| England on 19:35 - Jun 7 with 2537 views | davman |
Shocking wasn't it. If Southgate was bad, this guy is JFH level dull.
Yet again England well overrated and 'kin boring to watch.
Will continue to beat the little teams and fail when we come across another top 10 team. |  |
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| England on 20:01 - Jun 7 with 2457 views | daveB |
3 games in we've been pretty rubbish in all 3 games but really you can only judge any England manager on a tournament |  | | |
| England on 20:22 - Jun 7 with 2391 views | jeffranger50 |
Didn’t realise England was playing today until I changed channels & then fell asleep watching & didn’t miss much |  | | |
| England on 20:27 - Jun 7 with 2363 views | Mr_Beef |
International football has long been fairly dull, particularly those games that are played in June. This user to be down time for football, but no longer. |  | | |
| England on 20:39 - Jun 7 with 2323 views | stevec |
What tournament is it?
Have we qualified yet? |  | | |
| England on 20:47 - Jun 7 with 2276 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Boring wins trophies sometimes.
‘90, ‘96, and maybe ‘98 were the only exciting England sides I can remember and they won nowt. Boring has delivered us two finals and two semis or whatever it is.
I’d happily forgo the piss and vinegar in exchange for a tournament win. Those trophy laden German sides were as langweilig as fck. I doubt their fans care much. [Post edited 7 Jun 20:48]
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| England on 22:31 - Jun 7 with 2090 views | davman |
QPR can bore the pants off me as long as they win.
England, clearly I am less vested as I'd like to be entertained as these are, apparently, the world class players we have. I am not and therefore feel as much affinity with them as I do the other dull, boring Premier League teams.
Tournaments are fun, but we remain a hard watch. | |
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| England on 23:37 - Jun 7 with 1960 views | mart_Goblin |
Quite like Tuchel.
Played 3 won 3.
But after each game he has criticised this bunch individually and collectively.
Questioned their attitude and mentality today and they need that.
A lot of this bunch are caught up in the Sky/ Premier league over hype where they think they just have to turn up.
And that includes Bellingham who I think is part of the problem in why we are so stodgy.
We have decent players but not many top top players .
Not as good as they think they are and Tuchel has seen that . |  | | |
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| England on 23:49 - Jun 7 with 1940 views | kensalriser |
That looked very much like a team putting in the bare minimum of effort to ensure a win against a very limited opponent at the end of a long season. |  |
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| England on 06:51 - Jun 8 with 1715 views | daveB |
| England on 23:37 - Jun 7 by mart_Goblin |
Quite like Tuchel.
Played 3 won 3.
But after each game he has criticised this bunch individually and collectively.
Questioned their attitude and mentality today and they need that.
A lot of this bunch are caught up in the Sky/ Premier league over hype where they think they just have to turn up.
And that includes Bellingham who I think is part of the problem in why we are so stodgy.
We have decent players but not many top top players .
Not as good as they think they are and Tuchel has seen that . |
I don't think it's a great idea to throw the players under the bus, the teams he's picked have been bizarre in the 3 games but he has form for this and it's part of why he leaves every job within 18 months
That team yesterday was embarssing, a right back at left back, a central midfielder at right back, Jordan Henderson in midfield with Bellingham, Palmer and Kane all trying to play in the same position. Manager has to take a fair chunk of the blame for how we played
How England play obviously matters nowadays, saw that last summer when England got slaughtered despite getting to a final
Early signs under Tuchel are not great to be honest but as I said before can only really judge him next summer, fingers crossed he gets it right | | | |
| England on 07:16 - Jun 8 with 1685 views | numptydumpty |
| England on 06:51 - Jun 8 by daveB |
I don't think it's a great idea to throw the players under the bus, the teams he's picked have been bizarre in the 3 games but he has form for this and it's part of why he leaves every job within 18 months
That team yesterday was embarssing, a right back at left back, a central midfielder at right back, Jordan Henderson in midfield with Bellingham, Palmer and Kane all trying to play in the same position. Manager has to take a fair chunk of the blame for how we played
How England play obviously matters nowadays, saw that last summer when England got slaughtered despite getting to a final
Early signs under Tuchel are not great to be honest but as I said before can only really judge him next summer, fingers crossed he gets it right |
Agree
I found that under Southgate, England players looked like they enjoyed being out there and enjoyed each other's performances and I know Southgate did a lot outside of playing and coaching in keeping the players engaged and happy.
From the way I have seen since Tuchel has been in charge, there appears to be more fear, there isn't great celebrations when they have scored and Tuchel does come across as a Sargent Major in the way he leads.
But yes fear seems to be the underlying state.
I don't agree with managers throwing players under the bus and not really taking any blame for themselves also - has been Tuchels default.
It's early days but clearly yesterday was appalling.
The manager used this game like a friendly and had various players not in their normal positions.
They won.
That's currently about all you can say. Early Days but not encouraging as yet. |  |
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| England on 09:15 - Jun 8 with 1538 views | PlanetHonneywood |
England have a problem brewing. Assuming they qualify for the WC, the highest ranked side they're currently due to play between mow and the tournament beginning, is Cameroon on Tuesday.
They have an easy group and frankly, no one is going to bust a gut in a friendly between now and June 2026
So as we plod along, getting this lot battle hardened and capable of turning up the intensity is going to be quite the challenge for Tuch. Especially as we really don't really have anyone who can pull the strings and make them tick. |  |
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| England on 09:35 - Jun 8 with 1477 views | johnhoop |
| England on 09:15 - Jun 8 by PlanetHonneywood |
England have a problem brewing. Assuming they qualify for the WC, the highest ranked side they're currently due to play between mow and the tournament beginning, is Cameroon on Tuesday.
They have an easy group and frankly, no one is going to bust a gut in a friendly between now and June 2026
So as we plod along, getting this lot battle hardened and capable of turning up the intensity is going to be quite the challenge for Tuch. Especially as we really don't really have anyone who can pull the strings and make them tick. |
I think the away game in Serbia could be a bit of a wake up call. Apparently it’s been scheduled at a small stadium away from Belgrade to make the conditions as difficult as possible. | | | |
| England on 10:14 - Jun 8 with 1390 views | ericgen34 |
Don't panic. I remember a 1-0 victory thanks to a dodgy Le boeuf penalty away to Andorra for France in a qualifier in 1999, we then won Euro 2000 in style |  | | |
| England on 11:06 - Jun 8 with 1273 views | SydneyRs |
If we'd beat them 8-0 it would tell us no more about world cup prospects than this game did. These type of games are often difficult, hard to get properly motivated for, but you just have to win them and move in. | | | |
| England on 15:26 - Jun 8 with 1055 views | themodfather |
always a no win these games, but you expect a 3-0 win. all we did was high ball, slow tempo and no plan b! it was awful. ok a win but we had the best part of a billion quid on that pitch and looked worse than a pub team, with 8 drunk players. | | | |
| England on 20:48 - Jun 8 with 874 views | Logman |
If you want to watch a proper international match tune into Spain Portugal on ITV now. The technique, tactics and application are different class, in addition to which it has got all the ingredients to become very fiesty in the second half. Good refereeing as well. | | | |
| England on 21:53 - Jun 8 with 807 views | mart_Goblin |
| England on 20:48 - Jun 8 by Logman |
If you want to watch a proper international match tune into Spain Portugal on ITV now. The technique, tactics and application are different class, in addition to which it has got all the ingredients to become very fiesty in the second half. Good refereeing as well. |
Different planet to England
Different sport to Rangers | | | |
| England on 09:58 - Jun 9 with 646 views | stantheman10 |
| England on 20:27 - Jun 7 by Mr_Beef |
International football has long been fairly dull, particularly those games that are played in June. This user to be down time for football, but no longer. |
You obviously wrote this before France v Spain or Spain v Portugal then! | | | |
| England on 10:20 - Jun 9 with 591 views | TheChef |
| England on 07:16 - Jun 8 by numptydumpty |
Agree
I found that under Southgate, England players looked like they enjoyed being out there and enjoyed each other's performances and I know Southgate did a lot outside of playing and coaching in keeping the players engaged and happy.
From the way I have seen since Tuchel has been in charge, there appears to be more fear, there isn't great celebrations when they have scored and Tuchel does come across as a Sargent Major in the way he leads.
But yes fear seems to be the underlying state.
I don't agree with managers throwing players under the bus and not really taking any blame for themselves also - has been Tuchels default.
It's early days but clearly yesterday was appalling.
The manager used this game like a friendly and had various players not in their normal positions.
They won.
That's currently about all you can say. Early Days but not encouraging as yet. |
I thought Tuchel might get us playing in a more enterprising way but if anything we have doubled down on the slow backwards, sideways approach.
I watched the first half on Saturday and gave up at half time. I knew we'd eventually score and win, but I couldn't bear to watch another half like that. |  |
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| England on 10:42 - Jun 9 with 540 views | NorthantsHoop |
Other than money, which seems it is all about now not sure why Tuchel took the England job. I did quite like Southgate as England manager, he was invested in the project and got us to Euro finals twice and a World Cup semi final. Early days with Tuchel but a bit concerned this has a whiff of a repeat of Capello. |  | | |
| England on 10:44 - Jun 9 with 530 views | Paddyhoops |
Englands record in the nations leauge against top tier teams is poor . Just five wins in eighteen .
Unfortunately this is where the bigger problems lie not necessarily against the poorer sides | | | |
| England on 11:07 - Jun 9 with 494 views | Jules4367 |
For me (and 51% of the time I talk 'round things') there were and are three issues:
(i) The constant passing back and forth across the field each side of the halfway line
(ii) The lack of players having the ability to run at the defence -through the middle !!
(iii) Sloppy ball control
(i) The first of these allows teams to either sit back and wait for (iii) then break. All teams know that its going to go to one side or the other and then a cross into Lame in the centre. Admittedly Lame is on the end of the ball when it eventually gets to him and Lame takes a good penalty but, for 85 minutes I always feel he does very very little and we shouldn't keep playing him hoping he will do something.
(ii) Watching Spain, Portugal, Netherlands, Germany, Japan, South Korea, The Ascension Islands and the Pitcairn Islands teams they attack through the middle AND the wings rather than back and forth back and forth pass to wing, run down the wing and cross to Lame. Defences need to be put on the backfoot by variety in attack, sometimes wing, sometimes central run, sometimes cross - we put no opposition on the bnack foot!
(iii) There is NO EXCUSE whatsoever for the sloppiness especially when the attack has no real threats. Yes Spain and Portugal had their sloppy moments yesterday but the attacks covered that.
We are poor and will be as long as we keep aiming for Lame in the centre.
(Another from my 51% contributions)
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| England on 11:09 - Jun 9 with 492 views | Juzzie |
| England on 23:37 - Jun 7 by mart_Goblin |
Quite like Tuchel.
Played 3 won 3.
But after each game he has criticised this bunch individually and collectively.
Questioned their attitude and mentality today and they need that.
A lot of this bunch are caught up in the Sky/ Premier league over hype where they think they just have to turn up.
And that includes Bellingham who I think is part of the problem in why we are so stodgy.
We have decent players but not many top top players .
Not as good as they think they are and Tuchel has seen that . |
I think they are as good as they think they are, the problem is they just don't then go out and show it. I really just wonder how much all the money, razamatazz, social media involvement etc is just too much of a distraction.
We need to be brave in management too. Palmer was wasted at the Euro's. Schit the life out of the opposition and he spent more time on the bench. Should have played every game.
Players need letting off the leash, it's too pedestrian.
Spain were deserved winners but towards the end of the Final with it still 1-1 I thought we could just have sneaked it regardless of whether we 'deserved' it or not. It was criminal how Oyarzabel was allowed to come in from behind the defence after laying the ball out wide and get into a goal-side position to score the winner. I know it's win as a team and lose as a team but as good as a tournament he had Guehi slowed down and allowed him to do just that with ease. All Guehi had to do was get right in front of him (he was already in front of him), ball comes across and it's out for a corner at least. |  | | |
| England on 14:21 - Jun 9 with 355 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
| England on 23:37 - Jun 7 by mart_Goblin |
Quite like Tuchel.
Played 3 won 3.
But after each game he has criticised this bunch individually and collectively.
Questioned their attitude and mentality today and they need that.
A lot of this bunch are caught up in the Sky/ Premier league over hype where they think they just have to turn up.
And that includes Bellingham who I think is part of the problem in why we are so stodgy.
We have decent players but not many top top players .
Not as good as they think they are and Tuchel has seen that . |
Decent players but not top players you say martGoblin yet England are second or 3rd favorites to win the WC next year.
England have excellent players not only in the starting 11 but on the bench/squad and compared to Wales,Scotland,Northern Ireland and ROI its like another level of ability.
At the WC top teams knock each other out and that opens the door for England to put it all together and make a deep run to the final.
The opressive heat could hurt them of course but its the same for everyone |  | | |
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