| Oxford Utd Reflection 22:21 - Oct 1 with 22227 views | bluenwhite10 |
One of those games where you expect 3 points, but didn’t create enough to deserve 3 points and fair play to Oxford as they did what they had to do very well.
I can’t honestly remember either keeper making a save in the game:
The starting line up lacked a bit of creativity with Hayden and Field in the middle a kind of pairing you would go with in an away game against one of the top teams not in a game you are expected to dominate and win.
I will say we did get into some strong crossing positions but the balls never got past the 1st defender.
A bit disappointed tonight in the fact we lacked that cutting edge …MOM …nobody stood out but will go with Norrington-Davies |  | | |  |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 06:11 - Oct 2 with 2474 views | ozexile |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 02:05 - Oct 2 by SydneyRs |
I think it would have been better to change the team at Sheff Weds, as that was a game we were pretty likely to get a point from regardless. Then we could have attacked Oxford. |
We really can't get past these 3 X games a week can we. Makes zero sense to play that team in your home game. If you've got a 3 game week and only one of those is at home go all out to win that one. Especially against a team near the bottom. |  | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 06:38 - Oct 2 with 2355 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 22:59 - Oct 1 by stainrods_elbow |
Miraculously, the Championship-pipped side of 75/76 somehow got through 42 games + 6 Cup games with, what, a working squad of 15 or 16 players - and when the game was a lot more physically arduous, with one permitted sub, terrible pitches, heavier balls, fewer stoppages, and no girly drinks breaks. Funny that! I'm sure it's nothing to do with fan buy-in to downwardly managed expectations.
In 1976-77, we played 59 games (42 league, 2 FA Cup, 7 League Cup, and 8 UEFA cup), with a squad of 20 players, four of whom played between 1-3 games. And not a hint of 'rotation' in sight!
I rest my case (again)! [Post edited 1 Oct 23:07]
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Biggest load of bollox you've written since yesterday.
Perhaps listen to Phil Parkes discussing players who played when they were injured, taking cortisol injections or hiding injuries. Crippled today. He was lucky yet still has two new knees and a hip.
Fitness levels are miles higher than then as well, meaning any small injury or fatigue can have a huge impact on performance level.
The club has safe guarding and welfare guidelines they have to follow as well.
You only come on here when the team don't play well. Didn't see you post very much after beating Charlton, Wrexham and Stoke. | |
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| Oxford Utd Reflection on 07:36 - Oct 2 with 2204 views | lassel |
Some people dream about world peace for humanity, or ending world hunger - noble causes for sure.
For me though, the enduring mystery of the world is how Michael Frey can be so catastrophically immobile at only 31?!?
I’d lay my mortgage on our 9 month old daughter beating him over 10 yards ffs.. | | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 07:41 - Oct 2 with 2177 views | WiliiamBlakeWasAnR |
We have struggled in our last two games against sides near the bottom. Both saw how we performed in our three wins, fast transitions etc, and set up very deep, with the hope of scoring from a set piece.
We need to work out ways to break down these sides if we want to progress. These teams have adapted to us, so can we adapt to them? I agree with JS, some poor decision making in the final third. Also, we need to be more productive from set pieces.
I expect the Bristol City game to be different. They won't sit back and that will create space for us.
Yes, it was dull. But I think we've entered the Championship class of 'teams to worry about ', which I guess is a compliment. |  | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 07:43 - Oct 2 with 2166 views | cpgerber |
Obviously not a great game or result, but I understand the thinking with the team selection and rotation. You would think the players who came in would have been keen to impress and highly motivated, but instead they proved rusty. Which highlights why we should perhaps get more minutes into the fringe players.
I wasn't too surprised with the starting line-up, only maybe expected Kolli instead of Frey up front. And since the Mbengue suspension was almost a given, I would have played Cook & Morrison at CB.
Sure, points dropped, but not too worried. We have to have bad games also, so learn from it and move on. |  | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 07:45 - Oct 2 with 2134 views | Northolt_Rs |
Julien got the starting XI all wrong. He should’ve started with out strongest team and changed it up with subs once we were in a winning position. Two points dropped at home to a really poor Oxford side in a pisspoor game is disappointing. Mind you, it could’ve been worse - I thought they’d scored right at the end of the game to nick it - heart in the mouth moment! On the plus side it’s now 5 games unbeaten and a clean sheet. On to Bristol…. COYRs!!!! [Post edited 2 Oct 7:52]
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| Oxford Utd Reflection on 08:04 - Oct 2 with 2060 views | loftus77 |
All good arguments on here IMHO but still the morning-after meh feeling of two points dropped if we want to progress. Repeat the same result Saturday, however, and it's definitely a prize point gained. Funny thing, psychology. [Post edited 2 Oct 8:05]
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| Oxford Utd Reflection on 08:06 - Oct 2 with 2050 views | daveB |
On paper I didn't think the changes were that bad but it was too many and I just don't think Kone and Frey work as a pair up front plus I'm not sure why the wide players were coming inside so much, team had no width at all until Saito and Smyth came on. It was just too many sideways and backwards passes again and combined with a lot of aimless punts foward.
Just a typical QPR when you expect them to win performance, it wasn't terrible and if we nick a goal it goes down as a good nights work but never really looked like scoring
Cook and RND were probably our best players |  | | |
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| Oxford Utd Reflection on 08:20 - Oct 2 with 1999 views | Logman |
I thought the execution was OK. I remember when we played Oxford last year they charged around at 100 mph for an hour and it wasn't until they tired after an hour that we were able to get our noses in front. Well it was pretty much a similar story last night, with us trying to overload on them up front and then bringing on our whippets when they were going to tire.
Credit has to go to Oxford. They defended really well and were not too bad at bringing the ball out and being dangerous on the counter. They were far from the 'piss-poor' which I have read on here. | | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 08:33 - Oct 2 with 1953 views | Pdog |
It was the kind of lineup you'd see in pre-season and think: "Well at least it gives some lads a run-out, but this wont work in a real game".
At his level, a central quadrant of Feld, Hayden, Frey & Kone, limited in both guile and pace was always going to struggle to create much. It left us heavily reliant on the wide men, who were completely nullified in that first half. Probably better suited to a low block in the trenches, 'see this one out lads'.
I get why some changes were made, but the personnel just didn’t fit the task until it was too late. If Smyth cuts that ball back to Kone, it’s job done. |  | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 08:36 - Oct 2 with 1940 views | Rsole |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 07:36 - Oct 2 by lassel |
Some people dream about world peace for humanity, or ending world hunger - noble causes for sure.
For me though, the enduring mystery of the world is how Michael Frey can be so catastrophically immobile at only 31?!?
I’d lay my mortgage on our 9 month old daughter beating him over 10 yards ffs.. |
Cheese - lots of it. |  |
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| Oxford Utd Reflection on 08:46 - Oct 2 with 1902 views | Marshy67 |
"Much of a muchness" sums it up.
Of the last two rounds of fixtures 15 out of 24 have all been drawn.
Doesn't look like any team(s) are going to rum away with this division this season. | | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 08:49 - Oct 2 with 1865 views | enfieldargh |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 06:38 - Oct 2 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Biggest load of bollox you've written since yesterday.
Perhaps listen to Phil Parkes discussing players who played when they were injured, taking cortisol injections or hiding injuries. Crippled today. He was lucky yet still has two new knees and a hip.
Fitness levels are miles higher than then as well, meaning any small injury or fatigue can have a huge impact on performance level.
The club has safe guarding and welfare guidelines they have to follow as well.
You only come on here when the team don't play well. Didn't see you post very much after beating Charlton, Wrexham and Stoke. |
Also take a look at the physique of our 75/76 team, a lot of skinny legs with little leg muscle(dont know th names of leg parts) unlike most of the players today who are tunned up athletes who like it or not need to be kept at an optimum level in order to compete with other teams. So the term overload probably is quite important.
I loved the 70's era and our wonderful 73/77 team but its a different game these days and totally incomparable I feel.
Would love to re visit the 70's football if they had got rid of the back pass to keeper rule and the daft offside decisions where a player standing on the wing picking his nose way from the goal area was deemed offisde. |  |
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| Oxford Utd Reflection on 08:49 - Oct 2 with 1856 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 08:06 - Oct 2 by daveB |
On paper I didn't think the changes were that bad but it was too many and I just don't think Kone and Frey work as a pair up front plus I'm not sure why the wide players were coming inside so much, team had no width at all until Saito and Smyth came on. It was just too many sideways and backwards passes again and combined with a lot of aimless punts foward.
Just a typical QPR when you expect them to win performance, it wasn't terrible and if we nick a goal it goes down as a good nights work but never really looked like scoring
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That's fair Dave. Yet to see Jimmy get back to full form either, bloke next to me reckoned he's still got a niggle and watching him closely he certainly doesn't seem as mobile as last year. He even got beaten to a header by The Other Dembele! Sure it will sort itself out, then I do think the defensive options are looking healthy. Nardi was nervy again yesterday though, which doesn't help. |  | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 08:51 - Oct 2 with 1813 views | GaryBannister86 |
Talking of which, I enjoyed the touches of brotherly love between the Dembeles. A fist bump when the brother was subbed on, and then Siriki clapping off the Kaddy when he was subbed.
None of this Neville ignoring rubbish. | | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 08:56 - Oct 2 with 1770 views | dmm |
Should we see the likes of Madsen, Varane, Saito and Burrell start on Saturday, and we go on to win the game, would we see last night in a new light?
I'm not saying I expect us to beat Brizzle but I do think we'll up our game. We usually do against better teams and, at the moment at least, without much of the ball. |  | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 08:59 - Oct 2 with 1745 views | daveB |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 08:49 - Oct 2 by GaryBannister86 |
That's fair Dave. Yet to see Jimmy get back to full form either, bloke next to me reckoned he's still got a niggle and watching him closely he certainly doesn't seem as mobile as last year. He even got beaten to a header by The Other Dembele! Sure it will sort itself out, then I do think the defensive options are looking healthy. Nardi was nervy again yesterday though, which doesn't help. |
Yeah I didn't think he played well last night but not really helped in that we basicaly took all the pace out of the team so looked very slow and boring again | | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 09:10 - Oct 2 with 1703 views | Beckenhamhoop |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 08:59 - Oct 2 by daveB |
Yeah I didn't think he played well last night but not really helped in that we basicaly took all the pace out of the team so looked very slow and boring again |
Picking Field and Hayden together was not a selection based on winning a football match rather it was made simply to appease two senior members of the squad who weren’t getting any minutes in the team and hoping everything would work out. | | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 09:14 - Oct 2 with 1675 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 09:10 - Oct 2 by Beckenhamhoop |
Picking Field and Hayden together was not a selection based on winning a football match rather it was made simply to appease two senior members of the squad who weren’t getting any minutes in the team and hoping everything would work out. |
It does smack a bit of that, Beckenham, I admit. What gets me about Field is that he's proven to be the sort of player who gets so much better the more he plays. So difficult for him with just the odd game here or there. I don't get those who don't rate him, for me if / when we sell Varane for decent money then he is the reason I am very comfortable with that.
PS - when I got back to Beckenham Junction last night, in amongst the inevitable Arsenal shirts, I did spy an Oxford fan. The game was so dull couldn't even nod my head in appreciation of a fellow proper football fan being there in amongst all the gloryhunters. | | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 09:24 - Oct 2 with 1620 views | NorthantsHoop |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 09:10 - Oct 2 by Beckenhamhoop |
Picking Field and Hayden together was not a selection based on winning a football match rather it was made simply to appease two senior members of the squad who weren’t getting any minutes in the team and hoping everything would work out. |
I sort of felt that as well, we improved once the 2nd half subs were made. Overall thought Field was anonymous for most of the time he was on the pitch. Dembele also not a starter for me, just fails to impose himself, whereas Saito and Smyth are straight at it. Poor game overall as a spectacle, but importantly we didn't lose. |  | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 09:33 - Oct 2 with 1558 views | robith |
Expectations are going to be an interesting thing to manage.
Last night I was surrounded by young lads with broccoli hair cuts who spent the whole first half, no word of a lie, discussing plans for what they were going to do when we won the league. Then spent the whole second half character assassinating our team. Strange what a few wins do. |  | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 09:33 - Oct 2 with 1559 views | dm97 |
Late to party - but last night showed that our squad is still not strong enough to make 6 changes and retain the level. Going to need more sales and reinvestment to get to that point.
Still think the sides we’ve had since the Warbs team would have lost last night and on weekend, so baby steps.
I think we will probably be around where we are (10-14th) for a lot of the season, and content to just not be anxious about the table every week. People can shout “standards” all they want - our standard for the last 4 years is 16-24th so this would be an improvement. |  | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 09:37 - Oct 2 with 1518 views | EastR |
Completely get what the manager was trying to do with the changes. They scored 5 goals against Leicester and Bristol – 4 from set pieces and 1 a long ball punt. We tried to stifle that with a line up that was arguably our ‘biggest’ team.
But it meant we played like them and that was a painful watch.
Hayden and Field is a combination for an attritional game plan. Did we play a forward pass through midfield before Madsen appeared on 60 mins?
Lots of huffing and puffing to little effect.
Ongoing irritations - we still have the tendency half a dozen times in the game to p8ss ball about at the back when we should be getting the ball forward more quickly. Nardi’s distribution is not up to it. Please tell Jimmy Dunne that it’s not against the rules to take a throw in forward into their half instead of conceding territory and pressure by constantly going backwards. We never have an ‘out’ from opposition set pieces when we keep everyone wrong side of the 18yd box.
On the plus side a point, which they will be ecstatic with, a clean sheet and an extended run of no defeats. And thanks to Mbengue, and the ref, for keeping to the card stats.
More beer token contributions to tie us over until he’s back from the reset.
Cook MOTM for me, followed by RND. | |
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| Oxford Utd Reflection on 09:50 - Oct 2 with 1427 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 09:14 - Oct 2 by GaryBannister86 |
It does smack a bit of that, Beckenham, I admit. What gets me about Field is that he's proven to be the sort of player who gets so much better the more he plays. So difficult for him with just the odd game here or there. I don't get those who don't rate him, for me if / when we sell Varane for decent money then he is the reason I am very comfortable with that.
PS - when I got back to Beckenham Junction last night, in amongst the inevitable Arsenal shirts, I did spy an Oxford fan. The game was so dull couldn't even nod my head in appreciation of a fellow proper football fan being there in amongst all the gloryhunters. |
I suppose Arsenal were originally from Woolwich. Must be the reason I saw so many of them swarming south of the river last night! | | | |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 09:56 - Oct 2 with 1389 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Oxford Utd Reflection on 09:50 - Oct 2 by Wegerles_Stairs |
I suppose Arsenal were originally from Woolwich. Must be the reason I saw so many of them swarming south of the river last night! |
Yeah, maybe that's it!
I still marvel that, even at 51, I manage to retain the ultimate disdain for fans of the big clubs. To be fair to this lot they at least go to the games, but I still just inwardly sneer. There's something very funny about getting on the Central line coming back from a 0-0 draw with Oxford at home and enthusiastically dissecting it whilst they are all sitting staring into space having just beaten Real Madrid 8-0 to win the Champions League or whatever it is they did last night. I couldn't give a flying fig. None of them know each other because there is no community, no local aspect, just a bunch of born and bred South Londoners Who Should Be Palace, trudging off home from their soulless fan existence. | | | |
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