| Oxford Utd Reflection 22:21 - Oct 1 with 22230 views | bluenwhite10 |
One of those games where you expect 3 points, but didn’t create enough to deserve 3 points and fair play to Oxford as they did what they had to do very well.
I can’t honestly remember either keeper making a save in the game:
The starting line up lacked a bit of creativity with Hayden and Field in the middle a kind of pairing you would go with in an away game against one of the top teams not in a game you are expected to dominate and win.
I will say we did get into some strong crossing positions but the balls never got past the 1st defender.
A bit disappointed tonight in the fact we lacked that cutting edge …MOM …nobody stood out but will go with Norrington-Davies |  | | |  |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 10:01 - Oct 2 with 1924 views | terryb |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 06:38 - Oct 2 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Biggest load of bollox you've written since yesterday.
Perhaps listen to Phil Parkes discussing players who played when they were injured, taking cortisol injections or hiding injuries. Crippled today. He was lucky yet still has two new knees and a hip.
Fitness levels are miles higher than then as well, meaning any small injury or fatigue can have a huge impact on performance level.
The club has safe guarding and welfare guidelines they have to follow as well.
You only come on here when the team don't play well. Didn't see you post very much after beating Charlton, Wrexham and Stoke. |
Good luck with getting a reply to this as I've pointed it out numerous times but SE refuses to answer! Every team carried out this practice & I personally knew players who were totally f***** by their early 30's.
It may be irrelevant, but the players also didn't endure the pre/post match warm up/down, that must be the equivalent of playing nearly an extra half! You can't cheat in these! |  | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 10:17 - Oct 2 with 1787 views | kernowhoop |
The Championship season is a long, hard slog and form is usually temporary.
But, what if we maintained our form so far until May?
We have picked up 12 points from 8 games. If we keep that up, we finish on 69 points. 69 points last season would have put us in the play-offs.
But, what if we did better than that and maintained our recent 'inconsistent' form (the last five matches have delivered 11 points - an average of 2.2 per game). We would add 38 x 2.2 = 83.6 to the 12 already in the bank, which would give us 95 points.
I think 95 points would give us something rather different to worry about.
Just musing...  | | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 10:23 - Oct 2 with 1766 views | BlackAndGoldRanger |
Kone and Frey shouldn't play together, one or the other.
Field and Hayden shouldn't play together, one or the other.
Dembele seems to have lost some pace.
We were too slow last night, kept putting balls into the box to be headed away rather than try something different.
Generally a poor game of championship dirge. They came for a draw, got it and were delighted.
Really dull evening and hope there's not too many more like that.
Take the point, move on and never speak of it again. | | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 10:46 - Oct 2 with 1662 views | HAYESBOY |
Still a head scratcher for me. I could understand making 5 changes if we were into the season by 20/30 plus games and had a 3 game week, but this early with an Int break after Sat? I bet they have another game behind closed doors lined up. |  |
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| Oxford Utd Reflection on 10:48 - Oct 2 with 1648 views | daveB |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 09:10 - Oct 2 by Beckenhamhoop |
Picking Field and Hayden together was not a selection based on winning a football match rather it was made simply to appease two senior members of the squad who weren’t getting any minutes in the team and hoping everything would work out. |
I think if you go with those 2 then you have to play a number 10 type in behind Kone. Playing Field as a like for like replacement for Madsen and Frey for Burrell doesn't work if you try and play the same way |  | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 10:56 - Oct 2 with 1595 views | thehat |
Whilst frustrating not to get the 3 points sometimes you have to give credit to the opposition. Gary Rowett always gets limited teams well organised and we just couldn't break them down. Lot's of endeavour from our lads and we are still very much better than this time last season so for me we are definitely moving in the right direction.
We also kept a clean sheet. In 50 years of following our beloved club I have seen us lose these types of games countless times and we nearly did the same here in the 95th minute which really would of been a sting in the tail. | | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 11:01 - Oct 2 with 1582 views | francisbowles |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 22:59 - Oct 1 by stainrods_elbow |
Miraculously, the Championship-pipped side of 75/76 somehow got through 42 games + 6 Cup games with, what, a working squad of 15 or 16 players - and when the game was a lot more physically arduous, with one permitted sub, terrible pitches, heavier balls, fewer stoppages, and no girly drinks breaks. Funny that! I'm sure it's nothing to do with fan buy-in to downwardly managed expectations.
In 1976-77, we played 59 games (42 league, 2 FA Cup, 7 League Cup, and 8 UEFA cup), with a squad of 20 players, four of whom played between 1-3 games. And not a hint of 'rotation' in sight!
I rest my case (again)! [Post edited 1 Oct 23:07]
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You're comparing pineapples and cooking apples.
One is sweet and easy to eat the other is bitter but far more adaptable.
If you watch the old games from the 70's on ITV 4, it's a different sport. The pace is totally different, space is much easier to find. The modern game is intense, passing lanes are shut down, players are able to drop back and double up on wingers.
If the 75/76 squad, at the age, in the condition and with squad they then had, were to compete in the current championship, they would be annihilated. They would struggle with the pace, dead on their feet by half time and if they had somehow managed to keep the score down would be heavily defeated by the end.
I mean no disrespect to the 75/76 team. They excelled in their era, albeit only really for one season, were ahead of their time in terms of tactics and passing and are my heroes. | | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 11:08 - Oct 2 with 1559 views | BerkoRanger |
A year or two ago, last night's game would have been a banana skin 0-1 or 1-2 result (we had many of them) so a 0-0 and clean sheet is a positive for the team.
And.....10th in the table. What's not to like. | | | |
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| Oxford Utd Reflection on 11:12 - Oct 2 with 1530 views | Northernr |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 11:08 - Oct 2 by BerkoRanger |
A year or two ago, last night's game would have been a banana skin 0-1 or 1-2 result (we had many of them) so a 0-0 and clean sheet is a positive for the team.
And.....10th in the table. What's not to like. |
Sitting through that last night. |  | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 11:16 - Oct 2 with 1499 views | francisbowles |
As was referred to earlier in this thread, Tuesday and Wednesday this week. Not one team from the twelve fixtures won at home. There were four away wins and three of those were by the odd goal. This is such acting competitive division. Most times games can go either way.
It's important to keep doing what we are but find that extra little bit of creativity. | | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 11:23 - Oct 2 with 1457 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 11:12 - Oct 2 by Northernr |
Sitting through that last night. |
Quite. And it has to be a concern that for all the promise and hope about our new forward options - we mustered one penalty against two of the weaker teams in the division.
Home to Oxford and their keeper made only one routine save.
Very early for pivotal games but now Saturday is interesting. A routine 3-0 defeat there and optimism disappearing again. Get a result, continues to be promising. Just don't know what to make of it all so far, really. [Post edited 2 Oct 11:23]
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| Oxford Utd Reflection on 11:29 - Oct 2 with 1427 views | QPR_Hibs |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 09:37 - Oct 2 by EastR |
Completely get what the manager was trying to do with the changes. They scored 5 goals against Leicester and Bristol – 4 from set pieces and 1 a long ball punt. We tried to stifle that with a line up that was arguably our ‘biggest’ team.
But it meant we played like them and that was a painful watch.
Hayden and Field is a combination for an attritional game plan. Did we play a forward pass through midfield before Madsen appeared on 60 mins?
Lots of huffing and puffing to little effect.
Ongoing irritations - we still have the tendency half a dozen times in the game to p8ss ball about at the back when we should be getting the ball forward more quickly. Nardi’s distribution is not up to it. Please tell Jimmy Dunne that it’s not against the rules to take a throw in forward into their half instead of conceding territory and pressure by constantly going backwards. We never have an ‘out’ from opposition set pieces when we keep everyone wrong side of the 18yd box.
On the plus side a point, which they will be ecstatic with, a clean sheet and an extended run of no defeats. And thanks to Mbengue, and the ref, for keeping to the card stats.
More beer token contributions to tie us over until he’s back from the reset.
Cook MOTM for me, followed by RND. |
"Please tell Jimmy Dunne that it’s not against the rules to take a throw in forward into their half instead of conceding territory and pressure by constantly going backwards."
I agree with this - our throw ins are terrible.
Towards the end of the match last night Oxford had a throw in down near their own penalty area. They threw in forwards up the line and we headed it out for another throw. They did the same thing again and eventually they were up near our goal. |  |
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| Oxford Utd Reflection on 11:36 - Oct 2 with 1393 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 11:12 - Oct 2 by Northernr |
Sitting through that last night. |
I took my aunt along for her first ever QPR game at the ripe old age of 83. She was falling asleep. Difficult to say whether it was the match or old age. |  | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 11:36 - Oct 2 with 1396 views | Northernr |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 11:36 - Oct 2 by Benny_the_Ball |
I took my aunt along for her first ever QPR game at the ripe old age of 83. She was falling asleep. Difficult to say whether it was the match or old age. |
I was nodding a bit second half TBH. | | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 11:39 - Oct 2 with 1366 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 11:36 - Oct 2 by Northernr |
I was nodding a bit second half TBH. |
You weren't alone. Needless to say, my aunt won't be coming back. We, on the other hand, will be back for more punishment. | | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 11:43 - Oct 2 with 1350 views | dm97 |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 11:12 - Oct 2 by Northernr |
Sitting through that last night. |
Without wanting to dredge up the consistency debate - a good team at this level puts them away in second gear. We are not yet a ‘good’ team. We cannot win games in second gear. Is there anything else to say |  | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 11:51 - Oct 2 with 1294 views | daveB |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 11:12 - Oct 2 by Northernr |
Sitting through that last night. |
I recorded the game so thought i'd re watch this morning to see if it was as bad as I thought. I usually fast forward to any incidents rathert than watch the whole 90 mins and think I got through the whole game in 10 mins, was so poor
Best bits were Warnock and Mackie having a chat after the game | | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 11:53 - Oct 2 with 1288 views | jeffranger50 |
The 2nd half team well when subs came on should’ve played from the off, missed Madsen & the bloke has been playing well & should’ve started as our main creator, got to start most games from now | | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 11:59 - Oct 2 with 1261 views | karlski |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 08:33 - Oct 2 by Pdog |
It was the kind of lineup you'd see in pre-season and think: "Well at least it gives some lads a run-out, but this wont work in a real game".
At his level, a central quadrant of Feld, Hayden, Frey & Kone, limited in both guile and pace was always going to struggle to create much. It left us heavily reliant on the wide men, who were completely nullified in that first half. Probably better suited to a low block in the trenches, 'see this one out lads'.
I get why some changes were made, but the personnel just didn’t fit the task until it was too late. If Smyth cuts that ball back to Kone, it’s job done. |
Argh that Smyth cut back opportunity after the most creative pass of the match from Madsen is terrorizing me in quieter moments - that was THE chance.
Agree that's not the most creative quadrant. Still finding out the combos that work in this squad.
Two games we'll look back on and think we should have won. | | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 12:07 - Oct 2 with 1226 views | oldmeadoniansR |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 11:59 - Oct 2 by karlski |
Argh that Smyth cut back opportunity after the most creative pass of the match from Madsen is terrorizing me in quieter moments - that was THE chance.
Agree that's not the most creative quadrant. Still finding out the combos that work in this squad.
Two games we'll look back on and think we should have won. |
That pass reminded me of Glen Hoddle. Vision and execution. Madsen is going to be pivotal to our chance creation this year and we missed him for most of the game. | | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 12:21 - Oct 2 with 1162 views | E15Hoop |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 02:16 - Oct 2 by stainrods_elbow |
What about aspiration - is that a 'schoolboy error' too? |
Yes it is, when these so-called "aspirations" clearly have no basis in objective reality, which yours don't.
You seem to enjoy labouring under the mistaken belief that we are "entitled" to more than we're currently getting, and boring everyone to death with your completely unfounded assertions, when Clive, Kieran Maguire and others have spent a lot of time demonstrating that we are pretty much exactly where we "should" be given our resources.
I would normally at this point advise you to "lighten up" before you do yourself some permanent emotional and psychological damage, but, alas, I fear you are already too far gone in that regard..  | | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 12:23 - Oct 2 with 1150 views | Benny_the_Ball |
Little to reflect upon. The very epitome of a 'Bore Draw'. | | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 12:25 - Oct 2 with 1149 views | CamberleyR |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 12:07 - Oct 2 by oldmeadoniansR |
That pass reminded me of Glen Hoddle. Vision and execution. Madsen is going to be pivotal to our chance creation this year and we missed him for most of the game. |
Dare I say it, it was the sort of pass we were used to seeing from a certain balding midfield maestro once upon a time. |  |
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| Oxford Utd Reflection on 12:34 - Oct 2 with 1103 views | PhilmyRs |
The real test is Saturday. This Manager was brought in, (partly), to improve performance in 3 match game weeks so not against a radical approach. But lose on Saturday, that’s just 2 points from 3 games, and we’d have been better off putting everything into last night and getting 3 points in a very winnable game. Win, and 5 points in a game week, which included 2 away matches, isn’t so shabby. We shall see.
The above said, that team selection was a major reason for the spectacle we all had to witness. Yes Field and Hayden are limited with the ball, but that problem is only amplified when the easy pass out to the full back is going to Jimmy D or RND, 2 other limited players with the ball. The option for them to go into a link man playing off the front man also wasn’t really on for them. Not many have said it, but also not having a central defender that can pass between the lines added to the problem. Morrison has it in his locker to play that pass, Cook did well, but not suited to that style of passing, which again meant players with limited skill were asked to show qualities they don’t have and it looked horrible. Clearly, we looked solid, but you have a teamsheet of players where most are best out of possession, that’s not a shock. | | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 12:38 - Oct 2 with 1087 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 12:34 - Oct 2 by PhilmyRs |
The real test is Saturday. This Manager was brought in, (partly), to improve performance in 3 match game weeks so not against a radical approach. But lose on Saturday, that’s just 2 points from 3 games, and we’d have been better off putting everything into last night and getting 3 points in a very winnable game. Win, and 5 points in a game week, which included 2 away matches, isn’t so shabby. We shall see.
The above said, that team selection was a major reason for the spectacle we all had to witness. Yes Field and Hayden are limited with the ball, but that problem is only amplified when the easy pass out to the full back is going to Jimmy D or RND, 2 other limited players with the ball. The option for them to go into a link man playing off the front man also wasn’t really on for them. Not many have said it, but also not having a central defender that can pass between the lines added to the problem. Morrison has it in his locker to play that pass, Cook did well, but not suited to that style of passing, which again meant players with limited skill were asked to show qualities they don’t have and it looked horrible. Clearly, we looked solid, but you have a teamsheet of players where most are best out of possession, that’s not a shock. |
The trouble is we said that after Saturday. 'Beat Oxford and the point at Sheffield Wednesday is a good one'. | | | |
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