| Is this the fanbase we have become? 09:36 - Aug 6 with 12814 views | Ned_Kennedys |
Disappointed by the mass bed wetting on here this weekend:a number calling for Ainsworth to go after the bloody first match of the season FFS. We are surely better than that.
Loads of negatives about the team and formation yesterday and the post match interview wasn’t great but do any of you think the squad we currently have available is what Ainsworth wants and isn’t the major factor for yesterday? The four experienced centre backs he had at the end of last season have gone or are injured. Laird not replaced. Midfield so weak that Dozzell is in the team.
Judge the guy after 5/6 games when we should have our better players fit and a few new players in the squad inc loans. McClaren had a disastrous start to his season but he was given a chance: surely Ainsworth deserves this? A lot of the current problems are down to those above him at QPR and those problems will remain whoever is the manager…. |  | | |  |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 15:58 - Aug 6 with 2553 views | Damo1962 |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 13:56 - Aug 6 by cpgerber |
Don’t forget we did the double over Watford last season, which probably highlights how far we have regessed (I don’t think Watford progressed by that much).
There are mitigating circumstances, certainly the Dunne and JCS injuries (the latter totally predictable, so we should have had a back-up plan. Still think letting Masterson go was a big mistake). But I am also not seeing any progress here. Week in week out its the same issues and the same response from players and manager.
I don’t really know what or how to feel at the moment. Keep supporting the team and hope next game will go better, although I am not very optimistic.
Problem is, I can’t see myself ever supporting any other team in England, so I am in this for life. Unlike some players running down a contract…. |
We have all been given life sentences. Though you do at least get to appeal some times, if you have good Lawyer😉 |  | | |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 16:10 - Aug 6 with 2476 views | paulparker |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 15:53 - Aug 6 by R_from_afar |
Some of our recent successes have been achieved with the help of older players. Not all our acquisitions need to be young, most teams benefit from having some experienced heads, plus proven, decent, younger players are costly. The key things are ability, fitness and desire. 
That said, Ainsworth needs to turn this round very quickly. His record since he arrived is poor and we need to avoid getting cut adrift at the bottom of the table.
We need a new DoF urgently, ideally someone who has lots of experience in the English leagues. Ainsworth needs help right now plus if results continue to be unacceptable, Amit and Ruben will need input from a wise head when the change has to be made. We have to get a DoF in as a priority. |
Sorry but what is a DOF going to do here with this board ?
The past 8 years we have the board making managerial choices, the DOF making his managerial choices , the managers bringing in their own players,the DOF bringing in his , the board sack a manager and then have an itch they can’t swarthy the DOF falls out with the manager , we have had numerous players come and go for stupid money and missed out numerous bargains we could of had and sold on
The coaching staff are never replaced it’s all way to cushy
Our only success story has been Eze and the 10 million we got for Sterling who never played a minute for the club and was around way before the board ever came in
Until this board go nothing is ever going to change at this club |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 16:22 - Aug 6 with 2450 views | TacticalR |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 11:16 - Aug 6 by PunteR |
Yeh plenty of posters on here used to defend that guy. Where is he now? |
Fled the scene of the crime. |  |
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| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 16:38 - Aug 6 with 2388 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 15:41 - Aug 6 by Ned_Kennedys |
I was referring to those calling for Ainsworth to be sacked after one game and I would add to that those suggesting we beg Warburton to come back to save us.
To be clear though if Ainsworth continues to give team selections, formations, performances and results like yesterday over the next month then of course he should go: he has to get this sorry bunch to perform better and win matches. |
OK but still nowt to do with chants on the terraces as you were specifically referring to opinions on here. To be fair, I agree with many of the underlying points you make; nevertheless I don't subscribe to criticising the fanbase as they are entitled to their opinion and have continued to turn up in numbers despite the slop served since October 2022. |  | | |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 16:56 - Aug 6 with 2312 views | Lblock |
Just read this thread.
Refreshing to see some apathy being shaken off and the rose tinted specs dropping from the noses of people.
Too late though.
The owners have killed the club and ballsed up once in a generation opportunity TWICE in their tenure.
I remain disappointed that the Bushstone Cowboy Ains is getting the main flack; it needs to be higher up the rungs of the club……but, the two main protagonists have slunk out the back door leaving a proper turd in the khazi with no chain to flush it.
It does appear the cowboy is out of his depth but I did smile at the rhetoric months ago of people saying “we can’t ruin him, we need to stand behind him in the tough times ahead”…….yet again the Board got their way and avoided any wrath.
Forget the fan base we’ve become - - - it’s the fan base we were that’s killed us |  |
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| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 17:07 - Aug 6 with 2259 views | Jules4367 |
I am not on at Ainsworth... I am angry with the players and it doesn't matter who the manager is ...if the players are scared to commit to a shot then there is little during the game that the manager or coaches can do!
It is however what happens week on week and that comes down to the coach and the coaches as well as the players.
If we have kept a team of players that keep doing and not doing the same thing then that is not on Ainsworth! | | | |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 17:11 - Aug 6 with 2252 views | ridethewave |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 14:57 - Aug 6 by essextaxiboy |
But its ultimately self defeating isnt it ? . Wherever you sit on this debate we all want improvement and results . I dont see how anybody will improve (at anything really) by being publicly ridiculed and abused. |
Well to take the other side of this, nobody is going to improve by being hyped up by the happy clappers either, so no point in posting anything positive either… thus, the only conclusion then is that we must disband the forum, for posting anything at all is pointless! [Post edited 6 Aug 2023 17:26]
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| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 17:20 - Aug 6 with 2214 views | WestonsuperR |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 12:51 - Aug 6 by baz_qpr |
I have never called for a manager to go first game of the season, I've always believed in giving the manager time. But...
I've never witnessed in my near 50 years supporting the club, such a shambolic pre-season and set up for the first game of the season. The approach of 22 players need to adapt to my old skool way of thinking and playing (rather than the coach adapting to get the best out of his players) He was supposed to be the great motivator Mr Positivity but its all "I will keep us up" "We can be competitive" . I've never seen anything like it. Where are all these lower league Gems, he wants control of recruitment and he has brought in the square root of f-all bar some big "names" 33 and 36 years old who he talks about like he is a Sunday league manager who has a got an ex-pro to come down and play for him.He's lost the dressing room (if he ever had it), He's lost the supporters.
What on earth is there to wait for, I'm really sorry he's made such huge mistakes that look unrecoverable from. He says dont blame the players blame me, well I am and its miles of not being good enough |
Brilliant post and sums up my feelings perfectly. I never wanted Ga, couldn’t understand the appointment but have to say we are in such a poor state I’d be amazed if a Manager can come in and turn it around, although I guess we have to try. |  | | |
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| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 19:00 - Aug 6 with 2068 views | essextaxiboy |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 17:11 - Aug 6 by ridethewave |
Well to take the other side of this, nobody is going to improve by being hyped up by the happy clappers either, so no point in posting anything positive either… thus, the only conclusion then is that we must disband the forum, for posting anything at all is pointless! [Post edited 6 Aug 2023 17:26]
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You don't have to be a happy clapper to just want to wait and see for a bit . If it carries on for 10 games like this of course it can only lead one way ... that my view |  | | |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 22:46 - Aug 6 with 1863 views | connell10 |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 19:00 - Aug 6 by essextaxiboy |
You don't have to be a happy clapper to just want to wait and see for a bit . If it carries on for 10 games like this of course it can only lead one way ... that my view |
So what would be acceptable to you over the next 10 games? 2 wins , a few draws? What's acceptable in your opinion? |  |
| AND WHEN I DREAM , I DREAM ABOUT YOU AND WHEN I SCREAM I SCREAM ABOUT YOU!!!!! | | Poll: | best number 10 ever? |
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| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 22:59 - Aug 6 with 1840 views | daveB |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 15:53 - Aug 6 by R_from_afar |
Some of our recent successes have been achieved with the help of older players. Not all our acquisitions need to be young, most teams benefit from having some experienced heads, plus proven, decent, younger players are costly. The key things are ability, fitness and desire.
That said, Ainsworth needs to turn this round very quickly. His record since he arrived is poor and we need to avoid getting cut adrift at the bottom of the table.
We need a new DoF urgently, ideally someone who has lots of experience in the English leagues. Ainsworth needs help right now plus if results continue to be unacceptable, Amit and Ruben will need input from a wise head when the change has to be made. We have to get a DoF in as a priority. |
I'm not against signing experienced players but need a balance and I think we're going too far down the experienced road at the moment. The team has lacked energy and pace in it for a few years which won't be fixed by more 30+ players |  | | |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 23:27 - Aug 6 with 1807 views | FrankRightguard |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 15:41 - Aug 6 by Ned_Kennedys |
I was referring to those calling for Ainsworth to be sacked after one game and I would add to that those suggesting we beg Warburton to come back to save us.
To be clear though if Ainsworth continues to give team selections, formations, performances and results like yesterday over the next month then of course he should go: he has to get this sorry bunch to perform better and win matches. |
It’s not one game though is it?
He proved himself incapable of getting a tune out of them last season, pre season and yesterday. He’s so out of his depth when he talks you can see the bubbles. To be saying we’ll get out of the relegation scrap before a ball has been kicked in anger is a disgrace. What message does that sent the players other than that the manager thinks they’re pony to start with?
Should never have got the job, should never have kept the job. Time to cut our losses on this one. |  | | |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 23:33 - Aug 6 with 1791 views | connell10 |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 23:27 - Aug 6 by FrankRightguard |
It’s not one game though is it?
He proved himself incapable of getting a tune out of them last season, pre season and yesterday. He’s so out of his depth when he talks you can see the bubbles. To be saying we’ll get out of the relegation scrap before a ball has been kicked in anger is a disgrace. What message does that sent the players other than that the manager thinks they’re pony to start with?
Should never have got the job, should never have kept the job. Time to cut our losses on this one. |
Sorry ment to mark you up not down. | |
| AND WHEN I DREAM , I DREAM ABOUT YOU AND WHEN I SCREAM I SCREAM ABOUT YOU!!!!! | | Poll: | best number 10 ever? |
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| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 23:35 - Aug 6 with 1784 views | essextaxiboy |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 22:46 - Aug 6 by connell10 |
So what would be acceptable to you over the next 10 games? 2 wins , a few draws? What's acceptable in your opinion? |
OK I would disregard yesterday in my number of games , it should have been a home game . I would also not count the Norwich Cup tie
If we haven't got 12 points or more by the end of the Blackburn home game on Oct 7th I would say cheerio . Its not working we have to act
That is pro rata to reach the historic safe total of 47 plus 10% margin . It also gives him 4 home games after the window is shut . He would know his squad , they should be fully match fit . Then the claim that he was taking us down would have some science behind it . He could not expect to continue ... IMO | | | |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 23:37 - Aug 6 with 1781 views | essextaxiboy |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 16:38 - Aug 6 by Benny_the_Ball |
OK but still nowt to do with chants on the terraces as you were specifically referring to opinions on here. To be fair, I agree with many of the underlying points you make; nevertheless I don't subscribe to criticising the fanbase as they are entitled to their opinion and have continued to turn up in numbers despite the slop served since October 2022. |
You are right of course . I read the thread title and just related it to the fans I had seen the day before. | | | |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 08:49 - Aug 7 with 1569 views | daveB |
On the type of fanbase we've become the type of fan I've become was one going on Saturday planning to do every Saturday game this year and excited about it, had been planning it with my son during the summer. It took 20 minutes for us to say we won't bother with Cardiff and I'm not even sure we'll do all the home games now if thats the team giving everything.
Maybe thats wetting the bed, I feel like as a club we've shit the bed to be honest and are happy rolling around in it just hoping the smell goes away [Post edited 7 Aug 2023 8:50]
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| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 09:01 - Aug 7 with 1544 views | sparkey |
I refuse to believe anyone watched that first 45 mins and thought the issue was the fans.
The team and effort levels were an absolute disgrace, tempted to try get a refund on my season ticket now | | | |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 09:12 - Aug 7 with 1512 views | Bluce_Ree |
The circle continues. QPR play shit, people post about it, someone posts about the complaints.
The thing is, that circle starts with QPR playing shit doesn't it?
This isn't based on one result. It's based on a blaverage to poor pre-season friendly campaign, our most meaningful signing being us replacing a quite good goalie with an older quite good goalie and us being shit since the end of 2022. None of this is kneejerk.
I liked what Ainsworth said in Clive's interview but he's not the one and never has been.
We're fked and it's pretty clear but, you know what, it's alright. Fk it. If we go down at least next season we'll win more games and go up in like three to four years.
I'm just going to hope that Chelsea and Liverpool have shit seasons again and try to scrape some joy out of this season. |  |
| Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. |
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| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 09:16 - Aug 7 with 1499 views | Rangersw12 |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 08:49 - Aug 7 by daveB |
On the type of fanbase we've become the type of fan I've become was one going on Saturday planning to do every Saturday game this year and excited about it, had been planning it with my son during the summer. It took 20 minutes for us to say we won't bother with Cardiff and I'm not even sure we'll do all the home games now if thats the team giving everything.
Maybe thats wetting the bed, I feel like as a club we've shit the bed to be honest and are happy rolling around in it just hoping the smell goes away [Post edited 7 Aug 2023 8:50]
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I know exactly how you feel and if it wasn't the fact we've already booked trains for Cardiff and Southampton I wouldn't be bothering either .
I'm tempted to cancel my ST aswell as if that's giving their all they can do one .
The club is a joke and is just drifting into oblivion. | | | |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 09:34 - Aug 7 with 1436 views | Gloucs_R |
I've made a decision not to put any more money into the club until there is a massive change.
Appreciate I don't go to as many games as most of you but I still buy the kids replica kits and lots of bits for Christmas / birthdays. I wont be doing so this year.
As a fan it's the only way I can show my unhappiness with the way everything has been managed. |  |
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| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 10:01 - Aug 7 with 1347 views | NorthantsHoop |
I have to own up I really liked Mark Warburton as our manager with Eustace alongside him. We played decent football, were competitive and there seemed to be standards. I know the wheels came off in the last few months of the 2021/2022 season, but sort of felt Warburton and his team had the ability and experience to push on further. Last season under all 3 managers from my seat in the upper loft I was watching 11 blokes running round trying to look like footballers but really just going through the motions, we were outplayed, outfought and tactically trounced by most of, if not all the away teams. Forget the Beale period it was not exactly sparkling home form under him, he got lucky. Forget Critchley wrong bloke, wrong time and now we have Gareth who does not seem to have a clue on how to manage so called better players and set up a team, especially ones that could be game changers i.e. Chair and Willock. It's all very sad and I am actually dreading watching this lot against Ipswich in a couple of weeks. Will it get better, probably not as the whole lot of them look useless and with the money stuff thrown in, just compounds the problem. |  | | |
| Is this the fanbase we have become? on 20:51 - Aug 7 with 1101 views | BushRanger82 |
Head in the sand attitude isn't going to make a blind bit of difference. |  | | |
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