| The Madsen rehabilitation thread 17:02 - Apr 12 with 38566 views | queensparker |
Well, I don’t want to get too excited, but fair play to our Danish Pirlo.
I kind of saw the point of him today |  | | |  |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:20 - Apr 23 with 2690 views | TheChef |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 21:16 - Apr 22 by MrSheen |
I thought he started very well, but as the Swansea press got to work and we were stavrved of possession he faded out for long spells. It contributed to our lack of any comparable press. He seemed completely clueless at times where to go when Swansea were in possession...sometimes he stood back in a neutral space to watch what was going to happen, others he followed a team-mate like he felt they knew what they were doing. The comparison with Colback's reading of the game was startling. |
His lack of nous out of possession is just odd. How can it be that a professional footballer, training most days and being coached (in theory), doesn't know what to do when his team doesn't have the ball? |  |
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| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 06:30 - May 4 with 2097 views | Lblock |
Got booked yesterday….. the man’s an animal
Any bids of a half reasonable nature I say take and goodbye
Maybe he’ll find some energy, snappiness and physical attitude over the summer and come back to prove many of us wrong
Doubt it |  |
| Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal |
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| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 06:43 - May 4 with 2058 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 06:30 - May 4 by Lblock |
Got booked yesterday….. the man’s an animal
Any bids of a half reasonable nature I say take and goodbye
Maybe he’ll find some energy, snappiness and physical attitude over the summer and come back to prove many of us wrong
Doubt it |
Oh, come on. The bloke has scored, provided 3 or 4 assists in the previous 5 games, and is clearly improving. He even eludes to the demands of the league and the difficult adjustment, a summer in the gym will help him.
Even when doing well some love to knock them down. |  | | |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 07:05 - May 4 with 2024 views | QPROslo |
Always thought Madsen was a good player and he has proved that these last games of the season. He should be a key player for us next season if he remains injury/other problem free. | | | |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 07:26 - May 4 with 1967 views | Rsole |
God sent him….
On a feckin’ Suzuki ? |  |
| Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?
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| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 07:29 - May 4 with 1964 views | nix |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 06:30 - May 4 by Lblock |
Got booked yesterday….. the man’s an animal
Any bids of a half reasonable nature I say take and goodbye
Maybe he’ll find some energy, snappiness and physical attitude over the summer and come back to prove many of us wrong
Doubt it |
Harsh again. I'm sure you'll think Colback had a great game as people seem to adore Colback. He though won one duel in 62 minutes and made no tackles, blocks, interceptions or clearances. He got no goals, assists, key passes, big chances or made one cross.
Madsen got a goal and created a big chance he made three clearances, one I remember was an important one from the centre of the box and won a duel, he also attempted more than Colback.
I know he could be doing still more but it seems a strange match to call him out on when we wouldn't have won without him. I think he's becoming more physical and certainly more involved. He's got three assists and a goal in the last six matches, admittedly after a terrible start. Surely that's worth another season? |  | | |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 07:39 - May 4 with 1917 views | BrianMcCarthy |
I'd find it very hard to trust Madsen for another season, Nix.
He's definitely playing much better these last five or six games but it's hard to forget the laziness and hiding he produced for most of the season. |  |
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| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 07:47 - May 4 with 1863 views | nix |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 07:39 - May 4 by BrianMcCarthy |
I'd find it very hard to trust Madsen for another season, Nix.
He's definitely playing much better these last five or six games but it's hard to forget the laziness and hiding he produced for most of the season. |
You're always fair Brian. So you might be right. I just wonder if there was something going on with him as Marti hinted there were things happening behind the scenes and that he was pretty ruthless with EDB, Kakay, Dozzell etc but brought Madsen back.
I might be wrong though, I tend to think people can turn things around. Maybe what happens pre-season will give us a clue. | | | |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 07:53 - May 4 with 1826 views | johnhoop |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 07:39 - May 4 by BrianMcCarthy |
I'd find it very hard to trust Madsen for another season, Nix.
He's definitely playing much better these last five or six games but it's hard to forget the laziness and hiding he produced for most of the season. |
Agreed Brian. Only being able to go to home games I’ve seen nothing of this improvement, which all seems to have taken place away from home.I’ll have to trust the word of those who’ve witnessed it but it’s very difficult to forget the numerous performances I’ve witnessed when he’s been like a passenger and largely invisible.
As he’s our player, for whom we’ve paid a lot of money and on a long contract, we have little alternative to hoping that his improvement is maintained and he can function effectively in the Championship next season but I would hope that we’re also looking to strengthen our midfield with someone faster, stronger and more combative in case this doesn’t happen. | | | |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 07:54 - May 4 with 1818 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 07:47 - May 4 by nix |
You're always fair Brian. So you might be right. I just wonder if there was something going on with him as Marti hinted there were things happening behind the scenes and that he was pretty ruthless with EDB, Kakay, Dozzell etc but brought Madsen back.
I might be wrong though, I tend to think people can turn things around. Maybe what happens pre-season will give us a clue. |
I think players can turn around form, can improve execution, can recover technique, or composure. I'm just wary of players who display poor work-rate and/or poor aggression. I think it's very hard for such players to change their mentality in the long-term. They always seem to revert to type again after a while.
But we have to hope, and I hope he can turn it around, naturally. Or I hope he already has.
Apart from anything else, he's probably going to be here one way or the other, so we have to support him. I'm just wary! | |
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| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 07:58 - May 4 with 1778 views | nix |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 07:54 - May 4 by BrianMcCarthy |
I think players can turn around form, can improve execution, can recover technique, or composure. I'm just wary of players who display poor work-rate and/or poor aggression. I think it's very hard for such players to change their mentality in the long-term. They always seem to revert to type again after a while.
But we have to hope, and I hope he can turn it around, naturally. Or I hope he already has.
Apart from anything else, he's probably going to be here one way or the other, so we have to support him. I'm just wary! |
Fair comments as ever. | | | |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 08:27 - May 4 with 1645 views | charlieB |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 06:43 - May 4 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Oh, come on. The bloke has scored, provided 3 or 4 assists in the previous 5 games, and is clearly improving. He even eludes to the demands of the league and the difficult adjustment, a summer in the gym will help him.
Even when doing well some love to knock them down. |
Totally agree. | | | |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 08:35 - May 4 with 1593 views | Hoopstar |
I'm in the hopeful camp. Played more in a 6 role as was said after the game away to a team 4th in the league and we kept a clean sheet. Lots of moments in the game where he was harrying, applying pressure and making tackles.
The other bit was his goal - arriving in the box behind the first wave and finishing calmly. If he can do that semi regularly its been a long time since we had a player that did.
Fingers crossed for him. Can't see the club trying to move him on. |  | | |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 08:41 - May 4 with 1540 views | Rangersw12 |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 06:43 - May 4 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Oh, come on. The bloke has scored, provided 3 or 4 assists in the previous 5 games, and is clearly improving. He even eludes to the demands of the league and the difficult adjustment, a summer in the gym will help him.
Even when doing well some love to knock them down. |
Easy to play well when the sun is out and there is nothing to play for
Where were these performances during the winter when we actually needed them .
He's improved but I would be accepting any half decent bid for him as he just can't be trusted | | | |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 08:46 - May 4 with 1503 views | QPROslo |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 07:29 - May 4 by nix |
Harsh again. I'm sure you'll think Colback had a great game as people seem to adore Colback. He though won one duel in 62 minutes and made no tackles, blocks, interceptions or clearances. He got no goals, assists, key passes, big chances or made one cross.
Madsen got a goal and created a big chance he made three clearances, one I remember was an important one from the centre of the box and won a duel, he also attempted more than Colback.
I know he could be doing still more but it seems a strange match to call him out on when we wouldn't have won without him. I think he's becoming more physical and certainly more involved. He's got three assists and a goal in the last six matches, admittedly after a terrible start. Surely that's worth another season? |
I thought Madsen and Colback did well in that inverted LB position. The stats on Sky back that up in regard to their passing accuracy, and more regarding Madsen. Betsy had good words for both after the game. | | | |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 08:49 - May 4 with 1491 views | 1BobbyHazell |
I feel everyone is right about him.
Looked like he was a no hoper a few months back and has clearly improved his application and work rate to go with the obvious technical ability. But as Brian points out that stuff can easily return to the mean. It is a challenge for the more naturally laid back types to permanently convert to working hard to make themselves available for the ball and the Sam Field School of the Permanently Switched On Defensive Dog.
But not impossible...
Really could go either way next season, can't wait to find out. |  | | |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 08:52 - May 4 with 1448 views | QPROslo |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 08:41 - May 4 by Rangersw12 |
Easy to play well when the sun is out and there is nothing to play for
Where were these performances during the winter when we actually needed them .
He's improved but I would be accepting any half decent bid for him as he just can't be trusted |
We shouldn't sell Madsen now. If we did his technical ability is such that we'd get whatever we paid back for him imo, perhaps more. But as long as he continues his recent form into next season he will be a valuable player for us on the park and quite likely we'll turn a profit on him if we wanted to later on. | | | |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 08:55 - May 4 with 1418 views | GaryBannister86 |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 07:39 - May 4 by BrianMcCarthy |
I'd find it very hard to trust Madsen for another season, Nix.
He's definitely playing much better these last five or six games but it's hard to forget the laziness and hiding he produced for most of the season. |
I agree, Brian. Obviously he is ours as he is on a *censored* year contract, so we need to get behind him, and he definitely has ability. However, a few performances in dead rubbers aren't going to win me over just yet. If he stands up to be counted at Wrexham or Birmingham or Leicester away at our first away game, then I will start to believe. |  | | |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:19 - May 4 with 1293 views | nix |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 08:55 - May 4 by GaryBannister86 |
I agree, Brian. Obviously he is ours as he is on a *censored* year contract, so we need to get behind him, and he definitely has ability. However, a few performances in dead rubbers aren't going to win me over just yet. If he stands up to be counted at Wrexham or Birmingham or Leicester away at our first away game, then I will start to believe. |
Okay I take everyone's points on board.
Just to say though one of the assists was the first goal against Oxford Utd so definitely not a dead rubber at the time. We were only four points above the drop zone before that match with five matches to play after Oxford including Burnley, Sunderland, Bristol City and Swansea away. If we'd lost that one it would have seemed pretty hairy! Especially as we'd not won for six matches and not for seven away from home. That corner kick settled the nerves. | | | |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:29 - May 4 with 1220 views | londonscottish |
It's a weird one. Massively frustrating to watch at all the home games I've been to this season.
Seems to have picked up for some reason lately. A sudden run of assists and a then a great bit of control before his goal yesterday.
Obviously if he carries on like this, great. But will he? Hmmmm..... |  |
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| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:30 - May 4 with 1217 views | GaryBannister86 |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:19 - May 4 by nix |
Okay I take everyone's points on board.
Just to say though one of the assists was the first goal against Oxford Utd so definitely not a dead rubber at the time. We were only four points above the drop zone before that match with five matches to play after Oxford including Burnley, Sunderland, Bristol City and Swansea away. If we'd lost that one it would have seemed pretty hairy! Especially as we'd not won for six matches and not for seven away from home. That corner kick settled the nerves. |
Fair point - his performance at Oxford, or at least his assists, were very important indeed. Needs to happen more than that, though, as I am sure you would agree. | | | |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:58 - May 4 with 1120 views | TK1 |
Increasingly, he reminds me of Mike Fillery - which I know is a bit of a niche comparison, you have to be 45+ to remember him.
But he was another 'number 8' with a great first touch, lovely eye for a pass, tidy with the ball in tight areas, kept things ticking along possession-wise, curly mullet and could finish...but would also drift through long passages of play, appeared to be half as fast as everyone else and you'd often forget he was playing, as would he. If memory serves, he was often in competition with Robbie James for the position - James was essentially the same player but a stone (or two) heavier.
Anyway, we muddled along with Fillery/James in the number 8 shirt for a couple of seasons fairly comfortably and increasingly I feel we'll muddle on with Madsen/Field/A.N.Other in that role for another season, depending on the coach's 'game model'. | | | |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:59 - May 4 with 1108 views | GaryBannister86 |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:58 - May 4 by TK1 |
Increasingly, he reminds me of Mike Fillery - which I know is a bit of a niche comparison, you have to be 45+ to remember him.
But he was another 'number 8' with a great first touch, lovely eye for a pass, tidy with the ball in tight areas, kept things ticking along possession-wise, curly mullet and could finish...but would also drift through long passages of play, appeared to be half as fast as everyone else and you'd often forget he was playing, as would he. If memory serves, he was often in competition with Robbie James for the position - James was essentially the same player but a stone (or two) heavier.
Anyway, we muddled along with Fillery/James in the number 8 shirt for a couple of seasons fairly comfortably and increasingly I feel we'll muddle on with Madsen/Field/A.N.Other in that role for another season, depending on the coach's 'game model'. |
Oh yes, great shout. I was a bit young but from my Dad's rantings he always thought he had ability but was too weak. Maybe I bit like Kevin Brock, although not even sure the ability was there with Brock. | | | |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 10:03 - May 4 with 1075 views | nix |
| The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:30 - May 4 by GaryBannister86 |
Fair point - his performance at Oxford, or at least his assists, were very important indeed. Needs to happen more than that, though, as I am sure you would agree. |
I do agree that he has to replicate recent form, three assists plus the goal across the whole of the season and I understand why everyone is sceptical! | | | |
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