| Points,required for safety 12:47 - Mar 25 with 10395 views | numptydumpty |
Five for me gets us to 50 points
A draw away at Stoke and home win against Cardiff in next two fixtures, could well be enough, given they are matches against clubs in greater danger than ourselves.
Eight games left...
What do others feel is required?? [Post edited 25 Mar 12:48]
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| Points,required for safety on 13:03 - Mar 27 with 2421 views | Rsole |
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| Points,required for safety on 13:07 - Mar 27 with 2411 views | Rsole |
Let’s all hope that Incontinentia doesn’t visit in a few weeks from now….
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| Points,required for safety on 14:04 - Mar 27 with 2315 views | bosh67 |
| Points,required for safety on 12:56 - Mar 25 by LazyFan |
Sjoke is a 6 pointer for both teams.
Win that, and we should be good as we only need 2 draws then.
Marti will have drilled that into them; the heat will be on the players. Expect instant aggression from kick off. |
"Marti will have drilled that into them; the heat will be on the players. Expect instant aggression from kick off."
Or... Marti saying he's disappointed that we didn't start more quickly and it's difficult to get back into the game when you've conceded two quick sloppy goals by kicking the ball in your own net.
This is the point. You never know what QPR is going to turn up. Stoke have had some very late defeats recently and they won't be at their most confident, but we have to turn up determined that half of what we need to maintain Championship football has to be gained at their expense on Saturday. The players going onto that pitch really have to have their heads in gear. |  |
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| Points,required for safety on 14:07 - Mar 27 with 2297 views | TheChef |
| Points,required for safety on 14:04 - Mar 27 by bosh67 |
"Marti will have drilled that into them; the heat will be on the players. Expect instant aggression from kick off."
Or... Marti saying he's disappointed that we didn't start more quickly and it's difficult to get back into the game when you've conceded two quick sloppy goals by kicking the ball in your own net.
This is the point. You never know what QPR is going to turn up. Stoke have had some very late defeats recently and they won't be at their most confident, but we have to turn up determined that half of what we need to maintain Championship football has to be gained at their expense on Saturday. The players going onto that pitch really have to have their heads in gear. |
If we play with the same intensity as we did against Leeds then we have a chance.
Sadly I'm not expecting it though.
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| Points,required for safety on 15:43 - Mar 27 with 2201 views | kensalriser |
Is 69 going to be enough for sixth? |  |
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| Points,required for safety on 15:57 - Mar 27 with 2183 views | kensalriser |
| Points,required for safety on 09:09 - Mar 27 by TheChef |
That's what is so remarkable, how different sets of players can churn out similar crappy results across several seasons.
The QPR dna clearly is strong!
I don't know how Warnock briefly reversed that, but it seems the juju spells he learnt in West Africa did work for a time. Well, that and Mick Jones just shouting at people. |
It's no mystery how Warnock did it - he had a division busting budget. And that's generally how it works in this division. We haven't had the budget in the last ten years so we've struggled. | |
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| Points,required for safety on 16:56 - Mar 27 with 2127 views | themodfather |
if not said already, if i needed 1500 loyalty points for an oxford ticket then we need 3000 to stay up! |  | | |
| Points,required for safety on 17:06 - Mar 27 with 2111 views | dmm |
In his pre match interview, Marti says he wants 4 wins from the remaining 8 games to achieve a higher points total than last season. I can see us getting maybe 3 but not 4. |  | | |
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| Points,required for safety on 22:37 - Mar 27 with 1953 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Points,required for safety on 22:43 - Mar 26 by Lblock |
Funnily enough I think one of the close calls was as the man said above.
We were top six in January and even I said “I think we’re safe”
I simply cannot believe how often this club circles the drain.
I am absolutely mystified as to how we are, again, under Marti who is the finest Manager we’ve had in a decade.
Why the fcuk do they do it to us all the bloody time? |
Perhaps Marti isn't after all 'the finest manager we've had in a decade', but the latest incarnation in a maddening, inconsistent, sometimes-good-sometimes-crap bag. (An anarchic thought for some on here, I know!) [Post edited 27 Mar 22:47]
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| Points,required for safety on 02:24 - Mar 28 with 1895 views | E15Hoop |
| Points,required for safety on 22:37 - Mar 27 by stainrods_elbow |
Perhaps Marti isn't after all 'the finest manager we've had in a decade', but the latest incarnation in a maddening, inconsistent, sometimes-good-sometimes-crap bag. (An anarchic thought for some on here, I know!) [Post edited 27 Mar 22:47]
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Who said that these two sets of dynamics had to be mutually exclusive? | | | |
| Points,required for safety on 05:53 - Mar 28 with 1814 views | Rsole |
| Points,required for safety on 22:37 - Mar 27 by stainrods_elbow |
Perhaps Marti isn't after all 'the finest manager we've had in a decade', but the latest incarnation in a maddening, inconsistent, sometimes-good-sometimes-crap bag. (An anarchic thought for some on here, I know!) [Post edited 27 Mar 22:47]
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I think that when Marti’s been able to play a system that suits the resources he has, he produces results. That reflects a level of relative success and I think it’s been positive for the club in general, with several players making progress and showing improvements - mostly in that(those) period(s) of greater flexibility.
I think we have all got behind it when it’s worked - one way or another.
There have been some anomalies along the way - weird selections, substitutions and at times, strange body language and implications in comments. I would assume some of those decisions have been mistakes and some of that’s messaging clearly aimed at others in the club.
Where we have failed is when the system seemingly doesn’t suit the players and it’s clearly not his chosen system. The players get pissed off when they are not winning and some of them have also called it in when, probably because they think they are safe, OOC, facing possible injuries etc etc etc. For example, if you can’t play out from the back, why are you practising it before a critical game AND still failing at it with no opposition ?!? Madness.
All of that to one side - what’s next if it’s not Marti ? The chances are that it’ll be a Nourry stooge that takes the shekels, does what he’s told and shuts the fcuk up about it. Any insight into the above shenanigans will be tied up in a settlement agreement that protects the club from us finding out for sure what happened.
Then we will have a fixed system (that has never really worked with the players we have - so far), a new coach (won’t be another manager under Nourry), many new/unproven players and a bunch of fairly pissed off fans, who probably won’t be so keen to put in all those miles and hard earned cash for tickets anymore.
How does the club benefit from that change ? In any possible way - short, medium or long term.
Maybe 2-3 players come good in a specific position in the 4:2:3:1 formation and we sell them. Hard to see that if the club isn’t performing, regardless of how good the players are unless they are standouts like Eze.
At best we’ll be in 16th position again next year and at worst, relegated if we stick to a losing system.
If no one challenges Nourry’s thinking and decisions to provide some form of balance, then I fear we will regress pretty quickly. [Post edited 28 Mar 5:57]
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| Points,required for safety on 07:51 - Mar 28 with 1738 views | loftboy |
Probably depends on who we take the points off, I reckon 4 if it’s from Cardiff and Stoke or 5-6 if it’s Burnley and Sunderland. Obviously we may get some more from other games but the above would be the bare minimum. |  |
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| Points,required for safety on 15:52 - Mar 29 with 1458 views | Lblock |
How we feeling chaps?
Job lot of plastic bedsheets available if anyone’s interested.
This lot look fcuking woeful
When you’ve got Anderson and Fox starting and Demble is your centre forward then I’d say we’re in trouble.
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| Points,required for safety on 16:05 - Mar 29 with 1412 views | Lblock |
How we feeling chaps?
Job lot of plastic bedsheets available if anyone’s interested.
This lot look fcuking woeful
When you’ve got Anderson and Fox starting and Demble is your centre forward then I’d say we’re in trouble.
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| Points,required for safety on 16:17 - Mar 29 with 1396 views | joolsyp |
| Points,required for safety on 07:51 - Mar 28 by loftboy |
Probably depends on who we take the points off, I reckon 4 if it’s from Cardiff and Stoke or 5-6 if it’s Burnley and Sunderland. Obviously we may get some more from other games but the above would be the bare minimum. |
That’s looking very optimistic right now. |  | | |
| Points,required for safety on 16:27 - Mar 29 with 1363 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
Tbh I'm starting to think it would be worth going down. Look at Birmingham - crap for years, get relegated and now look at them. I just don't think I can stomach more of this bilge. | | | |
| Points,required for safety on 17:14 - Mar 29 with 1263 views | komradkirk |
7 games to go and all battles.
I fear we are going to gunfights with a water pistol and no balls. |  | | |
| Points,required for safety on 17:17 - Mar 29 with 1247 views | Beckenhamhoop |
| Points,required for safety on 17:14 - Mar 29 by komradkirk |
7 games to go and all battles.
I fear we are going to gunfights with a water pistol and no balls. |
6 of the 8 playing teams below us picked up points today. | | | |
| Points,required for safety on 17:37 - Mar 29 with 1170 views | joe90 |
| Points,required for safety on 16:09 - Mar 26 by Juzzie |
I used this link previously supplied; https://www.worldfootball.net/table_calculator/eng-championship/
I put every QPR game down as a loss and as realistic as I could for all the others (of course, football isn't like that and there will be surprises) and we ended up 21st.
The fact that a lot of the teams at the bottom are all playing each other really helps.
edit: I then went back and amended the QPR games (leaving the others as is) with what I think could be realistic results and we ended up ....... you guessed it....16th!
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We’ve only finished 16th once in last 8 seasons. I4th is probably our average spot.
After today’s result we’re back into a relegation fight. It’s going to be an exciting end to the season… [Post edited 29 Mar 17:51]
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| Points,required for safety on 18:57 - Mar 29 with 1054 views | R_from_afar |
| Points,required for safety on 16:27 - Mar 29 by Wegerles_Stairs |
Tbh I'm starting to think it would be worth going down. Look at Birmingham - crap for years, get relegated and now look at them. I just don't think I can stomach more of this bilge. |
What makes you think we'd improve if we went down? There really is no guarantee.
The swanning around by our players, just expecting things to magically happen if they (slowly) pass the ball to each other a lot, might be even worse one division down.
We're in a real mess. Of course  .
If QPR were a spaceship, it would be permanently set to self-destruct. This club!  |  |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| Points,required for safety on 22:12 - Mar 29 with 897 views | Lblock |
| Points,required for safety on 16:27 - Mar 29 by Wegerles_Stairs |
Tbh I'm starting to think it would be worth going down. Look at Birmingham - crap for years, get relegated and now look at them. I just don't think I can stomach more of this bilge. |
You having a fcukin larf?!
Brum have had HUGE investment and are spending where there’s no limits ready for next year.
We drop and it’s perceivable that we’re dropped by the owners, Marti walks and we are picking up the bat phone to Ollie
What troubles me is a dogfight where we have no dogs
You take James Dunne and Frey out of this side and do we really have the right animals? Smyth gives 200%, Varanne is a battler, Morrison possibly good attitude, but after that I’m not sure.
Maybe it all boils down to we actually are fcukin shit | |
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| Points,required for safety on 00:00 - Mar 30 with 814 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Points,required for safety on 22:12 - Mar 29 by Lblock |
You having a fcukin larf?!
Brum have had HUGE investment and are spending where there’s no limits ready for next year.
We drop and it’s perceivable that we’re dropped by the owners, Marti walks and we are picking up the bat phone to Ollie
What troubles me is a dogfight where we have no dogs
You take James Dunne and Frey out of this side and do we really have the right animals? Smyth gives 200%, Varanne is a battler, Morrison possibly good attitude, but after that I’m not sure.
Maybe it all boils down to we actually are fcukin shit |
Yes, Birmingham spent lots this season so why couldn't we do the same? Just fed up with the same crap year after year in this division. The pathetic performances like today, the consecutive runs of defeats (six away defeats on the bounce), the lack of progress...
Tbh I don't think we will go down but something needs to change. | | | |
| Points,required for safety on 07:59 - Mar 30 with 671 views | Harbour |
Brum went down with 50 so I think we need 6 to be safe. Not sure where they are coming from. Cardiff Oxford Swansea Preston 1 win three draws? | | | |
| Points,required for safety on 08:28 - Mar 30 with 613 views | ThGrimRanger |
| Points,required for safety on 07:59 - Mar 30 by Harbour |
Brum went down with 50 so I think we need 6 to be safe. Not sure where they are coming from. Cardiff Oxford Swansea Preston 1 win three draws? |
no team will go down with 50 points. i reckon 45 points is about the line. top teams have won more games this season so less points shared around by lower teams.
one more win or a couple of draws should see us crawl over the line
i’m really worried for next season though [Post edited 30 Mar 8:32]
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| Points,required for safety on 09:30 - Mar 30 with 527 views | QPROslo |
| Points,required for safety on 17:37 - Mar 29 by joe90 |
We’ve only finished 16th once in last 8 seasons. I4th is probably our average spot.
After today’s result we’re back into a relegation fight. It’s going to be an exciting end to the season… [Post edited 29 Mar 17:51]
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I think we've been in a relegation fight most of the season, and definitely since some on here were proposing we leave out on loan and/or out of contract players to give young players a chance to develop in the remaining meaningless games. | | | |
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