| Disrespectful I know... 07:25 - Sep 22 with 3160 views | dixiefrog |
To talk about another Manager whilst we still have WS in place, but if Graham Potter was to become available would he be worth a punt? |  |
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| Disrespectful I know... on 07:29 - Sep 22 with 2181 views | saintwizzler |
He’d think that Southampton weren’t big enough for him.
He’d be doing a Hasenhuttl and living off his contract whilst sat at home. |  |
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| Disrespectful I know... on 07:50 - Sep 22 with 2132 views | kingslandstand1 |
| Disrespectful I know... on 07:29 - Sep 22 by saintwizzler |
He’d think that Southampton weren’t big enough for him.
He’d be doing a Hasenhuttl and living off his contract whilst sat at home. |
I think that's the case despite his failures at both Chelsea and Hammers. Did well at Brighton but that's about it.
Another one that doesn't inspire by the way he talks |  |
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| Disrespectful I know... on 08:06 - Sep 22 with 2120 views | saint22 |
| Disrespectful I know... on 07:50 - Sep 22 by kingslandstand1 |
I think that's the case despite his failures at both Chelsea and Hammers. Did well at Brighton but that's about it.
Another one that doesn't inspire by the way he talks |
I am not sure
If he gets the boot from Wham then I cant see him getting anther PL job soon
He did well at Brighton so I think he must have something about him, taking on us and rebuilding might be what he needs | | | |
| Disrespectful I know... on 08:24 - Sep 22 with 2071 views | TripleNiemi |
Not having a pop at anyone questioning Will’s credentials, but when will this stop? We cannot keep rinsing managers as this is part of the reason we are in this mess. Every time the owners pull the trigger it’s another round of dilution to the playing staff.
I cannot see the current owners moving on and if I thought they would, would take a stint down in League One (which may well happen naturally).
The problem goes far deeper than just the current coach. Whilst he is the man responsible, he didn’t gift Hull the goals on Saturday.
#ApatheticPoorPlayers [Post edited 22 Sep 8:25]
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| Disrespectful I know... on 08:40 - Sep 22 with 2021 views | jopreston |
I have a good friend who supports West Ham and I have watched them this season with him on TV. They are crap. The tactics are a mess, a bit like Still. Shame we did not keep NJ huh, he is doing well with Charlton compared to us.
All joking aside, we need a manager who knows the English game and even better if he knows this league. But nothing will change in that regard until SR sell up, which I hope this season they do. It is rumoured that the club is still up for sale, so we can live in hope. |  | | |
| Disrespectful I know... on 08:45 - Sep 22 with 1995 views | TripleNiemi |
| Disrespectful I know... on 08:40 - Sep 22 by jopreston |
I have a good friend who supports West Ham and I have watched them this season with him on TV. They are crap. The tactics are a mess, a bit like Still. Shame we did not keep NJ huh, he is doing well with Charlton compared to us.
All joking aside, we need a manager who knows the English game and even better if he knows this league. But nothing will change in that regard until SR sell up, which I hope this season they do. It is rumoured that the club is still up for sale, so we can live in hope. |
Sport Republic seem hellbent on never recruiting a ‘proven’ unfashionable manage as they prefer some wacky out of this world type. Perhaps it’s deliberate.
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| Disrespectful I know... on 08:46 - Sep 22 with 2002 views | saintwizzler |
| Disrespectful I know... on 08:24 - Sep 22 by TripleNiemi |
Not having a pop at anyone questioning Will’s credentials, but when will this stop? We cannot keep rinsing managers as this is part of the reason we are in this mess. Every time the owners pull the trigger it’s another round of dilution to the playing staff.
I cannot see the current owners moving on and if I thought they would, would take a stint down in League One (which may well happen naturally).
The problem goes far deeper than just the current coach. Whilst he is the man responsible, he didn’t gift Hull the goals on Saturday.
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All well and good sacking the manager if he’s replaced by someone better.
With Sport Republic’s track record this is doubtful.
In which case leave Still in charge and hope for the best. | |
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| Disrespectful I know... on 09:17 - Sep 22 with 1924 views | saint901 |
| Disrespectful I know... on 07:50 - Sep 22 by kingslandstand1 |
I think that's the case despite his failures at both Chelsea and Hammers. Did well at Brighton but that's about it.
Another one that doesn't inspire by the way he talks |
I'd settle for "competent" over "inspiring". | | | |
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| Disrespectful I know... on 10:00 - Sep 22 with 1851 views | saint22 |
| Disrespectful I know... on 09:17 - Sep 22 by saint901 |
I'd settle for "competent" over "inspiring". |
getting the basics right would help
pick your best 11
play 442
defend corners, no free headers
tell your keeper to catch the ball or palm it to the side not straight back out
break quickly and incisively
play a forward who knows where the goal is, as a striker not a winger | | | |
| Disrespectful I know... on 10:01 - Sep 22 with 1849 views | DorsetIan |
| Disrespectful I know... on 08:45 - Sep 22 by TripleNiemi |
Sport Republic seem hellbent on never recruiting a ‘proven’ unfashionable manage as they prefer some wacky out of this world type. Perhaps it’s deliberate.
We March On |
I think it is deliberate. They don't want someone who actually understands football and how to manage a club coming in and telling them home truths about their 'model'.
So they've appointed a series of people who aren't going to challenge them.
And we are where we are. | |
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| Disrespectful I know... on 10:22 - Sep 22 with 1775 views | TripleNiemi |
| Disrespectful I know... on 10:01 - Sep 22 by DorsetIan |
I think it is deliberate. They don't want someone who actually understands football and how to manage a club coming in and telling them home truths about their 'model'.
So they've appointed a series of people who aren't going to challenge them.
And we are where we are. |
Not sure I agree to be honest. Surely any owner would ‘hope’ they could get someone in to somehow, even by fluke, get us back to the promised land. The money / gravy train will stop as they are purely reliant on unearthing gems for a sell on profit. That ain’t gonna last, trust me. | |
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| Disrespectful I know... on 10:24 - Sep 22 with 1766 views | felly1 |
It's more about Players and player recruitment than the manager imo.
Look at Jones at Charlton.
Juric now at Atalanta
People saying Potter....he's inherited a poor West Ham side that firstly Moyes stopped getting a tune out of and then Lopetegui failed . They simply have a crap team like us.
Same at Utd ..how many managers have they tried and failed...its crap players.
Potter worked at Brighton because he came to them at the right time , just as they got their recruitment right.
Still deserves to be criticised no doubt but for me its mainly down to player recruitment. , and thats down to the clowns running our club. | | | |
| Disrespectful I know... on 10:25 - Sep 22 with 1771 views | saintwizzler |
| Disrespectful I know... on 10:22 - Sep 22 by TripleNiemi |
Not sure I agree to be honest. Surely any owner would ‘hope’ they could get someone in to somehow, even by fluke, get us back to the promised land. The money / gravy train will stop as they are purely reliant on unearthing gems for a sell on profit. That ain’t gonna last, trust me. |
They’ve got 2 years of parachute payments to fall back on then the shit will hit the financial fan if Southampton FC are not in The PL.
WE MARCH ON | |
| We thought that we had the answers,
It was the questions we had wrong. |
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| Disrespectful I know... on 10:56 - Sep 22 with 1716 views | saintmark1976 |
| Disrespectful I know... on 10:01 - Sep 22 by DorsetIan |
I think it is deliberate. They don't want someone who actually understands football and how to manage a club coming in and telling them home truths about their 'model'.
So they've appointed a series of people who aren't going to challenge them.
And we are where we are. |
Nail on head Dorset.
In addition, I’m fast coming to the opinion that they really aren’t even bothered as to which of the two top English Leagues they compete in.
They have proven twice in three years that they simply don’t have the management ability to stay in The Premier League and their business model ( buy young and cheap to sell at a profit) simply wouldn’t survive another attempt.
If they remain in ownership our future is to be the South’s Preston North End. A nondescript club that never achieves success and nobody really bothers about. Other options are available, Huddersfield immediately comes to mind.
The only threat for them is doing a Luton which on the basis of recent results is far from impossible. | |
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| Disrespectful I know... on 10:58 - Sep 22 with 1696 views | Butty101 |
| Disrespectful I know... on 10:24 - Sep 22 by felly1 |
It's more about Players and player recruitment than the manager imo.
Look at Jones at Charlton.
Juric now at Atalanta
People saying Potter....he's inherited a poor West Ham side that firstly Moyes stopped getting a tune out of and then Lopetegui failed . They simply have a crap team like us.
Same at Utd ..how many managers have they tried and failed...its crap players.
Potter worked at Brighton because he came to them at the right time , just as they got their recruitment right.
Still deserves to be criticised no doubt but for me its mainly down to player recruitment. , and thats down to the clowns running our club. |
Sulemana of course scored on his full debut at the weekend for Atalanta..... |  |
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| Disrespectful I know... on 11:52 - Sep 22 with 1608 views | kingslandstand1 |
| Disrespectful I know... on 10:25 - Sep 22 by saintwizzler |
They’ve got 2 years of parachute payments to fall back on then the shit will hit the financial fan if Southampton FC are not in The PL.
WE MARCH ON |
And what happens then? Total oblivion | |
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| Disrespectful I know... on 11:54 - Sep 22 with 1609 views | Southamptonfan |
| Disrespectful I know... on 10:24 - Sep 22 by felly1 |
It's more about Players and player recruitment than the manager imo.
Look at Jones at Charlton.
Juric now at Atalanta
People saying Potter....he's inherited a poor West Ham side that firstly Moyes stopped getting a tune out of and then Lopetegui failed . They simply have a crap team like us.
Same at Utd ..how many managers have they tried and failed...its crap players.
Potter worked at Brighton because he came to them at the right time , just as they got their recruitment right.
Still deserves to be criticised no doubt but for me its mainly down to player recruitment. , and thats down to the clowns running our club. |
I understand what you are saying, that every manager fails here and therefore he must have terrible players. Definitely in the Premier League im with you 100 per cent. This year in the championship, we have more than enough quality for this level. To have such quality (for this level) and be so disorganised and look so terrible, I have cinema to the conclusion that Will Still isn't very good, although as I said, I pretty much knew before he was appointed. But ultimately it's the owners who appointed him, or it's the owners who appointed the people who appointed WS, so they are to ultimately to blame. But to be getting outplayed by Hull, with players looking completely lost, this is after many very poor games, WS is very poor. | |
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| Disrespectful I know... on 11:56 - Sep 22 with 1597 views | kingslandstand1 |
| Disrespectful I know... on 10:58 - Sep 22 by Butty101 |
Sulemana of course scored on his full debut at the weekend for Atalanta..... |
With Juric unbeaten in the league tho stuffed in the Champions League | |
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| Disrespectful I know... on 12:05 - Sep 22 with 1578 views | dirk_doone |
The mistakes started when SR appointed Nathan Jones instead of Rob Edwards, who was the one that got Luton promoted. |  |
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| Disrespectful I know... on 12:11 - Sep 22 with 1549 views | Centurion |
Will thinks he is a pilot, but he cannot fly a plane. | | | |
| Disrespectful I know... on 12:13 - Sep 22 with 1543 views | saintwizzler |
| Disrespectful I know... on 11:52 - Sep 22 by kingslandstand1 |
And what happens then? Total oblivion |
They sell up. | |
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It was the questions we had wrong. |
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| Disrespectful I know... on 12:31 - Sep 22 with 1509 views | saint901 |
It comes down to "what is SR's plan"?
If it's to survive in the Champ for a couple of seasons, milk the parachute payments and then sell up and disappear, a "just about good enough" manager will do.
If it's to invest and strive to be a PL team, then a manager who is good enough now but could be better in a couple of seasons, will do.
In either of the above scenarios, WS is probably well suited.
if the pan is to use the club as a platform or shop window for acquiring and selling players on, it doesn't matter who the manager is because he'll never be given the tools to do the job.
In which case, WS should have a long hard think about why he's doing the job now. | | | |
| Disrespectful I know... on 12:53 - Sep 22 with 1446 views | kingslandstand1 |
| Disrespectful I know... on 12:31 - Sep 22 by saint901 |
It comes down to "what is SR's plan"?
If it's to survive in the Champ for a couple of seasons, milk the parachute payments and then sell up and disappear, a "just about good enough" manager will do.
If it's to invest and strive to be a PL team, then a manager who is good enough now but could be better in a couple of seasons, will do.
In either of the above scenarios, WS is probably well suited.
if the pan is to use the club as a platform or shop window for acquiring and selling players on, it doesn't matter who the manager is because he'll never be given the tools to do the job.
In which case, WS should have a long hard think about why he's doing the job now. |
Or are SR just looking for yes men who will put a budding youngster in the team for the shop window?
An earlier thread was reference Potter who may soon become available as he did well at Brighton. But Brighton have decent owners and clearly a decent recruitment pattern which helped Potter get "top jobs and a decent reputation". Unfortunately for him Chelsea's expectation was too high and West Ham have indifferent owners who the fans, like us, want the owners out
I can't see them sacking WS unless it all goes absolutely t1ts up and unfortunately it may not do his reputation much good | |
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| Disrespectful I know... on 12:54 - Sep 22 with 1439 views | kingslandstand1 |
| Disrespectful I know... on 12:13 - Sep 22 by saintwizzler |
They sell up. |
Sounds like a plan! | |
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| Disrespectful I know... on 14:17 - Sep 22 with 1253 views | dixiefrog |
The current boss is still in place, however here’s a few stats (*) to consider when comparing Graham Potter and Will Still…
Professional games played - GP 320
Professional games played - WS 0
Total games managed - GP 490
Total games managed- WS 135
Win % of games managed - GP 42%
Win % of games managed - WD 42%
I think the most telling number here is the games played. It would be interesting to know the thoughts of the current first team and how they view a boss who has never played the game (professionally). It’s early days but are we already seeing a reaction from the senior players who simply have no respect and are not playing for the boss?
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