| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 19:14 - Apr 30 with 4692 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 17:22 - Apr 30 by EastR |
Yeah right, the club is so determined to be more resilient and less reliant on individuals it employs people on different continents to take care of player fitness.
“Crucial for long term stability” that.
Apparently too “They won’t, though, tolerate anything except total commitment to the cause”. |
Exactly, EastR
TedderS also says that this article could almost be cut and paste from a club press-release. Wouldn't be at all surprised if it was.
It's stirring stuff. It's bombastic. It's inspiring. It's nonsense, but God damn it! it's inspiring. It damn well should have orchestral music and flags.
Neither would I be surprised if it was placed.
Just like the leak to Sky Sports was strategic by someone, this may well be too.
There's clearly a PR war going on right now, and the problem with that for Nourry is that when Cifuentes is gone, Nourry will still be here to face the truth.
And, in the QPR family, the truth always comes out. |  |
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| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 19:16 - Apr 30 with 4660 views | Northernr |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 17:22 - Apr 30 by EastR |
Yeah right, the club is so determined to be more resilient and less reliant on individuals it employs people on different continents to take care of player fitness.
“Crucial for long term stability” that.
Apparently too “They won’t, though, tolerate anything except total commitment to the cause”. |
Unless you’re tight with the CEO in which case you can also live in Dubai and work for the Brooklyn nets. Shameless. |  | | |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 20:14 - Apr 30 with 4384 views | PunteR |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 10:18 - Apr 30 by BostonR |
As always Clive - on point and reflects how a lot of the fanbase feel right now. I was fortunate to be able to watch that amazing 75/76 team under Sexton. I’m in my 60’s now and just feel so divorced from the club and how it’s being run.
I recall being at Coventry on the last day of last season and came away thinking the club have a special coaching talent and can we take care of him? The answer is no and I suspect whoever comes through the revolving door will be treated in a similar way.
What’s more worrying and your spot-on in calling it out,is do we trust this moronic leadership to get it right? I think not.
And the balls of the club to post season-ticket renewals this morning-you really couldn’t make this shit up if you tried.
I wish Marti well. |
"And the balls of the club to post season-ticket renewals this morning-you really couldn’t make this shit up if you tried."
It could have been done with good intensions mate, after all, a lot of people working within the club , in the are fans too and want the best for us. |  |
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| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 20:30 - Apr 30 with 4307 views | ChrisNW6 |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 20:14 - Apr 30 by PunteR |
"And the balls of the club to post season-ticket renewals this morning-you really couldn’t make this shit up if you tried."
It could have been done with good intensions mate, after all, a lot of people working within the club , in the are fans too and want the best for us. |
Not sure we can blame the club for that, all the various deadlines for early bird discounts and QPR cash are planned. If they didn't post, you will have complaints people missed today's renewal deadline. |  | | |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 21:57 - Apr 30 with 3925 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 18:13 - Apr 30 by francisbowles |
Are you still living in this pretend world where football people are going to open up and say something interesting to the media.
If he had he would have ended up on gardening leave a long time ago. |
The difference between my 'pretend' world and yours is that mine demands authenticity and accountability while, apparently, yours licences these shysters. [Post edited 30 Apr 22:35]
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| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 22:29 - Apr 30 with 3798 views | A40Bosh |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 18:02 - Apr 30 by mart_Goblin |
South Ruislip ? 😄 |
Yep! |  |
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| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 23:27 - Apr 30 with 3582 views | davman |
All I can say is *sigh*.
...and
ARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!
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| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 23:29 - Apr 30 with 3586 views | mart_Goblin |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 22:29 - Apr 30 by A40Bosh |
Yep! |
Ha ha . Likewise . I’ve had a saunter round 😄 |  | | |
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| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 00:16 - May 1 with 3409 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 23:29 - Apr 30 by mart_Goblin |
Ha ha . Likewise . I’ve had a saunter round 😄 |
Well done you for that tremendous effort. What do you bring to the table again? | |
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| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 13:10 - May 1 with 2690 views | francisbowles |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 21:57 - Apr 30 by stainrods_elbow |
The difference between my 'pretend' world and yours is that mine demands authenticity and accountability while, apparently, yours licences these shysters. [Post edited 30 Apr 22:35]
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No, you dream of those qualities but banging on and on about the lack of them in interviews, isn't going to change anything in the real world. | | | |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 14:03 - May 1 with 2562 views | richpr |
I think the situation is this....
Obviously MC and CN have fallen out big time.
MC via his agent has been talking to other clubs
By doing this, he is potentially in breach of contract. At the very least, CN has something on MC which they believe means MC is in breach of contract.
CN puts MC on gardening leave so as to ensure the following 2 outcomes...
1. If another club comes in for MC, he is still in contract to QPR and will have to negotiate compensation
2. If nobody comes in for him, Qpr can terminate his contract without compensating him. QPR could even sue MC for breach
The timing of this is critical because any clubs wanting MC will prefer to get him so he can start in the off season with a full pre-season and transfer window.
Best case scenario is 1, worst case scenario is 2.
Personally, I think this was a sensible move by QPR given that the relationship between MC and the board had irretrievably broken down.
CN is probably well versed in this sort of thing where the employer plays hardball with the employee | | | |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 14:06 - May 1 with 2538 views | Northernr |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 14:03 - May 1 by richpr |
I think the situation is this....
Obviously MC and CN have fallen out big time.
MC via his agent has been talking to other clubs
By doing this, he is potentially in breach of contract. At the very least, CN has something on MC which they believe means MC is in breach of contract.
CN puts MC on gardening leave so as to ensure the following 2 outcomes...
1. If another club comes in for MC, he is still in contract to QPR and will have to negotiate compensation
2. If nobody comes in for him, Qpr can terminate his contract without compensating him. QPR could even sue MC for breach
The timing of this is critical because any clubs wanting MC will prefer to get him so he can start in the off season with a full pre-season and transfer window.
Best case scenario is 1, worst case scenario is 2.
Personally, I think this was a sensible move by QPR given that the relationship between MC and the board had irretrievably broken down.
CN is probably well versed in this sort of thing where the employer plays hardball with the employee |
Because of all the experience he's got as both employer and employee? | | | |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 14:18 - May 1 with 2476 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 14:06 - May 1 by Northernr |
Because of all the experience he's got as both employer and employee? |
You think Cifuentes was placed on garden leave without the club taking legal advice first? |  | | |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 14:23 - May 1 with 2455 views | Northernr |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 14:18 - May 1 by Ned_Kennedys |
You think Cifuentes was placed on garden leave without the club taking legal advice first? |
That's neither what I said, nor what the sentence I was replying to said. | | | |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 14:41 - May 1 with 2371 views | BostonR |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 14:03 - May 1 by richpr |
I think the situation is this....
Obviously MC and CN have fallen out big time.
MC via his agent has been talking to other clubs
By doing this, he is potentially in breach of contract. At the very least, CN has something on MC which they believe means MC is in breach of contract.
CN puts MC on gardening leave so as to ensure the following 2 outcomes...
1. If another club comes in for MC, he is still in contract to QPR and will have to negotiate compensation
2. If nobody comes in for him, Qpr can terminate his contract without compensating him. QPR could even sue MC for breach
The timing of this is critical because any clubs wanting MC will prefer to get him so he can start in the off season with a full pre-season and transfer window.
Best case scenario is 1, worst case scenario is 2.
Personally, I think this was a sensible move by QPR given that the relationship between MC and the board had irretrievably broken down.
CN is probably well versed in this sort of thing where the employer plays hardball with the employee |
Where on his CV does it state that he had a senior leadership role dealing with a complex multi-layered organisation? |  | | |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 14:47 - May 1 with 2333 views | wombat |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 14:41 - May 1 by BostonR |
Where on his CV does it state that he had a senior leadership role dealing with a complex multi-layered organisation? |
his cv is fairly sparse in employment history of any kind ,
run a website when he was kid french football
went to his mates company when left uni they had about 6 people working for them not sure on involvement there .prob spreadsheets and Finding physios for spanish teams
then finds himself CEO/DOF at rangers , thats one hell of a powerpoint presentation hes dont for the club . |  |
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| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 15:12 - May 1 with 2258 views | TheChef |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 14:03 - May 1 by richpr |
I think the situation is this....
Obviously MC and CN have fallen out big time.
MC via his agent has been talking to other clubs
By doing this, he is potentially in breach of contract. At the very least, CN has something on MC which they believe means MC is in breach of contract.
CN puts MC on gardening leave so as to ensure the following 2 outcomes...
1. If another club comes in for MC, he is still in contract to QPR and will have to negotiate compensation
2. If nobody comes in for him, Qpr can terminate his contract without compensating him. QPR could even sue MC for breach
The timing of this is critical because any clubs wanting MC will prefer to get him so he can start in the off season with a full pre-season and transfer window.
Best case scenario is 1, worst case scenario is 2.
Personally, I think this was a sensible move by QPR given that the relationship between MC and the board had irretrievably broken down.
CN is probably well versed in this sort of thing where the employer plays hardball with the employee |
2. If nobody comes in for him, Qpr can terminate his contract without compensating him. QPR could even sue MC for breach
Well if that is case then the garden leave decision would make more sense. But then how long does the club wait before doing that? |  |
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| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 15:18 - May 1 with 2231 views | kensalriser |
Have we properly stuffed the information vacuum yet, or is there a bit more room? |  |
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| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 17:10 - May 1 with 2053 views | richpr |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 15:12 - May 1 by TheChef |
2. If nobody comes in for him, Qpr can terminate his contract without compensating him. QPR could even sue MC for breach
Well if that is case then the garden leave decision would make more sense. But then how long does the club wait before doing that? |
That's the gamble. If nobody comes in for him, MC's career will stagnate until he or his agent buy out his contract. Could be a protracted legal battle ahead. Hopefully, some club will come in for him. I cant imagine that MC saw this coming. MC's agent has well and truly f*ckd up. | | | |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 17:20 - May 1 with 2015 views | silverbirch |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 14:03 - May 1 by richpr |
I think the situation is this....
Obviously MC and CN have fallen out big time.
MC via his agent has been talking to other clubs
By doing this, he is potentially in breach of contract. At the very least, CN has something on MC which they believe means MC is in breach of contract.
CN puts MC on gardening leave so as to ensure the following 2 outcomes...
1. If another club comes in for MC, he is still in contract to QPR and will have to negotiate compensation
2. If nobody comes in for him, Qpr can terminate his contract without compensating him. QPR could even sue MC for breach
The timing of this is critical because any clubs wanting MC will prefer to get him so he can start in the off season with a full pre-season and transfer window.
Best case scenario is 1, worst case scenario is 2.
Personally, I think this was a sensible move by QPR given that the relationship between MC and the board had irretrievably broken down.
CN is probably well versed in this sort of thing where the employer plays hardball with the employee |
Interesting.
Has a club ever sued a manager for breach of contract?
Or sacked one without paying up the contract (unless gross misconduct was involved)? | | | |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 17:49 - May 1 with 1934 views | Northernr |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 17:20 - May 1 by silverbirch |
Interesting.
Has a club ever sued a manager for breach of contract?
Or sacked one without paying up the contract (unless gross misconduct was involved)? |
Didn't Simon Jordan/Palace take Dowie to court over his shift to Charlton? They sent a lawyer into his first press conference to serve him with papers if I recall. | | | |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 17:50 - May 1 with 1933 views | lassel |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 17:10 - May 1 by richpr |
That's the gamble. If nobody comes in for him, MC's career will stagnate until he or his agent buy out his contract. Could be a protracted legal battle ahead. Hopefully, some club will come in for him. I cant imagine that MC saw this coming. MC's agent has well and truly f*ckd up. |
MC will be paid up by the club in the short term future. | | | |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 22:35 - May 1 with 1629 views | silverbirch |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 17:49 - May 1 by Northernr |
Didn't Simon Jordan/Palace take Dowie to court over his shift to Charlton? They sent a lawyer into his first press conference to serve him with papers if I recall. |
Googled…As per sky sports…
Jordan alleged that he wavered a £1million compensation clause because Dowie had informed him that he wanted to quit the capital in order to return north, where his family reside.
Dowie paid Jordan’s costs but no damages. [Post edited 1 May 22:36]
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| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 23:06 - May 1 with 1505 views | mart_Goblin |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 00:16 - May 1 by stainrods_elbow |
Well done you for that tremendous effort. What do you bring to the table again? |
Ha ha . Bit harsh 😄 | | | |
| Cifuentes placed on garden leave as reign that promised so much unravels on 23:43 - May 1 with 1397 views | itsbiga |
Sunderland will batter us like Burnley did now. | |
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