| Charlie Kirk shot. on 14:31 - Sep 11 with 4545 views | Dr_Winston |
By no means knowledgeable about stuff like this, but 200 yards really doesn't seem all that far for a rifle shot, especially when the target is sitting down and immobile.
I'd imagine that there are hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of Americans, even some who are just active hunters rather than militarily trained, who could have made that shot with ease.
As for getting away with it, it was a student event at a university as opposed to a Presidential speech. There would have been some security for sure, but I'd imagine that it was probably more close protection to prevent assaults rather than perimiter security guarding against a rifle assassination.
If the shooter had done this to someone like Trump and got away clean then I'd have far more questions. |  |
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| Charlie Kirk shot. on 14:51 - Sep 11 with 4477 views | onehunglow |
The death sentence still apies in Utah
If caught and convicted , can’t see Don commuting the sentence at all
Even though it’s a Mormon state , the church is officially neutral on this although previously they backed blood atonement
Not a place I’d want to live in |  |
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| Charlie Kirk shot. on 15:07 - Sep 11 with 4451 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
FBI have found the weapon in a nearby wooded area said he jumped off the roof and ran into a nearby neighbourhood. Appears to be of college age. |  |
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| Charlie Kirk shot. on 16:15 - Sep 11 with 4387 views | Gwyn737 |
| Charlie Kirk shot. on 13:56 - Sep 11 by Demitrius |
I don't know if any of you follow a young lad on X/Twitter called Charlie Simpson an aspiring political journo, but he's said on there today that his schoolteacher on the Kirk shooting said to the class:
"He wasn't a tolerant individual. At the end of the day, if you live by the sword, you might as well be killed by the sword."
I find that reprehensible on many levels and yet again I stand by my comments of a few weeks back about teachers.
There's a Guardian editorial with similar sentiments and very little in the way of outrage, but then you expect it from that one-eyed rag. |
He came to my attention after tweeting and broadcasting that this that a parent asked me about:
Complete and utter lie of course, designed to generate clicks and profit from hate. | | | |
| Charlie Kirk shot. on 16:43 - Sep 11 with 4352 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Charlie Kirk shot. on 16:15 - Sep 11 by Gwyn737 |
He came to my attention after tweeting and broadcasting that this that a parent asked me about:
Complete and utter lie of course, designed to generate clicks and profit from hate. |
If they did ban it then all the kids would start doing it 😂 | |
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| Charlie Kirk shot. on 16:46 - Sep 11 with 4347 views | Boundy |
| Charlie Kirk shot. on 16:15 - Sep 11 by Gwyn737 |
He came to my attention after tweeting and broadcasting that this that a parent asked me about:
Complete and utter lie of course, designed to generate clicks and profit from hate. |
Then we have Fiona Wilde , just what goes on in peoples head that they think that's acceptable at any level.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/councillor-told-to-resign-over-vile-charli | |
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| Charlie Kirk shot. on 17:23 - Sep 11 with 4279 views | Gwyn737 |
Awful.
Thankful it seems correctly reported and not made up to make people cross. | | | |
| Charlie Kirk shot. on 17:24 - Sep 11 with 4276 views | Gwyn737 |
| Charlie Kirk shot. on 16:43 - Sep 11 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
If they did ban it then all the kids would start doing it 😂 |
That is so true!!!! 🤣 | | | |
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| Charlie Kirk shot. on 18:13 - Sep 11 with 4232 views | controversial_jack |
Just another killing in the land of the free | | | |
| Charlie Kirk shot. on 20:35 - Sep 11 with 4131 views | Boundy |
The whole social network is sadly full of people who revel in this sort of news, Criticising his views is one thing but to celebrate his death is beyond words. | |
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| Charlie Kirk shot. on 08:32 - Sep 12 with 3864 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Charlie Kirk shot. on 20:35 - Sep 11 by Boundy |
The whole social network is sadly full of people who revel in this sort of news, Criticising his views is one thing but to celebrate his death is beyond words. |
It's a sad world when people celebrate the death of another based on what their views were. |  |
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| Charlie Kirk shot. on 09:36 - Sep 12 with 3795 views | onehunglow |
| Charlie Kirk shot. on 08:32 - Sep 12 by JACKMANANDBOY |
It's a sad world when people celebrate the death of another based on what their views were. |
And plenty rejoicing over the death of Margaret Thatcher and indeed the Queen by the Glasgow buoys
The left are just as feral | |
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| Charlie Kirk shot. on 09:41 - Sep 12 with 3790 views | johnlangy |
| Charlie Kirk shot. on 08:32 - Sep 12 by JACKMANANDBOY |
It's a sad world when people celebrate the death of another based on what their views were. |
In comparison, we can only be thankful that the whole of the UK were appalled when Jo Cox and David Amess were murdered. The correct response.
No one blamed right wingers when Jo was killed and no one blamed left wingers when David was killed. They blamed the deranged individuals that killed them. | | | |
| Charlie Kirk shot. on 09:48 - Sep 12 with 3772 views | mangohilljack |
Will she go to jail like Lucy Connolly now? She's calling for someone else to be assassinated | | | |
| Charlie Kirk shot. on 09:49 - Sep 12 with 3768 views | AnotherJohn |
There are disturbing reports allegedly from an anonymous police source, that the ammunition cases found with the rifle were engraved with anti-fascist, pro transgender ideology slogans. Hard to know if this is true, but if so that suggests a lot of planning and probably an activist rather than a professional hit. I imagine the trans angle will be picked up by Fox news, which recently claimed that 7 recent shooting events involved trans or "non-binary" shooters (including the Robin Westman case).
Kirk had just answered a question about the claimed involvement of trans individuals in recent mass shooting events when the fatal shot was fired.
Incidentally. it seems to me harder to link this killing to the general issue of gun control in the US than in many of the school shooting cases, even though I share the concern about lax US gun laws This is because the weapon involved was a bolt-action sporting rifle rather than the "black rifle", semi-automatic AR15-type weapons with large magazines favoured by many mass shooters. Anonymous sources say that this was an older Mauser 30-16 rifle, which most commonly has a 5 round magazine (4 rounds were found with the rifle). This gun can be legally owned in the UK by persons with a firearms certificate, and indeed if you Google you will see several currently advertised for sale by UK dealers from about £500 up. | | | |
| Charlie Kirk shot. on 10:25 - Sep 12 with 3722 views | Demitrius |
A strong suspect is emerging with a lot of incriminating details...
If true yes, a Trans activist who acted unhinged in a debate with CK months ago.
I would imagine the FBI AI scanners have been going into overdrive once they ID'd the shooter on the roof. |  |
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| Charlie Kirk shot. on 11:15 - Sep 12 with 3680 views | pete |
| Charlie Kirk shot. on 09:41 - Sep 12 by johnlangy |
In comparison, we can only be thankful that the whole of the UK were appalled when Jo Cox and David Amess were murdered. The correct response.
No one blamed right wingers when Jo was killed and no one blamed left wingers when David was killed. They blamed the deranged individuals that killed them. |
when the so called leaders in the usa start blaming the oposition party says a lot about usa mentality, whilst not a fan of the gentleman what happened is utterly deplorable, and to me when trump goes on tv and says about political violance should not happen ( which i agree with)when HE is going after anyone who spoke, against him just shows to me how democracy in usa has dropped to the gutter
My prayers and thoughts go to Mr Kirks family at this tragic time | | | |
| Charlie Kirk shot. on 12:24 - Sep 12 with 3573 views | Boundy |
| Charlie Kirk shot. on 09:36 - Sep 12 by onehunglow |
And plenty rejoicing over the death of Margaret Thatcher and indeed the Queen by the Glasgow buoys
The left are just as feral |
It's us as well ,well some of us who respond to GSTK sung by opposition fans when visiting the Stadium, enough to heard I'm sorry to say. | |
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| Charlie Kirk shot. on 12:27 - Sep 12 with 3559 views | Boundy |
| Charlie Kirk shot. on 09:48 - Sep 12 by mangohilljack |
Will she go to jail like Lucy Connolly now? She's calling for someone else to be assassinated |
What do you think, myself if like to think so ,if not then we really do have a problem with the legal system in this country, despite what some deny. | |
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| Charlie Kirk shot. on 13:36 - Sep 12 with 3471 views | theloneranger |
It looks like the suspect's father turned him in to the police - and talked him into giving himself up. |  |
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| Charlie Kirk shot. on 14:12 - Sep 12 with 3424 views | Whiterockin |
| Charlie Kirk shot. on 13:36 - Sep 12 by theloneranger |
It looks like the suspect's father turned him in to the police - and talked him into giving himself up. |
Did he get the $100,000 reward. |  | | |
| Charlie Kirk shot. on 15:38 - Sep 12 with 3316 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Charlie Kirk shot. on 08:17 - Sep 11 by Dr_Winston |
A shocking act. To do it in front of his wife and kids too. Hopefully the perpetrator/s will be swiftly caught and dealt with to the fullest extent of the law.
Political violence is rarely justified, but it has to be said that there is also a certain amount of hypocrisy coming from the right on the subject. Ask the families of Melissa Hortman or Gabrielle Giffords if this marks a departure from the usual political discourse.
Unfortunately America is a country with limitless supplies of both lunatics and firearms and events like this are unlikely to become rarer. [Post edited 11 Sep 8:30]
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I completely agree. All I know of the man is he was a conservative and Trump supporter so I'd probably largely disagree with him but I can't be sure.
How Americans can still support the second amendment when things like this are literally everyday iccurrences is beyond me. When it was put into law there was a need for civilian militia and that was 1791, they don't need the militia now because they have a masive armed forces and local, state and federal police.
The place is bonkers.
Charlie Kirk, I know very little about him but kids lost a father, a wife lost her husband. My fear here is that ther will be reprisals, People who are against Trump may be in for a rough ride. | | | |
| Charlie Kirk shot. on 15:43 - Sep 12 with 3302 views | Whiterockin |
| Charlie Kirk shot. on 15:38 - Sep 12 by SullutaCreturned |
I completely agree. All I know of the man is he was a conservative and Trump supporter so I'd probably largely disagree with him but I can't be sure.
How Americans can still support the second amendment when things like this are literally everyday iccurrences is beyond me. When it was put into law there was a need for civilian militia and that was 1791, they don't need the militia now because they have a masive armed forces and local, state and federal police.
The place is bonkers.
Charlie Kirk, I know very little about him but kids lost a father, a wife lost her husband. My fear here is that ther will be reprisals, People who are against Trump may be in for a rough ride. |
They support the 2nd ammendment when children are killed, so I have no problem understanding when a politician is killed. It's just a crazy situation that defies logic. | | | |
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