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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 23:27 - Apr 18 by CopenhagenRs
Could be interesting to see him feeding a fast paced striker in front of him. Or Kelman maybe!
Celar. There was a goals reel posted on here, and most of his goals were scored from the type of ball Madsen played Yang today. It's no coincidence that they were both signed as I imagine they would link well. Unfortunately lack of form at the start of the season and then injury has kind of cocked that up. Always next season!
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:17 - Apr 19 with 2452 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 23:49 - Apr 18 by numptydumpty
It's a massive but very very welcome surprise to have seen Mr Madsens form recently sky rocket.
Never been the type, like a few on here, kick him when he's down.
But what contrasting form...
A player that can see a long pass or flick with a cheeky back heel - we have not seen that type of player for many years !!
And a lot on here complaining about his lack of physicality from their own bedrooms, but improvements seen in all aspects of his game.
Well done Nico - good to see...
Aw come on, the comments on here have been fully justified . he has been awful up to the last 3 games . Thats not posters here , the manager has left him out time and again as we went through injury problems. In mitigation he may have had issues off field or just couldnt adapt quickly enough .
Its great that he has found form , hopefully he kicks on from here, but you cant rewrite history..
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:31 - Apr 19 with 2403 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 23:49 - Apr 18 by numptydumpty
It's a massive but very very welcome surprise to have seen Mr Madsens form recently sky rocket.
Never been the type, like a few on here, kick him when he's down.
But what contrasting form...
A player that can see a long pass or flick with a cheeky back heel - we have not seen that type of player for many years !!
And a lot on here complaining about his lack of physicality from their own bedrooms, but improvements seen in all aspects of his game.
Well done Nico - good to see...
Good for you for not ‘kicking him when he’s down’. You’ve been very humble about it and I’m sure your positive vibes have played their part in his three (relatively) good performances this season.
If there’s one thing we must remember about Madsen is that Numpty has never been the type to kick a player when they’re down, unlike a few on here.
Sent from my bedroom.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:52 - Apr 19 with 2275 views
I thought Madsen looked a very good forward passer of the ball in his first few games for us. Don't know what happened with him the last few months, but he's done really well again the last 3 games, showing he has more to his game than just the great passing. Excellent yesterday, and lasted longer, hopefully gaining match fitness. Would have been my MOM if Lucas hadn't hit that last minute 30 yard match winner!
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 11:04 - Apr 19 with 2081 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 00:41 - Apr 19 by HotCurrie
Reminds me of Mike Fillery when we signed him from a small second division club called Chelsea. He seemed to be off the pace and disinterested, and got booed by some fans. He was just adjusting to life at QPR and by the end of the season, he was gliding through the gears and a pleasure to watch. It just took time for him to find his rhythm. He wasn't blessed with great pace or eye-catching energy but he had vision and could find an incisive pass or match-winning assist. The following season he was bossing the midfield (with a little help from Gary Waddock and John Gregory) and I hope Madsen does the same next year.
That's not a bad comparison of the two players.
I hated Fillery at first, but he was later on one of my favourites in the team.
Madsen has had 3 very good games now and looks like he has found a role in the team. Hopefully he will maintain this form, because he does have a very good eye for a pass. If Yang had scored the game might have been a far easier watch.
Some of you are going way over the top here. He's been getting 3/4 out of 10 (some even lower than that!) for most of the season and now he's put in a couple of 6s he's apparently turned the corner.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 14:09 - Apr 19 with 1722 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 11:15 - Apr 19 by 7374Ranger
That's not a bad comparison of the two players.
I hated Fillery at first, but he was later on one of my favourites in the team.
Madsen has had 3 very good games now and looks like he has found a role in the team. Hopefully he will maintain this form, because he does have a very good eye for a pass. If Yang had scored the game might have been a far easier watch.
Did we ever sing the Fillery/celery song?
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 14:22 - Apr 19 with 1692 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 13:39 - Apr 19 by nadera78
Some of you are going way over the top here. He's been getting 3/4 out of 10 (some even lower than that!) for most of the season and now he's put in a couple of 6s he's apparently turned the corner.
Just trying to get some positive vibes from the player.i don't see anything wrong with that mate.
AND WHEN I DREAM , I DREAM ABOUT YOU AND WHEN I SCREAM I SCREAM ABOUT YOU!!!!!
Madsen has been very average for many of the games that he has been selected, do not think many are arguing about that. Some posters have gone well OTT about some of his games & performances.
Last 3 matches he has done a decent job for the Team and shown that he has some talent. Recent, he was good and that will be noted in my book and hopefully by posters on this MB. He does not deserve nothing but praise for playing pretty well but I am sure many posters will want to mention previous matches where he has found life difficult.
I do not know but he, just maybe one of those players that needs time to adjust to England, English Football and the Championship.
Well done Nico, keep it up.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 15:15 - Apr 19 with 1545 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 14:22 - Apr 19 by connell10
Just trying to get some positive vibes from the player.i don't see anything wrong with that mate.
We're desperate for Madsen to come good because of how much he cost and the need for the midfield passing skills he seems to have. He still doesn't do enough physical work and peters out in the second half, but yes, he is improving. But we won't know how much he can improve until next season.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 16:48 - Apr 19 with 1384 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 15:15 - Apr 19 by dmm
We're desperate for Madsen to come good because of how much he cost and the need for the midfield passing skills he seems to have. He still doesn't do enough physical work and peters out in the second half, but yes, he is improving. But we won't know how much he can improve until next season.
To be fair to him two of those second halves have been Oxford where Field got injured and the shape had to change and Preston where he moved out to the left to cover Saito being injured. As he said himself after the Oxford game, everyone knows he's not a winger.
I thought he was done after that FA Cup game in January so I'm glad he's come back and started showing more of what we bought him for. With any luck he can get some more minutes in and have a good end of the season and work on stamina/physicality over the summer to go with the vision and passing ability.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 17:12 - Apr 19 with 1327 views
I really ike him. Quick, clever first time passes putting us in great attacking positions.
He made have had an iffy start in fans eyes, and all he can do is try and improve, and he has done. He's been very effective in the last 3 games. There's not much more he can do than what he's doing at the moment.
Well done Nico.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:55 - Apr 20 with 870 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 17:12 - Apr 19 by W7Ranger
I really ike him. Quick, clever first time passes putting us in great attacking positions.
He made have had an iffy start in fans eyes, and all he can do is try and improve, and he has done. He's been very effective in the last 3 games. There's not much more he can do than what he's doing at the moment.
Well done Nico.
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Played well in 3 games? didn't go yesterday but saw the other 2 and thought he had an acceptable to decent 20 to 25 minutes,
Hope he comes good but with our budget n this division we'll need 7 or 8 workhorses to compensate for his occasional incisive passing.
If he comes good we'll likely see the best of Celars movement so let's hope these two do just need time to adapt and will justify their investment next season.
For now I'm just pleased Morgan stepped into the breach and was key to our crucial mid season form, likewise Dunne for his assists & goals.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 10:02 - Apr 20 with 832 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 00:41 - Apr 19 by HotCurrie
Reminds me of Mike Fillery when we signed him from a small second division club called Chelsea. He seemed to be off the pace and disinterested, and got booed by some fans. He was just adjusting to life at QPR and by the end of the season, he was gliding through the gears and a pleasure to watch. It just took time for him to find his rhythm. He wasn't blessed with great pace or eye-catching energy but he had vision and could find an incisive pass or match-winning assist. The following season he was bossing the midfield (with a little help from Gary Waddock and John Gregory) and I hope Madsen does the same next year.
Like this and I said the same thing. Madsen will always be a luxury player so it's about getting the right blend of players around him.
No doubt he can create opportunities which is very important but we will need to make sure we have the piano carriers around him. Colback, Field, Varane, Morgan etc.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 10:31 - Apr 20 with 700 views
Well a big thing is he's now creating chances. 3, 3, 4 in the last three games, when he's looked good on the ball and passed intelligently. Previously he was a luxury player without offering anything luxurious.
Still a defensive liability which makes it difficult to pick him in the same team as Dembele who also doesn't have a defensive bone in his body.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 10:41 - Apr 20 with 646 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 10:31 - Apr 20 by Northernr
Well a big thing is he's now creating chances. 3, 3, 4 in the last three games, when he's looked good on the ball and passed intelligently. Previously he was a luxury player without offering anything luxurious.
Still a defensive liability which makes it difficult to pick him in the same team as Dembele who also doesn't have a defensive bone in his body.
His prime job in the Team is offensive work....he is doing that pretty well imho.
Defensively, he needs to get better but he is working ok(ish) at shutting players down and getting in defensive positions - much improved.......far better than Kolli, who should have closed the ball down a lot better for their goal.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 10:49 - Apr 20 with 598 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:55 - Apr 20 by ParkRoyalR
Played well in 3 games? didn't go yesterday but saw the other 2 and thought he had an acceptable to decent 20 to 25 minutes,
Hope he comes good but with our budget n this division we'll need 7 or 8 workhorses to compensate for his occasional incisive passing.
If he comes good we'll likely see the best of Celars movement so let's hope these two do just need time to adapt and will justify their investment next season.
For now I'm just pleased Morgan stepped into the breach and was key to our crucial mid season form, likewise Dunne for his assists & goals.
Yesterday was his best game, created some very good chances but not taken.....he was far better than just 20/25 minutes in the other two matches.
You cannot live in this divison with 7.8 workhorses, you need a lot more. They all give the ball away frequently, not just Madsen!!!
The jury is still out on Celar but from what I have seen he has been very limited indeed.
Morgan has done OK in a match or two, at most, gives the ball away far too easily and done very little in other games, hence why is is getting splitters on the bench most weeks.....he has a long way to go before he gets the sort of praise you are giving him from me.
Dunne is massive for us and we should listen very carefully to his agent as to what he wants to stay here.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 10:52 - Apr 20 with 570 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 10:31 - Apr 20 by Northernr
Well a big thing is he's now creating chances. 3, 3, 4 in the last three games, when he's looked good on the ball and passed intelligently. Previously he was a luxury player without offering anything luxurious.
Still a defensive liability which makes it difficult to pick him in the same team as Dembele who also doesn't have a defensive bone in his body.
When the team is on the front foot going forward Madsen looks class and 10 chances created in 3 games is really impressive. Can he still do it when we are up against stronger opposition?
Don't think it is a coincidence that the 2nd half was much better when Dembele had been removed and replaced by Smyth, who works a lot harder off the ball.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 10:54 - Apr 20 with 547 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 10:31 - Apr 20 by Northernr
Well a big thing is he's now creating chances. 3, 3, 4 in the last three games, when he's looked good on the ball and passed intelligently. Previously he was a luxury player without offering anything luxurious.
Still a defensive liability which makes it difficult to pick him in the same team as Dembele who also doesn't have a defensive bone in his body.
Agree. Just like when we started games earlier in the season with Madsen and Andersen and it was a disaster.
His last three games have been positive, and, as you, creating chances. That’s great. One swallow does not make a summer though. Maintain the performance level through the end of the season and start next season at the level he is meant to be at, and then we can reassess.
Note Marti’s comments in the post match interview. Clearly saying he has much more to give and needs to improve further.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 11:00 - Apr 20 with 509 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 10:54 - Apr 20 by Hunterhoop
Agree. Just like when we started games earlier in the season with Madsen and Andersen and it was a disaster.
His last three games have been positive, and, as you, creating chances. That’s great. One swallow does not make a summer though. Maintain the performance level through the end of the season and start next season at the level he is meant to be at, and then we can reassess.
Note Marti’s comments in the post match interview. Clearly saying he has much more to give and needs to improve further.
If you’ve got a player that creates chances like that in a game, that’s enough isn’t it? 2 of his chance creations should have led to 2 goals.
On another note, I thought issue on defensive side with him was Yang. Madsen would press and Yang wouldn’t.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 11:02 - Apr 20 with 502 views
His ability to pick a pass is something we've been missing for a long time. Its what Dozzell was supposed to offer us but couldn't. We have plenty of players that can run with the ball, we've got players that can do the hard yards, but some of his pin point balls over the last three games, especially those dinks over the top of defenders, I don't think anyone else in the squad offers including Ilias.
The problem has always been his seeming unwillingness to be up for giving or receiving a challenge, making him a liability in the Championship, along with struggling with the pace of the Championship, meaning he's under pressure before he's decided what he's going to do with the ball, at which point he struggles.
More recently, his pace of play has significantly improved, giving him just enough time to be effective on the ball. Lets hope he can continue to improve that, and work on the defensive side.
There's definitely a player in there, and if he can build on the promise of the last three games, who knows, we may just have a real player next season.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 11:06 - Apr 20 with 467 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 10:41 - Apr 20 by gazza1
His prime job in the Team is offensive work....he is doing that pretty well imho.
Defensively, he needs to get better but he is working ok(ish) at shutting players down and getting in defensive positions - much improved.......far better than Kolli, who should have closed the ball down a lot better for their goal.
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On Friday, Yang was worst defensively and then Kolli and Dembele. Madsen broke up play a few times and made 1 clearance as last man covering I think? He was getting pissed at players for not pressing or playing a rubbish pass like Yang and Dembele. That was good to see.
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