| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? 23:15 - Aug 12 with 13734 views | HammersmithR |
We keep hearing the word ‘project’. What exactly is the project? Is is simply to play Nourry’s players that his computer has identified. Younger the better? And this is irrespective of how the actual team performs? If this is the case, then the fans will lose patience very quickly. Football is a results business. No one has explained the definition of Nourry’s project. Really struggling to warm to the guy. It’s like he’s using the club for his version of Football Manager. Stephan is clearly being told by above what to do and who should play. |  | | |  |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 12:15 - Aug 15 with 1190 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 12:06 - Aug 15 by BrianMcCarthy |
On a personal note, my distrust of Nourry is not just because of a poor comms strategy, it's because I simply don't believe anything he says.
I hope that changes, simply because the CEO/DOF of our club should be trustworthy.
But he's only going to earn that over time. |
Exactly where I am. |  | | |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 12:19 - Aug 15 with 1171 views | Stainrod |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 11:56 - Aug 15 by Northernr |
Well yeh the answer is in your first paragraph...
"implying (apologies if I am misinterpreting) that these two aspects of the Nourry regime are of equal or similar importance"
No I'm not. If QPR start selling players for £20m, winning games and progressing up the league at last then who cares if he sounds like a bit of a dick at the fan forum?
I'm just saying, in my opinion, this is one of the reasons why a section of the support are not having him - as shown by this thread and its headline.
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Then why put a criticism after every positive point? You are a very good writer. You are making a point and then a counter point. | | | |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 12:22 - Aug 15 with 1147 views | Northernr |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 12:19 - Aug 15 by Stainrod |
Then why put a criticism after every positive point? You are a very good writer. You are making a point and then a counter point. |
Because, as I say, look at the title of this thread. Why are people still thinking like that if there's all these positives? Well, in my opinion, that's why... |  | | |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 12:24 - Aug 15 with 1124 views | simmo |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 12:14 - Aug 15 by Stainrod |
In an ideal world with ideal people I make you right.
But think about the human psychology for a minute.
Nourry is very bright and has got a big job very, very young.
And as is so often the case with people like that he is a curious mixture of arrogant and insecure. Like you I like people to apologise. I'm the kind of guy who apologises to the person who bumps into me at a supermarket. I don't think saying sorry makes you look weak, if anything the opposite.
But that is a realisation which often comes later in life.
We know Nourry isn't the finished article because if he was he would probably be CEO of a Premier League club. But we do know he learns as we see how he has changed transfer policy. So maybe in time he will learn humility and better comms skills.
But again, if you had to choose between a) humility and b) getting the majority of decisions right, which one would you prioritise? Besides, if we are looking for comparisons, I actually found Hoos the more arrogant and quite dismissive, but maybe that's just me... |
Showing accountability and apologising aren't the same thing, stop conflating them. |  |
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| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 12:37 - Aug 15 with 1051 views | Stainrod |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 12:24 - Aug 15 by simmo |
Showing accountability and apologising aren't the same thing, stop conflating them. |
Anyone who saw the fans forum could be in no doubt Nourry is in charge. I've never once heard him say he isn't responsible? Maybe around injuries at that forum there was a lack of accountability but on everything else Nourry seems only too happy to show the buck stops with him? | | | |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 12:40 - Aug 15 with 1038 views | Stainrod |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 12:22 - Aug 15 by Northernr |
Because, as I say, look at the title of this thread. Why are people still thinking like that if there's all these positives? Well, in my opinion, that's why... |
Lot more cynicism about the "project" on this site than on other forums. Maybe that's just coincidence... | | | |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 12:47 - Aug 15 with 994 views | loftupper |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 12:24 - Aug 15 by simmo |
Showing accountability and apologising aren't the same thing, stop conflating them. |
I would imagine he does have to explain his actions good and bad to those he is accountable to, unfortunately this is not us as fans. | | | |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 12:49 - Aug 15 with 987 views | Northernr |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 12:40 - Aug 15 by Stainrod |
Lot more cynicism about the "project" on this site than on other forums. Maybe that's just coincidence... |
Again, as I said in my original post, the way he speaks and communicates plays well to one demographic and not another. I don’t think we’d kid ourselves that we’re swimming in young people on here are we?
I also think there’s a lot of people on here who went through the Paladini years and are therefore very wary, whereas on Twitter that’s probably less the case.
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| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 12:54 - Aug 15 with 949 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Paladini. And Thompson as well.
As we get older, we still give our hearts. But we give them on a string. |  |
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| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 12:57 - Aug 15 with 923 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Well, I'm a CN fan, though I was very critical of the way the team was completely unbalanced last season. But mistakes will be made and no, I don't expect them to admit it, just as I never expect it from the board in my job.
As my comment of calling out the 'old fart brigade' is being used frequently I think it only fair I explain why I used it.
I am part of the old demographic, supported the club for 40 odd years so I'm not some 20yo loving a 'baller' signing either.
Everything changes and you either change and evolve with or you become irrelevant, that's a business basic. QPR was being run poorly. We are now an irrelevance, not just in the wider football world, but in West London that we ruled when I was a kid. We have been dog shyte for years. No one can argue against that.
What I just can't get my head around is that we have a young guy who has come in and ripped it all up and some are coming across as being genuinely upset and angry. He is saying 'this club is shyte, we're changing how we do things.' We've all been moaning for years how rubbish its been!
What is genuinely wrong with that? Because he comes across a bit weird? Doesn't let the manager do interviews with fans? Won't apologise for making a mistake?
The younger demographic doesn't care for the things we do. Do they want another away day, at bloody Preston or go to Old Trafford? Do they care we lost to Plymouth if it meant resting our players, nope, and neither did I.
I like what is happening to our club. Could it go horribly wrong? Yes, but at least we are trying something different, trying to change the narrative. And I think that has scared some older fans and put noses out of joint.
I'll be there Saturday, and we'll probably lose though. | |
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| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 12:59 - Aug 15 with 902 views | Burnleyhoop |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 11:54 - Aug 15 by Northernr |
Again, where have I said they should "beg for forgiveness"? You're putting words in my mouth I haven't said, so yes fck me.
I'm just saying as a coms strategy it can bring more benefits to occasionally say "we got that wrong and learned from it" rather than making out like it was always the intention to sign Celar and Madsen last summer then Poku and Mbengue this summer or that the decision last October to start informing the fans about injuries wasn't a change of tack it was just that previously we didn't have injuries to report. These are obviously untrue, and so people distrust him on other things.
This is what I was talking about in the Plymouth report. This weird entrenchment of views. It's unhealthy.
I've said it perhaps might help if every now and again they were will to admit they made a mistake.
You've come straight in with SO YOU THINK THEY SHOULD APOLOGISE EVERY FIVE MINUTES AND BEG FOR YOUR ADMONISHMENT.
Errr, no.
Oh, I'm not sure we really got that January transfer window right.
SO YOU THINK HE TEMPTS THE JUNIOR R'S BACK TO HIS LAIR AND FEASTS ON THE YOUNG DO YOU?
It is nuts. Absolutely nuts.
Some people have entrenched themselves so deeply into Nourry being bad that he literally cannot do anything right and there's fault to be found in everything. Others have decided he's so wonderful that they're running round like The Simpsons chanting "the leader is good, the leader is great, I love the leader".
We've got to be able to offer legitimate criticism when it's justified, while also giving out credit when it's due.
If you'd told me before that Plymouth game on Tuesday what was going to happen I would have been able to tell you the ten Twitter and LFW accounts that would think it was shrewd, smart, not a problem, part of the plan and anybody who says otherwise is a dinosaur or old fart or mentally ill. Likewise I could tell you the ten accounts that would say it was an insult to the supporters and those that travelled should be refunded.
If we happen to lose 4-0 at Watford tomorrow I can tell you the accounts that will be straight on here saying "early days, always going to take time to settle, injuries, these young players need our support" and the ones that will be burning the place down.
That's not a healthy position to be in. We saw it under Paladini. It's not good for debate, it's not good for this website, it's not good for our support base. |
Fair enough Clive, I personally prefer not to sit in any camp and try to look at the bigger picture.
I agree with pretty much all of your assessment and Stainrods assertions above, but a CEO is never going to stand front and centre and apologise for dropping a howler. The only thing he can do is rectify the mistake and move forward. He looks to be doing just that, although that still remains to be seen, dependant upon which camp you reside in.
Nourry is an odd one. As a 27 year old he appears to be well versed and articulate in boardroom speak, but strangely distant and lacking in the social aspects of the club that our fans expect. I don’t doubt his lack of life experience and background have shaped his profile, but he does, again, appear to be learning from his mistakes. Time will tell.
Tomorrow’s result is largely irrelevant. The bigger picture is more important but we live in a world of the here and now and the responses will reflect that.
I do understand the “accounts” that are literally seething the moment something goes wrong or a mistake is made. We have all had a lot of shit to contend with over the last 10 years and you personally have had to report on it, in detail and with humour, on a weekly basis. Not easy, but always appreciated.
I hope for all our sakes, progress is made and the anger subsides. Life as a QPR fan should be far more enjoyable for all concerned and we can talk about how well we played instead of who is to blame for the ongoing demise of the club we all support. | | | |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 13:00 - Aug 15 with 892 views | nix |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 11:54 - Aug 15 by Northernr |
Again, where have I said they should "beg for forgiveness"? You're putting words in my mouth I haven't said, so yes fck me.
I'm just saying as a coms strategy it can bring more benefits to occasionally say "we got that wrong and learned from it" rather than making out like it was always the intention to sign Celar and Madsen last summer then Poku and Mbengue this summer or that the decision last October to start informing the fans about injuries wasn't a change of tack it was just that previously we didn't have injuries to report. These are obviously untrue, and so people distrust him on other things.
This is what I was talking about in the Plymouth report. This weird entrenchment of views. It's unhealthy.
I've said it perhaps might help if every now and again they were will to admit they made a mistake.
You've come straight in with SO YOU THINK THEY SHOULD APOLOGISE EVERY FIVE MINUTES AND BEG FOR YOUR ADMONISHMENT.
Errr, no.
Oh, I'm not sure we really got that January transfer window right.
SO YOU THINK HE TEMPTS THE JUNIOR R'S BACK TO HIS LAIR AND FEASTS ON THE YOUNG DO YOU?
It is nuts. Absolutely nuts.
Some people have entrenched themselves so deeply into Nourry being bad that he literally cannot do anything right and there's fault to be found in everything. Others have decided he's so wonderful that they're running round like The Simpsons chanting "the leader is good, the leader is great, I love the leader".
We've got to be able to offer legitimate criticism when it's justified, while also giving out credit when it's due.
If you'd told me before that Plymouth game on Tuesday what was going to happen I would have been able to tell you the ten Twitter and LFW accounts that would think it was shrewd, smart, not a problem, part of the plan and anybody who says otherwise is a dinosaur or old fart or mentally ill. Likewise I could tell you the ten accounts that would say it was an insult to the supporters and those that travelled should be refunded.
If we happen to lose 4-0 at Watford tomorrow I can tell you the accounts that will be straight on here saying "early days, always going to take time to settle, injuries, these young players need our support" and the ones that will be burning the place down.
That's not a healthy position to be in. We saw it under Paladini. It's not good for debate, it's not good for this website, it's not good for our support base. |
Others have decided he's so wonderful that they're running round like The Simpsons chanting "the leader is good, the leader is great, I love the leader".
I have probably been as positive on the overall strategy as anyone and more challenging of what I see as skewed claims to support a slew of criticisms of Nourry. But I hope I don't come across as blind to his faults or complete lack of fear of the end result. It's difficlt to redress the balance of so much negativity on every single thrread about both him AND our strategy without pointing out a few positives.
It doesn't mean I don't see the negatives too though I don't give them always the weight other people do, like the comms and the apologies. I can't remember many apologies through the years from higher ups in the club. I'd rather they changed behaviour e.g. listening to needing more physicality rather that offering apologies. The injuries and balance in the squad are definitely issues that are valid criticisms though and it's not all 'hail caesar'. |  | | |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 13:19 - Aug 15 with 787 views | Northernr |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 12:57 - Aug 15 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Well, I'm a CN fan, though I was very critical of the way the team was completely unbalanced last season. But mistakes will be made and no, I don't expect them to admit it, just as I never expect it from the board in my job.
As my comment of calling out the 'old fart brigade' is being used frequently I think it only fair I explain why I used it.
I am part of the old demographic, supported the club for 40 odd years so I'm not some 20yo loving a 'baller' signing either.
Everything changes and you either change and evolve with or you become irrelevant, that's a business basic. QPR was being run poorly. We are now an irrelevance, not just in the wider football world, but in West London that we ruled when I was a kid. We have been dog shyte for years. No one can argue against that.
What I just can't get my head around is that we have a young guy who has come in and ripped it all up and some are coming across as being genuinely upset and angry. He is saying 'this club is shyte, we're changing how we do things.' We've all been moaning for years how rubbish its been!
What is genuinely wrong with that? Because he comes across a bit weird? Doesn't let the manager do interviews with fans? Won't apologise for making a mistake?
The younger demographic doesn't care for the things we do. Do they want another away day, at bloody Preston or go to Old Trafford? Do they care we lost to Plymouth if it meant resting our players, nope, and neither did I.
I like what is happening to our club. Could it go horribly wrong? Yes, but at least we are trying something different, trying to change the narrative. And I think that has scared some older fans and put noses out of joint.
I'll be there Saturday, and we'll probably lose though. |
"Well, I'm a CN fan" This is the thing, we're supposed to be QPR fans. It's not Christian Nourry FC.
Your comment in the week was out of order to a lot of people that travelled down there and weren't happy. | | | |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 13:19 - Aug 15 with 783 views | Burnleyhoop |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 11:41 - Aug 15 by Northolt_Rs |
Fck me. |
You too mate. | | | |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 13:22 - Aug 15 with 765 views | JamesB1979 |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 09:22 - Aug 15 by Northernr |
We were talking post Plymouth about this and I think this thread is quite illustrative of it.
What they're doing is fundamentally right, but the way they talk about it or go about it is often quite wnky.
Simmo said it brilliantly higher up - would you rather we didn't have a plan at all? A really clear plan and sticking to it is what this club has needed for a long time, rather than flip flopping around. Oh we're a development club, but sure Mick you can bring Leon Balogun in.
Nourry is totally right - we only get out of this purgatory by greatly increasing revenue and we only do that with a new stadium (or big LR development) or significant, regular, large player sales. So his approach is fundamentally right. But constantly going around talking about your "project", and sticking a line in every signing piece saying "Christian showed me the project" is quite wnky. And if we go on a bad run of results you'll hear people start signing "we're not a fcking project" as has happened in the past.
Making a signing, fundamentally right. Telling people the signing is "adept at progressing the ball through zones two and three", quite wnky.
Having somebody ensuring joined up thinking through the age group teams so we haven't got an U18 coach playing 4-4-2 long ball football when the U21s and the first team don't play that way - fundamentally right. Calling that person the "head of methodology" - quite wnky.
Giving youngsters a first team chance, taking first teamers out of the firing line during an injury crisis, fundamentally right. Losing a cup game you were winning 2-0 because you want to performatively get some 16 year olds on, when you had other more established development squad players you could have used instead, quite wnky.
As with so much since Nourry took over, it's often a communication issue. Much of what Ben Williams said at the forum was interesting, and made sense. But what have people remembered? The wnky and patronising "sorry your favourite player wasn't available" comment. The rest of the content has been lost. It put people's backs up, and now all the players are injured again knives are out.
It's also why you see this divide between the younger demographic on social media and the older demographic on here. Comments like "progressing through zones two and three" play really well with the U30s, they see it as "elite ball knowledge". The over 40s think "oh shut up will ya".
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They do talk a lot about the “project” that’s for sure. But is it all talk? Surely Poku, Mbengue and Kone joining QPR shows that, whatever they are doing is working because these 3 good young and highly sort after players want to join us. And they are the types of players that fit perfectly into their project.
I don’t believe there is a “Nourry” camp, I can’t speak for others who post defence of the club but for me 1) I like what we’re doing and 2) I hate the personal stuff about Nourry. People on here saying they’d rather QPR lose games so Nourry gets sacked, people looking into Nourry’s family and people on twitter abusing his sister was rumour I heard this week. That’s not right. We’re better than that. Let’s debate the rights and wrongs but not get personal on the guy. | | | |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 13:25 - Aug 15 with 730 views | Bluce_Ree |
Project? PrLOLject.
As Burnleyhoop, said, every project has a start, end and key milestones.
But they also have risks and issues. And on our risk register there's a huge 5x5 risk where there are 23 other teams in our division all running their own projects that all have an objective that involves doing better than us.
And our project board couldn't manage a project if they were loaded and the safety of everyone they loved involved them successfully doing it.
The mistake is thinking this is an ongoing thing. It's not. It's basically Groundhog Day except that it's not a day, it's a year, and nothing changes, it's always shit, and instead of learning to play the piano and be nice to folks, Bill Murray instead gets more jaded and useless every cycle.
The sooner you accept it, the less energy you'll have to devote to it. Just watch the matches, go 'oh well' and then comfort eat your way into heart failure. |  |
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| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 13:25 - Aug 15 with 739 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
I think a lot of clashes of opinion about Nourry happen because people‘s priorities about QPR are different.
I think they are roughly divided into
- Results at all costs
- Decent fan culture (this would be me)
- Keeping things the same
For those that adhere to the first one, I get why he’s popular. He’s a young good looking wealthy guy in a expensive suit. In this hyper commercial world it’s these people that run the place.
All the big clubs have a Nourry.
But beware, becuase they won’t be around forever. Preston away always will. | | | |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 13:30 - Aug 15 with 697 views | JamesB1979 |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 13:25 - Aug 15 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I think a lot of clashes of opinion about Nourry happen because people‘s priorities about QPR are different.
I think they are roughly divided into
- Results at all costs
- Decent fan culture (this would be me)
- Keeping things the same
For those that adhere to the first one, I get why he’s popular. He’s a young good looking wealthy guy in a expensive suit. In this hyper commercial world it’s these people that run the place.
All the big clubs have a Nourry.
But beware, becuase they won’t be around forever. Preston away always will. |
I would say the project / plan is exactly the opposite of the first point. It’s about sustainability and having a football club in the long term. Not ending up like Sheffield Wednesday. That’s why I buy in to what they are doing. 1st team results will suffer. | | | |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 13:38 - Aug 15 with 639 views | Northernr |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 13:22 - Aug 15 by JamesB1979 |
They do talk a lot about the “project” that’s for sure. But is it all talk? Surely Poku, Mbengue and Kone joining QPR shows that, whatever they are doing is working because these 3 good young and highly sort after players want to join us. And they are the types of players that fit perfectly into their project.
I don’t believe there is a “Nourry” camp, I can’t speak for others who post defence of the club but for me 1) I like what we’re doing and 2) I hate the personal stuff about Nourry. People on here saying they’d rather QPR lose games so Nourry gets sacked, people looking into Nourry’s family and people on twitter abusing his sister was rumour I heard this week. That’s not right. We’re better than that. Let’s debate the rights and wrongs but not get personal on the guy. |
Absolutely in agreement on point two, that simply shouldn’t be happening and I’ve called it out and deleted it on the couple of occasions it’s happened on here. | | | |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 13:45 - Aug 15 with 572 views | JamesB1979 |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 13:25 - Aug 15 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I think a lot of clashes of opinion about Nourry happen because people‘s priorities about QPR are different.
I think they are roughly divided into
- Results at all costs
- Decent fan culture (this would be me)
- Keeping things the same
For those that adhere to the first one, I get why he’s popular. He’s a young good looking wealthy guy in a expensive suit. In this hyper commercial world it’s these people that run the place.
All the big clubs have a Nourry.
But beware, becuase they won’t be around forever. Preston away always will. |
“He’s a young good looking wealthy guy in an expensive suit. In this hyper commercial world it’s these people that run the place.”
I have to give you credit for the quality of your condescending insults, slightly hidden as pretend compliments, you give some fans. | | | |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 13:47 - Aug 15 with 559 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 13:45 - Aug 15 by JamesB1979 |
“He’s a young good looking wealthy guy in an expensive suit. In this hyper commercial world it’s these people that run the place.”
I have to give you credit for the quality of your condescending insults, slightly hidden as pretend compliments, you give some fans. |
Sorry if I gave the impression there was a compliment in there. [Post edited 15 Aug 13:47]
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| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 13:48 - Aug 15 with 545 views | JamesB1979 |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 13:47 - Aug 15 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Sorry if I gave the impression there was a compliment in there. [Post edited 15 Aug 13:47]
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You’re just not aware of your own genius. | | | |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 13:51 - Aug 15 with 517 views | lassel |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 12:14 - Aug 15 by Stainrod |
In an ideal world with ideal people I make you right.
But think about the human psychology for a minute.
Nourry is very bright and has got a big job very, very young.
And as is so often the case with people like that he is a curious mixture of arrogant and insecure. Like you I like people to apologise. I'm the kind of guy who apologises to the person who bumps into me at a supermarket. I don't think saying sorry makes you look weak, if anything the opposite.
But that is a realisation which often comes later in life.
We know Nourry isn't the finished article because if he was he would probably be CEO of a Premier League club. But we do know he learns as we see how he has changed transfer policy. So maybe in time he will learn humility and better comms skills.
But again, if you had to choose between a) humility and b) getting the majority of decisions right, which one would you prioritise? Besides, if we are looking for comparisons, I actually found Hoos the more arrogant and quite dismissive, but maybe that's just me... |
Just to pick up on your claim that Nourry is clearly extremely intelligent and would be a PL CEO if he was only a bit more experienced, there is really nothing in his background to support that statement.
After leaving school he set up a e-com marketing consultancy that failed. He then setup as a recruitment consultant which via his dads fabulously well connected black book got him contracts with Retexo (run by another fabulously well connected young private schoolboy) and ultimately a toe in the door at QPR.
The reason he is not a PL CEO is the same reason he was working as a self-employed recruitment consultant before meeting Lee Hoos - no other professional football club would be so utterly insane as to hire a 25 year old recruitment consultant with no football experience to a senior role, let alone an executive role.
None of that should ultimately matter of course, he’s not going anywhere so all that’s important is results on the pitch which as Hunter has said we simply don’t know yet. We know they blew through £9m to finish 16th last season but we won’t know how much FFP headroom they sacrificed to do that until early next year when the accounts come out.
This season in order to justify the extensively discussed downsides - the arrogance, the insecurity, the morale within the grunts around the club, the disdain for communicating with supporters - he needs to produce marked improvement on the pitch, when as North says, if he just gave us some feel good crumbs from the table he would likely have the goodwill to survive another 16th (or let’s be honest, likely lower…..) finishing position.
As it is, he is paying PR companies to place puff pieces calling him ‘the Messi of football boardrooms’ and rewarding his best mate Williams - who utterly took the piss out of the club last season and only came back because Boston sacked him within a year - with a promotion to his official right hand man while he patronises supporters at what was supposed to be a softball supporters forum…. | | | |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 13:54 - Aug 15 with 491 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 12:54 - Aug 15 by BrianMcCarthy |
Paladini. And Thompson as well.
As we get older, we still give our hearts. But we give them on a string. |
The Cork Confucius. | | | |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 13:58 - Aug 15 with 467 views | QPRSam |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 13:00 - Aug 15 by nix |
Others have decided he's so wonderful that they're running round like The Simpsons chanting "the leader is good, the leader is great, I love the leader".
I have probably been as positive on the overall strategy as anyone and more challenging of what I see as skewed claims to support a slew of criticisms of Nourry. But I hope I don't come across as blind to his faults or complete lack of fear of the end result. It's difficlt to redress the balance of so much negativity on every single thrread about both him AND our strategy without pointing out a few positives.
It doesn't mean I don't see the negatives too though I don't give them always the weight other people do, like the comms and the apologies. I can't remember many apologies through the years from higher ups in the club. I'd rather they changed behaviour e.g. listening to needing more physicality rather that offering apologies. The injuries and balance in the squad are definitely issues that are valid criticisms though and it's not all 'hail caesar'. |
Well it was only in page 2 of this thread you were accused of working for the club! I was accused of being a Ben Williams fanboy and "one of those sent by CN" in another because I felt positively post fans forum (whatever that means, I'll definitely be heading to Watford tomorrow looking forward to seeing Ben Williams!)
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