| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT 10:01 - May 2 with 16677 views | johnlangy |
This possibilty increases by the day. And certainly did last night. But something was said by a Reform person this morning that if they were to become the next government could result in a monumental constitutional crisis.
Imagine at the next GE Reform were to stand on a policy of leaving the ECHR. Then they are elected and produce legislation to that effect. They get it through the House of Commons and it goes to the House of Lords. There is not one Reform peer in the HOL and the vast bulk of the 850 or so peers is made up of Labour/Conservative/Lib Dem etc etc peers who would fight tooth and nail to scupper the plan.
I wonder what the public's reaction would be at seeing the 'establishment' preventing something happening that they had voted for. It is certainly something Reform would try to do and it would be refreshing in an odd sort of way (i'm not a Reform voter) to see a party actually do what they said they would do in their manifesto.
And there's the crisis. You could argue that this would be the best argument for scrapping the HOL all together. Because in this instance many would argue that democracy is broken. Others would say the HOL is part of our democracy.
Then the question is, does democracy belong to the 70 million of us or the 850 of them. |  | | |  |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT (n/t) on 20:15 - May 7 with 1384 views | Scotia |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT (n/t) on 18:39 - May 7 by Boundy |
Are you implying that wasn't a terrorist attack ? |
Was it? For what cause?
It didn't have anything to do with immigration or asylum either. [Post edited 7 May 20:23]
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT (n/t) on 20:37 - May 7 with 1349 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT (n/t) on 18:39 - May 7 by Boundy |
Are you implying that wasn't a terrorist attack ? |
The police decided it wasn’t, despite finding an al qaeda terrorist training manual and a substance banned under the terrorism act. |  |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT (n/t) on 20:41 - May 7 with 1345 views | Scotia |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT (n/t) on 20:37 - May 7 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
The police decided it wasn’t, despite finding an al qaeda terrorist training manual and a substance banned under the terrorism act. |
And research on the IRA and mass school shootings in the states. | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 21:07 - May 7 with 1322 views | SullutaCreturned |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 08:30 - May 7 by Kilkennyjack |
The rise of the populist far right.
Parallels in rhetoric.
It never ever ends well.
Farage is not part of ‘British’ political tradition.
I am Welsh.
My nation has never agreed to be part any British political union.
I know that you know this as the proud Cymro that you are. |
Wales has never asked to leave the Union and validate our membership by voting in general elections, that is a tacit agreement that we want to be in the Union.
You should know this but you always show a basic lack of comprehension for Welsh history so there's no chance of you understanding German history either.
How's this Kilky, there was no invasion, Hitler...Lebensraum, treaty of Versailles...unite German speaking peoples...look it up, or stay ignorant of the facts. | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT (n/t) on 21:38 - May 7 with 1288 views | majorraglan |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT (n/t) on 18:39 - May 7 by Boundy |
Are you implying that wasn't a terrorist attack ? |
The Southport case wasn’t deemed to be a terrorist case. If you look at the legal definition of what constitutes a terrorist act under that U.K. legislation, it was deemed the offence wasn’t “made out.”
Lots of people have different views, but that is the legal position. | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT (n/t) on 21:52 - May 7 with 1271 views | raynor94 |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT (n/t) on 20:41 - May 7 by Scotia |
And research on the IRA and mass school shootings in the states. |
So which of the three do you think radicalised him, here is a perfect case for the death penalty, but as a Country we have become weak |  |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT (n/t) on 22:15 - May 7 with 1252 views | Scotia |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT (n/t) on 21:52 - May 7 by raynor94 |
So which of the three do you think radicalised him, here is a perfect case for the death penalty, but as a Country we have become weak |
I think he was just an evil scumbag intent on mass murder.
He wasn't a terrorist. | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 04:10 - May 8 with 1175 views | Kilkennyjack |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 21:07 - May 7 by SullutaCreturned |
Wales has never asked to leave the Union and validate our membership by voting in general elections, that is a tacit agreement that we want to be in the Union.
You should know this but you always show a basic lack of comprehension for Welsh history so there's no chance of you understanding German history either.
How's this Kilky, there was no invasion, Hitler...Lebensraum, treaty of Versailles...unite German speaking peoples...look it up, or stay ignorant of the facts. |
You just dont like the facts, again.
Wales was forced to join England under force of arms.
Yes its a long time ago, 1536 ?
But unlike Scotland, Wales never signed up.
Thats just a fact.
Its been one of the longest acts of resistance known to man.
Wales would have voted unionist after the war. yes.
But until 1800 Wales was welsh speaking, so times change.
When Scotland and the north of Ireland leave this blessed union, then we will ask Wales.
And your confidence is misplaced. |  |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 07:40 - May 8 with 1128 views | raynor94 |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 04:10 - May 8 by Kilkennyjack |
You just dont like the facts, again.
Wales was forced to join England under force of arms.
Yes its a long time ago, 1536 ?
But unlike Scotland, Wales never signed up.
Thats just a fact.
Its been one of the longest acts of resistance known to man.
Wales would have voted unionist after the war. yes.
But until 1800 Wales was welsh speaking, so times change.
When Scotland and the north of Ireland leave this blessed union, then we will ask Wales.
And your confidence is misplaced. |
Scotland had a vote to leave the Union, they turned it down, they have turned against the SNP.
As much as you keep repeating we are going to leave the Union it just isn't going to happen.
And on a special day like today it's wonderful to celebrate the Union
Oh and I have just seen Plaid have said if they are the majority party they won't be having a referendum on independence, I wonder why that is🤔 [Post edited 8 May 17:22]
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 17:01 - May 8 with 1047 views | SullutaCreturned |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 04:10 - May 8 by Kilkennyjack |
You just dont like the facts, again.
Wales was forced to join England under force of arms.
Yes its a long time ago, 1536 ?
But unlike Scotland, Wales never signed up.
Thats just a fact.
Its been one of the longest acts of resistance known to man.
Wales would have voted unionist after the war. yes.
But until 1800 Wales was welsh speaking, so times change.
When Scotland and the north of Ireland leave this blessed union, then we will ask Wales.
And your confidence is misplaced. |
Oh I like facts but you always have a loose grasp on them. You always call others out for living in the past well you are 500 years in the past.
In the present Wales is a willing member of the Union, is not asking (and hasn't asked in 200 years) to leave and boy YOU do not like that fact. Stop crying over reality, you're like a child who can't get his own way.
WW2 was after 1800 so times did change and we are still a Unionist country by a large majority, you just can't keep up with the truth, again, because you don't like the fact.
Maybe Wales will one day choose independence, I don't know because I cannot see the future. Unlike you I won't make the prediction and you are hardly the "Oracle of Kilkenny" yourself. You've been wrong so many times you can't tell the difference anymore.
Since Scotland lost faith with the SNP the urge for independence has faded up there too. Swinney said electing the SNP meant another indy vote and then Labour kicked their butts. Swinney is saying the same thing again, an SNP win in 2026 is a vote for an indyref, lets see hwo that goes eh, before making absurd statements.
Yet another post with no fences sat on. | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 17:47 - May 8 with 1002 views | onehunglow |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 17:01 - May 8 by SullutaCreturned |
Oh I like facts but you always have a loose grasp on them. You always call others out for living in the past well you are 500 years in the past.
In the present Wales is a willing member of the Union, is not asking (and hasn't asked in 200 years) to leave and boy YOU do not like that fact. Stop crying over reality, you're like a child who can't get his own way.
WW2 was after 1800 so times did change and we are still a Unionist country by a large majority, you just can't keep up with the truth, again, because you don't like the fact.
Maybe Wales will one day choose independence, I don't know because I cannot see the future. Unlike you I won't make the prediction and you are hardly the "Oracle of Kilkenny" yourself. You've been wrong so many times you can't tell the difference anymore.
Since Scotland lost faith with the SNP the urge for independence has faded up there too. Swinney said electing the SNP meant another indy vote and then Labour kicked their butts. Swinney is saying the same thing again, an SNP win in 2026 is a vote for an indyref, lets see hwo that goes eh, before making absurd statements.
Yet another post with no fences sat on. |
British and Irish are deeply conservative by nature
Wales will never gonna independent as Welsh are not stupid
We see a warped view of nationalism on here
Neither will Ireland and that's as much the wishes of Eire and Northern Ireland , the most proudly and religious part of the UK
No way would the Protestant majority want a Pope as head of the church of their country | |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 20:05 - May 8 with 970 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 04:10 - May 8 by Kilkennyjack |
You just dont like the facts, again.
Wales was forced to join England under force of arms.
Yes its a long time ago, 1536 ?
But unlike Scotland, Wales never signed up.
Thats just a fact.
Its been one of the longest acts of resistance known to man.
Wales would have voted unionist after the war. yes.
But until 1800 Wales was welsh speaking, so times change.
When Scotland and the north of Ireland leave this blessed union, then we will ask Wales.
And your confidence is misplaced. |
There was no force involved in 1536. The vast majority of the Welsh lords and marcher lords were behind the Tudors. They fought with Henry Tudor at Bosworth and slew the usurper English king Richard III under the shadow of the Welsh dragon. | |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 20:08 - May 8 with 964 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 04:10 - May 8 by Kilkennyjack |
You just dont like the facts, again.
Wales was forced to join England under force of arms.
Yes its a long time ago, 1536 ?
But unlike Scotland, Wales never signed up.
Thats just a fact.
Its been one of the longest acts of resistance known to man.
Wales would have voted unionist after the war. yes.
But until 1800 Wales was welsh speaking, so times change.
When Scotland and the north of Ireland leave this blessed union, then we will ask Wales.
And your confidence is misplaced. |
Also the decline of Welsh being the main language in Wales after 1800 was a result of a massive boom in immigration from across the border as people searched for jobs in the mines, copper, tin, iron, steelworks etc. | |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 00:19 - May 9 with 895 views | onehunglow |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 20:08 - May 8 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Also the decline of Welsh being the main language in Wales after 1800 was a result of a massive boom in immigration from across the border as people searched for jobs in the mines, copper, tin, iron, steelworks etc. |
Bastards coming into wales and taking our jobs then ! | |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 12:02 - May 9 with 814 views | controversial_jack |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 00:19 - May 9 by onehunglow |
Bastards coming into wales and taking our jobs then ! |
Am i correct in assuming that you don't live in Wales? | | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 12:48 - May 9 with 807 views | Kilkennyjack |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 00:19 - May 9 by onehunglow |
Bastards coming into wales and taking our jobs then ! |
If only Saint Nigel had been around to bitch about it ….🇬🇧 | |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 15:44 - May 9 with 775 views | Boundy |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 12:48 - May 9 by Kilkennyjack |
If only Saint Nigel had been around to bitch about it ….🇬🇧 |
Instead we have you | |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 22:53 - May 9 with 716 views | Kilkennyjack |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 15:44 - May 9 by Boundy |
Instead we have you |
Your admiration for a posh English bloke who does not care one iota if you live or die, puzzles me.
I am sure you are a good bloke so its a mystery.
You are like a coal miner championing the coal mine owners son. Uch a fi mun !
And i think its just because Saint Nigel waves the union flag.
Correct ? | |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 23:08 - May 9 with 710 views | raynor94 |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 22:53 - May 9 by Kilkennyjack |
Your admiration for a posh English bloke who does not care one iota if you live or die, puzzles me.
I am sure you are a good bloke so its a mystery.
You are like a coal miner championing the coal mine owners son. Uch a fi mun !
And i think its just because Saint Nigel waves the union flag.
Correct ? |
Do you have admiration for Mark Drakeford? | |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT (n/t) on 09:44 - May 10 with 656 views | Boundy |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT (n/t) on 20:37 - May 7 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
The police decided it wasn’t, despite finding an al qaeda terrorist training manual and a substance banned under the terrorism act. |
That's ok then . | |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 19:44 - May 10 with 603 views | onehunglow |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 22:53 - May 9 by Kilkennyjack |
Your admiration for a posh English bloke who does not care one iota if you live or die, puzzles me.
I am sure you are a good bloke so its a mystery.
You are like a coal miner championing the coal mine owners son. Uch a fi mun !
And i think its just because Saint Nigel waves the union flag.
Correct ? |
Some Welsh are posh
O bonked a few down Caswell | |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 21:58 - May 10 with 556 views | Kilkennyjack |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 19:44 - May 10 by onehunglow |
Some Welsh are posh
O bonked a few down Caswell |
No girls there …?
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 22:02 - May 10 with 552 views | Kilkennyjack |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 23:08 - May 9 by raynor94 |
Do you have admiration for Mark Drakeford? |
Not really now, too much of a unionist for me.
I do respect him though, a decent man who led in tbe pandemic which was difficult.
He also had to deal with that turd Boris Johnson.
Are you s fan boy for Drakers ? | |
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| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 07:35 - May 11 with 494 views | Whiterockin |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 22:02 - May 10 by Kilkennyjack |
Not really now, too much of a unionist for me.
I do respect him though, a decent man who led in tbe pandemic which was difficult.
He also had to deal with that turd Boris Johnson.
Are you s fan boy for Drakers ? |
You could turn that around and say Johnson led the country through the pandemic and had to deal with that turd "we do things differently in Wales" Drakeford. |  | | |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 09:03 - May 11 with 440 views | SullutaCreturned |
| REFORM IN GOVERNMENT on 20:05 - May 8 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
There was no force involved in 1536. The vast majority of the Welsh lords and marcher lords were behind the Tudors. They fought with Henry Tudor at Bosworth and slew the usurper English king Richard III under the shadow of the Welsh dragon. |
Good old Mab Darogan eh, though the Welsh probably supported him because the thinking was, he'd release Wales from English rule. History, even back then shows that once a country is conquered, the conquerirs rarely give it up easily.
We'd best make sure Reform don't conquer Wales, I dread to think what we'd become under Farage. | | | |
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