| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 18:35 - Sep 2 with 4016 views | nick_hammersmith |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 13:46 - Sep 2 by Toast_R |
Now thats hes f*cked off, a bit of truth and explanation from the club wouldn't go a miss.
Someone get Jack Colback on the blower. |
Why do you think Colback has the inside scoop on the details of negotiating Richards early release from his contract? |  | |  |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 19:27 - Sep 2 with 3850 views | Hooping_Mad |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 13:39 - Sep 2 by Northernr |
Good time guy. |
Powder puff girls if memory serves. |  |
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| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 21:50 - Sep 2 with 3587 views | Lblock |
I remain convinced we’ll be reading about “former Queens Park Rangers footballer Taylor Richards” within the next 3 to 5 years.
It won’t be on the back pages, weekend centre pullout or in the good news sections.
He’ll be much nearer the front and cause much rolling of eyes amongst our supporters when he’s described as above.
The maddest thing about the whole debacle is that we couldn’t terminate his Contract.
Football is a mental industry |  |
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| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 22:25 - Sep 2 with 3451 views | numptydumpty |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 21:50 - Sep 2 by Lblock |
I remain convinced we’ll be reading about “former Queens Park Rangers footballer Taylor Richards” within the next 3 to 5 years.
It won’t be on the back pages, weekend centre pullout or in the good news sections.
He’ll be much nearer the front and cause much rolling of eyes amongst our supporters when he’s described as above.
The maddest thing about the whole debacle is that we couldn’t terminate his Contract.
Football is a mental industry |
There are a lot of rules protecting employees now, but they generally bypassed still in a lot of professions, but football being a total money profession, the threats of litigation etc if considered unfair, its probably why its very often impossible to sack a player.
Any other industry you would feel, they would just be marched off the premises and told to not come back. I had this once, when i was very young and its not pleasant.
Footballers can not turn up to work consistently for two or three years and still get paid full salary.
If there were more leeway towards the football club over the player, a lot of players that truly dont try for whatever reason, it would not be possible to carry on, but players are financial assets that could still be sold for dosh, so it continues as it does !!!
Bonkers though, do agree !!! [Post edited 2 Sep 22:30]
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| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 22:36 - Sep 2 with 3398 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 21:50 - Sep 2 by Lblock |
I remain convinced we’ll be reading about “former Queens Park Rangers footballer Taylor Richards” within the next 3 to 5 years.
It won’t be on the back pages, weekend centre pullout or in the good news sections.
He’ll be much nearer the front and cause much rolling of eyes amongst our supporters when he’s described as above.
The maddest thing about the whole debacle is that we couldn’t terminate his Contract.
Football is a mental industry |
We could have terminated his contact, but it would have been expensive. |  | | |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 07:02 - Sep 3 with 3144 views | Gus_iom |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 22:36 - Sep 2 by BazzaInTheLoft |
We could have terminated his contact, but it would have been expensive. |
Well, not only expensive, but also may damage our reputation as an employer in the eyes of other players and especially, their agents, whose relationship with clubs is far more parasitic than symbiotic.
Basically, we'd be shunned. | |
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| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 08:28 - Sep 3 with 2983 views | Burnleyhoop |
Well at least the ‘unavailability” stats should improve. Along with Jake glass Back, pretty much permanently contributing to the KPI that continues to embarrass Williams no matter which way he tries to spin it. | | | |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 09:14 - Sep 3 with 2859 views | BAWHoops |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 07:23 - Sep 2 by Northernr |
The longer it goes on, the more that 22/23 summer with Beale looks more ruinous than the infamous overspend chasing promotion the previous year. |
Lee Hoos in an interview on Open All R's saying they decided to 'keep the band together for another go'.
We had Dickie, Dieng, Chair and Willock who all could've gone for north of £5m and some closer to £10m.
Very QPR to put in a promotion level year long performance in 2021 but forget to time it across an actual football season |  |
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| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 09:20 - Sep 3 with 2813 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 09:14 - Sep 3 by BAWHoops |
Lee Hoos in an interview on Open All R's saying they decided to 'keep the band together for another go'.
We had Dickie, Dieng, Chair and Willock who all could've gone for north of £5m and some closer to £10m.
Very QPR to put in a promotion level year long performance in 2021 but forget to time it across an actual football season |
tbf we did the same with a relegation 'year' too. | | | |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 11:20 - Sep 3 with 2622 views | BrizR |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 22:25 - Sep 2 by numptydumpty |
There are a lot of rules protecting employees now, but they generally bypassed still in a lot of professions, but football being a total money profession, the threats of litigation etc if considered unfair, its probably why its very often impossible to sack a player.
Any other industry you would feel, they would just be marched off the premises and told to not come back. I had this once, when i was very young and its not pleasant.
Footballers can not turn up to work consistently for two or three years and still get paid full salary.
If there were more leeway towards the football club over the player, a lot of players that truly dont try for whatever reason, it would not be possible to carry on, but players are financial assets that could still be sold for dosh, so it continues as it does !!!
Bonkers though, do agree !!! [Post edited 2 Sep 22:30]
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It's just not helpful to think about football (or more generally professional sports) like any other job - the whole thing exists in a weird world of exemptions. No other industry would be allowed anything like the transfer system; employment lawyers would be dancing in the streets if a company anywhere else tried to enact 1% of the restraint of trade that it involves. Footballers are not normal employees, their contract arrangements aren't like what you or I might have at a job, and they're also (relatively) powerful and wealthy individuals who can and do employ people whose only role is representing their interests plus they have a strong union to back them up. All that for a job where the actual duties are stunningly vague - try and turn up for training regularly if you can, be available for selection even if we never pick you, unless you're injured of course in which case we just carry on paying you and hope you get better at some point.
Based purely on things mentioned online Richards has apparently taken the piss more than most, but the club didn't really have a winning scenario here. Terminating the bloke unilaterally probably means you end up spending more money fighting it than it costs to just keep paying him and try and turn things around, and he's got no incentive to agree to a mutual termination that benefits us when he's got 2 or 3 years left to run. Presumably at this point he's got little enough left on his contract that we could get him down to a number that worked and he's thinking he might manage to get paid off by us and then find a deal somewhere else as a free agent, although god knows who'd take him based on the last few years. | | | |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 11:51 - Sep 3 with 2565 views | HantsR |
There must be a joke somewhere about him being on a shoestring budget? |  | | |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 12:10 - Sep 3 with 2514 views | ed_83 |
Interesting that this comes straight after a pre-season when he’s been more involved in the first team than perhaps any other point in his time here. We obviously won’t ever know all the details, but there’s clearly been an effort made to reintegrate him, as has happened with several different incoming managers, and it hasn’t worked.
Whether he’s deeply troubled and deserving of sympathy, a useless waster, or somewhere inbetween, he’s clearly talented and I hope he sorts out whatever’s gone wrong here. I also hope he’s the last person we sign like this, who disappears for years on end and drains money out of the club while barely playing. It’s just really sad all round really, and I’m glad it’s over. | | | |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 12:17 - Sep 3 with 2475 views | daveB |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 09:14 - Sep 3 by BAWHoops |
Lee Hoos in an interview on Open All R's saying they decided to 'keep the band together for another go'.
We had Dickie, Dieng, Chair and Willock who all could've gone for north of £5m and some closer to £10m.
Very QPR to put in a promotion level year long performance in 2021 but forget to time it across an actual football season |
Thats a mistake we can't make again.
Say we have a good season and finish 10th we need to cash in on at least one player who does well and reinvest again rather than keep chasing as we did before |  | | |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 13:32 - Sep 3 with 2324 views | Lblock |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 12:17 - Sep 3 by daveB |
Thats a mistake we can't make again.
Say we have a good season and finish 10th we need to cash in on at least one player who does well and reinvest again rather than keep chasing as we did before |
Yes.
I shall no doubt sit there in my dotage (if I make it) in 20 years time saying:-
"I remember in 2011 when we won the title under King Warnock and then we followed it up in 2026 with a great £10 mill transfer profit that summer after finishing 8th. Great times."
Sad the way the game is now. | |
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| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 13:55 - Sep 3 with 2260 views | numptydumpty |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 13:32 - Sep 3 by Lblock |
Yes.
I shall no doubt sit there in my dotage (if I make it) in 20 years time saying:-
"I remember in 2011 when we won the title under King Warnock and then we followed it up in 2026 with a great £10 mill transfer profit that summer after finishing 8th. Great times."
Sad the way the game is now. |
The overall aim is still to eventually get promotion.
But bit by bit, season by season and be sustainable in the long run.
Yes we went up twice, but one year avoided relegation narrowly and other two prem seasons went down miserably.
Its a long slow process and i do understand the plan, but yes its frustrating too.
Such is football !! | |
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| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 14:22 - Sep 3 with 2185 views | Rsole |
Has anyone checked the garden ? |  |
| Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?
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| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 18:04 - Sep 3 with 1956 views | Gus_iom |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 11:20 - Sep 3 by BrizR |
It's just not helpful to think about football (or more generally professional sports) like any other job - the whole thing exists in a weird world of exemptions. No other industry would be allowed anything like the transfer system; employment lawyers would be dancing in the streets if a company anywhere else tried to enact 1% of the restraint of trade that it involves. Footballers are not normal employees, their contract arrangements aren't like what you or I might have at a job, and they're also (relatively) powerful and wealthy individuals who can and do employ people whose only role is representing their interests plus they have a strong union to back them up. All that for a job where the actual duties are stunningly vague - try and turn up for training regularly if you can, be available for selection even if we never pick you, unless you're injured of course in which case we just carry on paying you and hope you get better at some point.
Based purely on things mentioned online Richards has apparently taken the piss more than most, but the club didn't really have a winning scenario here. Terminating the bloke unilaterally probably means you end up spending more money fighting it than it costs to just keep paying him and try and turn things around, and he's got no incentive to agree to a mutual termination that benefits us when he's got 2 or 3 years left to run. Presumably at this point he's got little enough left on his contract that we could get him down to a number that worked and he's thinking he might manage to get paid off by us and then find a deal somewhere else as a free agent, although god knows who'd take him based on the last few years. |
'Terminating the bloke unilaterally' a couple of years ago would have saved us a wedge and solved the problem, but may have been deemed a bit ott. | |
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| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 19:10 - Sep 3 with 1817 views | mart_Goblin |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 12:10 - Sep 3 by ed_83 |
Interesting that this comes straight after a pre-season when he’s been more involved in the first team than perhaps any other point in his time here. We obviously won’t ever know all the details, but there’s clearly been an effort made to reintegrate him, as has happened with several different incoming managers, and it hasn’t worked.
Whether he’s deeply troubled and deserving of sympathy, a useless waster, or somewhere inbetween, he’s clearly talented and I hope he sorts out whatever’s gone wrong here. I also hope he’s the last person we sign like this, who disappears for years on end and drains money out of the club while barely playing. It’s just really sad all round really, and I’m glad it’s over. |
Good post .
And it’s the fact that know one really knows for sure if he is deeply troubled or a timeless waster that makes me slightly uneasy reading this thread .
I’ll be in a minority of one and I understand the reasons why . I agree with a lot of them …but not really knowing the full story , and only he and the clubs medical staff and bosses will really know , makes me weary of going in two footed.
The tying the laces incident during the game at Rotherham , on the face of it was unacceptable and scandalous .
But take a step back and the red flags are there .
You wouldn’t do that over the park never mind the championship.
Something is clearly wrong .
I’m glad it’s over and he’s not at the club anymore for obvious reasons but I hope he can get himself sorted on a personal level and even if it’s not football, he can do something that makes him content and happy .
Otherwise , I do fear the worst . |  | | |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 13:36 - Sep 4 with 1290 views | robith |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 19:10 - Sep 3 by mart_Goblin |
Good post .
And it’s the fact that know one really knows for sure if he is deeply troubled or a timeless waster that makes me slightly uneasy reading this thread .
I’ll be in a minority of one and I understand the reasons why . I agree with a lot of them …but not really knowing the full story , and only he and the clubs medical staff and bosses will really know , makes me weary of going in two footed.
The tying the laces incident during the game at Rotherham , on the face of it was unacceptable and scandalous .
But take a step back and the red flags are there .
You wouldn’t do that over the park never mind the championship.
Something is clearly wrong .
I’m glad it’s over and he’s not at the club anymore for obvious reasons but I hope he can get himself sorted on a personal level and even if it’s not football, he can do something that makes him content and happy .
Otherwise , I do fear the worst . |
A great post. There's a clearly a lot of fault on Richards' side, but the fact that if it was as bad as some allege, the club didn't terminate his contract early makes me uneasy with some of the fervour aimed at his demise |  | | |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 13:51 - Sep 4 with 1247 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 19:10 - Sep 3 by mart_Goblin |
Good post .
And it’s the fact that know one really knows for sure if he is deeply troubled or a timeless waster that makes me slightly uneasy reading this thread .
I’ll be in a minority of one and I understand the reasons why . I agree with a lot of them …but not really knowing the full story , and only he and the clubs medical staff and bosses will really know , makes me weary of going in two footed.
The tying the laces incident during the game at Rotherham , on the face of it was unacceptable and scandalous .
But take a step back and the red flags are there .
You wouldn’t do that over the park never mind the championship.
Something is clearly wrong .
I’m glad it’s over and he’s not at the club anymore for obvious reasons but I hope he can get himself sorted on a personal level and even if it’s not football, he can do something that makes him content and happy .
Otherwise , I do fear the worst . |
‘And it’s the fact that know one really knows for sure if he is deeply troubled or a timeless waster that makes me slightly uneasy reading this thread’
This. Exactly where I am. | | | |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 13:56 - Sep 4 with 1232 views | Northernr |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 13:36 - Sep 4 by robith |
A great post. There's a clearly a lot of fault on Richards' side, but the fact that if it was as bad as some allege, the club didn't terminate his contract early makes me uneasy with some of the fervour aimed at his demise |
I'm wary as well for all the reasons given, but it's been said by Hunter and others - one reason for not terminating a contract of a player you've paid money for may be to do with wanting to amortise that fee over the length of a contract and not have it all dump onto your FFP calcs at once which, as we know, when Richards first got here we were tight on. |  | | |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 14:11 - Sep 4 with 1159 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 13:56 - Sep 4 by Northernr |
I'm wary as well for all the reasons given, but it's been said by Hunter and others - one reason for not terminating a contract of a player you've paid money for may be to do with wanting to amortise that fee over the length of a contract and not have it all dump onto your FFP calcs at once which, as we know, when Richards first got here we were tight on. |
Isn’t that why we loaned him first? To avoid the fee in that first year. | | | |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 14:14 - Sep 4 with 1136 views | Northernr |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 14:11 - Sep 4 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Isn’t that why we loaned him first? To avoid the fee in that first year. |
Yeh that was to punt the fee into the next set of accounts. Unless I'm totally misunderstanding that fee then amortises over the length of the contract - hence Chelsea keep giving people 10 year deals. | | | |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 14:41 - Sep 4 with 1035 views | robith |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 13:56 - Sep 4 by Northernr |
I'm wary as well for all the reasons given, but it's been said by Hunter and others - one reason for not terminating a contract of a player you've paid money for may be to do with wanting to amortise that fee over the length of a contract and not have it all dump onto your FFP calcs at once which, as we know, when Richards first got here we were tight on. |
yeah fair, and I'm almost certain he doesn't come out of the final telling innocent at all. Just something wrong in the state of Denmark about it all | | | |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 14:43 - Sep 4 with 1014 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Taylor Richards gone…thank god. on 14:14 - Sep 4 by Northernr |
Yeh that was to punt the fee into the next set of accounts. Unless I'm totally misunderstanding that fee then amortises over the length of the contract - hence Chelsea keep giving people 10 year deals. |
Even better is clubs paying transfer fees over a set amount of years, the selling club then sell the debt to a financial institution to get that money in early. Imagine if the buying club gets into financial difficulty or is relegated.
The total owed in deferred transfer payments in the PL is £3b !!! | |
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