| Nourry on new H&F board 11:19 - May 9 with 30798 views | Rangersw12 |
Surely this must be good news in respect of redeveloping Lotus Road or sourcing a new ground
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| Nourry on new H&F board on 09:32 - May 10 with 2500 views | Northernr |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 09:24 - May 10 by oldmeadoniansR |
That made me smile. Good on the youngsters for making an effort. It also made me wonder about the age demographic of this forum. I'm 53 and imagining this may be about the average. |
53? Hark at one of the site's young firebrands showing off lads  |  | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 09:37 - May 10 with 2468 views | dmm |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 09:19 - May 10 by Northernr |
Well it's also lived experience isn't it? I've lived through the Thompson Out stuff, Chris Wright and admin, and Paladini. Others have the Fulham merger on their slate.
And I think that's what makes a lot of us very wary. If you don't have that experience then why would you be? You thought Les Ferdinand was a bit sht, this guy is new, young, and exciting.
I was on the wrong side of the Paladini thing to start with. I was 20 years old, I'd just taken over this website, he got in touch through a mutual friend and offered me an interview and from there started feeding us transfer gossip about who we were after. Which, to me, at that age, with a new QPR website on my hands, I thought was great. I was able to drop names like Nick Ward on here that nobody had heard and lo and behold two weeks late her turned up. I remember sitting in Paladini's office and he took me through all the players we were signing, got the wage bill out and showed me what everybody was on. I remember at the time people like Finney, and particularly Wombat who became a good friend to this day, getting in my ear telling me to be very, very careful about what was going on, but I couldn't see it. What's not to like?
What then started to happen is they'd ask me to refute certain things that had been said on the message board, or put out a 'defence' of something that was going around that they didn't want to mention on the official website. That made me very uncomfortable.
This came to a head in Sorrento on the pre-season tour when I got a load of player interviews (Lee Cook in a small towel a particular highlight) and dinner at the top table with Paladini, Caliendo etc but they told me that some of the players who'd been left behind (a group that included Evatt, Lomas, Bircham and a couple of others) had been deliberately trying to injure the new players in training. And I posted it. And boy did it blow up. Bircham got wind of it and, quite fcking rightly, was not happy.
And I remember having a conversation with Polish Paul and a few of my dad's mates in Sorrento that night over dinner when they were basically like "Clive, you're being played mate". At which point I basically said to them that transfer rumours, interviews, fine, lovely, but I'm not doing this. A certain other website appeared about 20 minutes later and I pivoted into trying to open people's eyes as to what was actually going on.
I actually ended up doing my university dissertation on the whole thing in the end, culminating in covering the court case. A very strange time in my life.
HASTY EDIT - I'm absolutely not saying that's what's happening now, by the way. Don't call the lawyers. I'm just using it as an example of lived experience versus youthful naivety. An example of why I am perhaps over sensitive and over wary about how the club communicates with its fans. When you start seeing multiple anonymous accounts registered by one or two people on here, all parroting the exact same lines and talking points, "just a fan who hears a few things", it just triggers me a little bit because that is the sort of thing that was going on back then.
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That's some story, Clive, and it's very honest of you to share it. I kind of knew some of it but not as a complete narrative. There's nothing that beats the school of real experience. |  | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 09:38 - May 10 with 2465 views | SydneyRs |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 09:19 - May 10 by Northernr |
Well it's also lived experience isn't it? I've lived through the Thompson Out stuff, Chris Wright and admin, and Paladini. Others have the Fulham merger on their slate.
And I think that's what makes a lot of us very wary. If you don't have that experience then why would you be? You thought Les Ferdinand was a bit sht, this guy is new, young, and exciting.
I was on the wrong side of the Paladini thing to start with. I was 20 years old, I'd just taken over this website, he got in touch through a mutual friend and offered me an interview and from there started feeding us transfer gossip about who we were after. Which, to me, at that age, with a new QPR website on my hands, I thought was great. I was able to drop names like Nick Ward on here that nobody had heard and lo and behold two weeks late her turned up. I remember sitting in Paladini's office and he took me through all the players we were signing, got the wage bill out and showed me what everybody was on. I remember at the time people like Finney, and particularly Wombat who became a good friend to this day, getting in my ear telling me to be very, very careful about what was going on, but I couldn't see it. What's not to like?
What then started to happen is they'd ask me to refute certain things that had been said on the message board, or put out a 'defence' of something that was going around that they didn't want to mention on the official website. That made me very uncomfortable.
This came to a head in Sorrento on the pre-season tour when I got a load of player interviews (Lee Cook in a small towel a particular highlight) and dinner at the top table with Paladini, Caliendo etc but they told me that some of the players who'd been left behind (a group that included Evatt, Lomas, Bircham and a couple of others) had been deliberately trying to injure the new players in training. And I posted it. And boy did it blow up. Bircham got wind of it and, quite fcking rightly, was not happy.
And I remember having a conversation with Polish Paul and a few of my dad's mates in Sorrento that night over dinner when they were basically like "Clive, you're being played mate". At which point I basically said to them that transfer rumours, interviews, fine, lovely, but I'm not doing this. A certain other website appeared about 20 minutes later and I pivoted into trying to open people's eyes as to what was actually going on.
I actually ended up doing my university dissertation on the whole thing in the end, culminating in covering the court case. A very strange time in my life.
HASTY EDIT - I'm absolutely not saying that's what's happening now, by the way. Don't call the lawyers. I'm just using it as an example of lived experience versus youthful naivety. An example of why I am perhaps over sensitive and over wary about how the club communicates with its fans. When you start seeing multiple anonymous accounts registered by one or two people on here, all parroting the exact same lines and talking points, "just a fan who hears a few things", it just triggers me a little bit because that is the sort of thing that was going on back then.
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Very good post and of course social media is huge now compared to back then, so plenty of opportunity for propaganda. | | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 09:46 - May 10 with 2414 views | KensalT |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 09:21 - May 10 by JamesB1979 |
I do worry about the balance sheet issues but I don’t get too agitated by the board room, CEO stuff. For me, it’s mainly about the team. I like a lot of the players in the squad. We have some good characters and I think they do care about QPR. And I think we have some good players too (ignoring the leavers), Field, JCS, Chair, Nardi, Cook, Morrison, Varane. That’s why I’m reasonably happy about the club at the moment. |
Get what you're saying and agree with you about the characters within the squad.
But after such a topsy turvy season it's difficult to be too content about the overall situation. Especially since the season before was the greatest escape since Steve McQueen climbed aboard that motorbike (one for the kids there).
A nice, boring, solid season in mid-table would be nice for a change. Get ourselves a solid platform to start looking up. [Post edited 10 May 10:36]
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| Nourry on new H&F board on 09:57 - May 10 with 2371 views | derbyhoop |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 09:32 - May 10 by Northernr |
53? Hark at one of the site's young firebrands showing off lads |
I refuse to criticise him for his youth and inexperience.  |  |
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| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:03 - May 10 with 2338 views | Hunterhoop |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 23:58 - May 9 by JamesB1979 |
🤦♂️…you’re obsessed |
Obsessed with what?
Our owners have made loads of mistakes but I am worried about having new majority shareholders who perhaps wouldn’t be quite so financially generous. All the clubs with US shareholders have gone down the model of loading the club with debt. That worries me? If it doesn’t worry you, fine. I don’t think I’m obsessed with it though.
And pointing out Hoos, the man who oversaw the last decade and our relationship with the council and failed new ground plans, is still the Chairman. Do you think the Council believe we’re a leopard that has changed its spots? Great if Nourry can win them over and we can redevelop LR. I’d love that. I don’t want us to move and don’t think we need a 30-40k stadium. 25-30k would suffice. If we can somehow do that within the parameters of LR, superb. Would be interested to understand how any of that is financed, mind, if it does happen. |  | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:08 - May 10 with 2315 views | oldmeadoniansR |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 09:32 - May 10 by Northernr |
53? Hark at one of the site's young firebrands showing off lads |
I am basing this on the fact that I have seen you Hunter and Jim in the flesh and you are younger. Not very scientific I will agree!!I have never knowingly seen anyone else. Whatever. The youngsters can have their twitter as long as we can come on here and pontificate in peace. Well, relative peace | | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:11 - May 10 with 2313 views | Jevlar |
I’ve not been shy to be negative so in fairness, Christian joining a H&F board, can only be a good thing. And, as others have said, he’s clearly an impressive young guy.
All this talk of the 25K ground though - where has this sprung from?!
I love LR but the old girl needs some TLC and in this ever increasing world of football where it’s a business first and a football club second (sadly) we’ve got to move with the times. |  | | |
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| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:14 - May 10 with 2294 views | Northernr |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:11 - May 10 by Jevlar |
I’ve not been shy to be negative so in fairness, Christian joining a H&F board, can only be a good thing. And, as others have said, he’s clearly an impressive young guy.
All this talk of the 25K ground though - where has this sprung from?!
I love LR but the old girl needs some TLC and in this ever increasing world of football where it’s a business first and a football club second (sadly) we’ve got to move with the times. |
There's been a rumour doing the rounds for a few weeks about the possible pedestrianisation of South Africa Road, the school moving, and us building out and around and over that space, possibly with us moving out and sharing elsewhere while it happens (cos that ain't a short job). | | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:24 - May 10 with 2235 views | Paddyhoops |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:14 - May 10 by Northernr |
There's been a rumour doing the rounds for a few weeks about the possible pedestrianisation of South Africa Road, the school moving, and us building out and around and over that space, possibly with us moving out and sharing elsewhere while it happens (cos that ain't a short job). |
Sounds like a plan. It’s basically a rat run to get on the A40 anyway. | | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:30 - May 10 with 2207 views | Jevlar |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:14 - May 10 by Northernr |
There's been a rumour doing the rounds for a few weeks about the possible pedestrianisation of South Africa Road, the school moving, and us building out and around and over that space, possibly with us moving out and sharing elsewhere while it happens (cos that ain't a short job). |
Thanks Clive. Wow, this might not even be pie in the sky then… but it’s still a rumour.
We’ve been burnt by shiny promotional pics before. I want a club picture of a shovel in the ground… then I’ll believe it. | | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:34 - May 10 with 2181 views | francisbowles |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 09:19 - May 10 by Northernr |
Well it's also lived experience isn't it? I've lived through the Thompson Out stuff, Chris Wright and admin, and Paladini. Others have the Fulham merger on their slate.
And I think that's what makes a lot of us very wary. If you don't have that experience then why would you be? You thought Les Ferdinand was a bit sht, this guy is new, young, and exciting.
I was on the wrong side of the Paladini thing to start with. I was 20 years old, I'd just taken over this website, he got in touch through a mutual friend and offered me an interview and from there started feeding us transfer gossip about who we were after. Which, to me, at that age, with a new QPR website on my hands, I thought was great. I was able to drop names like Nick Ward on here that nobody had heard and lo and behold two weeks late her turned up. I remember sitting in Paladini's office and he took me through all the players we were signing, got the wage bill out and showed me what everybody was on. I remember at the time people like Finney, and particularly Wombat who became a good friend to this day, getting in my ear telling me to be very, very careful about what was going on, but I couldn't see it. What's not to like?
What then started to happen is they'd ask me to refute certain things that had been said on the message board, or put out a 'defence' of something that was going around that they didn't want to mention on the official website. That made me very uncomfortable.
This came to a head in Sorrento on the pre-season tour when I got a load of player interviews (Lee Cook in a small towel a particular highlight) and dinner at the top table with Paladini, Caliendo etc but they told me that some of the players who'd been left behind (a group that included Evatt, Lomas, Bircham and a couple of others) had been deliberately trying to injure the new players in training. And I posted it. And boy did it blow up. Bircham got wind of it and, quite fcking rightly, was not happy.
And I remember having a conversation with Polish Paul and a few of my dad's mates in Sorrento that night over dinner when they were basically like "Clive, you're being played mate". At which point I basically said to them that transfer rumours, interviews, fine, lovely, but I'm not doing this. A certain other website appeared about 20 minutes later and I pivoted into trying to open people's eyes as to what was actually going on.
I actually ended up doing my university dissertation on the whole thing in the end, culminating in covering the court case. A very strange time in my life.
HASTY EDIT - I'm absolutely not saying that's what's happening now, by the way. Don't call the lawyers. I'm just using it as an example of lived experience versus youthful naivety. An example of why I am perhaps over sensitive and over wary about how the club communicates with its fans. When you start seeing multiple anonymous accounts registered by one or two people on here, all parroting the exact same lines and talking points, "just a fan who hears a few things", it just triggers me a little bit because that is the sort of thing that was going on back then.
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Eye opening stuff, Clive. I knew snippets that you have touched on in your articles but not this in depth. Thank you for the background and well done for coming through all that divisive behaviour, that was surrounding you, as a very young man. | | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:37 - May 10 with 2150 views | Gloucs_R |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:14 - May 10 by Northernr |
There's been a rumour doing the rounds for a few weeks about the possible pedestrianisation of South Africa Road, the school moving, and us building out and around and over that space, possibly with us moving out and sharing elsewhere while it happens (cos that ain't a short job). |
Sharing with who?
My guess would be Wimbledon.
Can't see it being Fulham or Brentford.
Charlton, Palace, Wall... Too far? |  |
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| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:40 - May 10 with 2121 views | QPR_Jim |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:14 - May 10 by Northernr |
There's been a rumour doing the rounds for a few weeks about the possible pedestrianisation of South Africa Road, the school moving, and us building out and around and over that space, possibly with us moving out and sharing elsewhere while it happens (cos that ain't a short job). |
If that's true, hopefully they are also talking to the council about Imre Close as I'm 99% sure they're all council owned. The club could easily keep the community centre and provide more replacement council properties along the West edge of the school site to relocate existing tenants and provide additional capacity for the council. The existing housing could then be demolished and the whole school end could then be rebuilt with a road behind linking Ellerslie Rd and SA Rd.
Won't happen but I think the club should ask the question as it would be better. |  | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:41 - May 10 with 2118 views | DannyPaddox |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 09:19 - May 10 by Northernr |
Well it's also lived experience isn't it? I've lived through the Thompson Out stuff, Chris Wright and admin, and Paladini. Others have the Fulham merger on their slate.
And I think that's what makes a lot of us very wary. If you don't have that experience then why would you be? You thought Les Ferdinand was a bit sht, this guy is new, young, and exciting.
I was on the wrong side of the Paladini thing to start with. I was 20 years old, I'd just taken over this website, he got in touch through a mutual friend and offered me an interview and from there started feeding us transfer gossip about who we were after. Which, to me, at that age, with a new QPR website on my hands, I thought was great. I was able to drop names like Nick Ward on here that nobody had heard and lo and behold two weeks late her turned up. I remember sitting in Paladini's office and he took me through all the players we were signing, got the wage bill out and showed me what everybody was on. I remember at the time people like Finney, and particularly Wombat who became a good friend to this day, getting in my ear telling me to be very, very careful about what was going on, but I couldn't see it. What's not to like?
What then started to happen is they'd ask me to refute certain things that had been said on the message board, or put out a 'defence' of something that was going around that they didn't want to mention on the official website. That made me very uncomfortable.
This came to a head in Sorrento on the pre-season tour when I got a load of player interviews (Lee Cook in a small towel a particular highlight) and dinner at the top table with Paladini, Caliendo etc but they told me that some of the players who'd been left behind (a group that included Evatt, Lomas, Bircham and a couple of others) had been deliberately trying to injure the new players in training. And I posted it. And boy did it blow up. Bircham got wind of it and, quite fcking rightly, was not happy.
And I remember having a conversation with Polish Paul and a few of my dad's mates in Sorrento that night over dinner when they were basically like "Clive, you're being played mate". At which point I basically said to them that transfer rumours, interviews, fine, lovely, but I'm not doing this. A certain other website appeared about 20 minutes later and I pivoted into trying to open people's eyes as to what was actually going on.
I actually ended up doing my university dissertation on the whole thing in the end, culminating in covering the court case. A very strange time in my life.
HASTY EDIT - I'm absolutely not saying that's what's happening now, by the way. Don't call the lawyers. I'm just using it as an example of lived experience versus youthful naivety. An example of why I am perhaps over sensitive and over wary about how the club communicates with its fans. When you start seeing multiple anonymous accounts registered by one or two people on here, all parroting the exact same lines and talking points, "just a fan who hears a few things", it just triggers me a little bit because that is the sort of thing that was going on back then.
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Fascinating stuff. Thanks for sharing. It could be the narrative of one of the Mick Herron Slow Horses spy novels and with the dramatis personae being the QPR squad circa 2006 it would have to be called Slow Horses. |  | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:47 - May 10 with 2063 views | Northernr |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:37 - May 10 by Gloucs_R |
Sharing with who?
My guess would be Wimbledon.
Can't see it being Fulham or Brentford.
Charlton, Palace, Wall... Too far? |
Would have thought Fulham was the most obvious personally.
Before anybody gets out of their tree, this isn't me being ITK or based on any source, it's just a rumour that's been doing the rounds for a while. | | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:48 - May 10 with 2057 views | Gloucs_R |
Could you move the pitch over if you move SA Road stand? Allowing you to rebuild every stand? | |
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| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:52 - May 10 with 2026 views | DannyPaddox |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:37 - May 10 by Gloucs_R |
Sharing with who?
My guess would be Wimbledon.
Can't see it being Fulham or Brentford.
Charlton, Palace, Wall... Too far? |
Shabab Al Ahli Dubai FC? | | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:58 - May 10 with 2002 views | BostonR |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:14 - May 10 by Northernr |
There's been a rumour doing the rounds for a few weeks about the possible pedestrianisation of South Africa Road, the school moving, and us building out and around and over that space, possibly with us moving out and sharing elsewhere while it happens (cos that ain't a short job). |
Interesting option but there’s nothing in that from an investment perspective. If the Board want to just focus on a “half-way house” refurbishment option, I can definitely see that as a good option.
Given the myriad of possible investment options presenting themselves on the LCS and OOC sites that is an opportunity too good to miss - in my opinion and experience.
One option gives us a quick short-term upgrade whilst the other provides a huge opportunity to take the club upwards with a state of the art modern stadium with associated infrastructure and the opportunity to invest in a huge development opportunity that dwarfs anything going on in White City.
The associated investment gains on the second option would fund the club way beyond anything happening today where the owners have to find £2M a month to finance the club. |  | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 11:19 - May 10 with 1949 views | dmm |
Looking at the map of LR, acquiring the school and also building over SA road doesn't look like it would provide the right shape. And, as said many times before, there would be right to light issues for the White City estate. | | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 11:32 - May 10 with 1886 views | DannyPaddox |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 11:19 - May 10 by dmm |
Looking at the map of LR, acquiring the school and also building over SA road doesn't look like it would provide the right shape. And, as said many times before, there would be right to light issues for the White City estate. |
I dunno but for me it’s a shape I often associate with QPR | | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 11:53 - May 10 with 1800 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 11:32 - May 10 by DannyPaddox |
I dunno but for me it’s a shape I often associate with QPR |
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On a serious note, if these rumours are true I can see the whole stadium being flattened and moved 50yds. With the school gone and S Africa Rd pedestrianised that is quite a large area. It's probably cheaper to flatten and start a new rather than doing a bolt on job.
Not going to get excited though. We are cynical. | |
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| Nourry on new H&F board on 12:00 - May 10 with 1774 views | dmm |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 11:53 - May 10 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
🤣😂🤣😂
On a serious note, if these rumours are true I can see the whole stadium being flattened and moved 50yds. With the school gone and S Africa Rd pedestrianised that is quite a large area. It's probably cheaper to flatten and start a new rather than doing a bolt on job.
Not going to get excited though. We are cynical. |
Even with the school gone, you have Imre Close taking up a sizable space at that end so the shape of the space created would be problematic. | | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 12:12 - May 10 with 1698 views | CateLeBonR |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 12:00 - May 10 by dmm |
Even with the school gone, you have Imre Close taking up a sizable space at that end so the shape of the space created would be problematic. |
Problematic is an improvement on impossible. |  | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 12:19 - May 10 with 1644 views | EalingHoop81 |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 12:00 - May 10 by dmm |
Even with the school gone, you have Imre Close taking up a sizable space at that end so the shape of the space created would be problematic. |
If the pitch was moved around so pointing more towards the power league pitches, it would alleviate some of the limitations around the school/ Ellerslie and the Ellerslie/Loft corners of the ground. It could provide the footprint to allow the H&S to stop being the major curtailing issue as we expand into SA side which has a lot of space already at the SA/Loft corner.
Time will tell but it feels the best option for expanding the ground that I have heard…. [Post edited 10 May 12:20]
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