| Nourry on new H&F board 11:19 - May 9 with 32511 views | Rangersw12 |
Surely this must be good news in respect of redeveloping Lotus Road or sourcing a new ground
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| Nourry on new H&F board on 18:29 - May 10 with 3875 views | SimonJames |
I was hoping against hope that Nourry would be sacked, before the new season.  |  |
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| Nourry on new H&F board on 19:05 - May 10 with 3761 views | dutch |
Do we know if Mr Nourry has been told about the possibility of digging down? | | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 19:27 - May 10 with 3666 views | Benny_the_Ball |
Whilst I wasn't the biggest fan of his appointment in the first place, I must say that this move makes sense. The club needs to improve it's relationship with the local authority if it's to have a future in the borough. Sitting on the H&F strategic advisory board places the club in a strong position to leverage any future development initiatives.
That being said, I do worry that Christian is being spread very thin. Adding this role to CEO and DoF is quite an undertaking. |  | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 20:29 - May 10 with 3549 views | HammersmithR |
I would say our stadium redevelopment or new stadium is the most important thing for this club over the next 5 years. If we fail to do anything then we will continue to fall further and further behind Brentford and Fulham. I happened to be going past Fulham’s ground this afternoon after their game. All their fans were on the riverfront there. They had music. They had the 5.30 game on. The fans were buying beer after beer (and Pimms). 99% of our fans just watch the game and go. There is no attempt to keep us in the ground and spend money. Fulham and Brentford have clearly tapped into how maximise revenue with their new ground / redevelopments. My experience of going to Loftus Rd has literally not changed in over 40 years. I go to the same seat through the same turnstile. My seats are like sitting on Ryan Air for 90 mins. I go for a pi55 and the bogs are still the same. I love it but my God we have to move with the times
If we want to attract floating fans.
The new training ground was very much Hoos’s project and he has delivered on it. Nourry’s legacy needs to be sorting out our stadium. The natural point after that will be promotion to the Premier League. Loftus Rd is just past is sadly. It has given me and my family so many memories but we have to move on. Its current state is not fit for purpose. If it means we have to ground share at Fulham / Brentford / AFC Wimbledon for 2 or 3 years then so be it. | | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 21:16 - May 10 with 3386 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 20:29 - May 10 by HammersmithR |
I would say our stadium redevelopment or new stadium is the most important thing for this club over the next 5 years. If we fail to do anything then we will continue to fall further and further behind Brentford and Fulham. I happened to be going past Fulham’s ground this afternoon after their game. All their fans were on the riverfront there. They had music. They had the 5.30 game on. The fans were buying beer after beer (and Pimms). 99% of our fans just watch the game and go. There is no attempt to keep us in the ground and spend money. Fulham and Brentford have clearly tapped into how maximise revenue with their new ground / redevelopments. My experience of going to Loftus Rd has literally not changed in over 40 years. I go to the same seat through the same turnstile. My seats are like sitting on Ryan Air for 90 mins. I go for a pi55 and the bogs are still the same. I love it but my God we have to move with the times
If we want to attract floating fans.
The new training ground was very much Hoos’s project and he has delivered on it. Nourry’s legacy needs to be sorting out our stadium. The natural point after that will be promotion to the Premier League. Loftus Rd is just past is sadly. It has given me and my family so many memories but we have to move on. Its current state is not fit for purpose. If it means we have to ground share at Fulham / Brentford / AFC Wimbledon for 2 or 3 years then so be it. |
Whilst I agree that the overall matchday experience needs significant improvement, it's unrealistic to expect QPR to match the experience of being on the riverside in either Fulham or Kew without a stadium move. It still grinds my gears that QPR didn't piggyback the Westfield development. | | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 21:27 - May 10 with 3371 views | corse |
Just wait and see how the stadium is bulldozed down, ground sold and replaced with expensive apartments and offices and the football team once known qpr will disappear into oblivion. Thats how much i trust our owners. Fck em | | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 21:50 - May 10 with 3276 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Jesus, we have a potential positive for the club yet still people are negative.
No wonder the youngsters take the pish out of some of the posts on here. | |
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| Nourry on new H&F board on 21:59 - May 10 with 3247 views | corse |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 21:50 - May 10 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Jesus, we have a potential positive for the club yet still people are negative.
No wonder the youngsters take the pish out of some of the posts on here. |
Years of mismanagement and poor decisions from the club and a bottle of of brandy has taken its toll tonight. [Post edited 10 May 22:01]
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| Nourry on new H&F boaard on 22:08 - May 10 with 3205 views | wombat |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 09:37 - May 10 by dmm |
That's some story, Clive, and it's very honest of you to share it. I kind of knew some of it but not as a complete narrative. There's nothing that beats the school of real experience. |
Cheers for the name check Clive , like you and many others we have been through varying amounts of crap off the pitch as well as watching it on the pitch. It would be nice to have the odd season when we actually seem to be a well run football club . Making. The right moves signing the right players, and not being used as a play thing by owners , agents etc . As Clive can testify it’s bloody exhausting . During the paladini days it was like good and evil fighting it out in various ways , drummer boy Pete Scott red sofa jones and a few others on one side, Finney Clive and a fair few others , abuse allegations you name it were thrown at us in different ways bribes even offered .
Hopefully the boy wonder is the answer to our prayers , but until proven he is and not just a blagger who’s somehow found himself with the keys to the sweetshop I’ll reserve judgement . As others have mentioned I’m amazed at how. Many have taken the few words he actually said as. Gospel . |  |
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| Nourry on new H&F board on 22:11 - May 10 with 3170 views | wombat |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 19:27 - May 10 by Benny_the_Ball |
Whilst I wasn't the biggest fan of his appointment in the first place, I must say that this move makes sense. The club needs to improve it's relationship with the local authority if it's to have a future in the borough. Sitting on the H&F strategic advisory board places the club in a strong position to leverage any future development initiatives.
That being said, I do worry that Christian is being spread very thin. Adding this role to CEO and DoF is quite an undertaking. |
Don’t forget being in charge of the set piece coach also | |
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| Nourry on new H&F board on 22:19 - May 10 with 3136 views | Match82 |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 22:11 - May 10 by wombat |
Don’t forget being in charge of the set piece coach also |
After seeing what he decided last time round after his extensive search for a CEO, there's a non zero chance that his extensive search for a new manager will come up with the same incredible candidate |  | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 22:20 - May 10 with 3129 views | Lblock |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 09:19 - May 10 by Northernr |
Well it's also lived experience isn't it? I've lived through the Thompson Out stuff, Chris Wright and admin, and Paladini. Others have the Fulham merger on their slate.
And I think that's what makes a lot of us very wary. If you don't have that experience then why would you be? You thought Les Ferdinand was a bit sht, this guy is new, young, and exciting.
I was on the wrong side of the Paladini thing to start with. I was 20 years old, I'd just taken over this website, he got in touch through a mutual friend and offered me an interview and from there started feeding us transfer gossip about who we were after. Which, to me, at that age, with a new QPR website on my hands, I thought was great. I was able to drop names like Nick Ward on here that nobody had heard and lo and behold two weeks late her turned up. I remember sitting in Paladini's office and he took me through all the players we were signing, got the wage bill out and showed me what everybody was on. I remember at the time people like Finney, and particularly Wombat who became a good friend to this day, getting in my ear telling me to be very, very careful about what was going on, but I couldn't see it. What's not to like?
What then started to happen is they'd ask me to refute certain things that had been said on the message board, or put out a 'defence' of something that was going around that they didn't want to mention on the official website. That made me very uncomfortable.
This came to a head in Sorrento on the pre-season tour when I got a load of player interviews (Lee Cook in a small towel a particular highlight) and dinner at the top table with Paladini, Caliendo etc but they told me that some of the players who'd been left behind (a group that included Evatt, Lomas, Bircham and a couple of others) had been deliberately trying to injure the new players in training. And I posted it. And boy did it blow up. Bircham got wind of it and, quite fcking rightly, was not happy.
And I remember having a conversation with Polish Paul and a few of my dad's mates in Sorrento that night over dinner when they were basically like "Clive, you're being played mate". At which point I basically said to them that transfer rumours, interviews, fine, lovely, but I'm not doing this. A certain other website appeared about 20 minutes later and I pivoted into trying to open people's eyes as to what was actually going on.
I actually ended up doing my university dissertation on the whole thing in the end, culminating in covering the court case. A very strange time in my life.
HASTY EDIT - I'm absolutely not saying that's what's happening now, by the way. Don't call the lawyers. I'm just using it as an example of lived experience versus youthful naivety. An example of why I am perhaps over sensitive and over wary about how the club communicates with its fans. When you start seeing multiple anonymous accounts registered by one or two people on here, all parroting the exact same lines and talking points, "just a fan who hears a few things", it just triggers me a little bit because that is the sort of thing that was going on back then.
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It’s no wonder I came close to lumping the waiter at a POTY do at The Hilton years ago
Settled for calming repeating “you lying k*nt” to his face after he’d tried to fill me with bullshizen |  |
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| Nourry on new H&F board (n/t) on 01:19 - May 11 with 2963 views | PunteR |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 09:21 - May 10 by JamesB1979 |
I do worry about the balance sheet issues but I don’t get too agitated by the board room, CEO stuff. For me, it’s mainly about the team. I like a lot of the players in the squad. We have some good characters and I think they do care about QPR. And I think we have some good players too (ignoring the leavers), Field, JCS, Chair, Nardi, Cook, Morrison, Varane. That’s why I’m reasonably happy about the club at the moment. |
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| Nourry on new H&F board on 04:34 - May 11 with 2853 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 22:11 - May 10 by wombat |
Don’t forget being in charge of the set piece coach also |
That's presumably part of his remit as DoF. | | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 08:04 - May 11 with 2656 views | Ad99 |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 09:19 - May 10 by Northernr |
Well it's also lived experience isn't it? I've lived through the Thompson Out stuff, Chris Wright and admin, and Paladini. Others have the Fulham merger on their slate.
And I think that's what makes a lot of us very wary. If you don't have that experience then why would you be? You thought Les Ferdinand was a bit sht, this guy is new, young, and exciting.
I was on the wrong side of the Paladini thing to start with. I was 20 years old, I'd just taken over this website, he got in touch through a mutual friend and offered me an interview and from there started feeding us transfer gossip about who we were after. Which, to me, at that age, with a new QPR website on my hands, I thought was great. I was able to drop names like Nick Ward on here that nobody had heard and lo and behold two weeks late her turned up. I remember sitting in Paladini's office and he took me through all the players we were signing, got the wage bill out and showed me what everybody was on. I remember at the time people like Finney, and particularly Wombat who became a good friend to this day, getting in my ear telling me to be very, very careful about what was going on, but I couldn't see it. What's not to like?
What then started to happen is they'd ask me to refute certain things that had been said on the message board, or put out a 'defence' of something that was going around that they didn't want to mention on the official website. That made me very uncomfortable.
This came to a head in Sorrento on the pre-season tour when I got a load of player interviews (Lee Cook in a small towel a particular highlight) and dinner at the top table with Paladini, Caliendo etc but they told me that some of the players who'd been left behind (a group that included Evatt, Lomas, Bircham and a couple of others) had been deliberately trying to injure the new players in training. And I posted it. And boy did it blow up. Bircham got wind of it and, quite fcking rightly, was not happy.
And I remember having a conversation with Polish Paul and a few of my dad's mates in Sorrento that night over dinner when they were basically like "Clive, you're being played mate". At which point I basically said to them that transfer rumours, interviews, fine, lovely, but I'm not doing this. A certain other website appeared about 20 minutes later and I pivoted into trying to open people's eyes as to what was actually going on.
I actually ended up doing my university dissertation on the whole thing in the end, culminating in covering the court case. A very strange time in my life.
HASTY EDIT - I'm absolutely not saying that's what's happening now, by the way. Don't call the lawyers. I'm just using it as an example of lived experience versus youthful naivety. An example of why I am perhaps over sensitive and over wary about how the club communicates with its fans. When you start seeing multiple anonymous accounts registered by one or two people on here, all parroting the exact same lines and talking points, "just a fan who hears a few things", it just triggers me a little bit because that is the sort of thing that was going on back then.
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Mate, please write a book....? | | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 08:28 - May 11 with 2544 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:47 - May 10 by Northernr |
Would have thought Fulham was the most obvious personally.
Before anybody gets out of their tree, this isn't me being ITK or based on any source, it's just a rumour that's been doing the rounds for a while. |
I have posted this before but at my girlfriend's former company (an architect's) there was a tender running for Loftus Road. That would have been last year. Dunno if that's connected with the rumour you cited but shows that they are certainly planning something. | | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 08:39 - May 11 with 2514 views | Gloucs_R |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:47 - May 10 by Northernr |
Would have thought Fulham was the most obvious personally.
Before anybody gets out of their tree, this isn't me being ITK or based on any source, it's just a rumour that's been doing the rounds for a while. |
I ruled them out as the Premier League clubs get all precious about their pitches.
Logically and logistically, it would make the most sense though.
Also, they did share with us so only fair to reciprocate the offer. |  |
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| Nourry on new H&F board on 09:28 - May 11 with 2385 views | PunteR |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 08:39 - May 11 by Gloucs_R |
I ruled them out as the Premier League clubs get all precious about their pitches.
Logically and logistically, it would make the most sense though.
Also, they did share with us so only fair to reciprocate the offer. |
So Fulham Park Rangers it is. Tbh I'd rather share their ground then Brentfords. | |
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| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:12 - May 11 with 2273 views | Andybrat |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 21:50 - May 10 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Jesus, we have a potential positive for the club yet still people are negative.
No wonder the youngsters take the pish out of some of the posts on here. |
Totally agree, wonder how many of these at the final this week?
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Whatever you think of him, Nourry is obviously not out to a bad job for so many reasons, the main thing being if he cocks it all up at his age he could well be unemployed for a long long time. His motivation is more than say Hoos who is no doubt independently wealthy. Try and think that he has the best intentions. No worries criticising decisions made, like I don’t care about contract lengths, I do care Clive doesn’t get access. We have the spine of a decent team next season and could have a rare situation of options up front when Charlie returns. Youngsters coming through and if this thread was true about the ground I’m sure all would forgive his faults.
Sunday morning, sunny day, cup of tea talking. 62 so in the old gits category | | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:49 - May 11 with 2172 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:12 - May 11 by Andybrat |
Totally agree, wonder how many of these at the final this week?
Guys
Whatever you think of him, Nourry is obviously not out to a bad job for so many reasons, the main thing being if he cocks it all up at his age he could well be unemployed for a long long time. His motivation is more than say Hoos who is no doubt independently wealthy. Try and think that he has the best intentions. No worries criticising decisions made, like I don’t care about contract lengths, I do care Clive doesn’t get access. We have the spine of a decent team next season and could have a rare situation of options up front when Charlie returns. Youngsters coming through and if this thread was true about the ground I’m sure all would forgive his faults.
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"if this thread was true about the ground I’m sure all would forgive his faults."
If - and posters are warning it's just a rumour - we're buying the school and the Council are pedestrianising South Africa Road as part of a regeneration of the area and we are extending the Stand and architects were tendering last year... if...then we're talking about a process that would surely have taken years and I think we would find out that it was Hoos and the Board who who launched it. |  |
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| Nourry on new H&F board on 11:37 - May 11 with 2071 views | QPR_Jim |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:49 - May 11 by BrianMcCarthy |
"if this thread was true about the ground I’m sure all would forgive his faults."
If - and posters are warning it's just a rumour - we're buying the school and the Council are pedestrianising South Africa Road as part of a regeneration of the area and we are extending the Stand and architects were tendering last year... if...then we're talking about a process that would surely have taken years and I think we would find out that it was Hoos and the Board who who launched it. |
True, I'd still be willing to give CN some credit if he gets it done though. These things aren't easy but as you say presumably a lot of groundwork to get to this point but he'll be on this H&F board so liaising directly to get it pushed forward.
I still think the best thing he could do, right now, is appoint a DoF to concentrate on the on-field stuff. As CEO he could still insist on the direction of travel with the data for signings or give a structure for the academy that he wants the DoF to follow. He'd be appointing the guy, so could make sure they align on all that stuff anyway. I'd also give the DoF the opportunity to review Marti's position but I doubt either party would want that.
I think that's where he's really going wrong, it's going to be hard to turn public opinion while he's the guy who blew most of our budget on Celar and Madsen. You'd hope Hoo's would be in his ear giving him some perspective. |  | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 11:41 - May 11 with 2053 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 11:37 - May 11 by QPR_Jim |
True, I'd still be willing to give CN some credit if he gets it done though. These things aren't easy but as you say presumably a lot of groundwork to get to this point but he'll be on this H&F board so liaising directly to get it pushed forward.
I still think the best thing he could do, right now, is appoint a DoF to concentrate on the on-field stuff. As CEO he could still insist on the direction of travel with the data for signings or give a structure for the academy that he wants the DoF to follow. He'd be appointing the guy, so could make sure they align on all that stuff anyway. I'd also give the DoF the opportunity to review Marti's position but I doubt either party would want that.
I think that's where he's really going wrong, it's going to be hard to turn public opinion while he's the guy who blew most of our budget on Celar and Madsen. You'd hope Hoo's would be in his ear giving him some perspective. |
Very fair post, Jim. Lots to think about there. | |
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| Nourry on new H&F board on 11:53 - May 11 with 2005 views | dmm |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 10:12 - May 11 by Andybrat |
Totally agree, wonder how many of these at the final this week?
Guys
Whatever you think of him, Nourry is obviously not out to a bad job for so many reasons, the main thing being if he cocks it all up at his age he could well be unemployed for a long long time. His motivation is more than say Hoos who is no doubt independently wealthy. Try and think that he has the best intentions. No worries criticising decisions made, like I don’t care about contract lengths, I do care Clive doesn’t get access. We have the spine of a decent team next season and could have a rare situation of options up front when Charlie returns. Youngsters coming through and if this thread was true about the ground I’m sure all would forgive his faults.
Sunday morning, sunny day, cup of tea talking. 62 so in the old gits category |
I don't think I've seen anyone question Nourry's intentions. I'm sure he wants QPR to succeed. It would be truly bizarre if it were not so.
I do think many have questioned Nourry's methods, as indeed I do. By that I mean how he communicates with the fans - and I do care about contract lengths as do many others. How he communicates, or rather doesn't, with fan groups such as LFW. How he has overseen a recruitment strategy which caused such difficulties this season. How he has managed the situation with Cifuentes, which I admit is not entirely clear, but has nonetheless resulted in the departure of the most popular and promising head coach for many years.
If he stays around he may yet prove to be successful in the long term but so far I and many others are not at all impressed. |  | | |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 12:58 - May 11 with 1840 views | mart_Goblin |
| Nourry on new H&F board on 09:19 - May 10 by Northernr |
Well it's also lived experience isn't it? I've lived through the Thompson Out stuff, Chris Wright and admin, and Paladini. Others have the Fulham merger on their slate.
And I think that's what makes a lot of us very wary. If you don't have that experience then why would you be? You thought Les Ferdinand was a bit sht, this guy is new, young, and exciting.
I was on the wrong side of the Paladini thing to start with. I was 20 years old, I'd just taken over this website, he got in touch through a mutual friend and offered me an interview and from there started feeding us transfer gossip about who we were after. Which, to me, at that age, with a new QPR website on my hands, I thought was great. I was able to drop names like Nick Ward on here that nobody had heard and lo and behold two weeks late her turned up. I remember sitting in Paladini's office and he took me through all the players we were signing, got the wage bill out and showed me what everybody was on. I remember at the time people like Finney, and particularly Wombat who became a good friend to this day, getting in my ear telling me to be very, very careful about what was going on, but I couldn't see it. What's not to like?
What then started to happen is they'd ask me to refute certain things that had been said on the message board, or put out a 'defence' of something that was going around that they didn't want to mention on the official website. That made me very uncomfortable.
This came to a head in Sorrento on the pre-season tour when I got a load of player interviews (Lee Cook in a small towel a particular highlight) and dinner at the top table with Paladini, Caliendo etc but they told me that some of the players who'd been left behind (a group that included Evatt, Lomas, Bircham and a couple of others) had been deliberately trying to injure the new players in training. And I posted it. And boy did it blow up. Bircham got wind of it and, quite fcking rightly, was not happy.
And I remember having a conversation with Polish Paul and a few of my dad's mates in Sorrento that night over dinner when they were basically like "Clive, you're being played mate". At which point I basically said to them that transfer rumours, interviews, fine, lovely, but I'm not doing this. A certain other website appeared about 20 minutes later and I pivoted into trying to open people's eyes as to what was actually going on.
I actually ended up doing my university dissertation on the whole thing in the end, culminating in covering the court case. A very strange time in my life.
HASTY EDIT - I'm absolutely not saying that's what's happening now, by the way. Don't call the lawyers. I'm just using it as an example of lived experience versus youthful naivety. An example of why I am perhaps over sensitive and over wary about how the club communicates with its fans. When you start seeing multiple anonymous accounts registered by one or two people on here, all parroting the exact same lines and talking points, "just a fan who hears a few things", it just triggers me a little bit because that is the sort of thing that was going on back then.
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Magnificent insight.
I don’t know about anyone else, but I just didn’t think stuff like that went on.
And that’s very naive and strikes to the heart of Clive’s point that age or experience plays a big part of how you think as you get older .
The first time I met Clive was on an Open All R’s podcast many moons ago . I remember Peter Hucker was on the phone during it . I only went on as they want different people like myself (a musician, at the time ) with maybe a different view.
But I was not naive in years as I think I’m a fair bit older than Clive but I was naive in experience and knowledge . I was aware to a point of the Paladini / Briatore nonsense but didn’t know the half of it. I spent a lot of that podcast backing Tony Fernandes as I liked him. I thought he was a good guy with good intentions and couldn’t see past that . I didn’t want to see past that if I’m being honest .
Clive spent the pod raising his eyebrows and questioning what I was saying . Not in an aggressive way , but just “saying I wouldn’t be so sure “ etc.
Moving on people like Finney and moreso people like Steve Sayce would always baulk at why I was arguing about TF.
It took a while but in the end I had to take on board that these people had been there and seen it before and had to have a point . I’m a stubborn git but i know when i’m just being stubborn for stubborn sake .
In the end I read and i learned and i made my own mind up through knowledge and wanting to listen to people who inevitably knew more than me on subjects .
This message board and site actually allow that . We might not agree but we can read and take in different points of view where I’m not sure places like Twitter allow that without being told you’re a …whatever .
I do see some that old stubbornness in some , where they are entrenched without wanting to hear another view, but that’s up those and their right to do so .
I just think that’s the main difference in why this an older demographics and all power to it.
I left Twitter 6 years ago and never ever looked back . |  | | |
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