| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT 10:01 - May 2 with 14758 views | johnlangy |
This possibilty increases by the day. And certainly did last night. But something was said by a Reform person this morning that if they were to become the next government could result in a monumental constitutional crisis.
Imagine at the next GE Reform were to stand on a policy of leaving the ECHR. Then they are elected and produce legislation to that effect. They get it through the House of Commons and it goes to the House of Lords. There is not one Reform peer in the HOL and the vast bulk of the 850 or so peers is made up of Labour/Conservative/Lib Dem etc etc peers who would fight tooth and nail to scupper the plan.
I wonder what the public's reaction would be at seeing the 'establishment' preventing something happening that they had voted for. It is certainly something Reform would try to do and it would be refreshing in an odd sort of way (i'm not a Reform voter) to see a party actually do what they said they would do in their manifesto.
And there's the crisis. You could argue that this would be the best argument for scrapping the HOL all together. Because in this instance many would argue that democracy is broken. Others would say the HOL is part of our democracy.
Then the question is, does democracy belong to the 70 million of us or the 850 of them. |  | | |  |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 17:22 - May 14 with 960 views | Whiterockin |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 15:40 - May 14 by Kilkennyjack |
You are right about Labour.
I do think Reform is fundamentally anti-welsh - and does represent a current and obvious threat to our national demiocratic well being.
This is what Farage achieved with Brexit ….
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Evidence that Reform is anti Welsh please. It didn't seem that way in Ystalyfera last month when Plaid vote was down by 30%. |  | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 17:35 - May 14 with 932 views | SullutaCreturned |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 15:34 - May 14 by Kilkennyjack |
I admire a man with a shovel who wont stop digging, fair play to you.
If you are right, then all these people are wasting their time …..
The UK's market, social, and opinion research industry, which includes polling, is worth approximately £9 billion. This industry contributes significantly to the UK economy and employs at least 70,000 people across over 4,000 businesses. The sector has seen substantial growth, with a recent increase of £1 billion in a year, reaching the record £9 billion valuation.
Strange mind when you think about it ….. |
They can be worth ten times that much, it doesn't matter when they are wrong.
The UK economy is worth over 3 trillion for the government to spend, do you think they are right because of all the jobs they provide and all the money they spend?
When I say polls are not always right then yes, I am right and the evidence is there.
Here's a nvel suggestion for you, Kilky, people get things wrong...you should know that better than anyone. Polls are not always right, police are not always right, doctors get things wrong...it's called life.
If the polls were always right then we would still be in the EU. That shovel, it;s always been in your hands, not mine. | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 17:53 - May 14 with 912 views | Gwyn737 |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 17:22 - May 14 by Whiterockin |
Evidence that Reform is anti Welsh please. It didn't seem that way in Ystalyfera last month when Plaid vote was down by 30%. |
I don’t think Reform are anti-Welsh.
I don’t thing they’ve given Wales more than a second thought. | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 18:07 - May 14 with 894 views | Boundy |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 17:53 - May 14 by Gwyn737 |
I don’t think Reform are anti-Welsh.
I don’t thing they’ve given Wales more than a second thought. |
They have a whole year to convince the electors, judge them then .Doesn't the thought of the continuation of the same policies and ideas fil you with dread , I know it does for every I've spoken to. | |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 18:07 - May 14 with 893 views | Whiterockin |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 17:53 - May 14 by Gwyn737 |
I don’t think Reform are anti-Welsh.
I don’t thing they’ve given Wales more than a second thought. |
I think they will be going all out in the Senedd elections to use it as a springboard for the next General Election. | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 18:09 - May 14 with 878 views | Whiterockin |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 18:07 - May 14 by Boundy |
They have a whole year to convince the electors, judge them then .Doesn't the thought of the continuation of the same policies and ideas fil you with dread , I know it does for every I've spoken to. |
In fairness Gwyn is not based in Wales to see the day to day impact of the Senedds policies. | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 18:12 - May 14 with 861 views | Gwyn737 |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 18:09 - May 14 by Whiterockin |
In fairness Gwyn is not based in Wales to see the day to day impact of the Senedds policies. |
True WR.
I tend not to comment for that very reason but even from afar I can see some serious issues.
Some that people bring up are political as opposed to being ‘bad’ IMO. | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 18:21 - May 14 with 815 views | SullutaCreturned |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 17:53 - May 14 by Gwyn737 |
I don’t think Reform are anti-Welsh.
I don’t thing they’ve given Wales more than a second thought. |
I think Wales is a means to an end, he doesn't care about Wales any further than what it can do for his cause. He'll drop us as soon as he doesn't need us.
Look at his past, he walks away when something is no good to him. A second thought is about all he has given Wales, a few photo opportunities, get the ignorant onside. | | | |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 18:36 - May 14 with 811 views | Whiterockin |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 18:12 - May 14 by Gwyn737 |
True WR.
I tend not to comment for that very reason but even from afar I can see some serious issues.
Some that people bring up are political as opposed to being ‘bad’ IMO. |
That's understandable because in my opinion you can't separate the politics from the Senedd. I travel extensively throughout Wales and I am always chatting to people, usually over a glass of beer. Different areas have different issues although the main topics are usually health, education, transport, 20mph and infrastructure issues. Often in West Wales when talking to English tourists the issue is the traffic and the travelling time down on a Friday, many are no longer doing weekend's. Aberystwyth they seem more concerned with TFW and the number of empty properties. While around Betws-Y- Coed and Bethesda they feel totally alienated from the Senedd and feel nothing is done locally to encourage tourism. All areas are Welsh and all seem to have different issues with the Senedd. But all seem to want a change. | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 21:49 - May 14 with 744 views | Boundy |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 18:21 - May 14 by SullutaCreturned |
I think Wales is a means to an end, he doesn't care about Wales any further than what it can do for his cause. He'll drop us as soon as he doesn't need us.
Look at his past, he walks away when something is no good to him. A second thought is about all he has given Wales, a few photo opportunities, get the ignorant onside. |
He has said publicly that he will not be standing in next years Welsh elections .
Not sure I'm ignorant just looking at alternatives , those that don't vote I would consider ignorant . | |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 22:14 - May 14 with 721 views | Scotia |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 17:53 - May 14 by Gwyn737 |
I don’t think Reform are anti-Welsh.
I don’t thing they’ve given Wales more than a second thought. |
They clearly haven't which is why I'm genuinely amazed by the support they seem to have.
No policies, no leader and no apparent candidates. The Senedd elections are less than a year away, what are their supporters going to vote for? | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 22:17 - May 14 with 710 views | Whiterockin |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 22:14 - May 14 by Scotia |
They clearly haven't which is why I'm genuinely amazed by the support they seem to have.
No policies, no leader and no apparent candidates. The Senedd elections are less than a year away, what are their supporters going to vote for? |
It just goes to show how far Labour have dropped that people are people are looking for alternatives. | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 22:24 - May 14 with 693 views | onehunglow |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 17:53 - May 14 by Gwyn737 |
I don’t think Reform are anti-Welsh.
I don’t thing they’ve given Wales more than a second thought. |
Wales is a small part of the UK far enough from
London as to be irrelevant
Labour has shat all over wales and closed more pits than Tories who at least were honest that they couldn't give a fork
Biggest issue is asylum seekers and Labour is clearly no better than Tories | |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 08:03 - May 15 with 599 views | Kilkennyjack |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 18:36 - May 14 by Whiterockin |
That's understandable because in my opinion you can't separate the politics from the Senedd. I travel extensively throughout Wales and I am always chatting to people, usually over a glass of beer. Different areas have different issues although the main topics are usually health, education, transport, 20mph and infrastructure issues. Often in West Wales when talking to English tourists the issue is the traffic and the travelling time down on a Friday, many are no longer doing weekend's. Aberystwyth they seem more concerned with TFW and the number of empty properties. While around Betws-Y- Coed and Bethesda they feel totally alienated from the Senedd and feel nothing is done locally to encourage tourism. All areas are Welsh and all seem to have different issues with the Senedd. But all seem to want a change. |
But Farage is an English establishment figure heading an English nationalist party.
His track record on ‘vote Brexit stop illegal immigration’ was a total lie.
Illegal immigration has increased since his Brexit.
Its a bit like being a bit bored walking down a country lane on an overcast day, and so because you fancy a change you jump of a cliff. Yes its certainly a change but has made your life a lot worse than it was before.
Change can be taking Wales back to the 1950s with snivelling George Thomas representing our nation by being on his knees and bowing to the Establishment. An idiot child version of Wales.
Plaid is the change option as they only exist to put Wales first. |  |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 08:53 - May 15 with 574 views | Kilkennyjack |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 22:24 - May 14 by onehunglow |
Wales is a small part of the UK far enough from
London as to be irrelevant
Labour has shat all over wales and closed more pits than Tories who at least were honest that they couldn't give a fork
Biggest issue is asylum seekers and Labour is clearly no better than Tories |
Genuine question - how do asylum seekers impact your day to day life to make it such a big issue for you ?
Is it the unfairness of them getting something for nothing, or is it more than that ?
Thank you. | |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 09:31 - May 15 with 561 views | controversial_jack |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 08:53 - May 15 by Kilkennyjack |
Genuine question - how do asylum seekers impact your day to day life to make it such a big issue for you ?
Is it the unfairness of them getting something for nothing, or is it more than that ?
Thank you. |
They don't. They are used as a distraction from other matters.They are easy scapegoats by those who don't want to face realities | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 09:35 - May 15 with 563 views | Whiterockin |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 08:03 - May 15 by Kilkennyjack |
But Farage is an English establishment figure heading an English nationalist party.
His track record on ‘vote Brexit stop illegal immigration’ was a total lie.
Illegal immigration has increased since his Brexit.
Its a bit like being a bit bored walking down a country lane on an overcast day, and so because you fancy a change you jump of a cliff. Yes its certainly a change but has made your life a lot worse than it was before.
Change can be taking Wales back to the 1950s with snivelling George Thomas representing our nation by being on his knees and bowing to the Establishment. An idiot child version of Wales.
Plaid is the change option as they only exist to put Wales first. |
Seems that Welsh voters don't agree with you regarding Reform.
"while the support for Reform has also continued to surge to 25%."
https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2025-05-06/labour-support-collapses-as-plaid-cymr | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 10:28 - May 15 with 544 views | onehunglow |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 08:53 - May 15 by Kilkennyjack |
Genuine question - how do asylum seekers impact your day to day life to make it such a big issue for you ?
Is it the unfairness of them getting something for nothing, or is it more than that ?
Thank you. |
Genuine answer
Locally , they have closed two hotels to house them
Workers lost their jobs as a result
They are males and are now living on an area where young ladies head to the beach in minimal clothing
It doesn't affect me but it does others
The cost of housing these which is now in millions comes from taxes that O pay
I'd rather my taxes go towards providing the best care for MY people , ie the people of this island I live on
Because I am not directly affected doesn't mean I should stay mute
Thank you too | |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 13:17 - May 15 with 490 views | Kilkennyjack |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 10:28 - May 15 by onehunglow |
Genuine answer
Locally , they have closed two hotels to house them
Workers lost their jobs as a result
They are males and are now living on an area where young ladies head to the beach in minimal clothing
It doesn't affect me but it does others
The cost of housing these which is now in millions comes from taxes that O pay
I'd rather my taxes go towards providing the best care for MY people , ie the people of this island I live on
Because I am not directly affected doesn't mean I should stay mute
Thank you too |
Yes i get all that.
I was just asking why it was your biggest issue.
People should speak up and concern for others is admirable. | |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 15:19 - May 15 with 458 views | SullutaCreturned |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 21:49 - May 14 by Boundy |
He has said publicly that he will not be standing in next years Welsh elections .
Not sure I'm ignorant just looking at alternatives , those that don't vote I would consider ignorant . |
Well sorry but you are definitely ignorant of their policies, because they don't have any. All they have is rabble rousing soundbites.
Reform are no more the answer for us than Trump is the answer in the USA. I looked up what reform have said, they say they decrease tax burdens by uncreasing the personal allowance, the Senedd doesn't have that power. Raising the VAT threshold, agina they can't. raising the minimum wage...there's a pattern emerging.
So Farage is making promises he cannot keep unless Reform are in power in Westminster. If you didn't know that then you are ignorant of the truth, not an ignorant person, I don't think that and I should have been clearer in that post. Quite a few on here seem to be choosing Reform but do they understand he's making promises he cannpt keep?
People can be informed and not vote, in fact I know a couple who are very well informed and decided none of the parties were worth voting for. Not my choice but hey, in a democracy they have the right not to vote. | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 15:26 - May 15 with 427 views | Whiterockin |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 15:19 - May 15 by SullutaCreturned |
Well sorry but you are definitely ignorant of their policies, because they don't have any. All they have is rabble rousing soundbites.
Reform are no more the answer for us than Trump is the answer in the USA. I looked up what reform have said, they say they decrease tax burdens by uncreasing the personal allowance, the Senedd doesn't have that power. Raising the VAT threshold, agina they can't. raising the minimum wage...there's a pattern emerging.
So Farage is making promises he cannot keep unless Reform are in power in Westminster. If you didn't know that then you are ignorant of the truth, not an ignorant person, I don't think that and I should have been clearer in that post. Quite a few on here seem to be choosing Reform but do they understand he's making promises he cannpt keep?
People can be informed and not vote, in fact I know a couple who are very well informed and decided none of the parties were worth voting for. Not my choice but hey, in a democracy they have the right not to vote. |
Do any politicians keep their promises or backtrack when in power. Often citing the previous government left us with more debt than anticipated. | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 15:57 - May 15 with 403 views | SullutaCreturned |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 15:26 - May 15 by Whiterockin |
Do any politicians keep their promises or backtrack when in power. Often citing the previous government left us with more debt than anticipated. |
Ok then. lets vote for a party that is making promises that legally it cannot keep. It must be better than those who just backtrack.
Sorry but that is poor, if you support reform because of what they say will do, when legally they can never do it, what does that make you?
At least choose a party that can do what it says and don't give them an easy ride if they fall short. | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 16:10 - May 15 with 382 views | Whiterockin |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 15:57 - May 15 by SullutaCreturned |
Ok then. lets vote for a party that is making promises that legally it cannot keep. It must be better than those who just backtrack.
Sorry but that is poor, if you support reform because of what they say will do, when legally they can never do it, what does that make you?
At least choose a party that can do what it says and don't give them an easy ride if they fall short. |
Do you think the voters of Runcorn voted the Reform candidate in without knowing their policies. The Senedd election will be decided on the various parties manifestos which will all be out in due course. The Conservatives got what they deserved Labour will get the same the options are decreasing this is why Reform are gaining momentum. The people knocking Reform seem to be running scared. | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 17:31 - May 15 with 329 views | SullutaCreturned |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 16:10 - May 15 by Whiterockin |
Do you think the voters of Runcorn voted the Reform candidate in without knowing their policies. The Senedd election will be decided on the various parties manifestos which will all be out in due course. The Conservatives got what they deserved Labour will get the same the options are decreasing this is why Reform are gaining momentum. The people knocking Reform seem to be running scared. |
Running scared of a party that has no policies in the country it's standing in? Labour are running scared, of pretty much everyone right now and Plaid see it as opportunity, I believe.
I cannot trust Farage and as I pointed out, the things he says they'll do, they cannot do. That makes him a flim flam merchant, that isn't something to run scared of but it is something to avoid.
Again, not doing what you promised is bad ebough but making promises you know you cannot keep, that's just pure BS.
Are you going to vote for BS? When Reform come up with a manifesto O shall look again but if they repeat the promises that are pie in the sky promises, what will you do, vote for something you know you cannot get? That's not change. | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 17:59 - May 15 with 317 views | Gwyn737 |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 17:31 - May 15 by SullutaCreturned |
Running scared of a party that has no policies in the country it's standing in? Labour are running scared, of pretty much everyone right now and Plaid see it as opportunity, I believe.
I cannot trust Farage and as I pointed out, the things he says they'll do, they cannot do. That makes him a flim flam merchant, that isn't something to run scared of but it is something to avoid.
Again, not doing what you promised is bad ebough but making promises you know you cannot keep, that's just pure BS.
Are you going to vote for BS? When Reform come up with a manifesto O shall look again but if they repeat the promises that are pie in the sky promises, what will you do, vote for something you know you cannot get? That's not change. |
One of the massive advantages Reform have is their newness.
No baggage of policies that turned out to be wrong. It’s why Farage on the surface seems to get an easy ride when interviewed - there’s nothing to hold him account to. | | | |
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