| Dembele? 17:12 - Oct 25 with 2910 views | connell10 |
Is he to scared to cross a ball ? A few times he went around his man but instead of crossing just turned around and played it back. Im scratching my head as to why he thought this tactic would win us the game. |  |
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| Dembele? on 17:13 - Oct 25 with 2590 views | baz_qpr |
He can't kick with his right foot so he has to turn back every time |  | | |
| Dembele? on 17:16 - Oct 25 with 2537 views | HAYESBOY |
Vale guilty of it as well in the first half. |  |
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| Dembele? on 17:17 - Oct 25 with 2519 views | connell10 |
| Dembele? on 17:13 - Oct 25 by baz_qpr |
He can't kick with his right foot so he has to turn back every time |
Here's a idea play him on the other wing then. | |
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| Dembele? on 17:30 - Oct 25 with 2407 views | MelakaRanger |
Not just him. There was a point in the first half where we had 10 or more opportunites to put a cross into the box. But no. The players all just tippy tappy between them selves and eventually lost the ball to Derby. About 5 players seemingly all frightened to cross the ball |  | | |
| Dembele? on 17:33 - Oct 25 with 2374 views | FDC |
He's a frustrating player. Comes across as a nice lad, got some good attributes, can best a man but reliably then runs up a blind alley. The offside was ridiculous. Have to say he wouldn't make my squad tbh. |  | | |
| Dembele? on 17:34 - Oct 25 with 2366 views | FDC |
| Dembele? on 17:30 - Oct 25 by MelakaRanger |
Not just him. There was a point in the first half where we had 10 or more opportunites to put a cross into the box. But no. The players all just tippy tappy between them selves and eventually lost the ball to Derby. About 5 players seemingly all frightened to cross the ball |
So many times Dunne made a move in the box and either the player on the ball didn't see or didn't want to take on the cross. | | | |
| Dembele? on 17:36 - Oct 25 with 2344 views | sdm1508 |
Thought it was the wrong team starting today. Really rate Vale but he seems to play better at home on a smaller pitch. His lack of pace will always cause problems on larger pitches. Away from home we need our most mobile team. Hopefully Poku will be available soon. Smyth should have been on for Vale. Saito had a poor game. Would have like to see Burrell go out wide and Chair behind Kone |  | | |
| Dembele? on 17:36 - Oct 25 with 2343 views | connell10 |
| Dembele? on 17:30 - Oct 25 by MelakaRanger |
Not just him. There was a point in the first half where we had 10 or more opportunites to put a cross into the box. But no. The players all just tippy tappy between them selves and eventually lost the ball to Derby. About 5 players seemingly all frightened to cross the ball |
Yep I was literally shouting at the TV cross the ball. It was totally bizarre football from Rangers. | |
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| Dembele? on 17:44 - Oct 25 with 2269 views | baz_qpr |
Against Millwall we stuck in cross after cross to no avail, the problem is getting the balance right | | | |
| Dembele? on 18:12 - Oct 25 with 2082 views | dmm |
I didn't think we got bodies in the box quickly enough to warrant an early cross. By the time we did, the crosser of the ball had often been closed down. |  | | |
| Dembele? on 18:21 - Oct 25 with 2018 views | PlanetHonneywood |
Our delivery in the final third has been poor in the last three games.
Currently, we seem incapable of choosing or executing the right ball in. We need to just be more courageous, instead of fanny-arsing around. Today, I thought we were particularly poor, but it'll come. |  |
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| Dembele? on 18:54 - Oct 25 with 1879 views | davman |
It would have made little difference today. Aside from Kone's 'kin nightmare, Clarke won every cross thrown into their box. We were pathetic today; no fight, no drive. Passive all the way through and we got what we deserved, |  |
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| Dembele? on 19:36 - Oct 25 with 1740 views | Loyalitat |
| Dembele? on 17:17 - Oct 25 by connell10 |
Here's a idea play him on the other wing then. |
Indeed this. From memory, his best game for us this season was against Preston when lo and behold we played him on the left. He managed to create a goal by going to what is now a no-go area for all our wide players: venturing anywhere near to the by-line and delivering a cross. Smyth was just as reluctant on the left today. Saito has the ability to do it, but is way off it at present in terms of game consistency.
Unless you're as gifted as Bukayo Saka or Olise who are very adept in the inverted role, just stop persisting with it, or at least resort to it sparingly. As none of our wide players are any good at playing in that role. It just makes for a very easy afternoon for the opposing defence, as it's all very predictable. They also aren't very good at manipulating the ball in the manner that Chair and Willock used to do, even when the latter was past his peak form.
For mine, Smyth/Saito on the right and any of the others on the left, by all means swap at times. However, until this lot become more adept at being able to master the most basic of skills i.e. cross accurately with their weaker foot, let's revert to what was convention in football for many years.
Many players from yesteryear had no problems in being adept to go either way and deliver a cross with their weaker foot. Dave Thomas, Andy Sinton, Wayne Fereday, Trevor Sinclair all spring to mind. There are no excuses for the current crops' patent inability in this regard. [Post edited 25 Oct 21:10]
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| Dembele? on 21:15 - Oct 25 with 1499 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Dembele? on 17:44 - Oct 25 by baz_qpr |
Against Millwall we stuck in cross after cross to no avail, the problem is getting the balance right |
Yes, but almost never to a QPR shirt! |  |
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| Dembele? on 21:35 - Oct 25 with 1456 views | NorrisGreen |
I've seen enough of him to decide he's a dud. He's failed to make the step up from League One and hasn't put in a single 90 minute performance for us.
I would loan him out in January and hopefully entice someone to buy him in the summer.
Obviously I'd prefer him do do well here but there's no room for sentiment when a player serially fails to deliver.
Lastly, I don't want to be "sizeist" but Derby physically dominated us today - we can't be fielding more than 2 or 3 diminutive players in games and what with Saito, Chair, Poku and Smyth about I feel Dembele is one too many little 'uns. | | | |
| Dembele? on 23:15 - Oct 25 with 1228 views | BrianWilson |
When things are not going well, he always stands out as one of the worst. Dunno if his head drops or it's a confidence thing. He has the talent IMO. |  |
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| Dembele? on 23:53 - Oct 25 with 1148 views | numptydumpty |
| Dembele? on 23:15 - Oct 25 by BrianWilson |
When things are not going well, he always stands out as one of the worst. Dunno if his head drops or it's a confidence thing. He has the talent IMO. |
He has immense talent but he can be anonymous too often. His quality and finishing skills on his best days only ever appear in flashes.
i think he loses focus easily and is a player that doesnt overly worry if he is not playing well. He still gets his salary and i see no desire or anger with himself to perform at a better and more consistent level.
Reluctant to write players off now, a la Madsen, but can i see this with Dembele. Sadly not. Was quite interesting to see his brother playing for Oxford. Are they in fact the same person and player profile. Seeing his brother likewise flattering to deceive, i dont see the steps up coming.
Hope i am wrong, though !! |  |
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| Dembele? on 00:09 - Oct 26 with 1108 views | Gus_iom |
We're nullifying our own wingers by inverting them, and transitioning the ball too slowly.
I don't think it's fair to question Dembeles desire, sometimes I think he's trying too hard. We need to widen the pitch, get the ball to him quickly and let him run at a retreating back line. Currently, by the time the ball reaches our 'flair' players, the back line is set and cover in place. | |
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| Dembele? on 00:28 - Oct 26 with 1069 views | VancouverHoop |
Why do we start matches so tentatively? Post- Coventry we began running hard at teams from the off, and it worked. Now we seem to have become slow and fearful again.
I really don't buy the 'Three Game Week,' fatigue factor. After all it's the same for every club. We've got a relatively strong bench now and few injuries compared to many other teams. So what's the problem? | | | |
| Dembele? on 07:48 - Oct 26 with 779 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Dembele? on 00:09 - Oct 26 by Gus_iom |
We're nullifying our own wingers by inverting them, and transitioning the ball too slowly.
I don't think it's fair to question Dembeles desire, sometimes I think he's trying too hard. We need to widen the pitch, get the ball to him quickly and let him run at a retreating back line. Currently, by the time the ball reaches our 'flair' players, the back line is set and cover in place. |
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| Dembele? on 07:49 - Oct 26 with 779 views | Hunterhoop |
| Dembele? on 17:13 - Oct 25 by baz_qpr |
He can't kick with his right foot so he has to turn back every time |
This is the problem.
Both wingers were inverted so had to cut back onto their favoured foot, but that meant cutting back into trouble and congestion. It also allowed their centre halves to get set properly to deal with any chipped in swinger that was delivered.
We never tried to get to the byline. We rarely stretched them wide.
Whenever Dunne got the ball, Dembélé’s starting position was narrow, inside the full back up ahead. This isn’t on the player. All of them take up that position. It’s clearly what Stephan has asked of them. But it forces our full backs to provide our width, which I don’t think is their strength. And it makes us narrow when attacking which is much easier for organised teams to defend against.
It’s annoying. At least try switching them onto their natural flank occasionally. |  | | |
| Dembele? on 08:01 - Oct 26 with 746 views | gazza1 |
| Dembele? on 07:49 - Oct 26 by Hunterhoop |
This is the problem.
Both wingers were inverted so had to cut back onto their favoured foot, but that meant cutting back into trouble and congestion. It also allowed their centre halves to get set properly to deal with any chipped in swinger that was delivered.
We never tried to get to the byline. We rarely stretched them wide.
Whenever Dunne got the ball, Dembélé’s starting position was narrow, inside the full back up ahead. This isn’t on the player. All of them take up that position. It’s clearly what Stephan has asked of them. But it forces our full backs to provide our width, which I don’t think is their strength. And it makes us narrow when attacking which is much easier for organised teams to defend against.
It’s annoying. At least try switching them onto their natural flank occasionally. |
I agree Hunter........Going inside it takes him into a lot of traffic and does not get the space he needs. Dembele isn't playing well and is making the wrong decisions and taking the wrong options. | | | |
| Dembele? on 09:14 - Oct 26 with 604 views | dmm |
I fear for Dembele's future at QPR. He's had plenty of minutes this season, albeit mostly off the bench, and has been a long way short of expectations. With Poku about to return, the competition for the front 3 places is even greater and I can see him being out of favour very quickly. | | | |
| Dembele? on 09:42 - Oct 26 with 537 views | OldPedro |
| Dembele? on 07:49 - Oct 26 by Hunterhoop |
This is the problem.
Both wingers were inverted so had to cut back onto their favoured foot, but that meant cutting back into trouble and congestion. It also allowed their centre halves to get set properly to deal with any chipped in swinger that was delivered.
We never tried to get to the byline. We rarely stretched them wide.
Whenever Dunne got the ball, Dembélé’s starting position was narrow, inside the full back up ahead. This isn’t on the player. All of them take up that position. It’s clearly what Stephan has asked of them. But it forces our full backs to provide our width, which I don’t think is their strength. And it makes us narrow when attacking which is much easier for organised teams to defend against.
It’s annoying. At least try switching them onto their natural flank occasionally. |
I noticed in the first half that Saito did something similar a few times when RND had the ball, instead of hugging the touchline and give RND a wide option, Saito ran inside.
Seems like a deliberate tactic to me |  |
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| Dembele? on 11:18 - Oct 26 with 383 views | Hunterhoop |
| Dembele? on 09:42 - Oct 26 by OldPedro |
I noticed in the first half that Saito did something similar a few times when RND had the ball, instead of hugging the touchline and give RND a wide option, Saito ran inside.
Seems like a deliberate tactic to me |
I’m sure it’s deliberate. But it’s not working now. Perhaps teams are savvy to it. Either way, I’d like Stephan to encourage more width when we attack and play wingers on their natural side to encourage away swinging crosses from the outside closer to the byline. | | | |
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