more threatening đ
Paal and Dunne were torn to pieces and none of our lot could even be bothered to stick a boot in: shameful.
Burnley were great but we didnât need to make it even easier for themâŠ.. |
Curse of the dreaded âloadingâ - wnkiest new trendy word in wnky modern football. Managers will always be advised to use time limited players in the second half as itâs invariably less intensive. Of course in theory with the season over it doesnât matter so much but from a management perspective im sure it would be a shitty feeling if one of your playersâ summer is spent rehabbing and trying to find a new club while injured because of a dead rubber match.
That said, Burnley tried, kinda, for 30 minutes and racked up 3 which couldâve been 5 or 6. We couldâve borrowed Gvardiol, De Bruyne and Haaland for the first 45 and still wouldâve been out of the game at half time. |  | | |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 16:45 - Apr 26 with 3314 views | joe90 |
That was an awful end to a bad season.
The team phoned it in. There is no defending that performance.
My only note worthy observation was that Varane looked like the only QPR player that cared.
Do I really want another season of this? |  | | |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 17:11 - Apr 26 with 3096 views | numptydumpty |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 16:45 - Apr 26 by joe90 |
That was an awful end to a bad season.
The team phoned it in. There is no defending that performance.
My only note worthy observation was that Varane looked like the only QPR player that cared.
Do I really want another season of this? |
The answer is no, but the likelihood is that's what it will be once more.
The only positive in recent seasons is somehow we keep avoiding relegation. [Post edited 26 Apr 17:12]
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| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 17:27 - Apr 26 with 3005 views | NorthantsHoop |
Really appalling performance today, let's face it Burnley are streets ahead of us in both their approach and how much their team cost, but some players and the manager have to take a hard look at themselves as they are just not good enough. Left when the 4th goal went in, earliest I have ever left a match in my life, this sort of performance is not acceptable, especially in front of home fans. Why are players like Frey and Chair being rested for what reason, it beggars belief, do really question Marti's tactics on what he was trying to achieve with that starting line up today. [Post edited 26 Apr 17:30]
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| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 17:32 - Apr 26 with 2906 views | Damo1962 |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 16:34 - Apr 26 by ManinBlack |
Today was the culmination of being poor at home. Only 7 wins out of 23 and our worst performance at Loftus Road saved for the final game which is one way to stop a pitch invasion at the final whistle. Burnley have walked all over us in their last two visits and this is what happens with parachute money with one team and a can't be bothered attitude of a team with no money. I see Celtic won by the same score at Dundee Utd where Celtic have the money and the rest of the league are skint like us.
Ever since money infested the game we have had plenty of home pastings, 5-0 to Swansea, 6-0 to Newcastle, 5-1 and 4-1 to Middlesbrough and no doubt others I have wiped from my memory. Today Burnley and our display made us look like an amateur club in comparison.
We only won twice in the last 12 and both were away wins and it has been away wins that has kept us up in the last three seasons as we fritter away too many points at home. Failing to win 16 home games in a season is not conducive to this club ever moving forward and I expect the same next season and for years to come as we are stuck in a doom loop of austerity and poor recruitment. |
This is the reality sadly. New owners with some idea of how to run a 2nd tier football club may reverse the decline...but no one is coming over the horizon at the moment sadly. The one thing we can and must do better in the short term, is player recruitment . This has been appalling for too long...and would be a step in the right direction. I personally do not think MC is totally invested in the job at QPR anymore, and this understandable if he is at loggerheads with Nourry. One may have to go. | | | |
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| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 17:45 - Apr 26 with 2858 views | DeanoMD |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 16:32 - Apr 26 by baz_qpr |
Reality was Burnley were just on another level to us. There wingers were two to three yards quicker than our full backs, there centre mids were quicker than ours and we were passive because we could not get close. As good as Colback has been in the last few games, he was torrid first half. Dunne and Paal had mares. Dembele failed to stretch them at all and poor Kolli rarely had anyone within 20 yards of him. Gane was far too quick for Madsen.
I dont think this was an effort thing it was a combo of set up, selection and Burnley being too good and free to play.
It does drive me mad though if a player is fit enough for 45 minutes and they should be first choice, start them, dont leave it until half time !.
Also Kolli cramping at 60 minutes tells you everything you need to know about our fitness levels ! |
A spot on summary. | | | |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 17:46 - Apr 26 with 2851 views | joolsyp |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 16:34 - Apr 26 by ManinBlack |
Today was the culmination of being poor at home. Only 7 wins out of 23 and our worst performance at Loftus Road saved for the final game which is one way to stop a pitch invasion at the final whistle. Burnley have walked all over us in their last two visits and this is what happens with parachute money with one team and a can't be bothered attitude of a team with no money. I see Celtic won by the same score at Dundee Utd where Celtic have the money and the rest of the league are skint like us.
Ever since money infested the game we have had plenty of home pastings, 5-0 to Swansea, 6-0 to Newcastle, 5-1 and 4-1 to Middlesbrough and no doubt others I have wiped from my memory. Today Burnley and our display made us look like an amateur club in comparison.
We only won twice in the last 12 and both were away wins and it has been away wins that has kept us up in the last three seasons as we fritter away too many points at home. Failing to win 16 home games in a season is not conducive to this club ever moving forward and I expect the same next season and for years to come as we are stuck in a doom loop of austerity and poor recruitment. |
Portsmouth have made Fratton Park a fortress this year, why canât we do the same? Weâve had very decent home crowds. Weâre too soft - Iâd like to see us recruit a few Ben Pearson types (although not him obviously!) in the summer. |  | | |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 18:04 - Apr 26 with 2772 views | RsinWales |
It costs me around ÂŁ100 to get to a home game. That certainty wasn't value for money today.
But I did learn something. I learned what a team passing out from the back and knocking the ball around can look like in the Championship. Quick movement, fast progression of the ball, purposeful probing and switching and players making themselves available in the right places on the pitch. Unfortunately, ...it wasn't us.
I'd like to think (in one way) that we were not trying, but my impression during the game was that Burnley was on another level. We looked shell-shocked, rather than on the beach. They are 44 points ahead of us today, and it looked like that.
The parachute payment stuff has created such an imbalance that automatic promotion places now look out of reach for most clubs, including us.
We looked very good against Leeds for 20 minutes, but they grew into the game and the disparity between the resources available to both teams became very apparent. I almost laughed at the quality of players they were able to bring on.
This was a very sobering day for me, with two hours 'on me tod' getting home to get (non-clinically) depressed about it : ( | | | |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 18:09 - Apr 26 with 2700 views | Damo1962 |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 18:04 - Apr 26 by RsinWales |
It costs me around ÂŁ100 to get to a home game. That certainty wasn't value for money today.
But I did learn something. I learned what a team passing out from the back and knocking the ball around can look like in the Championship. Quick movement, fast progression of the ball, purposeful probing and switching and players making themselves available in the right places on the pitch. Unfortunately, ...it wasn't us.
I'd like to think (in one way) that we were not trying, but my impression during the game was that Burnley was on another level. We looked shell-shocked, rather than on the beach. They are 44 points ahead of us today, and it looked like that.
The parachute payment stuff has created such an imbalance that automatic promotion places now look out of reach for most clubs, including us.
We looked very good against Leeds for 20 minutes, but they grew into the game and the disparity between the resources available to both teams became very apparent. I almost laughed at the quality of players they were able to bring on.
This was a very sobering day for me, with two hours 'on me tod' getting home to get (non-clinically) depressed about it : ( |
Perfect assessment fella. You can have a nice break from it all soonđđ [Post edited 26 Apr 18:16]
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| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 18:13 - Apr 26 with 2707 views | mart_Goblin |
Left a bit speechless by that today .
Pathetic from everyone involved . Everybody on and off the pitch.
Final straw was us watching our players watch them celebrate and overly milk it âŠon our pitch.
Might as well have thrown shit at us as we left the stadium just to put a tin hat on it .
Things do need to to change . But who and what will rage on into the void .
Ya Ya Toure in the building today .
Just saying . [Post edited 26 Apr 18:14]
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| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 18:20 - Apr 26 with 2598 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 18:13 - Apr 26 by mart_Goblin |
Left a bit speechless by that today .
Pathetic from everyone involved . Everybody on and off the pitch.
Final straw was us watching our players watch them celebrate and overly milk it âŠon our pitch.
Might as well have thrown shit at us as we left the stadium just to put a tin hat on it .
Things do need to to change . But who and what will rage on into the void .
Ya Ya Toure in the building today .
Just saying . [Post edited 26 Apr 18:14]
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| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 19:07 - Apr 26 with 2430 views | E17hoop |
The gap between them and us can be summed up in terms of value of players. Their keeper cost them ÂŁ17.3m - probably more than the entire value of our first team.
Best team performance I've seen at our place for a long long time - they were outstanding. |  |
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| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 19:16 - Apr 26 with 2373 views | Northolt_Rs |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 18:04 - Apr 26 by RsinWales |
It costs me around ÂŁ100 to get to a home game. That certainty wasn't value for money today.
But I did learn something. I learned what a team passing out from the back and knocking the ball around can look like in the Championship. Quick movement, fast progression of the ball, purposeful probing and switching and players making themselves available in the right places on the pitch. Unfortunately, ...it wasn't us.
I'd like to think (in one way) that we were not trying, but my impression during the game was that Burnley was on another level. We looked shell-shocked, rather than on the beach. They are 44 points ahead of us today, and it looked like that.
The parachute payment stuff has created such an imbalance that automatic promotion places now look out of reach for most clubs, including us.
We looked very good against Leeds for 20 minutes, but they grew into the game and the disparity between the resources available to both teams became very apparent. I almost laughed at the quality of players they were able to bring on.
This was a very sobering day for me, with two hours 'on me tod' getting home to get (non-clinically) depressed about it : ( |
Itâs only a gameâŠ.đ« |  |
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| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 19:21 - Apr 26 with 2335 views | RsinWales |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 19:16 - Apr 26 by Northolt_Rs |
Itâs only a gameâŠ.đ« |
You are correct, sir. And there are 46 more to come next season ; ) | | | |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 19:34 - Apr 26 with 2231 views | joe90 |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 17:11 - Apr 26 by numptydumpty |
The answer is no, but the likelihood is that's what it will be once more.
The only positive in recent seasons is somehow we keep avoiding relegation. [Post edited 26 Apr 17:12]
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I know it was a stupid question (written in the heat of the moment), none of us want another season of that. Youâre right staying up has been a positive.
The thing that really gets me is not that we lost, but how we lost, and that has nothing to do with money/better players etc. The players did not want to compete. Two examples that stuck in my mind - first half, Varane carries the ball through midfield with a clear pass in front of him to Kolli who refuses to show for it. Second half - Burnley counter and Edwardâs is caught between two players whilst Paal just casually jogs back, zero sense of urgency. I wonât be watching the highlights, but Iâm sure thereâll be plenty more examples.
It would have been possible to counter Burnleyâs movements by playing a higher defensive line for example. We wouldnât have necessarily won the game or even drawn, by doing this, but Iâm sure we wouldnât have lost 5-0, and it would have at least shown that we werenât just there for the taking.
I can accept all the many issues of this club, but I canât accept a lack of effort and basic application. Which is what I sat through this afternoon. What I watched today wasnât on Marti or Nourry or the medical man in Dubai, it was on the 11 players on the pitch.
Lastly, did anyone stay to the end? What was the mood like when the players came back out? [Post edited 26 Apr 19:35]
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| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 19:57 - Apr 26 with 2163 views | StreathamRanger |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 19:34 - Apr 26 by joe90 |
I know it was a stupid question (written in the heat of the moment), none of us want another season of that. Youâre right staying up has been a positive.
The thing that really gets me is not that we lost, but how we lost, and that has nothing to do with money/better players etc. The players did not want to compete. Two examples that stuck in my mind - first half, Varane carries the ball through midfield with a clear pass in front of him to Kolli who refuses to show for it. Second half - Burnley counter and Edwardâs is caught between two players whilst Paal just casually jogs back, zero sense of urgency. I wonât be watching the highlights, but Iâm sure thereâll be plenty more examples.
It would have been possible to counter Burnleyâs movements by playing a higher defensive line for example. We wouldnât have necessarily won the game or even drawn, by doing this, but Iâm sure we wouldnât have lost 5-0, and it would have at least shown that we werenât just there for the taking.
I can accept all the many issues of this club, but I canât accept a lack of effort and basic application. Which is what I sat through this afternoon. What I watched today wasnât on Marti or Nourry or the medical man in Dubai, it was on the 11 players on the pitch.
Lastly, did anyone stay to the end? What was the mood like when the players came back out? [Post edited 26 Apr 19:35]
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We stayed until the end. It was muted. Dunne was the last one out. Varane stayed out a long time too signing shirts and chatting to fans. Edwards ran in to changing room and got all his spare boots and handed them out to kids in the crowd. Today's game was terrible but in general the players are a good bunch. Some aren't quite good enough but don't see too many egos out there. We could do with a couple more nasty characters next year. | | | |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 20:13 - Apr 26 with 2106 views | Ghost_on_the_Westway |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 19:07 - Apr 26 by E17hoop |
The gap between them and us can be summed up in terms of value of players. Their keeper cost them ÂŁ17.3m - probably more than the entire value of our first team.
Best team performance I've seen at our place for a long long time - they were outstanding. |
Yes they were very good. That really could have been 8 or 9. Even the goalie played like Franz Beckenbauer.
But then they were only really playing against 8 men - Madsen, Dembele and Ashby all should have been hooked after 20 mins.
Ashby - 0-4 down at home and tries a flashy back heel. Jesus Fckin Christ. |  | | |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 21:34 - Apr 26 with 1856 views | nix |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 20:13 - Apr 26 by Ghost_on_the_Westway |
Yes they were very good. That really could have been 8 or 9. Even the goalie played like Franz Beckenbauer.
But then they were only really playing against 8 men - Madsen, Dembele and Ashby all should have been hooked after 20 mins.
Ashby - 0-4 down at home and tries a flashy back heel. Jesus Fckin Christ. |
I can forgive players for not being at the level. Football is tough and there's a massive gulf between the top and bottom Championship players. But Ashby annoys me because he has that Todd Kane quality of thinking he's better than he is. He hasn't earned the right to be asking Marti why he was subbed - as he did during the Swansea match. He's not Sam Field or Jimmy Dunne. He's a very average youth player on loan. He should be humble, run his bollocks off and not try the theatrics instead of jogging after balls and then pulling up early.
And as for fans' favourite Colback, he's brain dead. Fancy when called over by the ref, who's obviously giving him a final warning argues back and gets booked. When we've got no other DMs on the bench. So he can't really tackle after that. Brain dead. Mind you he didn't manage one tackle all match and only won two duels.
Don't want to see either of them at LR next season. |  | | |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 21:54 - Apr 26 with 1763 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 21:34 - Apr 26 by nix |
I can forgive players for not being at the level. Football is tough and there's a massive gulf between the top and bottom Championship players. But Ashby annoys me because he has that Todd Kane quality of thinking he's better than he is. He hasn't earned the right to be asking Marti why he was subbed - as he did during the Swansea match. He's not Sam Field or Jimmy Dunne. He's a very average youth player on loan. He should be humble, run his bollocks off and not try the theatrics instead of jogging after balls and then pulling up early.
And as for fans' favourite Colback, he's brain dead. Fancy when called over by the ref, who's obviously giving him a final warning argues back and gets booked. When we've got no other DMs on the bench. So he can't really tackle after that. Brain dead. Mind you he didn't manage one tackle all match and only won two duels.
Don't want to see either of them at LR next season. |
Not sure why youâre digging Ashby and Colback out after today: as bad as they were they were still a lot better than Kolli, Dembele, Paal, Madsen and Dunne. |  | | |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 22:12 - Apr 26 with 1680 views | nix |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 21:54 - Apr 26 by Ned_Kennedys |
Not sure why youâre digging Ashby and Colback out after today: as bad as they were they were still a lot better than Kolli, Dembele, Paal, Madsen and Dunne. |
I even said why. It's not ability or how they played today it's brain dead attitudes. Kolli also straddled the tight rope of not looking like he had to do more than waft about.
I don't know how you could say Colback and Ashby played much better than anyone. Colback didn't manage one tackle in the whole match, won only 2 duels and still managed to get booked. He's supposed to be a senior, experienced player. Ashby persistently tries stupid flicks despite them hardly ever coming off. Despite being an actual RB he hardly provided any cover for Dunne.
Dunne did eight clearances, four tackles, a blocked shot and a clearance off the line. | | | |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 22:57 - Apr 26 with 1521 views | TheChef |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 15:37 - Apr 26 by YokelR |
Second game in a row he's picked players in positions to help the opposition. Think he's making a point to Nourry you bought these players so I'll pick them and see how that goes?
We had 4 yellows, I'd have said at half time they're taking the pi55 everyone kick someone up in the air if you get a yellow - fine.
Not us we're too tippy tappy. Defend? Not my job.
I'd keep Marti but owners have to decide back Nourry or back Marti we plainly can't keep them both.
I don't want the Eze money if its going to buy more Masdens and Dembeles thanks. |
It did feel he was making a point starting Dembele and Msdsen, and then taking them off at half time.
Of course he might just have got the team selection wrong! |  |
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| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 07:30 - Apr 27 with 1142 views | QPROslo |
| **BURNLEY MATCH THREAD** on 22:12 - Apr 26 by nix |
I even said why. It's not ability or how they played today it's brain dead attitudes. Kolli also straddled the tight rope of not looking like he had to do more than waft about.
I don't know how you could say Colback and Ashby played much better than anyone. Colback didn't manage one tackle in the whole match, won only 2 duels and still managed to get booked. He's supposed to be a senior, experienced player. Ashby persistently tries stupid flicks despite them hardly ever coming off. Despite being an actual RB he hardly provided any cover for Dunne.
Dunne did eight clearances, four tackles, a blocked shot and a clearance off the line. |
Colback had our best shot on target of the game. It took a top class save to keep it out, you don't mention it. He had a poor game 1st half I agree but was a lot better as the game went on. | | | |
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