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Despite certain folk believing Oli McBurnie would return to the Swansea,City this summer, it was never going to happen. He will almost certainly be there this Saturday in a Hull City shirt.Theres a six game block until the next international break in October.





Adam Idah in a race for fitness after returning from international duty..
Stamenić is yet to be determined, awaiting for disclosures on his injury.

Swansea City: Lawrence Vigouroux; Josh Key, Ben Cabango (captain), Cameron Burgess, Josh Tymon; Malick Yalcouye, Goncalo Franco, Ethan Galbraith; Ronald, Zeidane Inoussa; Zan Vipotnik.

Substitutes: Andy Fisher, Melker Widell, Jisung Eom, Ishe Samuels-Smith, Liam Cullen, Manuel Benson, Kaelan Casey, Adam Idah, Sam Parker.

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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:00 - Sep 13 with 1042 viewsTummer_from_Texas

What a gut punch. Damn...

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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:00 - Sep 13 with 1025 viewsunion_jack

No one took responsibility for loose balls. All at 6s and 7s at times. Lots of work to be done. Let’s not think too much about play offs eh?

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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:02 - Sep 13 with 983 viewsshandyjack

Stopped trying to attack and score after Ronald goal. Only 2 shots on target at home. Sheehans subs were terrible. Not good enough at home

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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:04 - Sep 13 with 945 viewspete

Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:02 - Sep 13 by shandyjack

Stopped trying to attack and score after Ronald goal. Only 2 shots on target at home. Sheehans subs were terrible. Not good enough at home


2 points thrown away wonder if that will hurt later in the year?
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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:04 - Sep 13 with 927 viewsonehunglow

Fragile
It was coming
Our full backs , as defenders, are poor
Hmm

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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:07 - Sep 13 with 897 viewsonehunglow

Fragile
It was coming
Our full backs , as defenders, are poor
Hmm

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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:07 - Sep 13 with 907 viewsFlashberryjack

Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:00 - Sep 13 by union_jack

No one took responsibility for loose balls. All at 6s and 7s at times. Lots of work to be done. Let’s not think too much about play offs eh?


Cowradly seconed half performance.

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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:08 - Sep 13 with 891 viewsFireboy2

Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 16:58 - Sep 13 by Johnw102

Thank goodness for LV. MOM for me. Substitutions seem to loose us momentum.
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Sheehans substitutions cost us 2 pts, he settled for the 2-1 too early, vip should have stayed on for longer.

Hull were poor but definitely deserved the draw as they kept on going for it, whilst we just p!ssed about with the ball.
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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:11 - Sep 13 with 842 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:07 - Sep 13 by Flashberryjack

Cowradly seconed half performance.


People should understand Stanenic is a crucial miss for us
Eon and Cullen weaken any team
Quite what the point is with eom beats he
An utter irrelevance , just like Cullen really
Time to replace Key and rest Tymon as they are dire defenders
Galbraith stands out so much

We have brought in many players , possibly too many when the funds could have been used for higher quality

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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:16 - Sep 13 with 802 viewsswan65split

Last minute goal is hard to take! but when the home keepers your MOM , theres some questions to be asked and work done!

we had a few nice momenets but yet again suppy from wide is rubbish.

if we are honest 2-2 is about right, they had more chances than us...the data will show that!
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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:18 - Sep 13 with 776 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:16 - Sep 13 by swan65split

Last minute goal is hard to take! but when the home keepers your MOM , theres some questions to be asked and work done!

we had a few nice momenets but yet again suppy from wide is rubbish.

if we are honest 2-2 is about right, they had more chances than us...the data will show that!


It’s why I’m
Not a huge Sheehan fan
Two subs cost us and the mindset he is responsible for
We have Hull hope
It was inevitable

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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:32 - Sep 13 with 670 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:16 - Sep 13 by swan65split

Last minute goal is hard to take! but when the home keepers your MOM , theres some questions to be asked and work done!

we had a few nice momenets but yet again suppy from wide is rubbish.

if we are honest 2-2 is about right, they had more chances than us...the data will show that!


Loads of questions really
We should have seen them off
That said, they showed tremendous fight led by McBurnie

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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:33 - Sep 13 with 668 viewsunion_jack

Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:18 - Sep 13 by onehunglow

It’s why I’m
Not a huge Sheehan fan
Two subs cost us and the mindset he is responsible for
We have Hull hope
It was inevitable


We allowed them to get the ball into the box whenever they wanted too, both in the air and on the ground. As 65 d=said above, when your keeper is MoM then there’s lots wrong in front of him.

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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:38 - Sep 13 with 602 viewsunion_jack

And again the footballing Gods turn against us.

While we were conceding at 90+7 that lot up the road equalised at 90+7. This has got to change soon, please🙏

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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:41 - Sep 13 with 577 viewsLandore_Jack

We sat back after we scored and lost control in midfield. The subs made us worse tbh. Very frustrating. The goal was coming. Stanemic is a huge loss.

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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:41 - Sep 13 with 573 viewsDr_Winston

Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:08 - Sep 13 by Fireboy2

Sheehans substitutions cost us 2 pts, he settled for the 2-1 too early, vip should have stayed on for longer.

Hull were poor but definitely deserved the draw as they kept on going for it, whilst we just p!ssed about with the ball.


I'll go along with that.

Vipotnik is playing with confidence and fire at the moment. Hooking him that early was a mistake. Based on what he did after coming on, Idah is a while away from taking the starting spot.

Bringing Cullen on in place of Yalcouye is an inexcusable mistake. Cullen has not played well all season, and arguably all calendar year. Expecting him to be influential in midfield in a game that was turning into a physical battle was a bonkers call. Widell would have been a better option, or even Fulton had he been on the bench.

We were doing ok until then. Controlling the ball but not creating enough. For me we have to find space for someone to play the dedicated AM/#10 role, otherwise the midfield is a bit flat.
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Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:42 - Sep 13 with 569 viewsLandore_Jack

Terrible ref but no excuse. We have ourselves to blame.

#backtojack

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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:49 - Sep 13 with 514 viewsswan65split

Subs of some sort were inevitable....internationals, travelling etc
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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:49 - Sep 13 with 508 viewsonehunglow

If Sheehan wants to shut up shop then EOM and Cullen were the last to come on
Hull flight when given a chance key alerting gifts as does Tymon
Bizarrely the least of our issues are now strikers although why Wales is ignored makes one wonder why he was bought
I thought we’d got over this type of performance

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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:50 - Sep 13 with 507 viewswwcigne

So frustrating…..why do our fullbacks stand so far off attacking wingers, every time a ball was played wide their wingers got it in acres and ran at us ,you can’t give widemen 15 /20 yards of space and time like we did , also we just seem incapable of stopping crosses being played in because we don’t get close enough to players out wide , It was obvious with Mc Burnie’s aerial ability they would be looking to get crosses in and we just seemed to invite them to do it , the space they had on the wing to play the ball in for Mc Burnie’s goal was an example,the cross should have been cut out but our player looked like he left it for Viigaroux ,but , Olly did what he does best ,you could feel the last goal coming because we just can’t let teams have so much space
Having said that every time a Hull player went down they had a free kick ,while the ref , who was poor gave us nothing the late one on Ronald before they scored a perfect example
Although Ronnie did look a tad offside for his goal,we won’t count that one 🙄
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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:55 - Sep 13 with 476 viewsLandore_Jack

Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:50 - Sep 13 by wwcigne

So frustrating…..why do our fullbacks stand so far off attacking wingers, every time a ball was played wide their wingers got it in acres and ran at us ,you can’t give widemen 15 /20 yards of space and time like we did , also we just seem incapable of stopping crosses being played in because we don’t get close enough to players out wide , It was obvious with Mc Burnie’s aerial ability they would be looking to get crosses in and we just seemed to invite them to do it , the space they had on the wing to play the ball in for Mc Burnie’s goal was an example,the cross should have been cut out but our player looked like he left it for Viigaroux ,but , Olly did what he does best ,you could feel the last goal coming because we just can’t let teams have so much space
Having said that every time a Hull player went down they had a free kick ,while the ref , who was poor gave us nothing the late one on Ronald before they scored a perfect example
Although Ronnie did look a tad offside for his goal,we won’t count that one 🙄


Ronald was onside.

#backtojack

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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:57 - Sep 13 with 467 viewswwcigne

Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:41 - Sep 13 by Dr_Winston

I'll go along with that.

Vipotnik is playing with confidence and fire at the moment. Hooking him that early was a mistake. Based on what he did after coming on, Idah is a while away from taking the starting spot.

Bringing Cullen on in place of Yalcouye is an inexcusable mistake. Cullen has not played well all season, and arguably all calendar year. Expecting him to be influential in midfield in a game that was turning into a physical battle was a bonkers call. Widell would have been a better option, or even Fulton had he been on the bench.

We were doing ok until then. Controlling the ball but not creating enough. For me we have to find space for someone to play the dedicated AM/#10 role, otherwise the midfield is a bit flat.
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Agree with all of that , Cullen creates mayhem for us when he comes on so deep ,Widell should have come on instead and Benson instead of Eom ,Vipotnik held the ball up very well today and some of his layoffs were class ,great Centre forward’s goal too.
Just get our fullbacks closer to the wingers so they can’t receive the ball in so much space to get the ball into the box and we’ll make life a lot easier for ourselves
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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 18:00 - Sep 13 with 428 viewssons_of_omri

Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:41 - Sep 13 by Dr_Winston

I'll go along with that.

Vipotnik is playing with confidence and fire at the moment. Hooking him that early was a mistake. Based on what he did after coming on, Idah is a while away from taking the starting spot.

Bringing Cullen on in place of Yalcouye is an inexcusable mistake. Cullen has not played well all season, and arguably all calendar year. Expecting him to be influential in midfield in a game that was turning into a physical battle was a bonkers call. Widell would have been a better option, or even Fulton had he been on the bench.

We were doing ok until then. Controlling the ball but not creating enough. For me we have to find space for someone to play the dedicated AM/#10 role, otherwise the midfield is a bit flat.
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Agreed - terrible subs. I’d stick my neck out and say that taking off Yalcouye just as he was beginning to flourish with all that energy and put Cullen on practically handed the initiative to hull. And Eom has no right to replace Inoussa just as he was beginning to work his full back over . Eom offered NOTHING. You could argue Idah definitely came on early and why not bring Benson on for a tiring Ronald?

Manager cost us two points today.
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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 18:00 - Sep 13 with 424 viewsRichardO

I don't want the goal keeper to be MOM, high balls into the six yard box should be his, yes we have a 6 foot plus giant in Bugress but given the leeway to both teams to push opposition off the ball by thr ref meant we had to deal with the aftermath of challenges, Vigouroux claimed he high ball once from memory and killed their forward momentum flat.
We didn't deal with the long balls and didn't kill them off
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Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 18:01 - Sep 13 with 412 viewsDr_Winston

Swansea City v Hull City : Match day thread on 17:57 - Sep 13 by wwcigne

Agree with all of that , Cullen creates mayhem for us when he comes on so deep ,Widell should have come on instead and Benson instead of Eom ,Vipotnik held the ball up very well today and some of his layoffs were class ,great Centre forward’s goal too.
Just get our fullbacks closer to the wingers so they can’t receive the ball in so much space to get the ball into the box and we’ll make life a lot easier for ourselves


I'm feeling a little sorry for Eom. You can sense the usual thickies sharpening their knives in anticipation of making him scapegoat of the season but for me it comes down to two things.

#1. He's not fast enough to be a winger. Similar problem with Ronald, but he's getting the goals at the minute. For me Eom is a much better option to fill that central midfield attacking role I'd like to see.

#2. Confidence. Same as for Vipotnik, when Eom is feeling it he's easily a top end Championship forward. Last season if he'd jinked into a little bit of space like he did a couple of times today he'd have let fly. Now he seems wary of doing so.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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