| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT 10:01 - May 2 with 14596 views | johnlangy |
This possibilty increases by the day. And certainly did last night. But something was said by a Reform person this morning that if they were to become the next government could result in a monumental constitutional crisis.
Imagine at the next GE Reform were to stand on a policy of leaving the ECHR. Then they are elected and produce legislation to that effect. They get it through the House of Commons and it goes to the House of Lords. There is not one Reform peer in the HOL and the vast bulk of the 850 or so peers is made up of Labour/Conservative/Lib Dem etc etc peers who would fight tooth and nail to scupper the plan.
I wonder what the public's reaction would be at seeing the 'establishment' preventing something happening that they had voted for. It is certainly something Reform would try to do and it would be refreshing in an odd sort of way (i'm not a Reform voter) to see a party actually do what they said they would do in their manifesto.
And there's the crisis. You could argue that this would be the best argument for scrapping the HOL all together. Because in this instance many would argue that democracy is broken. Others would say the HOL is part of our democracy.
Then the question is, does democracy belong to the 70 million of us or the 850 of them. |  | | |  |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 21:48 - Jun 26 with 374 views | Kilkennyjack |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 18:32 - Jun 26 by SullutaCreturned |
You can't be certain that independents wouldn't agree on anything. One bonus would be a fgree vote for all and maybe they'd actually vote the way the majority of their constituents would like too.
Actually being from an area and having that local experience means they serve that aeea better too.
The way Welsh Labour have made it, we could end up with any old Tom, Dick or Harriet from anywhere, what will they know about local issues? |
Independents in Wales tend to be Tories who are tying to hide they are a Tory. |  |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 23:09 - Jun 26 with 312 views | majorraglan |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 21:46 - Jun 26 by Kilkennyjack |
Exactly.
Vote Reform. Vote amateur hour.
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Some don’t want 16 year olds to have a vote because they aren’t perceived to be mature, but here we’ve got a kid who’s just 2 years older in charge of a council with a £650m budget. 🤷
Not sure what exactly is going on up there, but it’s not a glowing endorsement of Reform as a functioning party of government. | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 06:32 - Jun 27 with 273 views | Scotia |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 23:09 - Jun 26 by majorraglan |
Some don’t want 16 year olds to have a vote because they aren’t perceived to be mature, but here we’ve got a kid who’s just 2 years older in charge of a council with a £650m budget. 🤷
Not sure what exactly is going on up there, but it’s not a glowing endorsement of Reform as a functioning party of government. |
One man who buggered off to the Carribbean when he should have been working and another who hasn't held a single local surgery and has been to the States half of the times he's been to Clacton.
Is this the change people want? | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 15:37 - Jun 27 with 148 views | SullutaCreturned |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 21:48 - Jun 26 by Kilkennyjack |
Independents in Wales tend to be Tories who are tying to hide they are a Tory. |
And you know this how? Have you direct evidence? Or is that just personal opinion?
The independent candidate I voted for 2 last time had been a Labour voter, the time before that they had been Green.
It'd be ironic in a country that "never votes Tory" if a majority of indy candidates were tories, don't you think?
I'm not saying you're wrong but is there evidence? | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 15:44 - Jun 27 with 143 views | Whiterockin |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 15:37 - Jun 27 by SullutaCreturned |
And you know this how? Have you direct evidence? Or is that just personal opinion?
The independent candidate I voted for 2 last time had been a Labour voter, the time before that they had been Green.
It'd be ironic in a country that "never votes Tory" if a majority of indy candidates were tories, don't you think?
I'm not saying you're wrong but is there evidence? |
Cat what is the Senedd election process for independents next time. Is it true that each party puts forward its candidates for each seat and if the party wins one candidate in a seat, the top of the list is elected, win two and the top two for the party are elected and so on down the list. How would that work for independents. The GE is a totally different process. |  | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 15:57 - Jun 27 with 126 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Wales will just have to continue with the Brexit process. People say things are worse with less jobs and a shortage of labour increasing food prices. The country is now in a depressed post Brexit and Covid state.
The population has not figured out the link to Brexit and the Reform role in this disaster. A spell of Reform in Government will remedy that I would think. |  |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 16:03 - Jun 27 with 127 views | SullutaCreturned |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 15:44 - Jun 27 by Whiterockin |
Cat what is the Senedd election process for independents next time. Is it true that each party puts forward its candidates for each seat and if the party wins one candidate in a seat, the top of the list is elected, win two and the top two for the party are elected and so on down the list. How would that work for independents. The GE is a totally different process. |
I don't know. I rhought you just voted for a party and they chose who got the seat but honestly when that was mentioned I stopped looking because it is a blatant attack on representative democracy. WE should choose who gets our vote, not the party.
it is my stated aim to vote for Plaid next time though. Welsh politics os turning distinctly anto democracy and the longer Labour control the Senedd the worse it's gonna get. | | | |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 16:08 - Jun 27 with 118 views | Whiterockin |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 16:03 - Jun 27 by SullutaCreturned |
I don't know. I rhought you just voted for a party and they chose who got the seat but honestly when that was mentioned I stopped looking because it is a blatant attack on representative democracy. WE should choose who gets our vote, not the party.
it is my stated aim to vote for Plaid next time though. Welsh politics os turning distinctly anto democracy and the longer Labour control the Senedd the worse it's gonna get. |
I'm not ruling out voting for an independent, depending on who the candidates are. But I am yet to learn the process, I understand it if you are voting for a party but not an independent. | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 19:31 - Jun 27 with 72 views | SullutaCreturned |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 16:08 - Jun 27 by Whiterockin |
I'm not ruling out voting for an independent, depending on who the candidates are. But I am yet to learn the process, I understand it if you are voting for a party but not an independent. |
It's just a name on the ballot isn't it? It may just say
labour
Tory
John Doe
Liberal dem
jane doe
etc | | | |
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