| Manager situation 09:47 - Jun 8 with 58882 views | stainrods_elbow |
MC has been on GL for nearly 6 weeks now - and not a whisper from the club, not even to clarify what they propose to do with him (or he with them)! It's pathetic and unacceptable.
The club also, obviously, needs to be planning its pre-season and recruitment. We're supposed to be operating a professional entity, with buy-in from the fans. Pah!
What will/should happen next?
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| Manager situation on 18:50 - Jun 8 with 2455 views | kensalriser |
Who here likes to work for a control freak and wouldn't be looking for another job? |  |
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| Manager situation on 19:02 - Jun 8 with 2383 views | E15Hoop |
| Manager situation on 18:37 - Jun 8 by daveB |
My response would be so what if he looked for better jobs.
We're a development club our plan is to bring people in improve them and sell them for profit so one of the employees looking to make that happen should be a good thing
I'd also ask why people are so keen to leave at the first opportunity, Marti isn't the first to be keen to get the hell out of here when on the face of it everything looks rosey [Post edited 8 Jun 18:37]
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That's a very good point, Dave.
Even Richard Dobson was on a podcast a few weeks ago saying that Wild Thing and he were not told the full extent of the constraints they were going to be operating under and that they both felt they had been mis-sold the opportunity, and he's a lifelong R's fan as we know, who was made up to be offered the role. |  | | |
| Manager situation on 19:05 - Jun 8 with 2376 views | lassel |
| Manager situation on 16:17 - Jun 8 by Ned_Kennedys |
And what about the rumours he was sounding out Burnley and Sunderland a year ago after being here just half a season? Perhaps some of them are true: Dave Mc has confirmed he’s on gardening leave due to his West Brom approach. |
I mean if we don’t want a manager who sees us a stepping stone then we are at the coaxing Big Sam away from the breakfast buffet stage of recruiting. | | | |
| Manager situation on 19:54 - Jun 8 with 2185 views | 1JD |
| Manager situation on 15:50 - Jun 8 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
He was trying to leave last summer just 6 months after he joined. That doesn't smack of long term commitment to the cause. |
Nourry has developed a certain reputation that now precedes him. The fact that a manager as smart and humble as Marti was on the lookout early speaks volumes.
Additionally, any new incoming coach worth their salt will, without question, be picking up the phone to Marti - a well-respected peer and coach in the game, now unceremoniously placed on gardening leave - to ask the real question: what’s it actually like working under Nourry?” [Post edited 8 Jun 19:54]
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| Manager situation on 19:58 - Jun 8 with 2155 views | Northernr |
| Manager situation on 15:58 - Jun 8 by DavieQPR |
NDS. Nourry Derangement Syndrome. Blame him for everything without knowing any facts. If you think it then it must be true. |
With respect though mate there's similar derangement the other way.
There are certainly fans, posters on here, Twitter accounts for whom Nourry can do no right. And they refuse to give credit for anything. When there are really good signs - the development squad and his policies there getting rid of all the 20-something no hopers, listening on the pre-season tour thing and getting a good foreign friendly booked in, already significant interest in Varane. I've tried my best to always flag those things up when I think they are going well, because I am otherwise very negative about the current regime, and having sat in a few meetings with Nourry now really quite alarmed about what's going on. But it's not legitimate criticism if you don't acknowledge the good stuff, so I am trying to do that.
But there are also posters for whom Nourry can do no wrong, and personally I look at us at the moment and wonder if I'm on a different planet. I wonder what would have been the reaction if Les Ferdinand was overseeing this?
- We have no manager. The manager we had is on garden leave.
- We have made no signings. It's the second week of June, fine, I used to take the pis out of people losing their sht about signings in the second week of June. But this squad needs signings PLURAL. Preston, who I think we're in a fight with next year, have made four, including a left back from Charlton who I'd have loved here.
- What money we have to spend on those signings is doubtful, because when we did have some breathing room and headroom last summer we chucked big cash (for us) on Madsen and Celar.
- We were the last club in the league to issue a retained list, and when we did we just said "in negotiations" with everybody, even players we shouldn't be in negotiations with in a million years, and probably aren't. Part of a sustained communication plan to tell you and I as little as possible, as late as possible.
- We have a team that last year struggled for the most part. No pace, no height, no physicality. Won 3 of its last 13 games. From that its player of the year is apparently gone, one of its best attackers is gone, and Edwards who by far its best player is also gone.
- We have one pre-season friendly. We have non-league teams Tweeting out and selling tickets that they're playing QPR, and we've said nothing about any of it.
- We have no kit. No home kit until the first week of August. Small thing, but another sign we're not being well run, for me. Should be making revenue on that right now.
- The club stuck a four line statement out 40 days ago saying "we've stuck Cifuentes on garden leave, we understand your frustration, we'll get back to you". And then nothing. Other than "Jona" being given a new contract of REDACTED LENGTH.
Now I get that people are probably a bit fed up with doom mongers and people with axes to grind or whatever, and they're perhaps digging in the other way to counter that.
But as I asked on another thread, the FourFourTwo season preview provisional deadline is this week. If you were filling in the QPR bit (as I am) what would you put there? If you were them, having to predict out final finish, where would you put us? If Preston, Stoke, Swansea were behaving like us atm what would you be saying? I reckon a lot of the same people now telling me Nourry is doing great and sunlit uplands await would be saying "well they'll be below us for a start".
The good thing is there's loads of time. Month down the line, great new manager (I've liked a couple of the names linked), half a dozen signings... different picture entirely.
But whichever side you're on, you can't look at QPR atm and say this is normal, this is ideal, this is going smoothly, this is going well? Can you? You're kidding yourself if you are. If this was Preston we'd be pointing and saying "that lot are fcked".
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| Manager situation on 20:25 - Jun 8 with 2013 views | Match82 |
| Manager situation on 14:33 - Jun 8 by Ned_Kennedys |
Really do not want Cifuentes back: he doesn’t want to be here. |
I blame Nourry more than MC for the situation we are in though a little blame on both sides to be sure. But where we are now? Agree, no way I think it makes sense for him to come back, that would be incredibly dysfunctional. We need to move on and it's a case of damage limitation now. The worrying thing that the quality of manager candidate we are going to attract because of this mess is way lower than it would have been if this had been handled differently - and that's 100% on Nourry |  | | |
| Manager situation on 20:26 - Jun 8 with 2010 views | Northernr |
Tell you what, interesting exercise. Here's the questions 442 sent. Deadline Friday. What would you put if you were me?
Last season was (your opinion on your club's campaign)
The big talking point is
This season will be different because
I won’t be happy unless
Our key player will be (and why)
Our most underrated player is
Look out for (young player who could break through)
The opposition player I'd love here is
The opposition player who grinds my gears is (and why)
The active player I'd love to have back is (former player of your club)
The pantomime villain will be (could be someone at your club, or another club)
Fans think our owner is
The thing my club really gets right is
The one change I'd make would be (something off the pitch at your club, ideally)
A social media account to follow is (something related to your club, most likely not the official club account, maybe a fan or something fan related, apart from your own account)
The ground I'm most looking forward to visiting is
I'm least looking forward to playing (which club)
The fans' opinion of the gaffer is (how popular is he with fans? Is he under pressure? What are his strengths/weaknesses?)
If he left, he should be replaced by
We'll finish (which position in the table this season) | | | |
| Manager situation on 20:37 - Jun 8 with 1958 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Manager situation on 19:05 - Jun 8 by lassel |
I mean if we don’t want a manager who sees us a stepping stone then we are at the coaxing Big Sam away from the breakfast buffet stage of recruiting. |
Well fair enough but perhaps not after generously giving us a full 6 months of his time IF one of your many ITK opinions is correct and he was tarting himself around last summer. |  | | |
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| Manager situation on 20:39 - Jun 8 with 1944 views | Northernr |
| Manager situation on 20:37 - Jun 8 by Ned_Kennedys |
Well fair enough but perhaps not after generously giving us a full 6 months of his time IF one of your many ITK opinions is correct and he was tarting himself around last summer. |
Anything to say about the head of performance tarting himself around, being allowed to work remotely, then welcomed back with open arms after that (as it was always going to) went to sht?
Isn't that double standards? Hypocritical? We don't like Cifuentes, we've fallen out, so he talks to another club and we get a sledgehammer out. We're tight as arsecheeks with Ben, so he can work for the Brooklyn Nets in Dubai and keep his job.
Again, come on, step away from entrenched positions, how can that be justified? | | | |
| Manager situation on 20:42 - Jun 8 with 1922 views | Rsole |
| Manager situation on 20:26 - Jun 8 by Northernr |
Tell you what, interesting exercise. Here's the questions 442 sent. Deadline Friday. What would you put if you were me?
Last season was (your opinion on your club's campaign)
The big talking point is
This season will be different because
I won’t be happy unless
Our key player will be (and why)
Our most underrated player is
Look out for (young player who could break through)
The opposition player I'd love here is
The opposition player who grinds my gears is (and why)
The active player I'd love to have back is (former player of your club)
The pantomime villain will be (could be someone at your club, or another club)
Fans think our owner is
The thing my club really gets right is
The one change I'd make would be (something off the pitch at your club, ideally)
A social media account to follow is (something related to your club, most likely not the official club account, maybe a fan or something fan related, apart from your own account)
The ground I'm most looking forward to visiting is
I'm least looking forward to playing (which club)
The fans' opinion of the gaffer is (how popular is he with fans? Is he under pressure? What are his strengths/weaknesses?)
If he left, he should be replaced by
We'll finish (which position in the table this season) |
Can you give a ‘no comment’ response ?
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| Manager situation on 20:43 - Jun 8 with 1922 views | HammersmithR |
I’m amazed we are 2 weeks from pre season and we have no manager, 1 pre-season game announced, our squad is significantly worse than last year as it stands, the transfer window is open and we have signed a 17 year old for the Academy team. The summer is turning into a farce. A new manager will want to bring in his own players. He will want to plan for his own brand / style of football. We are I would say at least 10 players from being competitive next year. We need multiple players from all over the pitch to improve. We need new full backs, 2 centre backs, 3 midfielders, 3 or 4 attacking players and at least 2 proper strikers. Time is ticking. We have had no update from the board. We leave things to so last minute. I would just love for once to be in the mix for going up. Every poxy year we are in the mix for relegation and the way it’s going then is suspect we will spend another season near the bottom. | | | |
| Manager situation on 20:44 - Jun 8 with 1897 views | numptydumpty |
Under Nourrys watch there have been positives ie the youth potential and some decent signings but some horrific ones also.
But this gardening leave decision just hurts the club .
If he wanted Cifuentes out, sack him and have a replacement ready to come in quick smart.
Even for those that are very pro Nourry surely can recognise this decision not only is daft ie no chance to build for next season , managers are being snapped up by other clubs but this situation ongoing is putting off players and manager from coming here.
It's a sackable offence by Nourry for me now.
It's just stupid whatever way you look at this. [Post edited 8 Jun 20:54]
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| Manager situation on 20:45 - Jun 8 with 1893 views | BrianMcCarthy |
I agree completely with the chat about retracting from entrenched positions.
All I can think, though, is that we shouldn't be thinking about Cifuentes or Nourry.
We should, I feel, be thinking about the list of challenges ahead of us right now, and that the Board and Owners are entrusting it all to one employee who has one year of experience.
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| Manager situation on 20:49 - Jun 8 with 1865 views | Northernr |
| Manager situation on 20:45 - Jun 8 by BrianMcCarthy |
I agree completely with the chat about retracting from entrenched positions.
All I can think, though, is that we shouldn't be thinking about Cifuentes or Nourry.
We should, I feel, be thinking about the list of challenges ahead of us right now, and that the Board and Owners are entrusting it all to one employee who has one year of experience.
edit - grammar check. [Post edited 8 Jun 20:59]
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| Manager situation on 20:51 - Jun 8 with 1853 views | lassel |
| Manager situation on 20:45 - Jun 8 by BrianMcCarthy |
I agree completely with the chat about retracting from entrenched positions.
All I can think, though, is that we shouldn't be thinking about Cifuentes or Nourry.
We should, I feel, be thinking about the list of challenges ahead of us right now, and that the Board and Owners are entrusting it all to one employee who has one year of experience.
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They’re still entrusting it to Hoos in fairness Brian who is happy to let Nourry appear to be the main man as it gets the fans off his back. | | | |
| Manager situation on 20:52 - Jun 8 with 1828 views | lassel |
| Manager situation on 20:37 - Jun 8 by Ned_Kennedys |
Well fair enough but perhaps not after generously giving us a full 6 months of his time IF one of your many ITK opinions is correct and he was tarting himself around last summer. |
Any up and coming manager who we might be able to attract this summer will have their agent from day 1 out there looking for a better employer. It’s the nature of the beast as a stepping stone club.
Or as said, we can go get Big Sam and convince ourselves he’s glad to be here. | | | |
| Manager situation on 20:53 - Jun 8 with 1815 views | Pdog |
Without wanting to sound like a total on-the-fence wet wipe, I keep thinking of that old Chinese proverb where the horse runs off, but brings back another, the son breaks his leg on the horse, but then avoids the army... good news, bad news, who knows? Let's see how it pans out.
I liked Marti. Came across very well, kept us up twice, there were a handful of standout performances and boy was it dire at times. However he worked with what he had.
Same with Nourry, I’ve liked bits, questioned others. What’s really gone on behind the scenes? We don’t know. Ultimately, he’ll be judged on the big decisions and the next 5-6 months will show if he got this summer right. Right now, there’s just no way to know.
So yeah, the lack of progress thus far is frustrating, but football moves fast. Quiet doesn’t always mean clueless. Let’s see what the picture looks like in a few weeks, things can change quickly. |  | | |
| Manager situation on 20:58 - Jun 8 with 1787 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Manager situation on 20:51 - Jun 8 by lassel |
They’re still entrusting it to Hoos in fairness Brian who is happy to let Nourry appear to be the main man as it gets the fans off his back. |
Again, Lassel, you're stating something as a fact when you have no proof of that. By your own admission you're going on what your wife or your two new sources are telling you and they're going on what other people are telling them.
But even if your guess is right, it's still a highly dangerous state of affairs. [Post edited 8 Jun 21:00]
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| Manager situation on 21:09 - Jun 8 with 1710 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Manager situation on 20:52 - Jun 8 by lassel |
Any up and coming manager who we might be able to attract this summer will have their agent from day 1 out there looking for a better employer. It’s the nature of the beast as a stepping stone club.
Or as said, we can go get Big Sam and convince ourselves he’s glad to be here. |
Like Beale did you mean? | | | |
| Manager situation on 21:14 - Jun 8 with 1673 views | Northernr |
| Manager situation on 21:09 - Jun 8 by Ned_Kennedys |
Like Beale did you mean? |
Or, Ben Williams.
You can't keep ignoring it. | | | |
| Manager situation on 21:16 - Jun 8 with 1659 views | Burnleyhoop |
| Manager situation on 19:58 - Jun 8 by Northernr |
With respect though mate there's similar derangement the other way.
There are certainly fans, posters on here, Twitter accounts for whom Nourry can do no right. And they refuse to give credit for anything. When there are really good signs - the development squad and his policies there getting rid of all the 20-something no hopers, listening on the pre-season tour thing and getting a good foreign friendly booked in, already significant interest in Varane. I've tried my best to always flag those things up when I think they are going well, because I am otherwise very negative about the current regime, and having sat in a few meetings with Nourry now really quite alarmed about what's going on. But it's not legitimate criticism if you don't acknowledge the good stuff, so I am trying to do that.
But there are also posters for whom Nourry can do no wrong, and personally I look at us at the moment and wonder if I'm on a different planet. I wonder what would have been the reaction if Les Ferdinand was overseeing this?
- We have no manager. The manager we had is on garden leave.
- We have made no signings. It's the second week of June, fine, I used to take the pis out of people losing their sht about signings in the second week of June. But this squad needs signings PLURAL. Preston, who I think we're in a fight with next year, have made four, including a left back from Charlton who I'd have loved here.
- What money we have to spend on those signings is doubtful, because when we did have some breathing room and headroom last summer we chucked big cash (for us) on Madsen and Celar.
- We were the last club in the league to issue a retained list, and when we did we just said "in negotiations" with everybody, even players we shouldn't be in negotiations with in a million years, and probably aren't. Part of a sustained communication plan to tell you and I as little as possible, as late as possible.
- We have a team that last year struggled for the most part. No pace, no height, no physicality. Won 3 of its last 13 games. From that its player of the year is apparently gone, one of its best attackers is gone, and Edwards who by far its best player is also gone.
- We have one pre-season friendly. We have non-league teams Tweeting out and selling tickets that they're playing QPR, and we've said nothing about any of it.
- We have no kit. No home kit until the first week of August. Small thing, but another sign we're not being well run, for me. Should be making revenue on that right now.
- The club stuck a four line statement out 40 days ago saying "we've stuck Cifuentes on garden leave, we understand your frustration, we'll get back to you". And then nothing. Other than "Jona" being given a new contract of REDACTED LENGTH.
Now I get that people are probably a bit fed up with doom mongers and people with axes to grind or whatever, and they're perhaps digging in the other way to counter that.
But as I asked on another thread, the FourFourTwo season preview provisional deadline is this week. If you were filling in the QPR bit (as I am) what would you put there? If you were them, having to predict out final finish, where would you put us? If Preston, Stoke, Swansea were behaving like us atm what would you be saying? I reckon a lot of the same people now telling me Nourry is doing great and sunlit uplands await would be saying "well they'll be below us for a start".
The good thing is there's loads of time. Month down the line, great new manager (I've liked a couple of the names linked), half a dozen signings... different picture entirely.
But whichever side you're on, you can't look at QPR atm and say this is normal, this is ideal, this is going smoothly, this is going well? Can you? You're kidding yourself if you are. If this was Preston we'd be pointing and saying "that lot are fcked".
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You really have to hope Nourry knows what he is doing, because as it stands, we look in big trouble with the malaise that appears to be setting in.
The ticking clock is getting louder and shit seriously needs to be sorted. The blame or the glory will lay squarely with him, and him alone. | | | |
| Manager situation on 21:19 - Jun 8 with 1637 views | Beans |
| Manager situation on 19:58 - Jun 8 by Northernr |
With respect though mate there's similar derangement the other way.
There are certainly fans, posters on here, Twitter accounts for whom Nourry can do no right. And they refuse to give credit for anything. When there are really good signs - the development squad and his policies there getting rid of all the 20-something no hopers, listening on the pre-season tour thing and getting a good foreign friendly booked in, already significant interest in Varane. I've tried my best to always flag those things up when I think they are going well, because I am otherwise very negative about the current regime, and having sat in a few meetings with Nourry now really quite alarmed about what's going on. But it's not legitimate criticism if you don't acknowledge the good stuff, so I am trying to do that.
But there are also posters for whom Nourry can do no wrong, and personally I look at us at the moment and wonder if I'm on a different planet. I wonder what would have been the reaction if Les Ferdinand was overseeing this?
- We have no manager. The manager we had is on garden leave.
- We have made no signings. It's the second week of June, fine, I used to take the pis out of people losing their sht about signings in the second week of June. But this squad needs signings PLURAL. Preston, who I think we're in a fight with next year, have made four, including a left back from Charlton who I'd have loved here.
- What money we have to spend on those signings is doubtful, because when we did have some breathing room and headroom last summer we chucked big cash (for us) on Madsen and Celar.
- We were the last club in the league to issue a retained list, and when we did we just said "in negotiations" with everybody, even players we shouldn't be in negotiations with in a million years, and probably aren't. Part of a sustained communication plan to tell you and I as little as possible, as late as possible.
- We have a team that last year struggled for the most part. No pace, no height, no physicality. Won 3 of its last 13 games. From that its player of the year is apparently gone, one of its best attackers is gone, and Edwards who by far its best player is also gone.
- We have one pre-season friendly. We have non-league teams Tweeting out and selling tickets that they're playing QPR, and we've said nothing about any of it.
- We have no kit. No home kit until the first week of August. Small thing, but another sign we're not being well run, for me. Should be making revenue on that right now.
- The club stuck a four line statement out 40 days ago saying "we've stuck Cifuentes on garden leave, we understand your frustration, we'll get back to you". And then nothing. Other than "Jona" being given a new contract of REDACTED LENGTH.
Now I get that people are probably a bit fed up with doom mongers and people with axes to grind or whatever, and they're perhaps digging in the other way to counter that.
But as I asked on another thread, the FourFourTwo season preview provisional deadline is this week. If you were filling in the QPR bit (as I am) what would you put there? If you were them, having to predict out final finish, where would you put us? If Preston, Stoke, Swansea were behaving like us atm what would you be saying? I reckon a lot of the same people now telling me Nourry is doing great and sunlit uplands await would be saying "well they'll be below us for a start".
The good thing is there's loads of time. Month down the line, great new manager (I've liked a couple of the names linked), half a dozen signings... different picture entirely.
But whichever side you're on, you can't look at QPR atm and say this is normal, this is ideal, this is going smoothly, this is going well? Can you? You're kidding yourself if you are. If this was Preston we'd be pointing and saying "that lot are fcked".
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That we have made no signings. Do you think it's possible or likely even that what you could instead say there is we have announced no signings?
Remember last year with Morrison clearly having been there for a quite a while before they announced it. I'm guessing (or just hoping) same thing is happening here. Could be that they waiting to confirm manager situation before announcing the signings. Dave Mc on his recent podcast seemed to suggest manager was imminent.
On your comment on no height I take a different view to you on that. If it were true I think we would have had a problem on set pieces but we ranked pretty well I believe on both attacking and defending them. The club has clearly taken the stance they don't mind the wingers being small. And we had 4 small blokes in Saito, Chair, Smyth and Dembele competing for two places. But outside of the wingers each position had at least one 6 foot plus option with the exception of left back and I think Paal always managed to cope well for his height.
Edward's is gone yes (credit to the club for pulling off the best loan signing we've had since Kyle Walker. But Clarke-Salter was the season before best player and he's back (I hope). And one of our best attackers may be gone. But Kelman the best attacker in League One last year will be here and that's something we should be pleased about (imagine the stick we'd give the club if we had finally given up on him and released him before last season)
Completely agree it's odd about the friendly announcements and unnecessary/probably harmful financially about the kits.
With your gripe about the manager statement then silence. There is probably a legal part to it
Let’s have a look at us and Preston as we get to first game of the season and 1st September because Preston certainly aren’t a team I’m looking at longingly | | | |
| Manager situation on 21:21 - Jun 8 with 1627 views | Northernr |
| Manager situation on 21:19 - Jun 8 by Beans |
That we have made no signings. Do you think it's possible or likely even that what you could instead say there is we have announced no signings?
Remember last year with Morrison clearly having been there for a quite a while before they announced it. I'm guessing (or just hoping) same thing is happening here. Could be that they waiting to confirm manager situation before announcing the signings. Dave Mc on his recent podcast seemed to suggest manager was imminent.
On your comment on no height I take a different view to you on that. If it were true I think we would have had a problem on set pieces but we ranked pretty well I believe on both attacking and defending them. The club has clearly taken the stance they don't mind the wingers being small. And we had 4 small blokes in Saito, Chair, Smyth and Dembele competing for two places. But outside of the wingers each position had at least one 6 foot plus option with the exception of left back and I think Paal always managed to cope well for his height.
Edward's is gone yes (credit to the club for pulling off the best loan signing we've had since Kyle Walker. But Clarke-Salter was the season before best player and he's back (I hope). And one of our best attackers may be gone. But Kelman the best attacker in League One last year will be here and that's something we should be pleased about (imagine the stick we'd give the club if we had finally given up on him and released him before last season)
Completely agree it's odd about the friendly announcements and unnecessary/probably harmful financially about the kits.
With your gripe about the manager statement then silence. There is probably a legal part to it
Let’s have a look at us and Preston as we get to first game of the season and 1st September because Preston certainly aren’t a team I’m looking at longingly |
How interesting.
Welcome, favourite cheese? | | | |
| Manager situation on 21:23 - Jun 8 with 1611 views | Hunterhoop |
If any manager does remotely well at QPR they will be looking at opportunities to move to a club higher in the pyramid, just as a player would.
It’s more exaggerated for a manager/HC, because, if the tide turns, or they fall out with the DOF/Chairman (or both!), they know the writing will be on the wall. They need to move onwards and upwards before the axe falls.
What manager out there, anywhere in the world, will come in to QPR slumming it in the bottom half of the Championship, trying to meet FFP, with hardly any sellable assets, little budget to bring players in on a fee, an absent owner, a novice DOF, and then, if the do fairly well (par the course, so to speak), will go “you know what, I’ll stay here for my career.”
If any manager succeeds here, he will leave. That is a fine. It’s what it has to be until the club has progressed. But even them? look at Brentford; Frank will move on soon. Same for Bournemouth’s fella. It is the nature of the game.
You’d much rather have good people coming here, helping us succeed/progress, and then moving on for their own good, than have a load of mediocre fellas, or downright rubbish ones, come through the door, fail, set us back years or relegate us, and then they move on (sacked).
Enjoy the good times and the gradual progress. Don’t be bitter if the good ones look to move on. Worry about bad ones coming through the door.
Or cut your nose off to spite your face.
Cifuentes’ agent had been touting him around last summer to several clubs. His agent had spoken to WBA this summer. I’ve had both these points on very good authority and both from two sources, one very much ITK.
But so what? He performed a miracle in his first season to keep us up. And by then I understand his relationship with Nourry was already faltering/soured. If that was you in your own career, with a big achievement under your belt but you could see you aren’t going to get along with your boss and you don’t trust him, you’d look for a quick exit to somewhere better.
The issue is why is our DOF/CEO driving a manager achieving pretty well for us to look elsewhere? If the manager liked his boss and they were truly aligned, it would make it a much harder decision for them to explore other opportunities. They’d see a (positive) future, potential, etc, for both themselves and the club.
Good managers don’t look to leave organisations they think are on a great trajectory….
We are going to have the same issues with whoever comes in next. Unless they are awful (in which case they’ll still move on but we’ll be a lot worse off). But if they are good, and they feel they are pushing water uphill, they’ll try to jump ship too. |  | | |
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| Manager situation on 21:21 - Jun 8 by Northernr |
How interesting.
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