| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? 23:15 - Aug 12 with 5096 views | HammersmithR |
We keep hearing the word ‘project’. What exactly is the project? Is is simply to play Nourry’s players that his computer has identified. Younger the better? And this is irrespective of how the actual team performs? If this is the case, then the fans will lose patience very quickly. Football is a results business. No one has explained the definition of Nourry’s project. Really struggling to warm to the guy. It’s like he’s using the club for his version of Football Manager. Stephan is clearly being told by above what to do and who should play. |  | | |  |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 13:29 - Aug 14 with 463 views | hantssi |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 08:59 - Aug 14 by Northolt_Rs |
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| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 14:00 - Aug 14 with 364 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 20:01 - Aug 13 by ChrisNW6 |
So have we all agreed on....'Be more like Brentford' as the name of the project/plan? |
And Brentford don't care about the cups either, which is ironic considering for the past 4 season people have been saying we should be more like them!
In the past 20 years, Brentford have reached FA Cup 5th round once.
The League Cup QF twice, SF once, all achieved since promotion.
A bit like us in 80s/90s. | |
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| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 14:07 - Aug 14 with 339 views | QPR_Jim |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 12:33 - Aug 14 by nix |
The thing is though, the season after Brentford were spending £5 million on Ivan Toney (67 goals in 128 games and a £40 million transfer fee) we were spending the crown jewels on Andre Gray, Stefan Johanson, Charlie Austin, Lee Wallace and Jeff Hendricks. None had any development potential or resale value. This stuffed us for a couple of FFP seasons as well as not providing upside in that season. Les might've voiced his commitment to youth but he didn't really commit to it as we are now. I think it's disingenuous to suggest there's been no change.
Your other points are all fair. Balance and injuries are big issues. Personally I don't think transparency about all aspects of the club is not always desirable and where it is I don't see it as quite the issue you do but respect your opinion. |
Wasn't that the whole point about Les and Warburton falling out. Manager wanted wise heads to shore up the short term and DoF wanted to stick to the strategy (and play some of our younger players) but the DoF was overruled by the owners?
If Nourry has managed to stop the interference from the owners that usually ended up with an Ainsworth or Mclaren appointment, or even if they've just got fed up and are now leaving it to him, I sense that would be a real change for the clubs strategy. |  | | |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 14:08 - Aug 14 with 337 views | simmo |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 19:12 - Aug 13 by WokingR |
So why didn’t you say that at the start?
That could have saved 2 full pages |
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| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 14:55 - Aug 14 with 234 views | cheeseydane |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 12:53 - Aug 14 by loftus77 |
Don't be so ridiculous. Get with the programme...sorry...project. |
Programme????
I was already confused whether it was a project or a plan.
I need a drink. |  |
| Technology advances, unfortunately humans do not. |
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| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 20:40 - Aug 14 with 95 views | Rsole |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 14:55 - Aug 14 by cheeseydane |
Programme????
I was already confused whether it was a project or a plan.
I need a drink. |
Project ….. Plan ….. Programme ….. Process
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| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 20:52 - Aug 14 with 83 views | Burnleyhoop |
| The ‘project’…please enlighten me? on 09:16 - Aug 14 by Hunterhoop |
It is good to have a plan. Call it a project if you want.
I think most, even those critical of Nourry, agree the “plan” is correct. It’s not dissimilar to the plan voiced by Les (development club, buy low, sell high, become sustainable, data based - Belk was hired years ago by Les, etc). As Dave Mc says, there isn’t anything particularly new about this project/plan.
The whole debate is about HOW it is executed (as Kensal alludes to). That is where many of us have concerns over Nourry. We’d like to see more transparency, more pragmatism, more balance in the execution, and accountability (*Ben Williams). That’s all missing currently. And it doesn’t need to be. Indeed if you want to create unity and momentum across the club or an organisation you would typically over communicate, and strive to make all those things clear. The fact we don’t gets peoples’ spider senses tingling. That a number of first and second hand stories many of us have been told that worry us at the the character of Nourry and Ben Williams.
There is also a small angle that some of us feel by the plan is too extreme in terms of balancing the today with jam tomorrow. Personally, I think creating a winning culture is by far the most effective way to develop players and make them valuable. The more we win this year and next, the more valuable Kone and Poku will be. Same goes for any DS lads who fill in occassionally in a winning team. As I’ve said I’d like the plan to be a little more balanced.
But the concept of buy low, sell high, especially from the lower leagues, has literally been the QPR plan for the last decade (failed because the big signings failed), and all through the late 80s and 90s. Who actually disagrees with it? I felt Nourry did a bad job of it last summer, but looks to be doing an excellent job this summer. We’ll find out in a couple of years though.
But how we execute the overall plan can and should change. Again, few should really disagree with that. |
Les did indeed allude to the strategic plan of development of youth, buy low etc etc. But he and the club kept falling into the trap of allowing successive managers to dictate which players were brought in and the development squad became all but meaningless, with players hanging around for years with absolutely no chance of ever getting near the first team. Project shelved again.
Someone needed to get a grip of both elements of how the club was operating as there is no doubt we were heading into a death spiral.
Nourry has overseen the change required. He has made mistakes and will make many more. His communication leaves a lot to be desired, but both the first team and the development squad have made significant progress from where we were before he came.
As fans we are not privy to everything that goes on behind the scenes and the club is not required to give us daily updates on each and every decision made. What you or I or any fan prefers or likes is largely irrelevant. Opinions are fine, we all have them, but fundamentally we are very much moving in the right direction and anyone who believes otherwise isn’t looking properly. | | | |
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