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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:07 - Apr 13 by GroveR
For the record, Madsen reminds me of Steve Slade - undoubtedly talented but with the competitive aggression of a mouse.
A bit beside the point though. How we can have a dozen or so posts thinking he was OK until he "tired" or "faded" or "ran out of engine" is in any way acceptable baffles me. He's a fùcking professional athlete in a cardiovascular sport. I'm 50, smoked for 20yrs and am at least 2 stone overweight but I'd do that cùnt in a bleep test.
It's been said a million times and we've got a treatment room like a field hospital in the Somme to prove it but if we sleep-walk into next season with a fitness team literally phoning it in, we might as well not bother.
Comparing a sports treatment room to a Somme Field hospital? Sick and pathetic. Look at some photos of the war maimed. Or from Ukraine today. Show some respect for their suffering and sacrifice.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:58 - Apr 13 with 3487 views
Two assists in two games and some incisive passing yesterday. For the goal - he started the move, made a 1-2 with Dembele and put an inch perfect cross in. Loved that. His flattening Williams was interesting - was it off the ball? From where I was it looked it - was something said by Williams? I thought his pressing was generally ok - I think he tries to block the forward pass and force the sideways pass thatn try to win the ball or force a mistake by getting really close. I really hope this is a turning point.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:58 - Apr 13 with 3475 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 08:24 - Apr 13 by gazza1
Yea, look a previous, look at the negatives, talk about 'dross', its the opposition why he did ok......look at his performance yesterday. Pxss poor post.
Mate, calm it down. I have never trashed him before to be fair - but I certainly don’t have a knee jerk reaction to think he’s now the best thing since sliced bread because of a couple of half decent performances
The reality is that he seems to be quite good when he fancies it. When he doesn’t - he’s not great
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:58 - Apr 13 by TeddeRs
Two assists in two games and some incisive passing yesterday. For the goal - he started the move, made a 1-2 with Dembele and put an inch perfect cross in. Loved that. His flattening Williams was interesting - was it off the ball? From where I was it looked it - was something said by Williams? I thought his pressing was generally ok - I think he tries to block the forward pass and force the sideways pass thatn try to win the ball or force a mistake by getting really close. I really hope this is a turning point.
He just ran into him there was no malice and Williams was trying to get him booked
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 10:30 - Apr 13 with 3373 views
I think maybe Madsen was better for Yang being there, and vice versa. Yang wants the ball played into space, where his speed, and speed of thought, makes up for his lack of physicality, Madsen wants to play the ball into space. I suppose it illustrates the importance of signing and playing people with the skill set to complement each other, and also the difficulty of implementing change in a squad that isn't all yours
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:50 - Apr 13 by TeddeRs
Comparing a sports treatment room to a Somme Field hospital? Sick and pathetic. Look at some photos of the war maimed. Or from Ukraine today. Show some respect for their suffering and sacrifice.
Definitely saw some improvements last two matches. Two assists in two matches isn't shabby and let's not forget how many corners we've seen this season hit the first defender.
He's never going to be Roy Keane but he's shown more than EDB and Dozzell . Low bar I know but enough to not write him off. He's clearly been winning more headers/pressing more.
I also think many players take a while to get back to speed after a long time not playing, e.g. Chair and Dembele.
I don't think Marti wrote him off but rather took him out of the firing line like he has with Morgan, either because of poor form or off field stuff we don't know about.
Willing to keep an open mind.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 12:39 - Apr 13 with 3006 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 10:30 - Apr 13 by Northernr
Decent first half in a good team performance, probably his best 45 of the season.
Defensive liability after half time and should have been hooked earlier.
yeah thats how i saw it, could have done better for their goal as well but really impressive on the ball for that first half. For me I'd be looking to sell in the summer still
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 12:53 - Apr 13 with 2972 views
Wow, really? Here are a few- Dunne, Field, Varane, Cook, Smyth, Frey, Fox. I think you'll find that Field and Varane are the most guilty of hiding when our centrebacks are looking for an out ball. Madsen is not innocent, but they are worse. Mercifully 4 of the above mentioned 7 will hopefully be gone in the summer.
We have to agree to disagree, as you're comparing the technical ability of a so-called c£3m creative Midfielder with 3 defenders, a defensive midfielder, a League 1 winger and a 3rd choice C/F.
Even Varane is an unfair comparison given his all-round game but I reckon it will be interesting to compare the sell-on value of Madsen & Varane come their next moves.
I've seen Madsen hiding at Luton (A) & Oxford (A) and Northern mentioned the same at Stoke (A),
Walking around playing the occasionally nice side 15 yard side-footed pass is not what you need in the Championship, otherwise Andre Dozzell would be much sought after.
I've never ever seen Field hide and Varane does'nt hide per se, he just needs to stay focused and in the game for the full 90 minutes and not lose concentration.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 12:58 - Apr 13 with 2953 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 12:39 - Apr 13 by daveB
yeah thats how i saw it, could have done better for their goal as well but really impressive on the ball for that first half. For me I'd be looking to sell in the summer still
Agree he should have been hooked much earlier & agree we should be looking to recover half of our outlay if we can get it and sell in the summer.
The Championship is about horses for courses and its clear he's the wrong horse in this league.
Wish him well but we won't win many games next season playing like the 2nd half yesterday & at Oxford when you're effectively playing with 10 men.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 13:21 - Apr 13 with 2888 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 12:53 - Apr 13 by ParkRoyalR
We have to agree to disagree, as you're comparing the technical ability of a so-called c£3m creative Midfielder with 3 defenders, a defensive midfielder, a League 1 winger and a 3rd choice C/F.
Even Varane is an unfair comparison given his all-round game but I reckon it will be interesting to compare the sell-on value of Madsen & Varane come their next moves.
I've seen Madsen hiding at Luton (A) & Oxford (A) and Northern mentioned the same at Stoke (A),
Walking around playing the occasionally nice side 15 yard side-footed pass is not what you need in the Championship, otherwise Andre Dozzell would be much sought after.
I've never ever seen Field hide and Varane does'nt hide per se, he just needs to stay focused and in the game for the full 90 minutes and not lose concentration.
This is classic Field - doesn't move, waits for the central defender to shape to pass into the space Field should be moving into, defender turns away and looks for another option, Field then makes himself available in the space he should have been in 2 seconds earlier.
Does it all the time as he is not comfortable on the ball as his body shape is completely wrong, all the time. And a sideways pass from Madsen is better than the ball going constantly backwards from Field.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 13:46 - Apr 13 with 2783 views
This is classic Field - doesn't move, waits for the central defender to shape to pass into the space Field should be moving into, defender turns away and looks for another option, Field then makes himself available in the space he should have been in 2 seconds earlier.
Does it all the time as he is not comfortable on the ball as his body shape is completely wrong, all the time. And a sideways pass from Madsen is better than the ball going constantly backwards from Field.
Interesting take, we were so much better when Field was available! Never hides, gives 100%, does all the hard yards and chips in with the occasional goal. We’ll have to agree to disagree but our bad spell coincided with his absence.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 14:13 - Apr 13 with 2689 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 10:55 - Apr 13 by GroveR
Terribly sorry to offend there old boy.
Ah don’t be. Anyone with an ounce of sense knows you weren’t being sick, pathetic , disrespectful or anything else. Just a light hearted exaggeration of our treatment room that wasn’t meant to offend unless they ‘want’ to be offended so they can have a bleat.
Probably the most over the top reaction I’ve seen on here.
Unnecessary
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 14:46 - Apr 13 with 2575 views
This is classic Field - doesn't move, waits for the central defender to shape to pass into the space Field should be moving into, defender turns away and looks for another option, Field then makes himself available in the space he should have been in 2 seconds earlier.
Does it all the time as he is not comfortable on the ball as his body shape is completely wrong, all the time. And a sideways pass from Madsen is better than the ball going constantly backwards from Field.
What was that stat recently Northern quoted about our numbers with & without Field in the team.
Being negative about Field and positive about Madsen is very twitter ish.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 14:53 - Apr 13 with 2534 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:58 - Apr 13 by hoops_legend
Mate, calm it down. I have never trashed him before to be fair - but I certainly don’t have a knee jerk reaction to think he’s now the best thing since sliced bread because of a couple of half decent performances
The reality is that he seems to be quite good when he fancies it. When he doesn’t - he’s not great
Give me a colback, field anyday over him
Calm down, I not over excited just think that many posters need to give the man a break when he plays pretty well over the last two matches, but hey many posters just want to look what he has done previous.....absolutely wrong.
All this stuff about he doesn't work, he doesn't tackle, he doesn't show for the ball, he does press, etc, etc (and comparing him with Field/Varane) is absolute 'tosh' re his performances over the past 2 games (why keep on going on about previous??) and thankfully MC has seen that and played him. He will be selected against PNE as well so all this negativity is poor.
And by the way, for those 'in the know' (ha ha) about the cost £3/4 million transfer fee, it isn't his fault that the Club paid that for him, if they actually did pay that money.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 14:57 - Apr 13 with 2529 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 17:25 - Apr 12 by StreathamRanger
When we had the ball, he was of our better players. When. We didn't he wasn't great. At least we have identified a few positives the last two games. Needs a lot of work on his game off the ball. Let's see how he starts next season.
Elsewhere hopefully with £2m in bank account
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 12:44 - Apr 14 with 1954 views
Pleased for him and as mentioned on another thread from the manager's comments, it sounds he's like he's had some off the pitch issues to work through.
Still feels like he's a bit of a luxury player out of possession, hopefully he can improve that part of his game.
Again, today, especially in that first half, you can certainly see his value going forward -- some delightful passes in behind. He's clearly technically gifted
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 18:23 - Apr 18 with 1601 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 18:19 - Apr 18 by TomMorgz7
Again, today, especially in that first half, you can certainly see his value going forward -- some delightful passes in behind. He's clearly technically gifted
For 45 minutes he looked a level above everyone else technically. He was pulling out flicks, forward passes, he was moving and he was creating. The best he's played for us. Faded again but this is presumably what we were watching when we signed him.
Again, an improvement first half. Still needs to do more, particularly on the physical side of the game, but judging by the last 2 matches the signs are that all is not lost.
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I think he has played better since I purchased his scarf 
