| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread 11:28 - May 22 with 238117 views | ModeratorC |
Florian out on loan ?
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| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 23:14 - Aug 1 with 4309 views | DJack |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 10:22 - Aug 1 by union_jack |
I had a lot of hope in Bianchini but it never seemed to click with him. Maybe we are not the right club for him.
I don’t see his move to Portsmouth being a developmental one to come back here a better player. If he doesn’t perform there then of course that will be different. |
This echo's my thoughts. Either way I hope that we can recover some money for him in the future. |  |
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| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 23:58 - Aug 1 with 4163 views | sons_of_omri |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 23:02 - Aug 1 by max936 |
Vip, doesn't have a striker's instinct, anticipation or the awareness to be the answer for us in my opinion it doesn't come natural to him, we need far better than Vip.
Go on Vip prove me wrong. |
Oi you - stick to your legacy gas meters FFS ! | | | |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 07:16 - Aug 2 with 3896 views | jack247 |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 23:14 - Aug 1 by swansjack84 |
Maybe it's wishful thinking. I think there is a player there. But he has a uphill battle if we sign Kone. With Cullen preferred over Vipotnik too, it really needs to be his season. |
Lots of people say they have seen something in Vipotnik, but no one can actually pinpoint what it is.
I’m clinging to the hope that he just had an absolute nightmare of a season and comes back a much better player. Even if we do sign Kone, we still need a capable backup. I see Cullen as more of an attacking option you bring on for a midfielder for the last half hour than a centre forward. | | | |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 07:18 - Aug 2 with 3894 views | sons_of_omri |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 07:16 - Aug 2 by jack247 |
Lots of people say they have seen something in Vipotnik, but no one can actually pinpoint what it is.
I’m clinging to the hope that he just had an absolute nightmare of a season and comes back a much better player. Even if we do sign Kone, we still need a capable backup. I see Cullen as more of an attacking option you bring on for a midfielder for the last half hour than a centre forward. |
He didn’t have a nightmare season by any standards. But you keep on banging that drum………… | | | |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 07:42 - Aug 2 with 3812 views | jack247 |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 07:18 - Aug 2 by sons_of_omri |
He didn’t have a nightmare season by any standards. But you keep on banging that drum………… |
How would you describe it?
If he’s actually a decent striker, that was a nightmare season. If that’s his standard, he’s not good enough. | | | |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 09:48 - Aug 2 with 3515 views | nantywatcher |
In a lifetime of involvement in football at all levels I have never seen a player hide so much from the football as Vip. At any time during a match have a quick look at his positioning and ask yourself what the f is he doing and where he ought to be. And when he is in an attacking position he spends 90% of his time hiding behind the central defefenders. The number of times he got in front of his defefenders you could count on one hand. Still he can kick a ball hard, so keep playing him! | | | |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 10:18 - Aug 2 with 3386 views | max936 |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 23:58 - Aug 1 by sons_of_omri |
Oi you - stick to your legacy gas meters FFS ! |
Shut up ffs |  |
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| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 10:33 - Aug 2 with 3335 views | Whiterockin |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 09:48 - Aug 2 by nantywatcher |
In a lifetime of involvement in football at all levels I have never seen a player hide so much from the football as Vip. At any time during a match have a quick look at his positioning and ask yourself what the f is he doing and where he ought to be. And when he is in an attacking position he spends 90% of his time hiding behind the central defefenders. The number of times he got in front of his defefenders you could count on one hand. Still he can kick a ball hard, so keep playing him! |
As I have said before for a big player he is not physical enough, the opposition defenders have a very easy ride with him. When he closes down he runs up to a defender and stops two yards short and they pass around him. Clatter into them and take the odd booking but let them know they are in a game. They will think twice next time and not dwell on the ball. As others have said his positioning is rubbish, how often does he meet a cross high or low, he just doesn't make runs or take a chance. He doesn't create chances for others in and around the box or offer a lot. He does have a powerful shot that he doesn't use often enough and he does lay the ball off well when it's cleared to him in midfield. He just doesn't offer enough for me. Behind Cullen now and any incoming forward and if he stays he will shortly be behind Wales. That's a lot of money on a 4th choice forward, decisions have to be made. |  | | |
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| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 10:35 - Aug 2 with 3335 views | jack247 |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 09:48 - Aug 2 by nantywatcher |
In a lifetime of involvement in football at all levels I have never seen a player hide so much from the football as Vip. At any time during a match have a quick look at his positioning and ask yourself what the f is he doing and where he ought to be. And when he is in an attacking position he spends 90% of his time hiding behind the central defefenders. The number of times he got in front of his defefenders you could count on one hand. Still he can kick a ball hard, so keep playing him! |
Isn’t it strange how people who don’t rate Vipotnik can articulate exactly why whereas people who do, just don’t respond when you ask them what he does well?
At a push, they blame Matt Grimes. | | | |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 10:37 - Aug 2 with 3319 views | max936 |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 07:42 - Aug 2 by jack247 |
How would you describe it?
If he’s actually a decent striker, that was a nightmare season. If that’s his standard, he’s not good enough. |
He's not for the reason's I've mentioned, he's still young though, but you can't teach a player to be instinctive, he has had his moments with a few decent goals and has a good shot on him, but compare him to Cullen's ability to read situations etc.
Neither Vip or Culls are good enough for a side that want to compete for the top six. IMO | |
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| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 10:42 - Aug 2 with 3264 views | jack247 |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 10:37 - Aug 2 by max936 |
He's not for the reason's I've mentioned, he's still young though, but you can't teach a player to be instinctive, he has had his moments with a few decent goals and has a good shot on him, but compare him to Cullen's ability to read situations etc.
Neither Vip or Culls are good enough for a side that want to compete for the top six. IMO |
I’ve been talking about his anticipation for months. I genuinely don’t know if you can teach it. Physically, he has the attributes to be a good striker.
The point about Cullen reading play is bang on. People scratch their heads as to why chances seem to fall to Cullen but not Vipotnik. It was the same with Routledge. | | | |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 15:30 - Aug 2 with 2782 views | Flashberryjack |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 09:48 - Aug 2 by nantywatcher |
In a lifetime of involvement in football at all levels I have never seen a player hide so much from the football as Vip. At any time during a match have a quick look at his positioning and ask yourself what the f is he doing and where he ought to be. And when he is in an attacking position he spends 90% of his time hiding behind the central defefenders. The number of times he got in front of his defefenders you could count on one hand. Still he can kick a ball hard, so keep playing him! |
He has the uncanny knack of being in the wrong place at the right time, and the right place at the wrong time, a talent that can't be coached into ot out of a strikers abilities.
As for Cullen ? |  |
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| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 18:00 - Aug 2 with 2559 views | jack247 |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 15:30 - Aug 2 by Flashberryjack |
He has the uncanny knack of being in the wrong place at the right time, and the right place at the wrong time, a talent that can't be coached into ot out of a strikers abilities.
As for Cullen ? |
His positioning, timing and reading of play is vastly superior, but he’s never going to be an out and out centre forward.
In a two or playing behind a striker yes, but if we’re going one up front, he’s not the answer. | | | |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 18:26 - Aug 2 with 2472 views | RhonddaSwans |
Anyone got any news on transfers?
This thread has gone off topic somewhat | |
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| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 18:38 - Aug 2 with 2418 views | RhonddaSwans |
End of the press conf
We are looking to bring in a few more .
A few more incoming then .
Did anyone here any thing at the game today?
Stand chatter had to be in full swing.
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| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 18:41 - Aug 2 with 2403 views | swansjack84 |
Maybe I'm reading between the lines with comments on this forum but is it looking like Kone will be going to Leicester or other?. Let's hope we have a good back up option and some movement on defense. | | | |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 19:18 - Aug 2 with 2276 views | wwcigne |
If we are bringing in players , I hope they will be tried and tested at league level and not some Premier League club’s youngsters who have only played u21 football but are completely untried in senior leagues,especially in the championship . Developing youngsters from other teams before giving our own young players like Congreve and Cotterill a chance ,when they have had a bit of lower league experience is just wasteful and doesn’t help us at all | | | |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 20:11 - Aug 2 with 2122 views | KeithHaynes |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 19:18 - Aug 2 by wwcigne |
If we are bringing in players , I hope they will be tried and tested at league level and not some Premier League club’s youngsters who have only played u21 football but are completely untried in senior leagues,especially in the championship . Developing youngsters from other teams before giving our own young players like Congreve and Cotterill a chance ,when they have had a bit of lower league experience is just wasteful and doesn’t help us at all |
That won’t be the Swans tactic, they want to bring in permanent signings that are better than what they have. I don’t doubt we may have a few loans but it isn’t a priority at all mate. The lessons learned from the expense of Nelson Abbey (Olympiacos) sitting on the bench until January then walking away because he’s had enough have been learned.
They already have players sighted for January. |  |
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| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 21:08 - Aug 2 with 1915 views | wwcigne |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 20:11 - Aug 2 by KeithHaynes |
That won’t be the Swans tactic, they want to bring in permanent signings that are better than what they have. I don’t doubt we may have a few loans but it isn’t a priority at all mate. The lessons learned from the expense of Nelson Abbey (Olympiacos) sitting on the bench until January then walking away because he’s had enough have been learned.
They already have players sighted for January. |
I’m glad to hear that , thanks Keith
On a positive note ,Ethan Galbraith looks like a great signing,if the ones that follow have been analysed to the same degree ,we’ll be fine | | | |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 22:26 - Aug 2 with 1715 views | KeithHaynes |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 21:08 - Aug 2 by wwcigne |
I’m glad to hear that , thanks Keith
On a positive note ,Ethan Galbraith looks like a great signing,if the ones that follow have been analysed to the same degree ,we’ll be fine |
From what I’ve seen he looks very good and confident. | |
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| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 22:36 - Aug 2 with 1660 views | RhonddaSwans |
| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 22:26 - Aug 2 by KeithHaynes |
From what I’ve seen he looks very good and confident. |
Kaelan Casey From west ham coming in on a season long loan.
Cb sorted | |
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| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 22:36 - Aug 2 with 1656 views | RhonddaSwans |
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| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 22:40 - Aug 2 with 1626 views | KeithHaynes |
Saw that, it’s hard to keep up 😂 | |
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| Here comes the summer transfer rumour thread on 22:59 - Aug 2 with 1545 views | RhonddaSwans |
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