| Walsh v Nardi 18:43 - Aug 9 with 11119 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Thought it deserves its own thread.
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| Walsh v Nardi on 00:30 - Aug 10 with 3018 views | NW5Hoop |
If Walsh kicks all season like he did today, he is going to cost us a load of matches. Never mind the actual goalkeeping, his distribution was absolutely awful today. |  | | |
| Walsh v Nardi on 03:41 - Aug 10 with 2833 views | PlanetHonneywood |
Huge season for Walsh which we've made harder by not getting him out on loan last season.
But if Nardi leaves, then in the absence of bringing in a stop gap, we'd be extremely vulnerable until the next TW.
Putting first 'proper' game nerves aside, he's going to have to get his act together fast because if he continues to look edgy, he's going to be targeted real soon. |  |
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| Walsh v Nardi on 06:41 - Aug 10 with 2735 views | Gus_iom |
Nardi was actually way down the championship list at shot stopping, 25th of the 31 who played 10 games or more, I heard, 20th of 22 when I googled.
And he sticks to his line religiously.
There was a point late on yesterday when Preston put a cross in, Walsh claimed and won a free kick anyway. If Nardi had been playing, that situation would probably have played out longer.
Listening to Gabriel Sutton's championship team reviews, there's going to be a lot of teams with a big man up top and balls flying in to him. | |
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| Walsh v Nardi on 07:13 - Aug 10 with 2697 views | Esox_Lucius |
| Walsh v Nardi on 00:30 - Aug 10 by NW5Hoop |
If Walsh kicks all season like he did today, he is going to cost us a load of matches. Never mind the actual goalkeeping, his distribution was absolutely awful today. |
What if yesterday's kicking was an aberration? A definite upgrade to Nardi when commanding his area and much better in the defensive triangles when looking to draw the press. |  |
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| Walsh v Nardi on 08:23 - Aug 10 with 2603 views | stevec |
| Walsh v Nardi on 06:41 - Aug 10 by Gus_iom |
Nardi was actually way down the championship list at shot stopping, 25th of the 31 who played 10 games or more, I heard, 20th of 22 when I googled.
And he sticks to his line religiously.
There was a point late on yesterday when Preston put a cross in, Walsh claimed and won a free kick anyway. If Nardi had been playing, that situation would probably have played out longer.
Listening to Gabriel Sutton's championship team reviews, there's going to be a lot of teams with a big man up top and balls flying in to him. |
Never too convinced by those kind of goalkeeping statistics.
For a start, you’re only as good at shot stopping as your defence allows in many instances. Take yesterday, the fella was allowed clean through the middle with a bouncing ball in front of him. Keeper pretty much has to come out (thought once he came he should have just gambled and ran at him even though he had little chance of stopping the goal, but that’s by the by). Anyway, the forward had one glaring choice, time to do it, and promptly lobbed him.
Had we had an actual defender there, they’d have made a much more concerted effort to stop the fella and that would more likely have resulted in a rushed shot and save by the keeper.
Suddenly you have a whole different statistic. |  | | |
| Walsh v Nardi on 09:15 - Aug 10 with 2520 views | nix |
| Walsh v Nardi on 08:23 - Aug 10 by stevec |
Never too convinced by those kind of goalkeeping statistics.
For a start, you’re only as good at shot stopping as your defence allows in many instances. Take yesterday, the fella was allowed clean through the middle with a bouncing ball in front of him. Keeper pretty much has to come out (thought once he came he should have just gambled and ran at him even though he had little chance of stopping the goal, but that’s by the by). Anyway, the forward had one glaring choice, time to do it, and promptly lobbed him.
Had we had an actual defender there, they’d have made a much more concerted effort to stop the fella and that would more likely have resulted in a rushed shot and save by the keeper.
Suddenly you have a whole different statistic. |
I disagree in Nardi's case. He seemed so much better than Begovic but that's a very low bar.
I can't remember him saving any shots you wouldn't expect him to save unlike other teams' goalies who seemed to keep them in the match sometimes making ridiculous saves agaiinst us. And the not coming off his line/not claiming high balls is a real problem at times.
He's good with his feet and okay elsewhere but has flaws and I can see why we might try Walsh at least. |  | | |
| Walsh v Nardi on 11:45 - Aug 10 with 2348 views | NW5Hoop |
| Walsh v Nardi on 07:13 - Aug 10 by Esox_Lucius |
What if yesterday's kicking was an aberration? A definite upgrade to Nardi when commanding his area and much better in the defensive triangles when looking to draw the press. |
Well, let's hope so, because he barely got a kick right yesterday. | | | |
| Walsh v Nardi on 12:26 - Aug 10 with 2263 views | derbyhoop |
| Walsh v Nardi on 18:48 - Aug 9 by Sonic_Hoop |
If someone can explain why Walsh is getting picked ahead of Nardi for me, that'd be lovely. |
Walsh is 23, Nardi 31
Walsh 6'4", Nardi 6'1"
Walsh has sell on value, Nardi doesn't. Or if he does it's a small fee.
Walsh will come for crosses, Nardi is very reluctant to do so
Nardi's distribution is better, but not by much. 1 FK excepted. |  |
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| Walsh v Nardi on 12:49 - Aug 10 with 2233 views | Esox_Lucius |
| Walsh v Nardi on 11:45 - Aug 10 by NW5Hoop |
Well, let's hope so, because he barely got a kick right yesterday. |
That's arrant nonsense! He made a complete horlicks of the off side kick and in the second half there were two poorly directed long balls which went nowhere near a QPR player. The rest were adequate without being spectacular and he twice got things gs going quickly with throw outs to Morgan. Watch the 90 mins back when it is posted on the offy and you'll see a decent 7/10 display. Of the two, Joe is a good head in front of Nardi and far better at controlling his area. | |
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| Walsh v Nardi on 13:12 - Aug 10 with 2187 views | NorthantsHoop |
| Walsh v Nardi on 18:55 - Aug 9 by BrianMcCarthy |
I don't particularly rate Nardi for the Championship. He's very poor in the air and his shot-stopping and positioning declined as last season went on.
I'm hoping that Walsh is an improvement, but he needs a decent run of games before we can judge whether he will be an improvement or if we need to go shopping. |
Exactly see how he goes in a run of games, definitely needs to work on his kicking distribution and quickly. |  | | |
| Walsh v Nardi on 13:19 - Aug 10 with 2155 views | EuroRanger |
I liked Nardi last season and feels a bit rough to drop him like this, but I assume it's for financial reasons like people here have said. We need big sales and Walsh might end up being one.
I wouldn't be surprised if Nardi starts on Tuesday to get some minutes in order to sell him before the end of the window. I imagine Salamon would become the number 2 in that instance. | | | |
| Walsh v Nardi on 13:38 - Aug 10 with 2115 views | simmo |
Julien Stephan is the Phillip Seymour Hoffman in this Moneyball, and Nardi is Peña |  |
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| Walsh v Nardi on 14:33 - Aug 10 with 2001 views | priceyparkrangers |
On ability Nardi should start, but I understand the clubs thought process on giving a young keeper plenty of game time. I’d have been happier with Walsh going on loan and Solomon as sub keeper this season though. | | | |
| Walsh v Nardi on 14:45 - Aug 10 with 1958 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Walsh v Nardi on 13:38 - Aug 10 by simmo |
Julien Stephan is the Phillip Seymour Hoffman in this Moneyball, and Nardi is Peña |
Not sure I agree (I await your phonecall) but made me laugh. |  |
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| Walsh v Nardi on 14:53 - Aug 10 with 1925 views | Rsole |
| Walsh v Nardi on 13:38 - Aug 10 by simmo |
Julien Stephan is the Phillip Seymour Hoffman in this Moneyball, and Nardi is Peña |
Who’s the picking machine ? |  |
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| Walsh v Nardi on 14:58 - Aug 10 with 1894 views | Benny_the_Ball |
This thread is an example of how "undisclosed" contracts cause unnecessary speculation. If Nardi does only have 1 year remaining on his contract and he's reticent to sign an extension then it's only right that the club use the current transfer window to explore options to sell whilst playing the keeper who recently committed his future to he club (albeit for an undisclosed duration!). In the past we've been critical of the club for allowing assets to leave on a free (e.g. BOS, Manning, WIllock) so I'm willing to cut the powers that be some slack in this instance. |  | | |
| Walsh v Nardi on 15:03 - Aug 10 with 1886 views | danehoop |
I wonder this is in part contractual?
We have seen quite a few contracts have escalating payment structures as a player progresses through a contract, structured to help manage FFP demands on wage costs through the longer term. This also enables clubs to offer a more attractive salary package to entice what might otherwise be unobtainable signings within the available financial envelope.
It maybe that Nardi's contract this year has a significant uplift to his wage if he is selected to start. If that is the case then there may have been a conversation with the manager to see if he feels Nardi over say another signing is preferred or instead is there a material difference between either Walsh or Nardi as Keeper for what is being planned for the season.
At this point I think that Nardi is probably the better all round keeper, but given age difference and expected continued development of Walsh that might have been sufficient for the choice to have been made. For all of the complaints Walsh is certainly a decent keeper at this level, although I think Murphy Cooper is probably the better prospect. |  |
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| Walsh v Nardi on 15:09 - Aug 10 with 1853 views | Sonic_Hoop |
| Walsh v Nardi on 23:28 - Aug 9 by Myke |
This I feel is the most accurate response yet, from someone who knows. I am pleased Walsh is No1, but he will need some time to get used to playing week in week out. I hope he gets that time. |
i get that Walsh may end up the better keeper , that Nardi could be off in a year or less, but that time for Walsh should have been at the back end of last season in League one, not thrown into an already makeshift team who haven't played with each other. I can't see it doing his nerves or confidence much good. |  | | |
| Walsh v Nardi on 15:42 - Aug 10 with 1794 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Walsh v Nardi on 14:58 - Aug 10 by Benny_the_Ball |
This thread is an example of how "undisclosed" contracts cause unnecessary speculation. If Nardi does only have 1 year remaining on his contract and he's reticent to sign an extension then it's only right that the club use the current transfer window to explore options to sell whilst playing the keeper who recently committed his future to he club (albeit for an undisclosed duration!). In the past we've been critical of the club for allowing assets to leave on a free (e.g. BOS, Manning, WIllock) so I'm willing to cut the powers that be some slack in this instance. |
Agree, Benny. | |
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| Walsh v Nardi on 18:45 - Aug 10 with 1647 views | gazza1 |
I am not sure if anyone knows the right answer here......we will know in a few matches time though.
However, I am shocked that Walsh has been given the No1 spot. I thought Nardi did an OK job last season and wonder how the change came about. Personally, I would of selected Nardi but I also thought Walsh done OK yesterday, not sure if he should have been better positioned or not for the PNE goal, it is debatable.
I'm on the fence which I am normally not that way. | | | |
| Walsh v Nardi on 16:56 - Aug 11 with 1243 views | stainrods_elbow |
Walsh has certainly done little or nothing to earn his unexpected promotion on the face of it, so I hope Monsieur Julian/the club know what they're doing. Like one or two others, I believe Nardi (while not necessarily the complete keeper - if he was, he probably wouldn't be here) is the better player. Clearly, however, that doesn't mean the club feels he's a keeper (see what I did there?) [Post edited 11 Aug 17:14]
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| Walsh v Nardi on 16:58 - Aug 11 with 1247 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Walsh v Nardi on 16:56 - Aug 11 by stainrods_elbow |
Walsh has certainly done little or nothing to earn his unexpected promotion on the face of it, so I hope Monsieur Julian/the club know what they're doing. Like one or two others, I believe Nardi (while not necessarily the complete keeper - if he was, he probably wouldn't be here) is the better player. Clearly, however, that doesn't mean the club feels he's a keeper (see what I did there?) [Post edited 11 Aug 17:14]
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| Walsh v Nardi on 18:31 - Aug 11 with 1120 views | qpr1976 |
| Walsh v Nardi on 12:26 - Aug 10 by derbyhoop |
Walsh is 23, Nardi 31
Walsh 6'4", Nardi 6'1"
Walsh has sell on value, Nardi doesn't. Or if he does it's a small fee.
Walsh will come for crosses, Nardi is very reluctant to do so
Nardi's distribution is better, but not by much. 1 FK excepted. |
Agreed, all good points.
Let’s face it, Both are average Championship GK’s, possibly Good at times, but not consistently, otherwise they’d be elsewhere or we’d have clubs offering worthwhile money for them. Tomorrow at Plymouth will be interesting, it always is with early round cup games AND a new manager.
Don’t agree Walsh should have been onloan last season, he deserved to be #2.
What if Nardi had picked up an injury and Walsh was tied to a season long loan ?
Salomon/Cooper (Not ready) or bring in another loan (can’t afford one !).
So let’s trust in those who see them train each day and support whoever gets picked. | | | |
| Walsh v Nardi on 00:15 - Aug 12 with 941 views | YBlockW12 |
Also pleased Walsh is getting a chance.
Nardi does not command his six yard box let alone the area, stays on his line, he cannot kick properly, he would not give me any confidence if I was playing in front of him.
All pro goalkeepers are good shot stoppers, it is the other parts that make a top keeper. | | | |
| Walsh v Nardi on 00:53 - Aug 12 with 870 views | strikerace |
| Walsh v Nardi on 13:38 - Aug 10 by simmo |
Julien Stephan is the Phillip Seymour Hoffman in this Moneyball, and Nardi is Peña |
Who is Scott Hatteburg? | | | |
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