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Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 21:39 - Oct 5 with 698 views
Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 21:30 - Oct 5 by RichardO
We won the penalty because of the pressure we put on them, we thought we would go on to win after but we lbecame careless and got punished as we did for the first. Yes they worked us and got us out of shape but so have other teams, they just did it better. We have to make sure we don't get pulled out of shape by having teams playing through us because of our poor defensive play.
I was quite surprised, knowing our luck that he actually gave us the decision. We got back on terms but poor ball retention and some poor concentration cost is. You can’t tell me that Vipotnik going off and Idah coming on didn't ease the pressure on their defence surely? We struggled to get anything meaningful going after the equalizer.
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Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 22:04 - Oct 5 with 626 views
Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 21:39 - Oct 5 by sons_of_omri
I was quite surprised, knowing our luck that he actually gave us the decision. We got back on terms but poor ball retention and some poor concentration cost is. You can’t tell me that Vipotnik going off and Idah coming on didn't ease the pressure on their defence surely? We struggled to get anything meaningful going after the equalizer.
Vipotnik and Cullen were taking turns to press/drop back slightly deeper and sometimes pressed together.
While Galbraith is clearly a better midfielder than Cullen and gave us more in the middle, our pressing game suffered when both went off with only one striker coming on.
Vipotnik presses harder than Idah anyway, but having Idah do it on his own made him much easier to pass around.
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Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 00:25 - Oct 6 with 534 views
Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 19:09 - Oct 4 by Dr_Winston
That's the question.
I was pleased that he was prepared to change his usual shape today, just disappointed in who he trusted to play in the new AM role. Hopefully he won't allow himself to be swayed by defeat and stick with it, just with more suitable personnel.
After the disappointment of the loss I've only jumped in VERY late in this thread so I've probably missed loads... But , yeah, being prepared to change his shape is a plus for me. Our oponents were technically better than us and it showed - that said I think three goals almost flattered them and with the ref being happy with their physical side they had an extra advantage. Today his plan B failed, but at leat he had a pkan B.
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
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Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 00:28 - Oct 6 with 519 views
Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 19:54 - Oct 4 by ncswan
I agree. It appeared we were wanting to take a step backwards while Leicester was willing to take the step forwards, especially on 50-50 balls.
They showed determination and energy to win the loose or 50/50 balls... was that Sheehans failing or the players. If it was the players fault what did Sheehan try to do?
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
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Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 00:50 - Oct 6 with 503 views
Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 09:48 - Oct 5 by RichardO
The game is about having a control of the impetus of the play, in the first twenty they fought to comtrol the game, getting control of the ball by being solid in their defence keeping things tight as we pressed they committed players into the gaps we left over committing down the flanks leaving the middle uncontested, disjointed and disfunctional, while they changed their points of attack quickly we were left floundering in a quandary do we press or not?
We in contrasted did not get tight in our defensive preformance, Leicester when having pressure applied by us up top had outlets, players allow to turn or they were allowed to pass the ball forward unchallenged, they got runners and support players up the pitch into positions that gave the player on the ball options.yes we often slowed them down and yes they scored nice goals but better teams ensure those players who scored are crowded out and not allowed the room to shoot.Really at times our players and set up in games is too passive in defence and midfield, what a difference it made with the changes Leicester so called better players out fought in all areas of the pitch, they didn't have time to pick their passes to get themselves out of trouble but after we scored we thought we had won the game we allowed them to find players in space again remaining unchallenged why because we lost our defensive shape that had allowed us to attack with the right challenges of the player on the ball. We became that headless chicken again as we were at times in the first half.
Last year's home game against Cardiff, the two halves of play were indicative of what was wrong and what was right yesterday and a number of games this season and in the past seasons , what was right about how we setup and countered their play in the first half but in the second they changed things but we kept trying the same thing to counter their chamges. Leicester changed things as we pressed high they went long or found space in the middle moving us about until we lost our defensive shape exactly what we did to Leicester at times, one size does not fit all but get our defensive shape right and adapt it to different parts of the game, opposition teams stung by an equaliser are not going to do the same as they would being one nil up, they are going to change things.
It is experience on the pitch is lacking with us at the moment making teams look better and more threatening than they should be, different tactics and setups must be used during tight games but you cannot afford to give opposition players time on the ball unchallenged as we so often do being stuck in one of modes 1, 2 or 3.
So in essence they were quicker and better than us. YEP. That is a major part of our loss. An established squad versus a squad (in part) learning about each other. So I'm very surprised by your position, as we have always been a side that struggles under a focussed onslaught and they clearly demonstrated a superior technical ability and and a practised cohesive mode of play whilst executing their plan.
Usually in your breakdown of a game you apply the context of events/style of play as a modifier to keep away from a hyperbolic analysis. In my very flawed opinion, even though you've not strayed into hyperbole you've still did us a disfavour in your analysis as I've mentioned in my first paragraph. Sheehan is not the messiah, I know that, but he is relatively new in his craft and is doing it with a large chunk of the first 11 being new...cut him some slack.
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
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Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 00:52 - Oct 6 with 502 views
Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 12:58 - Oct 5 by RichardO
Very similar issues we had against Leicester the last game we had at home against. they exploited the channels between the full backs and centre halves creating space for both. The second half we didn't give them that but then did. Leon Britton didn't sit back that often except in exceptional circumstances he made himself available and got us going through the middle of the park, similar to O'Brien last season when the avenues of play on the flanks stalled as it did yesterday at times.
Excellent point... but Leon doesn't play for us anymore.
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
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Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 00:56 - Oct 6 with 502 views
Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 17:14 - Oct 5 by Dr_Winston
Plenty of people pointed out that Eom was one of our best players. You've decided that you hate him based on never having seen him play in the flesh so keep babbling about it like Dustin Hoffman in Rainman.
That's when you're pondering why people don't go to games from your position of never going to games.
It really is difficult at times to understand why you bother. You're clearly not much of a fan of the club, city or country. Why spend your twilight years posting nonsense on a forum of people who mostly think you're an idiot? Haven't you got better things to do on a Sunday afternoon?
As I've said in my first post in this thread...I've jumped in late into this thread and YES, Eom was one of the best players.
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
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Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 01:00 - Oct 6 with 496 views
Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 21:05 - Oct 5 by sons_of_omri
I couldn’t face coming in here last night so I prepped the Sunday dinner after 6 pints instead. I came away from the game feeling like we’d had a bit of a going over towards the end. They were definitely quaillity I think this though was the first time they’d clicked properly this season- just our luck.
They were bigger and more dynamic than us and that wins you a lot of marginal refereeing decisions. They broke superbly and their one touch passing was excellent on times. Obviously it helps when you have a good squad because of the money you’ve spent (illicitly) but I expected a lot more from us.
Sheehan’s weird obsession with hooking Vipotnik is really wearing on me now. He was excellent again yesterday and his hold up play was bringing others into the game and causing Leicester some problems. Idah came on, scored the penalty then nothing. That lack of ball retention enabled them to dominate us and they played a master game exposing Key time and again to their pacy 16 year old winger .
It’s been mentioned that Stamenic was negative and we have all seen what he can do but was he acting under strict orders? He must have because I know he is a much more effective and more importantly for yesterday aggresive player too. Him with Galbraith in front and Yalcouye as the midfield three would have fared better IMHO.
Fair play to Eom he had a good game but I think play your best winger and that’s Inoussa. Benson is not the player he was but in fairness he came on with Key struggling behind him.
Their first 2 goals were superb and I thought we had our good spells but the selection seemed a bit off and that’s down to the manager. He should have been drilling into the lads all week that this was a real opportunity to make their mark in the division but we crapped ourselves instead and in truth it could have been more. At least Sheehan wasnt stupid enough to play 2 up front - it’s ok if you start going long and win your second balls in a more industrial style of football (which is ok to mix it up at times) but with our midfield already overrun it could have been 5 or 6 goals against us. Let’s hope lessons are being learned - I’m not sure they are though unfortunately.
I agree with this but I would also say that Benson was poor... he couldn't keep hold of the ball. There again, by then we had lost the game.
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 00:25 - Oct 6 by DJack
After the disappointment of the loss I've only jumped in VERY late in this thread so I've probably missed loads... But , yeah, being prepared to change his shape is a plus for me. Our oponents were technically better than us and it showed - that said I think three goals almost flattered them and with the ref being happy with their physical side they had an extra advantage. Today his plan B failed, but at leat he had a pkan B.
Agree.
They were better in their movement and scored two goals that on another day might have ended up in the stands. I don't think we were "3-1" worse than them on the day and could have got something had we picked the right players.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
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Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 09:22 - Oct 6 with 376 views
Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 07:19 - Oct 6 by Dr_Winston
Agree.
They were better in their movement and scored two goals that on another day might have ended up in the stands. I don't think we were "3-1" worse than them on the day and could have got something had we picked the right players.
We got players back behind the ball but didn't get close enough to get the block in, for both chances the scorers moved the ball quickly to create the space to deliver the powerful shots, good skills but disappointed to concede them after getting players behind the ball, haven't rewatched the goals but if memory serves me right there was good movement off the balls to distract or occupy the players we got back.
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Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 11:38 - Oct 6 with 304 views
Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 07:19 - Oct 6 by Dr_Winston
Agree.
They were better in their movement and scored two goals that on another day might have ended up in the stands. I don't think we were "3-1" worse than them on the day and could have got something had we picked the right players.
I think 3-1 was a fair reflection. They hit the woodwork 3 times, as well as the 3 goals. I can barely remember their keeper making a decent save, other than the shots from Vipi and Tymon. Our long range shooting ended up in the stands when normally it's very good. We had a lot of possession but did very little with it. So 3-1 for me is fair.
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Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 12:21 - Oct 6 with 282 views
Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 00:50 - Oct 6 by DJack
So in essence they were quicker and better than us. YEP. That is a major part of our loss. An established squad versus a squad (in part) learning about each other. So I'm very surprised by your position, as we have always been a side that struggles under a focussed onslaught and they clearly demonstrated a superior technical ability and and a practised cohesive mode of play whilst executing their plan.
Usually in your breakdown of a game you apply the context of events/style of play as a modifier to keep away from a hyperbolic analysis. In my very flawed opinion, even though you've not strayed into hyperbole you've still did us a disfavour in your analysis as I've mentioned in my first paragraph. Sheehan is not the messiah, I know that, but he is relatively new in his craft and is doing it with a large chunk of the first 11 being new...cut him some slack.
More than happy to cut Sheehan some slack and if it seemed tobe a harsh criticism of him that was not my intention but I don't want to see things repeated, given his options in the midfield really don't want to try and rely solely on our ability to attack while neglecting the fundamental of our defensive game.
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Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 12:25 - Oct 6 with 281 views
Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 00:52 - Oct 6 by DJack
Excellent point... but Leon doesn't play for us anymore.
But we seem to want a Leon Britton type player in the team but we have seen managers trying to get players to emulate a version of him that wasn't the complete picture of his game.
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Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 15:12 - Oct 6 with 216 views
Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 22:04 - Oct 5 by jack247
Vipotnik and Cullen were taking turns to press/drop back slightly deeper and sometimes pressed together.
While Galbraith is clearly a better midfielder than Cullen and gave us more in the middle, our pressing game suffered when both went off with only one striker coming on.
Vipotnik presses harder than Idah anyway, but having Idah do it on his own made him much easier to pass around.
Is there an unwritten rule that says Vipotnik has to go off to accommodate Idah ? Vipotnik is a different player this season. His hold up play has improved, his positioning, his awareness, goals, you name it he’s better. He was causing Leicester all sorts of problems, and looked fit as a flea to me. To take him off when he did was in my humble opinion, the wrong call by Sheehan.
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Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 15:41 - Oct 6 with 201 views
Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 00:50 - Oct 6 by DJack
So in essence they were quicker and better than us. YEP. That is a major part of our loss. An established squad versus a squad (in part) learning about each other. So I'm very surprised by your position, as we have always been a side that struggles under a focussed onslaught and they clearly demonstrated a superior technical ability and and a practised cohesive mode of play whilst executing their plan.
Usually in your breakdown of a game you apply the context of events/style of play as a modifier to keep away from a hyperbolic analysis. In my very flawed opinion, even though you've not strayed into hyperbole you've still did us a disfavour in your analysis as I've mentioned in my first paragraph. Sheehan is not the messiah, I know that, but he is relatively new in his craft and is doing it with a large chunk of the first 11 being new...cut him some slack.
Im fairness Sheehan started on Saturday with 9 players who were here last season and 2 newbies onw being Burgess who is a more than decent Darling replacement and then Stamenic...who in my eyes is an upgrade on Grimes ...thougj he hasnt shined like he did in his debut v Watford ..but he is not an O Brien and that sort of player was needed Saturday....again we looked different when Galbraith came on
Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 21:01 - Oct 4 by vetchonian
this seems to be overlooked by many and the faxt many are always balmimg the officials for disaaliwed goals ( which should have stood) ,penealties not given for being where we are....we just beat Sheffield Utd at home who most teams have battered. Despite improving our squad massively from last season tonight we have the same number of points after 9 games with the same results 3 wins 3 draws and 3 losses.....
Well when officials get it wrong and it affects the game it needs to be said. The goal at Birmingham was NOT offside.
Then there's the corner that led to Leicesters first goal, it should have been retaken because the ball was outsode the lines, it looked off the pitch from what I've seen.
The so called 2 clear penalties are a matter of opinion, I think one was and the ither I'm not so sure.
Our points tally maybe should be more and it's because of some dodgy reffing AND because we have been so slow across the pitch and Sheehan has for some reason turned a tad negative and cautious.
This squad could do better.
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Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 18:12 - Oct 6 with 108 views
Swansea City v Leicester City : Match day thread on 17:49 - Oct 6 by SullutaCreturned
Well when officials get it wrong and it affects the game it needs to be said. The goal at Birmingham was NOT offside.
Then there's the corner that led to Leicesters first goal, it should have been retaken because the ball was outsode the lines, it looked off the pitch from what I've seen.
The so called 2 clear penalties are a matter of opinion, I think one was and the ither I'm not so sure.
Our points tally maybe should be more and it's because of some dodgy reffing AND because we have been so slow across the pitch and Sheehan has for some reason turned a tad negative and cautious.
This squad could do better.
I agree this squad cou;d do better but many are focusing just on the dodgy decsions for our current league stabding. I agree the Birmingham goal was fine , we should have had a penalty v Millwall...but that said Sheehan s tactics selections and game managemant have also a huge part to play.....his subs and defensiveness against Hull cost us 2 points, his selections and subs v Watford earned us only a draw when possibly all 3 points could have been there .....
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