| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) 16:02 - Jun 26 with 10794 views | sdm1508 |
Sorry about that, my initial post only did the title. Anyway, 23 year old centre back signed from Reading [Post edited 26 Jun 16:06]
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| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 21:18 - Jun 26 with 1545 views | Rsole |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 20:26 - Jun 26 by Beans |
How can you call me a troll when you say that wasn’t Les’ squad. Les left 6 months in Feb 2023. The Watford game was August 2023. We were just over one month into the first transfer window after his decade in charge at the club. With majority of that time him working with a far bigger budget than we have now. To try and rewrite history to say it wasn’t Les and Hoos squad is just not credible.
And the evil Les was obviously a tongue in cheek reference so no need for the dramatic insult because you’re losing a debate
The arguments against Nourry were always weak at best and they are being proved so, and being happy about our CEO proving himself asbeing good at his job is obviously a good thing and something a fan of this club should be happy about and anyone can that doesn’t see that or gets triggered by him doing well may as well have cnt tattooed across their forehead |
Jog on, fella. |  |
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| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 21:20 - Jun 26 with 1533 views | Hunterhoop |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 19:05 - Jun 26 by Beans |
You are only triggered because I made a fair point in that the team that 10 years of evil Les and Hoos turned out vs Watford on the opening game in 2023 is miles and miles worse than the team Nourry has put together in one and a half years to play Preston in 6 weeks or so.
To say I’m not a QPR fan is immature at best |
You do realise Hoos advocated for Nourry’s appointment, is still heavily involved and acts as Nourry’s mentor. They are tight. |  | | |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 21:27 - Jun 26 with 1473 views | WatfordR |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 21:17 - Jun 26 by Hunterhoop |
Not Ferdinand, tbf. He resigned before that summer’s recruitment as he didn’t agree with the direction. It was Ainsworth at the helm, backed by Hoos (and Bhatia). And Nourry was already working behind the scenes to advise on recruitment. The club hired Ben Williams that summer, Nourry’s mate and his recommendation!
Why would Nourry not have been involved in that summer’s playing recruitment? Retexo were firmly advising and auditing the club at that point. He was appointed CEO 6 months later. Would be surprising if he hadn’t had some input into those signings that summer… [Post edited 26 Jun 21:31]
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| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 21:35 - Jun 26 with 1450 views | ChrisNW6 |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 21:27 - Jun 26 by WatfordR |
I'm sure LF was still here when Ainsworth was appointed |
Definitely not a Les decision.
Us fans, probably got Ainsworth hired. | | | |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 21:39 - Jun 26 with 1433 views | JamesB1979 |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 21:17 - Jun 26 by Hunterhoop |
Not Ferdinand, tbf. He resigned before that summer’s recruitment as he didn’t agree with the direction. It was Ainsworth at the helm, backed by Hoos (and Bhatia). And Nourry was already working behind the scenes to advise on recruitment. The club hired Ben Williams that summer, Nourry’s mate and his recommendation!
Why would Nourry not have been involved in that summer’s playing recruitment? Retexo were firmly advising and auditing the club at that point. He was appointed CEO 6 months later. Would be surprising if he hadn’t had some input into those signings that summer… [Post edited 26 Jun 21:31]
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I don’t want to get into the Nourry stuff. But you and others have to admit that the team that Gareth has vs Watford was for a large part built on Les and Hoos regime. Yes, we had injuries and a summer transfer window. But you’re not going to sign that many 1st team starting players on 1 transfer window. | | | |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 21:40 - Jun 26 with 1428 views | JamesB1979 |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 21:18 - Jun 26 by Rsole |
Jog on, fella. |
“Jog on” 🤦♂️ | | | |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 21:40 - Jun 26 with 1428 views | WatfordR |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 21:35 - Jun 26 by ChrisNW6 |
Definitely not a Les decision.
Us fans, probably got Ainsworth hired. |
Don't know if Les had anything to do with Ainsworth's appointment, but I can't remember many on here saying it was a good appointment. i think to most it was clearly an awful decision. | | | |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 21:49 - Jun 26 with 1403 views | ChrisNW6 |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 21:40 - Jun 26 by WatfordR |
Don't know if Les had anything to do with Ainsworth's appointment, but I can't remember many on here saying it was a good appointment. i think to most it was clearly an awful decision. |
I think we had run out of options and the squad needed something different. Ended as most of us feared.
I remember the majority of fans mostly supportive and happy at the time, although worried about Ainsworth's legacy being on the line. | | | |
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| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 21:59 - Jun 26 with 1341 views | ted_hendrix |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 21:40 - Jun 26 by WatfordR |
Don't know if Les had anything to do with Ainsworth's appointment, but I can't remember many on here saying it was a good appointment. i think to most it was clearly an awful decision. |
When GA was first appointed I was delighted and said so on here.
His appointment turned out to be a disaster, It turned out for me that I couldn't wait to see the back of the bloke, here was an ex player of ours who I remember trying to tackle an opposition player seconds after he'd broke his leg, I also recall GA on the floor in our penalty box trying to tackle an opposition player with his head, a proper Man's Man (apologies to any Women reading this).
Who didnt love Les as a player or Wilkins or Ainsworth?
I've waffled too much now and I've forgotten the point I was trying to make.
Anyway welcome Amadou Mbengue |  |
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| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 22:20 - Jun 26 with 1265 views | KensalT |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 18:14 - Jun 26 by Beans |
Really looks like we are putting a nice squad together. Good character, pace and ability
Contrast this squad already with the team we walked out to face Watford with first game of the season under Ainsworth in August 23. What an absolute shower Ferdinand and Hoos left us with there
The arguments to make against Nourry really are getting harder to make. |
QPR made a lot of signings last summer.
I think it's fair to say that squad was on Nourry.
Certainly the lack of physicality and the lack of cover in the strikers and full backs is a direct result of Nourry's decision making.
Since last season we have added one player to the squad - two if you want to count Vale.
Some experienced and well respected writers on QPR described last season's squad as "crap" and "the worst squad we've ever had".
It is far too early to be making bold statements about how good Nourry's next squad might be just because we have signed one decent player who can run and has a bit of bite about him.
We all want QPR to succeed but I don't believe Sir Les would have given us the dog's breakfast of a squad we had last season.
Nourry still has a lot to prove before he can claim to be a better DoF than Les Ferdinand. [Post edited 26 Jun 22:26]
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| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 00:20 - Jun 27 with 1112 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Don’t wrestle with pigs lads. |  | | |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 00:22 - Jun 27 with 1111 views | 1BobbyHazell |
Beans you are one weird brother.
We're all excited about the new signing and then you come and try to spoil it by with your Party Political broadcast, cherry picking the worst squad in Les' 10 years here( I notice you didn't pick on the squad that pushed for promotion), and the usual defaulting to insulting people, astonishing arrogance (dont think people have forgotten about being called conspiracy theorists en masse in about your 3rd post on here) and making weird proclamations about how everyone must now think about Nourry.
As his representative, you're actually making it harder to like him because you are so arrogant and unpleasant. It really isn't helping the rumours about his work personality and ways with your posts representing him.
I'm excited by this signing, it looks like there'll be more to come and I can't wait to see what the new manager does. But please less of the demands about how people see Nourry, less of the insults and definitely less of the severely unearned superiority complex.
You're not very good at all this and you leave a bitter taste.
Anyway uuuurrrrsssss! |  | | |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 08:11 - Jun 27 with 866 views | Beans |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 21:10 - Jun 26 by Stainrod |
Surely its for others to judge whether you made a fair point? In my judgement you made a partially fair one.
The team v Preston should be stronger than the abysmal one that opened against Watford a couple of years back.
But Nourry's first summer window coincided with the first year in the 3 yr FFP cycle whereas that Ferdinand one was at the end of a cycle when our budget was smaller than that of the Swiss navy.
Relative to spend, Madsen and Cellar must be two of the least successful signings we have made since Premier League days. Relative to the years they were here, Ferdinand/ Hoos didn't buy too many players at those prices (on huge long contracts). Last summer's window contained some good signings, but the lion's share of that budget was on Madsen and Cellar. That window was, for us, a huge opportunity with our biggest budget in years (and probably for two or three more years to come). I wouldn't quite say he blew it, but it should have been much, much better.
From vague memory we were injury ravaged for that opener at Watford so not an entirely accurate reflection. For balance, Nourry's squad had so many holes Marti had to play work experience lads like Morgan, Kolli, Lloyd, Bennie.
Nourry has done plenty right. And unlike most on here I really don't give a toss about the lack of tranparency; results and success are all that matter. But having to pay off a manager he had only recently renewed was a debacle, as have been his two biggest transfers. Maybe he is learning, but the record to date is probably best summed up as "mixed".
I leave others to decide whether this is a fair point. [Post edited 26 Jun 21:17]
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Just to correct your point in your 3rd paragraph there. As you don’t understand the FFP rules. It is not a fixed three year block and start again 1,2,3. It is a continuous rolling three year cycle. Every season is year 3 of a cycle
The team vs Watford had only 3 signings out of the 14 who weren’t made by Ferdinand. Can’t buy into any of the arguments made here against it being a line up he was largely responsible for
Anyway, hoping Poku gets over the line today. Feeling more and more positive about next season | | | |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 08:36 - Jun 27 with 797 views | wombat |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 18:22 - Jun 26 by BklynRanger |
You've auto-sent that at least a week too early |
I do love theaverage fans knowledge of every player whos playing football in the world right now by our fans , hes brilliant hes a great character, he this hes that , before they was linked most fans havent got a clue who the players are coming in , are they a good influence in the dressing room. Are they good in training ,Have we ever seen them kick a ball . yet post a rumour that somebody is signing thats the squad getting better and stronger. come on apart from nourry whos playing football manager 24/7 ?.
its brilliant reading watching some of the fans with more sauces than a discount aisle in lidls profess the guys cooking . HMS Pi$$ the leaagueis my fav right now.
oh look he was brillaint in the australian league so he must be brilliant .
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| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 08:58 - Jun 27 with 742 views | dmm |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 08:36 - Jun 27 by wombat |
I do love theaverage fans knowledge of every player whos playing football in the world right now by our fans , hes brilliant hes a great character, he this hes that , before they was linked most fans havent got a clue who the players are coming in , are they a good influence in the dressing room. Are they good in training ,Have we ever seen them kick a ball . yet post a rumour that somebody is signing thats the squad getting better and stronger. come on apart from nourry whos playing football manager 24/7 ?.
its brilliant reading watching some of the fans with more sauces than a discount aisle in lidls profess the guys cooking . HMS Pi$$ the leaagueis my fav right now.
oh look he was brillaint in the australian league so he must be brilliant .
its comedy gold |
A fair point wombat but there is a lot of information out there about footballers if people want to do a bit of research. Making an initial judgement on a new signing based on that is both reasonable and a bit of fun. After all, this is a football messageboard and it's one of the things we want to do. |  | | |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 09:08 - Jun 27 with 705 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 08:36 - Jun 27 by wombat |
I do love theaverage fans knowledge of every player whos playing football in the world right now by our fans , hes brilliant hes a great character, he this hes that , before they was linked most fans havent got a clue who the players are coming in , are they a good influence in the dressing room. Are they good in training ,Have we ever seen them kick a ball . yet post a rumour that somebody is signing thats the squad getting better and stronger. come on apart from nourry whos playing football manager 24/7 ?.
its brilliant reading watching some of the fans with more sauces than a discount aisle in lidls profess the guys cooking . HMS Pi$$ the leaagueis my fav right now.
oh look he was brillaint in the australian league so he must be brilliant .
its comedy gold |
It’s a football forum.
Should we stick to Frankie Knuckles and favourite garden wildlife?
There are no James Richardsons here. | | | |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 09:24 - Jun 27 with 673 views | BklynRanger |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 08:58 - Jun 27 by dmm |
A fair point wombat but there is a lot of information out there about footballers if people want to do a bit of research. Making an initial judgement on a new signing based on that is both reasonable and a bit of fun. After all, this is a football messageboard and it's one of the things we want to do. |
I took him to be referring to people talking about how much better it's all looking already, when we really have no idea yet.
Rather than individual player talk - which I too greatly enjoy :) |  | | |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 09:28 - Jun 27 with 649 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 09:24 - Jun 27 by BklynRanger |
I took him to be referring to people talking about how much better it's all looking already, when we really have no idea yet.
Rather than individual player talk - which I too greatly enjoy :) |
If this is the case I apologise for my snarky remark. | | | |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 09:28 - Jun 27 with 648 views | wombat |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 09:24 - Jun 27 by BklynRanger |
I took him to be referring to people talking about how much better it's all looking already, when we really have no idea yet.
Rather than individual player talk - which I too greatly enjoy :) |
sorry didnt make my selaf clear, not enough caffine this morning , thankfully this forum has very few of the cooking with nourry brigade on here . and yes its guess work , the club approach is roll the dice now his numbers look good so who knows what will happen | |
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| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 09:36 - Jun 27 with 613 views | paulparker |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 17:27 - Jun 26 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Great signing it seems.
Who is on the way out though? JCS? |
Hopefully
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| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 09:46 - Jun 27 with 567 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 09:36 - Jun 27 by paulparker |
Hopefully
We cannot keep paying him to be injured all the time |
I imagine he'll go right back, freeing JD to revert to the centre next to either JCS or Morrison. Don't think we'll see much of Cook this season. Mbengue can cover.
Alfie Gilchrist is another QPR are interested in. His family want him to stay local if released from Chelsea, so we might be in with a chance there, but money talks I suppose.
In fairness JCS had his best season when Ben Williams was full-time, so we might see more of him this. | |
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| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 09:58 - Jun 27 with 552 views | terryb |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 19:05 - Jun 26 by Beans |
You are only triggered because I made a fair point in that the team that 10 years of evil Les and Hoos turned out vs Watford on the opening game in 2023 is miles and miles worse than the team Nourry has put together in one and a half years to play Preston in 6 weeks or so.
To say I’m not a QPR fan is immature at best |
Now you have returned, will you get round to replying to my post on the thread that you previously posted on?
I do agree that the squad is better than what we had at Watford two seasons ago, but it is much of an improvement on what was at the club when Nourry was appointed? The arrival of Cook & Colback certainly had improved us, but I concede that Nourry had arrived before Dunne was converted to right back. Our defence in the second half of that season was definitely better than what we showed last season. | | | |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 10:01 - Jun 27 with 529 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 09:46 - Jun 27 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
I imagine he'll go right back, freeing JD to revert to the centre next to either JCS or Morrison. Don't think we'll see much of Cook this season. Mbengue can cover.
Alfie Gilchrist is another QPR are interested in. His family want him to stay local if released from Chelsea, so we might be in with a chance there, but money talks I suppose.
In fairness JCS had his best season when Ben Williams was full-time, so we might see more of him this. |
He's left footed isn't he? | | | |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 10:11 - Jun 27 with 491 views | KensalT |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 09:58 - Jun 27 by terryb |
Now you have returned, will you get round to replying to my post on the thread that you previously posted on?
I do agree that the squad is better than what we had at Watford two seasons ago, but it is much of an improvement on what was at the club when Nourry was appointed? The arrival of Cook & Colback certainly had improved us, but I concede that Nourry had arrived before Dunne was converted to right back. Our defence in the second half of that season was definitely better than what we showed last season. |
"I concede that Nourry had arrived before Dunne was converted to right back."
That's not entirely correct.
Ainsworth tried Dunne at RB back in April 2023 (before Nourry got his foot in the door) and got slaughtered for it!
Ainsworth defended the decision by saying that Dunne had previous experience playing RB:
https://www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/hell-do-a-good-job-ainsworth-backs-qpr-man-f
"Dunne, usually a centre-back, had played at right-back previously.
“It was the first time he has played there at QPR but he played there many times in a loan spell at Accrington Stanley and for Ireland as well,” Ainsworth explained.
“It’s not a role he’s unaccustomed to. I think centre-halves should be able to play as right-back as long as they have the physical attributes, and I thought Jimmy did well there." | | | |
| Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t) on 10:13 - Jun 27 with 486 views | QPR_Jim |
Wasn't that summer part of the first set of accounts in a rolling 3 year window without the Eze money? We drastically had to cut our costs to avoid a breach with Colback and Cooks contracts weighted towards the second year, yet you claim we had a bigger budget then that we do now? Not sure that's true.
I'm not a fan of Nourry but it's not really the individual signings that I'm most concerned about, he's proven to have mixed results but no worse than LF or when we left it to managers (a couple of expensive flops in Celar and Madsen excluded), possibly due to the continuity of Belk across those periods. The weakness seems to be composition of the squad, lack of cover or quality in areas and lack of physicality and speed. The main concern is his control over everything, stopping interviews with the manager, bs forums that he uses to announce contracts rather than listen to fans, the hypocrisy around Ben Williams, potential conflict of interests with Retexo clients, the use of websites he's set up to release information. It's all concerning as it seems like un-necessary things that can and probably will cause the club headaches down the road and undo any of the good work he's doing.
Anyway, this signing looks like a good prospect and a good value addition, so hopefully he can add something to the squad and develop into a good player for us. |  | | |
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