| Madsen 22:08 - Oct 22 with 8105 views | connell10 |
What a great game he had , the bloke looks class and put in some great tackles. Definitely my man of the match . Well done sir  |  |
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| Madsen on 23:03 - Oct 22 with 1942 views | daveB |
| Madsen on 22:39 - Oct 22 by PhilmyRs |
Maybe not abused but pretty sure it was you (and think you’re more one of the fair minded supporters), said“Madsen is sh*t, we should get rid” or similar after one of his average performances and this was during his first season in English football. So I do think it’s fair to say that he received a lack of backing from the fans.
Think the owner of this website said we should part ways with him after an average performance against Watford on his second game this season , even after putting in a decent performance first game. I’ve always backed him, though got to say not as big on him as some seem to be, but I definitely think he got a rough deal from the crowd and a lack of patience, with nobody believing this was a guy that given time, could adapt. Sign of the times I guess . |
I'm sure I did, he was dreadful last season, wouldn't run or put a tackle in and not great on the ball either, just strolled through games.
Completly different player since the Watford game, the work rate and work off the ball has transformed his game
You can only call what you see with players, last season was nowhere near good enough and this season he has been a lot better, long may it continue |  | | |
| Madsen on 05:42 - Oct 23 with 1591 views | EastR |
| Madsen on 22:42 - Oct 22 by Stanisgod |
I keep hearing about the 5 mil we're getting in Jan for Varane. Can't see it myself. |
Yeah, not seeing that either. Classy by name, agricultural by nature |  |
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| Madsen on 07:09 - Oct 23 with 1459 views | dmm |
At some point, Madsen will talk about his transformation this season. It will be fascinating to hear about it but I feel sure the key thing is confidence. The coaches have managed to convince him of what he can achieve on the pitch and he's taken that on board.
Most football players are just like the rest of us. They need a bit of help and encouragement in life. |  | | |
| Madsen on 07:32 - Oct 23 with 1390 views | QPROslo |
I've said it probably way too many times before but I thought Madsen showed his class in his exceptional ball control and passing vision in his first games for us last season, also running capacity when he scored against Luton. Plus his penalty taking and dead balls ability. Even more so in the last few games of last season. This season his defensive game has improved enormously, and as last night he is controlling games from the midfield. Look at his ball-winning tackle and first time pass forward all in one kick to Kone, I think it was, who fed Saito, who picked out Hayden's great run and little pull-back for Burrell to score. Don't know what happened to him in the middle of last season, but it is good he got back on it, because this version of Madsen could be a huge contribution to us having a really good season. | | | |
| Madsen on 07:35 - Oct 23 with 1381 views | Gus_iom |
I wasn't as down on Madsen as some, but I did think it best for both parties if we parted company - I have never seen a more miserable looking player on the pitch, I actually worried for him to a degree, and I'm normally pretty callous towards footballers, given how much they earn and how much I earn.
Not only have his performances consistently been good this season, but he's shown real strength of character to turn it around. So pleased for him, and for us- he looks like some player, now. | |
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| Madsen on 07:35 - Oct 23 with 1380 views | ingeminate |
| Madsen on 07:09 - Oct 23 by dmm |
At some point, Madsen will talk about his transformation this season. It will be fascinating to hear about it but I feel sure the key thing is confidence. The coaches have managed to convince him of what he can achieve on the pitch and he's taken that on board.
Most football players are just like the rest of us. They need a bit of help and encouragement in life. |
JS takes credit with the transformation under his watch.
I was adamant before and after Watford he couldn’t play in a two. Can’t remember if it was that game or another where the oppo scored from a corner where Madsen had been left back to cover - critically I saw that as despite being 6 foot 4 he wasn’t trusted to try and head the ball, then he was too naive to break the break with a foul and too slow to catch up to the breakaway.
Nice guy, but totally wrong league for him, poor signing, get rid or at the very least play him as a ten in front of two dogs of war.
What’s happened since has blown me away! I could t have been more wrong and never been as happy to be!!
1st name on the team sheet now. |  |
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| Madsen on 07:43 - Oct 23 with 1335 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Top player and lovely to watch a CM in a Rangers shirt being able to control and pass a ball.
If he gets injured we are stuffed as we have no direct replacement, the one game he sat out, Oxford, we were back to last seasons sideways and backwards. | |
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| Madsen on 07:57 - Oct 23 with 1270 views | QPROslo |
| Madsen on 07:43 - Oct 23 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Top player and lovely to watch a CM in a Rangers shirt being able to control and pass a ball.
If he gets injured we are stuffed as we have no direct replacement, the one game he sat out, Oxford, we were back to last seasons sideways and backwards. |
After the game when most of the screen was covered by an EFL stats caption I saw in the background an R's player looking like he was limping badly as he walked off the pitch. Anyone see that and know who it was, thought it was Madsen but possibly Field or Dunne? | | | |
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| Madsen on 07:58 - Oct 23 with 1261 views | stevec |
| Madsen on 07:35 - Oct 23 by ingeminate |
JS takes credit with the transformation under his watch.
I was adamant before and after Watford he couldn’t play in a two. Can’t remember if it was that game or another where the oppo scored from a corner where Madsen had been left back to cover - critically I saw that as despite being 6 foot 4 he wasn’t trusted to try and head the ball, then he was too naive to break the break with a foul and too slow to catch up to the breakaway.
Nice guy, but totally wrong league for him, poor signing, get rid or at the very least play him as a ten in front of two dogs of war.
What’s happened since has blown me away! I could t have been more wrong and never been as happy to be!!
1st name on the team sheet now. |
His transformation certainly correlates with the change of manager. |  | | |
| Madsen on 08:40 - Oct 23 with 1127 views | thehat |
| Madsen on 07:57 - Oct 23 by QPROslo |
After the game when most of the screen was covered by an EFL stats caption I saw in the background an R's player looking like he was limping badly as he walked off the pitch. Anyone see that and know who it was, thought it was Madsen but possibly Field or Dunne? |
Saito looked injured for the final few minutes but he had to stay on as we had used our three options for substitutions. | | | |
| Madsen on 08:41 - Oct 23 with 1122 views | thehat |
| Madsen on 08:40 - Oct 23 by thehat |
Saito looked injured for the final few minutes but he had to stay on as we had used our three options for substitutions. |
Oh and by the way I am enjoying eating all this humble pie regarding Madsen.
Bloody marvellous seeing this turnaround. | | | |
| Madsen on 08:42 - Oct 23 with 1112 views | gazza1 |
| Madsen on 22:21 - Oct 22 by baz_qpr |
Agree, sometimes we just have to be a bit more patient, if you were around for the Furlong redemption arc or the Zamora one when you know there is quality there but for whatever reason they struggle when they join, then you know to give it a bit more than half a season. Confidence is such a factor in sport, he needed longer to adapt and the patience and belief shown by the club is paying off.
If he maintains this and improves further you can seeing moving into one of the top flight leagues. |
Yes, I remember the Furlong abuse.....it was bad.
There he was with some decent history behind him having a bit of a tough time, ex Chelsea boy, etc, etc.....then he proved them all wrong. Top man, met him a few times and he speaks well.
I remember a Friday match (long time ago now), I think it was Cardiff and we got beat badly. It was when the bar was open in the SAR stand so I stayed & had a few beers to drown my sorry's.......low & behold I bumped into him walking along SAR whilst walking to the Station, he was choked about loosing the way we did. Had some good words to say, that's why he is a top bloke.
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| Madsen on 08:48 - Oct 23 with 1076 views | PhilmyRs |
| Madsen on 23:03 - Oct 22 by daveB |
I'm sure I did, he was dreadful last season, wouldn't run or put a tackle in and not great on the ball either, just strolled through games.
Completly different player since the Watford game, the work rate and work off the ball has transformed his game
You can only call what you see with players, last season was nowhere near good enough and this season he has been a lot better, long may it continue |
It’s all fair calling performances out when poor, it’s why we need places like this to vent. But Madsen and countless other players that have come to England for the first time, there seems to be a lack of patience. No acceptance that it could take him time to settle. For you, and others, to basically say we should take a large financial hit (because there was no way we were getting our money back last season) and ‘ged rid’ without trying to develop the player, improve his weaknesses, and show some faith in the lad, was the wrong call and I’d say a fairly harsh judgment.
People want instant success with players and aren’t willing to put the time in to improve their game and develop them. Our fanbase can be quick to judge and as the Madsen case shows, we need to make more allowances for some players and trust our coaching staff a bit more. | | | |
| Madsen on 08:52 - Oct 23 with 1057 views | StreathamRanger |
Most seem to think we're fattening up Varane for a sale in January or end of season but if Madsen continues like this we may well get some serious offers for him. He'd be harder to replace than Varane on current form. | | | |
| Madsen on 09:13 - Oct 23 with 992 views | TheChef |
| Madsen on 08:48 - Oct 23 by PhilmyRs |
It’s all fair calling performances out when poor, it’s why we need places like this to vent. But Madsen and countless other players that have come to England for the first time, there seems to be a lack of patience. No acceptance that it could take him time to settle. For you, and others, to basically say we should take a large financial hit (because there was no way we were getting our money back last season) and ‘ged rid’ without trying to develop the player, improve his weaknesses, and show some faith in the lad, was the wrong call and I’d say a fairly harsh judgment.
People want instant success with players and aren’t willing to put the time in to improve their game and develop them. Our fanbase can be quick to judge and as the Madsen case shows, we need to make more allowances for some players and trust our coaching staff a bit more. |
Yeah I think people forget players coming here from abroad, let alone the football side there's the whole settling in process to go through, in a new big city, away from family and friends. I know we have liaison officers to help with that but it's still not straightforward.
So pleased that it's clicking for him now, long may it continue. |  |
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| Madsen on 09:16 - Oct 23 with 987 views | DieByYourSide |
He used to be shite, now he's alright. Walking in a Madsen wonderland | |
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| Madsen on 09:29 - Oct 23 with 928 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Madsen on 07:09 - Oct 23 by dmm |
At some point, Madsen will talk about his transformation this season. It will be fascinating to hear about it but I feel sure the key thing is confidence. The coaches have managed to convince him of what he can achieve on the pitch and he's taken that on board.
Most football players are just like the rest of us. They need a bit of help and encouragement in life. |
Something along the lines of
'I was out of form, but when I read @HoopBoyFlyTheFlag8674727 incisive contribution on X; (he's shite get rid) it gave me the confidence to turn things around'
I called him a milksop to be fair so i'm also a guilty party. Glad to be proven wrong. [Post edited 23 Oct 9:30]
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| Madsen on 09:42 - Oct 23 with 871 views | JamesB1979 |
| Madsen on 22:36 - Oct 22 by Hunterhoop |
Fair is Fair. He was very good tonight, and has been very good so far this season. He’s a completely different player this season though. He’s working so much harder and he’s now breaking up play and competing, as well as progressing us up the pitch with some good passing. And it’s showing in the stats. Compare the stats here to last year when he went 4 games without a tackle.
Fair play to him for bucking his ideas up. He’s now putting the yards and hard work in most people were (rightly) caning him for last season for not doing.
Long may his form continue.
As an aside, I thought he and Hayden were a better partnership than him and Varane today. Thought Varane was poor again today when he came on. Would run with Hayden for a bit now. |
Agree Hayden should start over Varane. And Hayden was good first half but went missing 2nd half. But Varane, Chair and Dembele coming on did change the 2nd half so we actually looked threatening and created some chances. | | | |
| Madsen on 09:44 - Oct 23 with 852 views | nadera78 |
| Madsen on 08:48 - Oct 23 by PhilmyRs |
It’s all fair calling performances out when poor, it’s why we need places like this to vent. But Madsen and countless other players that have come to England for the first time, there seems to be a lack of patience. No acceptance that it could take him time to settle. For you, and others, to basically say we should take a large financial hit (because there was no way we were getting our money back last season) and ‘ged rid’ without trying to develop the player, improve his weaknesses, and show some faith in the lad, was the wrong call and I’d say a fairly harsh judgment.
People want instant success with players and aren’t willing to put the time in to improve their game and develop them. Our fanbase can be quick to judge and as the Madsen case shows, we need to make more allowances for some players and trust our coaching staff a bit more. |
There's a bit of an attempt to re-write history here. Madsen's performances for a large part of last season were so bad that he was getting 1 and 2 on the ratings. That's not being harsh, or people being too quick to judge, it was there in front of your face. He was, in some games, appallingly bad. Just lacking even the most basic elements of being a professional footballer. No-one was digging him out or attacking him or anything like, he was just flat out appalling.
That's what makes the turn around so remarkable. | | | |
| Madsen on 09:46 - Oct 23 with 834 views | Hunterhoop |
| Madsen on 09:44 - Oct 23 by nadera78 |
There's a bit of an attempt to re-write history here. Madsen's performances for a large part of last season were so bad that he was getting 1 and 2 on the ratings. That's not being harsh, or people being too quick to judge, it was there in front of your face. He was, in some games, appallingly bad. Just lacking even the most basic elements of being a professional footballer. No-one was digging him out or attacking him or anything like, he was just flat out appalling.
That's what makes the turn around so remarkable. |
That was Chair though. He was superb and looked so sharp. He changed the game. Dembele flattered to deceive again but for one nice, slipped through pass to Chair. Varane, but for one pretty diag, was poor, way too deep and looked off the pace. Never got into the game. We lost all control of the middle of the park for the last 10. He was the fresh legs in there, so that was disappointing. After the Millwall game too, think we should run with Hayden or Field there for a few games and see. |  | | |
| Madsen on 09:49 - Oct 23 with 810 views | Lblock |
| Madsen on 08:40 - Oct 23 by thehat |
Saito looked injured for the final few minutes but he had to stay on as we had used our three options for substitutions. |
Saito limped through the end of the game.
I’m pretty sure I saw Madsen….our new Lord Conqueror of All….pull up on the edge of our box right at the death.
Hopefully both cases just cramp (which shouldn’t be happening either but I’ll take it) |  |
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| Madsen on 09:52 - Oct 23 with 804 views | daveB |
| Madsen on 08:48 - Oct 23 by PhilmyRs |
It’s all fair calling performances out when poor, it’s why we need places like this to vent. But Madsen and countless other players that have come to England for the first time, there seems to be a lack of patience. No acceptance that it could take him time to settle. For you, and others, to basically say we should take a large financial hit (because there was no way we were getting our money back last season) and ‘ged rid’ without trying to develop the player, improve his weaknesses, and show some faith in the lad, was the wrong call and I’d say a fairly harsh judgment.
People want instant success with players and aren’t willing to put the time in to improve their game and develop them. Our fanbase can be quick to judge and as the Madsen case shows, we need to make more allowances for some players and trust our coaching staff a bit more. |
So should we stick Celar and Santos back in the team as well then, give them more time.
After the way he played last season if we could have got our money back I'd have sold him last summer even taken a small loss. All very well moving to a new country etc but he didn't look remotley interested most of the time, games just passing him by, all I wanted from him was a bit of effort and now he's showing it.
His transformation has been basically putting in tackles and running about a bit all things he could have done last season but it's great to see him realising what is needed and doing so well. | | | |
| Madsen on 09:55 - Oct 23 with 785 views | PhilmyRs |
| Madsen on 09:44 - Oct 23 by nadera78 |
There's a bit of an attempt to re-write history here. Madsen's performances for a large part of last season were so bad that he was getting 1 and 2 on the ratings. That's not being harsh, or people being too quick to judge, it was there in front of your face. He was, in some games, appallingly bad. Just lacking even the most basic elements of being a professional footballer. No-one was digging him out or attacking him or anything like, he was just flat out appalling.
That's what makes the turn around so remarkable. |
Yep, he was poor, in a very poor team, clearly struggling and was dropped by the Manager. Came back near the end of the season in a more stable environment and played better. With 30 games under his belt, some decent coaching and support from the management he’s come back strongly this year. Not unheard of for players to be lot better as they get up to speed and adapt to their new environment.
I personally didn’t see a player last season where I felt we should have just put our hands up and said we’ve signed a dud let’s sell him at a big loss and start again. I thought he deserved a bit more time and patience. If he’d been similarly poor at the start of this season with 2s and 3s I’d have reluctantly agreed, time to part ways. But I think harsh to have formed that view after 20 games last season. | | | |
| Madsen on 10:03 - Oct 23 with 709 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Madsen on 09:52 - Oct 23 by daveB |
So should we stick Celar and Santos back in the team as well then, give them more time.
After the way he played last season if we could have got our money back I'd have sold him last summer even taken a small loss. All very well moving to a new country etc but he didn't look remotley interested most of the time, games just passing him by, all I wanted from him was a bit of effort and now he's showing it.
His transformation has been basically putting in tackles and running about a bit all things he could have done last season but it's great to see him realising what is needed and doing so well. |
It was the lack of interest that was the most alarming aspect. Everybody has bad form at times, especially players new to the club and new to the country. But the lack of interest suggested either laziness, apathy or really poor mental health.
One way or the other, he seems to be much happier now, much more verbal, much more involved with his teammates. And working harder.
Long may it last, happy for him, and happy for us.
But I agree with those that say we shouldn't re-write history. We just can't afford new players to play as poorly as he did for much of last season, and we have to figure out why it happened. |  |
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| Madsen on 10:04 - Oct 23 with 697 views | dmm |
| Madsen on 09:46 - Oct 23 by Hunterhoop |
That was Chair though. He was superb and looked so sharp. He changed the game. Dembele flattered to deceive again but for one nice, slipped through pass to Chair. Varane, but for one pretty diag, was poor, way too deep and looked off the pace. Never got into the game. We lost all control of the middle of the park for the last 10. He was the fresh legs in there, so that was disappointing. After the Millwall game too, think we should run with Hayden or Field there for a few games and see. |
Varane hasn't been on it this season. It happens with young players in particular and I'm sure he'll improve but, I've never been a huge fan really. Perhaps I'm missing something.
Hayden's performance last night should see him start on Saturday. | | | |
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