| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 16:37 - Jul 9 with 3592 views | stowmarketrange |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 17:43 - Jul 8 by Northernr |
Add £14m to that for Borja Sainz. |
Shame we don’t get to see him implode again this season. |  | |  |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 16:53 - Jul 9 with 3499 views | Loyalitat |
I am sure that during Rohl's time at Wednesday, either he or his representative(s) must have spoken to/sounded out other clubs re: potential move away from said club.
If he were to stay, you suspect that they'll have enough to stay clear of the bottom three. [Post edited 9 Jul 16:55]
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 17:25 - Jul 9 with 3379 views | Burnleyhoop |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 17:06 - Jul 7 by Myke |
And as a fan base we are still not getting. There was a suggestion last month that Varane could be sold for 5M. Everyone started jumping up and down saying he is worth way more than that. Over FIVE times what we paid for him.a year ago after - at best- a mediocre season. We wouldn't gave been able to give him away last Christmas. It was the same with Willock and look how that turned out. We have done it once with Eze, which is not nearly enough to be competitive |
A players value increases for good reason. Chair was probably our most valuable asset last season but spent most of the time in the treatment room and as such, any interest quickly cooled.
If we are to get decent money for any of our players, they need to have a standout season to attract any interest. Jimmy was our best player last season and we almost lost him because of it, although that would have been on a free. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 17:32 - Jul 9 with 3355 views | Match82 |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 14:26 - Jul 9 by stumbleandfall |
I was looking at this the other day. Chair is 7th on the all time list and could be 5th by Christmas. He could realistically be top in 4-5 season with a good run.
Matthew Rose is 8th. Unbelievable stat. [Post edited 9 Jul 14:28]
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I could buy Rose as being our 8th longest tenured player but games actually played is a shocker |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 17:45 - Jul 9 with 3294 views | DavieQPR |
Trouble is we were never offered £5m for Varane we were offered this with add ons which are never guaranteed.Would have been more likely £3m over 3 years. |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 18:42 - Jul 9 with 3158 views | lassel |
Allegedly this is just him protecting his position. He told the club and players he wasn’t coming back and Textors takeover has progressed with this expectation - his assistant got a new deal to succeed him when it’s all announced. He’s now saying he’s staying so they have to pay him out once they pull the trigger. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 20:22 - Jul 9 with 2984 views | Stainrod |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 18:07 - Jul 8 by queensparker |
After all this time I'd be keen for Chair to do his whole career here now and set some records.
You don't see it anymore and he's been our best player for years, we've just got used to him
I think the time we could have sold him for a decent sum has gone after CoachRockGate [Post edited 8 Jul 18:07]
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But here’s the thing: the up and coming players you say are not ready to sell; the “upped and come” you say we have left it too late.
You don’t want to sell anyone it seems. But to get a conveyor belt going you do need to sell SOMEBODY. | | | |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 22:25 - Jul 9 with 2783 views | CopenhagenRs |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 14:35 - Jul 7 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Again, a mid table Championship side spending big money everyone knows they don't have on an unproven player.
These club's are nuts doing what they are doin, it's absolute madness. All the club's that have been or are now struggling financially should be huge wake-up call, yet still more lemmings prepare to jump into financial oblivion.
I am dead chuffed with what we are doing, and though it has taken a good few years, we are no longer the biggest basket case in the league. |
I don't think Mathias Kvistgaarden is an unproven or overpriced player at all. On the contrary, I believe Norwich scouted him thoroughly and got him at a bargain. Many expected him to be sold for at least £10 million to one of the top five leagues in Europe.
Kvistgaarden just had an impressive 2024/2025 season with Brøndby IF in Denmark and made his senior debut for the national team in 2025. He made 43 appearances across all competitions this season, scoring 23 goals and providing 7 assists. His consistent goal-scoring ability and contributions have been crucial for Brøndby IF.
If he can maintain that level of performance in the Championship, Norwich could potentially make a huge profit by selling him to a bigger club for double the amount. The only concern is his size, which might be an issue when facing big, physical center halves in the Championship. However, I really think Norwich has done their homework on him, and he could be their new Teemu Pukki, who they also bought from Brøndby IF. |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 12:37 - Jul 10 with 2413 views | francisbowles |
From what we read, the compensation fee was so high no one would pay it. Wednesday can't afford to replace him without it.
Potential owners probably keen on keeping him to give a little stability in a horrendous situation. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 12:47 - Jul 10 with 2358 views | CamberleyR |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 14:26 - Jul 9 by stumbleandfall |
I was looking at this the other day. Chair is 7th on the all time list and could be 5th by Christmas. He could realistically be top in 4-5 season with a good run.
Matthew Rose is 8th. Unbelievable stat. [Post edited 9 Jul 14:28]
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I don't know what site you were looking at but no way has Rose the 8th most all time appearances.
This site seems very accurate to me. It has Rose down at 32 and Chair just above at 31.
https://www.qprhistory.co.uk/players/player-apperances |  |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 19:30 - Jul 10 with 2119 views | Northernr |
Stoke chucking enormous money to make Aaron Cresswell their left back for the next 9 months is the most Stoke Stoke have been for about 24 hours. |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 21:48 - Jul 10 with 1909 views | queensparker |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 20:22 - Jul 9 by Stainrod |
But here’s the thing: the up and coming players you say are not ready to sell; the “upped and come” you say we have left it too late.
You don’t want to sell anyone it seems. But to get a conveyor belt going you do need to sell SOMEBODY. |
Agreed - just saying that Chair has put himself into a unique place (unlike Varane, Nardi etc that we could sell) that means he could conceivably be one of our all-time appearance holders
Would be great to see in a time when a one club player is incredibly rare, and it helps that he’s really good too |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 22:31 - Jul 10 with 1778 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 22:25 - Jul 9 by CopenhagenRs |
I don't think Mathias Kvistgaarden is an unproven or overpriced player at all. On the contrary, I believe Norwich scouted him thoroughly and got him at a bargain. Many expected him to be sold for at least £10 million to one of the top five leagues in Europe.
Kvistgaarden just had an impressive 2024/2025 season with Brøndby IF in Denmark and made his senior debut for the national team in 2025. He made 43 appearances across all competitions this season, scoring 23 goals and providing 7 assists. His consistent goal-scoring ability and contributions have been crucial for Brøndby IF.
If he can maintain that level of performance in the Championship, Norwich could potentially make a huge profit by selling him to a bigger club for double the amount. The only concern is his size, which might be an issue when facing big, physical center halves in the Championship. However, I really think Norwich has done their homework on him, and he could be their new Teemu Pukki, who they also bought from Brøndby IF. |
OK.
Here is a question for everyone who questioned my little rant about Norwich spending £m on a striker.
If there is nothing wrong with spending this money, which is a finite resource, why are teams such as Norwich, Boro, Bristol City, Blackburn, etc who have all spent millions not promoted?
I hear how great they are doing, etc, but they are all still in the same division as us, and we've been a clusterf@ck for years.
My take is this. They have bought well for individuals but have failed to invest in a team.
I'd go as far to say they are in a worse position than us. They are spending £m's but no better off than us. I'll stand by my post a couple of days ago that they can't afford it as it is unsustainable for them. | |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 22:57 - Jul 10 with 1663 views | kensalriser |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 22:31 - Jul 10 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
OK.
Here is a question for everyone who questioned my little rant about Norwich spending £m on a striker.
If there is nothing wrong with spending this money, which is a finite resource, why are teams such as Norwich, Boro, Bristol City, Blackburn, etc who have all spent millions not promoted?
I hear how great they are doing, etc, but they are all still in the same division as us, and we've been a clusterf@ck for years.
My take is this. They have bought well for individuals but have failed to invest in a team.
I'd go as far to say they are in a worse position than us. They are spending £m's but no better off than us. I'll stand by my post a couple of days ago that they can't afford it as it is unsustainable for them. |
Is it the same reason we spent gazillions only to get relegated twice and end up right where we started?
Every year most teams don't get promoted. |  |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 01:52 - Jul 11 with 1469 views | VancouverHoop |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 22:57 - Jul 10 by kensalriser |
Is it the same reason we spent gazillions only to get relegated twice and end up right where we started?
Every year most teams don't get promoted. |
Nor do most teams get relegated.
Increasingly it's about how close you come to one or t'other. At least in this division. It's fever dreams or nightmares.
Personally I try not to think about 'up' or 'down.' It's the ninety minutes in front of you twice a week that matter. Football's about the moment not the season.
Until April comes at least. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 08:00 - Jul 11 with 1263 views | nix |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 22:31 - Jul 10 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
OK.
Here is a question for everyone who questioned my little rant about Norwich spending £m on a striker.
If there is nothing wrong with spending this money, which is a finite resource, why are teams such as Norwich, Boro, Bristol City, Blackburn, etc who have all spent millions not promoted?
I hear how great they are doing, etc, but they are all still in the same division as us, and we've been a clusterf@ck for years.
My take is this. They have bought well for individuals but have failed to invest in a team.
I'd go as far to say they are in a worse position than us. They are spending £m's but no better off than us. I'll stand by my post a couple of days ago that they can't afford it as it is unsustainable for them. |
I agree with you about Norwich. They love having shiny, exciting front players but don't bother with boring old defenders, at least if their play at LR is representative. Sainz I don't think tracked back once to help his LB who was having a torrid time against Smyth and resorted to wrestling him over in the end!
Burnley skowed how valuable a decent defence is and surely cheaper to assemble. Not saying their strategy hasn't been financially beneficial as it's led to big sell-on fees but not promotion. |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 08:16 - Jul 11 with 1216 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 08:00 - Jul 11 by nix |
I agree with you about Norwich. They love having shiny, exciting front players but don't bother with boring old defenders, at least if their play at LR is representative. Sainz I don't think tracked back once to help his LB who was having a torrid time against Smyth and resorted to wrestling him over in the end!
Burnley skowed how valuable a decent defence is and surely cheaper to assemble. Not saying their strategy hasn't been financially beneficial as it's led to big sell-on fees but not promotion. |
But that doesn't mean they 'can't afford it', it means they proportion their spend poorly. Long may that continue. |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 08:29 - Jul 11 with 1165 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 22:31 - Jul 10 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
OK.
Here is a question for everyone who questioned my little rant about Norwich spending £m on a striker.
If there is nothing wrong with spending this money, which is a finite resource, why are teams such as Norwich, Boro, Bristol City, Blackburn, etc who have all spent millions not promoted?
I hear how great they are doing, etc, but they are all still in the same division as us, and we've been a clusterf@ck for years.
My take is this. They have bought well for individuals but have failed to invest in a team.
I'd go as far to say they are in a worse position than us. They are spending £m's but no better off than us. I'll stand by my post a couple of days ago that they can't afford it as it is unsustainable for them. |
The last three sets of accounts by both teams report PBT losses of:
Norwich: £59.5m
QPR: £58.5m
The league positions over those three years have been:
Norwich: 13th, 6th, 13th.
QPR: 20th, 18th, 15th.
So they've lost a whopping £1m more than us over three years and have two mid table seasons and one playoff appearance to show for it.
Damning Norwich as a basket case whilst glorifying QPR as some sort of luminary is just completely bizarre when it comes to affordability and sustainability. I'd swap our accounts with theirs in a heartbeat. [Post edited 11 Jul 8:31]
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 08:36 - Jul 11 with 1127 views | CroydonCaptJack |
You'd rather have lost more money?
Strange. |  |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 08:40 - Jul 11 with 1108 views | dmm |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 08:36 - Jul 11 by CroydonCaptJack |
You'd rather have lost more money?
Strange. |
It's not a lot over 3 years. I think Padula's Shampoo has made his point well. |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 08:40 - Jul 11 with 1096 views | nix |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 08:29 - Jul 11 by Padulas_Shampoo |
The last three sets of accounts by both teams report PBT losses of:
Norwich: £59.5m
QPR: £58.5m
The league positions over those three years have been:
Norwich: 13th, 6th, 13th.
QPR: 20th, 18th, 15th.
So they've lost a whopping £1m more than us over three years and have two mid table seasons and one playoff appearance to show for it.
Damning Norwich as a basket case whilst glorifying QPR as some sort of luminary is just completely bizarre when it comes to affordability and sustainability. I'd swap our accounts with theirs in a heartbeat. [Post edited 11 Jul 8:31]
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Yeah but that's misleading as Clive explained. They've probably had £50-!00 million more to spend due to transfer fees accrued and greater income generally. Looks worse then! | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 08:47 - Jul 11 with 1058 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 08:36 - Jul 11 by CroydonCaptJack |
You'd rather have lost more money?
Strange. |
Over the same time period they have earned £282.3m. We have earned £71.3m.
Our losses represent 82% of our turnover, their losses represent 21% of theirs.
Would you rather service a £5k credit card debt with a salary of £71k or £282k?
Yet somehow we're the ones doing it right and they're the 'basket case'. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 08:51 - Jul 11 with 1043 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 08:40 - Jul 11 by nix |
Yeah but that's misleading as Clive explained. They've probably had £50-!00 million more to spend due to transfer fees accrued and greater income generally. Looks worse then! |
No, it doesn't. Because they earned that money in the first place. We're talking about sustainability here and the two clubs essentially end up losing the same amount of cash. Yes they spend more but that's because they earn more.
I agree it proves they've spent the money horrifically. But they are no less sustainable than us. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 09:44 - Jul 11 with 943 views | nix |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 08:51 - Jul 11 by Padulas_Shampoo |
No, it doesn't. Because they earned that money in the first place. We're talking about sustainability here and the two clubs essentially end up losing the same amount of cash. Yes they spend more but that's because they earn more.
I agree it proves they've spent the money horrifically. But they are no less sustainable than us. |
Not if you're using league placements as evidence though.
They didn't reach those placements having spent the same money as us.
Our issue is not our current management it's the past where we spunked our Prem and parachute cash money. We're doing okay now given our current income. They didn't spunk their Prem income so they've always got players to sell. But they should be doing better on the pitch IMO. | | | |
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