| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 17:08 - Mar 31 with 2055 views | Paddyhoops |
I’d wager you won’t see another Danish player here for a few years.
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| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 17:13 - Mar 31 with 2053 views | Beejnewark |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 16:36 - Mar 31 by Hunterhoop |
Doesn’t say much for our fitness coaches, sorry, “Performance department”, does it? |
It really doesn't. I can't think of any player that's returned from an injury anywhere close to the level they were at before the issue occurred. | | | |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 17:52 - Mar 31 with 1926 views | NorthantsHoop |
Madsen oh god the real reality for me about him was in the FA Cup game at Leicester, watched him through the fog in the pre-match warm up, thought it was the fog but it actually looked like he was hiding from passes in the triangle practising stuff, now that is worrying. |  | | |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 17:55 - Mar 31 with 1911 views | rbee |
I read that Madsen is going on loan to Belgium next season |  | | |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 18:22 - Mar 31 with 1842 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 17:08 - Mar 31 by Paddyhoops |
I’d wager you won’t see another Danish player here for a few years.
Not gone well . |
I liked Mikkel Beck. 20 or so years ago if not more admittedly.
25 in fact. The year our Nicolas was born. | | | |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 18:23 - Mar 31 with 1839 views | simmo |
The worst part for me is that this feels like another step towards Marti not being here next season, and that would be a killer. Not to say he's been perfect dealing with the issues but as the report suggests, he's been asked to cook a michelin star meal with a bag of ingredients that would be laughed out of the ready steady cook studio.
All this means is Richie Rich given further reign to football manager search his way to more stats signings, and bring in a head coach that will accept it. A complete and utter waste of the best manager in over a decade. |  |
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| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 18:28 - Mar 31 with 1831 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 15:26 - Mar 31 by gazza1 |
It was a pretty dreadful performance by the Team, possibly the worst we have played all season........sad how many posters just want to jump on the 'main man's best friend', namely Madsen. Personally, there were probably 10 of them that were very poor indeed but, hey, lets give it to Madsen despite the fact that they all mostly played poorly.
Poor play by posters too, 2/10. [Post edited 31 Mar 15:27]
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He’s a (for us) big money signing so he’s going to get more focus than, say, Morgan who was also very poor but not really a comparable player in terms of expectations. A long injury list and he’s miles off a start and whenever he’s given a chance he might as well not be there. We don’t ask for much from these players and he’s getting nowhere close to that so obviously he’s got less credit than a previously decent player in poor form or a kid/squad player. The guy needs to be seen in the flesh especially away from home to appreciate how truly nothing he is. | | | |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 18:51 - Mar 31 with 1778 views | kensalriser |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 17:08 - Mar 31 by Paddyhoops |
I’d wager you won’t see another Danish player here for a few years.
Not gone well . |
Follow that to its logical conclusion and we'd be limited to players from countries like Panama, Montenegro and Kazakhstan. [Post edited 31 Mar 18:53]
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| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 19:13 - Mar 31 with 1723 views | E15Hoop |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 11:15 - Mar 31 by TK1 |
I'm reading your conversation with some absolute idiotic maniacs on Twitter/X. Have banned myself from Twitter QPR as it's too mad, and your conversation is exactly why. Incredible stuff.
There's the (presumably) kids who love Nourry - and I get that, they want to believe the future is bright, burn down the past, why not, we've all been young but luckily for me Clive Allen was up front - and who seem to think we've a world class academy with "generational talent" playing there who'll be be international footballers soon (based on YouTube goal comps) and reply to anybody despairing of these long losing runs with "LMAO, who cares" type comments because they think the "fanbase" (mate, we're supporters, or fans, not a fanbase unless you're just on social media) are "so weird, man". That's the guy who made out Kevin Gallen was just bitter he wasn't Rayan Kolli, that was a good one.
Then there's the guy who thinks we're on the cusp of a brilliant summer of recruitment, that the finances are actually really good if you look closely, and next season will be incredible because we can get rid of the dead wood and Nourry's team can buy some more good players. That you're an idiot if you're not really optimistic.
This is the bit in Clive's report that really nails it. Whatever people thought of Les (and Ramsey), of some of their failed signings, there was always a sense that they knew what they needed to win games, of the mix required of Geoff Cameron-style dull experience with the kind of young players who might step up, that they knew enough people in football, had experience of dressing rooms, contracts at clubs, that between them and say Holloway or Warburton (even McClaren), they'd sign enough players like Barbet, Freedman, BOS, etc, players who could get the job done. (They only really messed up when Beale had a say too)
Next summer, likely Nourry and Belk will be choosing a new coach and most of a new squad. Each will be received on socials the way Madsen, Dembele, Celar were received last summer, like we'd signed prototype Mpabbe and De Bruyne, that they had the league sown up, "they ain't ready for Nourry": an actual quote after we signed Madsen. It's going to end in tears. Ours.
This is the kind of thing I can't reply to your thread on Twitter. But valiant effort, Dave. [Post edited 31 Mar 11:16]
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TK: It seems like a hundred years ago now that you and I were battling it out over whether an Ainsworth=led QPR would work or not.
As split as we were over that issue, over this one I have to say I'm completely on your side of the fence.
Nourry actually makes loads of references to character traits such as "curiosity" or "energy", but notably "common sense" or "experience" or "grit" don't seem to appear quite as regularly as perhaps they should.
Maybe he needs to be down pitch side more often, listening to what Marti and the team are discussing during a game and putting himself directly in the firing line so that he can understand exactly what a Championship level team actually needs on real proper grass instead of on a laptop screen. | | | |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 19:24 - Mar 31 with 1698 views | mart_Goblin |
As bad as that performance was on Saturday , that match report was as magnificent.
The worse we play , the better Clive’s writing is and the more I laugh.
Something in that isn’t right , but they are mightily enjoyable anyway.
“I said there was the faint whiff of Mykonos on the breeze of this side’s recent phoned in effort against a similarly out of form, injury hit and nervous Middlesbrough side. Here, against the worst Stoke side in 25 years, there was a tanned Greek lad in tight trunks handing out olives.”
Complete gold.
I’m sorry we have to be that turgid to produce such an account. |  | | |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 19:45 - Mar 31 with 1607 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 18:23 - Mar 31 by simmo |
The worst part for me is that this feels like another step towards Marti not being here next season, and that would be a killer. Not to say he's been perfect dealing with the issues but as the report suggests, he's been asked to cook a michelin star meal with a bag of ingredients that would be laughed out of the ready steady cook studio.
All this means is Richie Rich given further reign to football manager search his way to more stats signings, and bring in a head coach that will accept it. A complete and utter waste of the best manager in over a decade. |
I guess I'll just have to keep saying it. He's not cooking with other people's ingredients - he's been part of concocting the whole shebang. As. He. Has. Clearly. Told. Us. He, Nourry, Belk and the board work as a team. As. He. (And. Nourry.) Have. Told. Us.
I have linked at least two or three reliable articles, in one of which Marti pronounced our summer transfer business 'nearly perfect', and that he was 'convinced' we had got to 'a good point' and 'signed some good players'. Still, for some, this idiot narrative persists he's some kind of poor victim of Nourry's fiendish/irrespoinsble data-led deal-making. When he signed his new contract in November, he said explicitly that Nourry had 'been very supportive', while Calm declared that 'we are happy that the club are comfortable with our playing philosophy and our ideas', while Chrstian bullishly pitched in that 'we worked very closely together (over the summer) to improve the squad in the best possible way while respecting our financial restrictions, that would allow us to build the principles of play that they believe in and that match the club’s game model philosophy'. Clearly the words of a malevolent arch-dictator setting the whole agenda - if your approach to reading is perverse/paranoid! Marti's also told us, again and again, how he trusts and believes in the players, and that, in his view, they have done very well to be achieving what they have.
Apparently for some, however, all of this can be put down to MC's flim-flam machine and/or distorted, buried, or ignored.
That leaves you with two options, ladies and gents. Either you, more or less, take Marti, Calm and Nourry at their word, and do the decent/intelligent thing and rip up your black and white thesis that the club is rigged. Or you prosecute the baseless hypothesis that, by implication, he's a liar, mercenary and cynic, masquerading as an equal club partner while instead operating as a kind of pitiful stooge!
By the way, here's what he said of Madsen shortly after the win at Luton:
'Nico is a very good player. It was difficult for him in the beginning, especially after the goal. We struggled with their pressure. I am happy for Nico. Hopefully, the goal will give him more confidence even though he has a big personality. His standards are very high and he was not happy after the game despite scoring. It shows what kind of player he is.'
The obvious implication of that, from what we've seen, is MC's a scarily poor judge of a player - in which case you should be radically revising your 'Marti party' happy-clappery, and, by applying a dash of critical thinking - that's right, that word 'nuance' again - potentially, and rightly, including him in the managerial collective indicted by Clive in his Stoke report as one of those unworthy of reshaping our squad and fortunes in 2025/26.
Of course, if you prefer, don't let any of this mere logic, common sense, evidence, and rationality get in the way of a hysterical story! [Post edited 31 Mar 19:51]
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| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 20:20 - Mar 31 with 1586 views | PunteR |
Another fine report from the main man.
Nice one Norf.
It all feels so inevitable , like the Matrix, like we've been programmed to just do this. lose, win, but mostly lose, change manager. We cant break the cycle.
Sometimes we get glitches in the matrix when Dunne or Cook decides to volley a goal in, but mainly its the same thing, every season. |  |
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| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 20:41 - Mar 31 with 1536 views | simmo |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 19:45 - Mar 31 by stainrods_elbow |
I guess I'll just have to keep saying it. He's not cooking with other people's ingredients - he's been part of concocting the whole shebang. As. He. Has. Clearly. Told. Us. He, Nourry, Belk and the board work as a team. As. He. (And. Nourry.) Have. Told. Us.
I have linked at least two or three reliable articles, in one of which Marti pronounced our summer transfer business 'nearly perfect', and that he was 'convinced' we had got to 'a good point' and 'signed some good players'. Still, for some, this idiot narrative persists he's some kind of poor victim of Nourry's fiendish/irrespoinsble data-led deal-making. When he signed his new contract in November, he said explicitly that Nourry had 'been very supportive', while Calm declared that 'we are happy that the club are comfortable with our playing philosophy and our ideas', while Chrstian bullishly pitched in that 'we worked very closely together (over the summer) to improve the squad in the best possible way while respecting our financial restrictions, that would allow us to build the principles of play that they believe in and that match the club’s game model philosophy'. Clearly the words of a malevolent arch-dictator setting the whole agenda - if your approach to reading is perverse/paranoid! Marti's also told us, again and again, how he trusts and believes in the players, and that, in his view, they have done very well to be achieving what they have.
Apparently for some, however, all of this can be put down to MC's flim-flam machine and/or distorted, buried, or ignored.
That leaves you with two options, ladies and gents. Either you, more or less, take Marti, Calm and Nourry at their word, and do the decent/intelligent thing and rip up your black and white thesis that the club is rigged. Or you prosecute the baseless hypothesis that, by implication, he's a liar, mercenary and cynic, masquerading as an equal club partner while instead operating as a kind of pitiful stooge!
By the way, here's what he said of Madsen shortly after the win at Luton:
'Nico is a very good player. It was difficult for him in the beginning, especially after the goal. We struggled with their pressure. I am happy for Nico. Hopefully, the goal will give him more confidence even though he has a big personality. His standards are very high and he was not happy after the game despite scoring. It shows what kind of player he is.'
The obvious implication of that, from what we've seen, is MC's a scarily poor judge of a player - in which case you should be radically revising your 'Marti party' happy-clappery, and, by applying a dash of critical thinking - that's right, that word 'nuance' again - potentially, and rightly, including him in the managerial collective indicted by Clive in his Stoke report as one of those unworthy of reshaping our squad and fortunes in 2025/26.
Of course, if you prefer, don't let any of this mere logic, common sense, evidence, and rationality get in the way of a hysterical story! [Post edited 31 Mar 19:51]
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| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 20:48 - Mar 31 with 1499 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Is it really surprising we have so many injuries when the squad is crap? Everything this season goes back to the transfers in the summer.
I've gone past caring as nothing will change. Like the players I've checked out. | | | |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 21:07 - Mar 31 with 1458 views | Rsole |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 19:45 - Mar 31 by stainrods_elbow |
I guess I'll just have to keep saying it. He's not cooking with other people's ingredients - he's been part of concocting the whole shebang. As. He. Has. Clearly. Told. Us. He, Nourry, Belk and the board work as a team. As. He. (And. Nourry.) Have. Told. Us.
I have linked at least two or three reliable articles, in one of which Marti pronounced our summer transfer business 'nearly perfect', and that he was 'convinced' we had got to 'a good point' and 'signed some good players'. Still, for some, this idiot narrative persists he's some kind of poor victim of Nourry's fiendish/irrespoinsble data-led deal-making. When he signed his new contract in November, he said explicitly that Nourry had 'been very supportive', while Calm declared that 'we are happy that the club are comfortable with our playing philosophy and our ideas', while Chrstian bullishly pitched in that 'we worked very closely together (over the summer) to improve the squad in the best possible way while respecting our financial restrictions, that would allow us to build the principles of play that they believe in and that match the club’s game model philosophy'. Clearly the words of a malevolent arch-dictator setting the whole agenda - if your approach to reading is perverse/paranoid! Marti's also told us, again and again, how he trusts and believes in the players, and that, in his view, they have done very well to be achieving what they have.
Apparently for some, however, all of this can be put down to MC's flim-flam machine and/or distorted, buried, or ignored.
That leaves you with two options, ladies and gents. Either you, more or less, take Marti, Calm and Nourry at their word, and do the decent/intelligent thing and rip up your black and white thesis that the club is rigged. Or you prosecute the baseless hypothesis that, by implication, he's a liar, mercenary and cynic, masquerading as an equal club partner while instead operating as a kind of pitiful stooge!
By the way, here's what he said of Madsen shortly after the win at Luton:
'Nico is a very good player. It was difficult for him in the beginning, especially after the goal. We struggled with their pressure. I am happy for Nico. Hopefully, the goal will give him more confidence even though he has a big personality. His standards are very high and he was not happy after the game despite scoring. It shows what kind of player he is.'
The obvious implication of that, from what we've seen, is MC's a scarily poor judge of a player - in which case you should be radically revising your 'Marti party' happy-clappery, and, by applying a dash of critical thinking - that's right, that word 'nuance' again - potentially, and rightly, including him in the managerial collective indicted by Clive in his Stoke report as one of those unworthy of reshaping our squad and fortunes in 2025/26.
Of course, if you prefer, don't let any of this mere logic, common sense, evidence, and rationality get in the way of a hysterical story! [Post edited 31 Mar 19:51]
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| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 22:21 - Mar 31 with 1327 views | derbyhoop |
Depressingly accurate report.
And, for once, there wont be much quibbling about the marks. I'm just surprised anybody got more than 5, although Yang did at least make some effort. |  |
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| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 23:27 - Mar 31 with 1229 views | EN_Ranger |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 18:22 - Mar 31 by Watford_Ranger |
I liked Mikkel Beck. 20 or so years ago if not more admittedly.
25 in fact. The year our Nicolas was born. |
The best thing Mikkel Beck will ever do for us is get his client Madsen a new flippin club | | | |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 01:47 - Apr 1 with 1111 views | nix |
Can't argue with any of that, sums it up brilliantly. Except Andersen was even worse than you painted him, from my memory. I agree with the poster who likened him to SWP's efforts 'supporting' Furlong against Bolasie. Disgraceful. This guy's played Champions League football. He's played for Ajax. He's played for Denmark. But I could have looked more arsed playing on Saturday than he did. Of course it might just be that I was focusing on him like you were, Clive, on Madsen.
Probably best to squint out of the corner of our eyes at this lot at the moment.
Most of them aren't worthy of your brilliant prose. |  | | |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 07:53 - Apr 1 with 979 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 23:27 - Mar 31 by EN_Ranger |
The best thing Mikkel Beck will ever do for us is get his client Madsen a new flippin club |
Ooh didn’t know that. Ruined his legacy. | | | |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 08:00 - Apr 1 with 962 views | johnhoop |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 16:04 - Mar 31 by Beejnewark |
He seems to have gone full Johannsen |
I think both Johansen and Charlie Austin declined at a similar rate to Andersen, I.e. decent to completely finished within six months. | | | |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 08:47 - Apr 1 with 885 views | thehat |
I appreciate we have injuries but with the players available and the fact it was Stoke away should the formation and tactics also get some scrutiny. As much as I love Marti should we have considered going to Stoke and parking the bus in a 5,4,1 formation and do a "Preston" on them.
Not saying do it every week and not at home but if ever there was a game to sit in and frustrate the opposition Saturday was it especially with our player availability.
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Symth Dunne Morrison Fox Paal
Edwards Varane Colback Ashby
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That would of been my starting eleven and I'm not saying it with hindsight either.
Just go there and frustrate the home side like some teams do when they come to Loftus Road. | | | |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 09:50 - Apr 1 with 773 views | TheChef |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 08:47 - Apr 1 by thehat |
I appreciate we have injuries but with the players available and the fact it was Stoke away should the formation and tactics also get some scrutiny. As much as I love Marti should we have considered going to Stoke and parking the bus in a 5,4,1 formation and do a "Preston" on them.
Not saying do it every week and not at home but if ever there was a game to sit in and frustrate the opposition Saturday was it especially with our player availability.
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Symth Dunne Morrison Fox Paal
Edwards Varane Colback Ashby
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That would of been my starting eleven and I'm not saying it with hindsight either.
Just go there and frustrate the home side like some teams do when they come to Loftus Road. |
Agreed (although it does appear Morrison is still not fit enough to start a game).
Horses for courses innit. Unfortunately the manager still seems to think we can just baller our way to wins in this league rather than earn the right to play through running and competing physically - as it was and ever shall be...
Will end up being his downfall - although I wouldn't be surprised if he's had enough already. |  |
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| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 10:14 - Apr 1 with 717 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 06:19 - Mar 31 by SimplyNico |
We are back to where we were against Middlesbrough at home. This is dire. And as you say Clive, it comes back to recruitment. |
It mainly comes back to injuries. |  | | |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 10:23 - Apr 1 with 697 views | lassel |
| Injury hit, on the beach and checked out, QPR soundly beaten – Report on 10:14 - Apr 1 by Ned_Kennedys |
It mainly comes back to injuries. |
Was it injuries that cause us to have to play with Dunne & Paal at full back and have a central midfield of Morgan-Colback-Varane that the 3 blind mice could play a triangle through? | | | |
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